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A48286	The only vvay to rest of soule in religion here, in heaven hereafter: shewed plainly and succinctly by pure scripture, in three treatises: demonstrating, I. That the church was left by Christ, as the means to teach us his gospel. 2. Which is she that was left in that office. 3. What it is, she teacheth for gospel. By I.L. Bach of Div. Licensed by the university of Oxford, to preach throughout Engalnd, and late rector of L. in the county of S. now a Catholike.	Lewgar, John, 1602-1665.	1657 (1657)	Wing L1832A; ESTC R218105	64,778	221

to the Church in publishing and dispersing her decrees and to their doctrine that it was by her approved 16.4 4. As they went through the Churches they delivered them the decrees of the Councell for to keep Act. 16.4 which was more then we finde they did any book of Scripture 5. When the good Christians heard what the Councell had decreed they rejoyced for the consolation of being certain now what was true doctrine in that point 15.31 6. And thus were the Churches established in the saith 16.5 8 Proofe Act. 20.20 27 32. 1. The Apostles by word of mouth committed unto the Church all things needfull nay but profitable only for them to know for the full discharge of their office unto salvation of themselves and their flock And so made her the depositary of what Christ had committed to them 2. That which they thus committed by word of mouth to the Church was in simple sense the word of grace nay expressely the whole counsell of God 3. This forme of doctrine thus taught by tradition was left and expressely recommended by the Apostles unto rhe Church for her sufficient rule and guide And now brethren I commend you to the word of Gods grace which is able to establish you c. v. 32. 4. And this at their death or as good as their death when they were never like to see one anothers faces more in this world I know that after my departure c. 5. So at their deaths they left the Church to continue for ever in all the same office and authority for feeding and ruling the flock of Christ wherein they then were or had been at any time afore and namely afore the writing of the New Testament Take heed to your selves and to the flock over the which the H. Ghost hath made you Bishops or as yours prophanely overseers to feed the Church c. CHAP. V. Proving it from the Epistles TO the practice and proceedings of the Apostles in their History accord the rules instructions exhortations and admonitions in their Epistles all setting forth and recommending unto us the Church for our guide and her teaching for our rule in such manner as if there were no such book as Scripture nor to be To name a few of the principal for instance 1 Proofe Rom. 1.1 Gal. 6.6 Eph. 1.13 Heb. 5.12 Iude 3.2 Io. 9. 1. It is their ordinary language to call the Churche's doctrine the word doctrine oracles Gospell c. of God Christ life salvation c. the faith the truth c. in simple sense 2. And not that preached by the Apostles only but by the Pastors among whom it was by accident if any were an Apostle Rom. 10.8 17. Heb. 13.7 Iam. 1.21 3. Nay that which was preached by Pastors of whom the Apostles none for certaine Col. 1.5 3.16 Nor can you say it was so called because it was the Scripture preached or in regard of its consonancy to it For 1. The Old Testament could give neither the matter nor rule for Evangelicall doctrine and very little of the New was written when S. Paul called it so in the first Epistle by him written 1 Th. 2.13 and S. Peter in the first that was written 1 Pet. 1.12 25. 2.2 2. Many Evangelicall doctrines then revealed were not written then to wit those mentioned in S. Iohn's Gospells and Epistles more then are in the other namely the institution of the Sacrament of Priestly absolution Ioh. 20.21 Christ's committing his flock to S. Peter Ioh. 21.15 3. The Epistles themselves expressly require all Traditions to be held unwritten as well as written and not those onely taught by the Apostles but by their Pastors Timothy Silvanus c. among whom it was by accident that S. Paul was one Hold the traditions which you have been taught whether by word or our Epistle 2 Thess 2.15 2. Proof Ro. 1.16 12.6 Eph. 6.16 1 Tim. 3.9 6.20 2 Tim. 1.13 2.2 Tit. 1.9 Iam. 1.21 Iude 23. The Churches teaching or doctrine by her taught is called also in simple sense the power i.e. powerful instrument of God unto salvation of all that believe it the rule or as you call it proportion of faith the sword of the Spirit the mysterie of faith the good thing depositum or treasure of heavenly truth the form of sound words or doctrine committed by the Apostles to the Church the faith once delivered to the Saints the faithful word able to save the souls of all that follow it 3. Proof Rom. 10.14 17. The Apostle expressely averrs he knows no means wherby men may come to faith but the word preached and thereupon concludes absolutely Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God As much as to say the ordinary means of faith is hearing the word preached 4. Proof Rom. 12.6 1 Tim. 1.3 3.9 2 Tim. 1.13 3.14 Tit. 1.7 9. The rule of teaching to the Pastors was the doctrine they had received And it was the rule even to Prophets to If any man prophecy according to the analogie rule or as you render it proportion of faith Rom. 12.6 that is the known doctrine of the Church For that it could not mean the Scripture see the reasons given sup pag. 59. 5. Proof Ro. 16.17 2 Th. 3.6 Heb. 13.7 17. Iud. 3.1 Ioh. 2.24 4.2 6. 2 Ioh. 6 9. The rule of belief and holy practice to the people was the doctrine wherein they had been Catechised called by S. Iohn the unction of the H. Ghost 1 Ioh. 2.20 and generally the doctrine or institutes of the Church Hereby know we the spirit of truth and the spirit of error He that knows God hears us he that is not of God heareth not us 1 Ioh. 4.6 This doctrine of our Catechisme is given unto all Christians supposed catechised by a lawfull Pastor as the Galatians were as a rule of that supream authority and infallible certainty as by it we are to try the spirits of Prophets 1 Thes 5.21 yea even of Apostles or heavenly Angels Gal. 1.8 if possible for them to teach repugnant to it And if a rule whereby to judge of the Apostles preaching of their writing also it being as impossible for them to write as to preach repugnantly to it and their writing being of no greater authority then their preaching Consequently this text Gal. 1.8 which your men use to urge against Traditions gives so great authority to them as it implicitely warnes us on perill of our soul not to beleive or receive any text of H. Scripture it self in any sense repugnant if possible for it to have any as it is not to the doctrine of our Catechisme suppose it given by a lawfull Pastor Nor can you say that this subsists not with what we teach that any particular Pastor yea Pope and all as such may teach false doctrine for we will not say that any lawfull Pastor can doe it which who is we shall see in next Treatise 6 Proofe 1 Cor. 4.1

she may not teach or command any thing as Gospel and the people lawfully may nay and at their peril are to examine by it their Pastors teaching and if not there reject it Any of which allegations if true would indeed quite overthrow our tenet But they are egregious false ones as will appear by our answers to the best proofs for them 1. Object Deut. 4.2 5.32 Thou shalt not adde to this word c. As much as to say not teach do or believe any thing in Religion but what is written Solution No such thing For 1. He spake not of the written Law but the words commanded by him 2. Grant he meant the written Law he neither saith nor meant as you gloss him Because then 1. None could have believed or taught the creation of the Angels fall and punishment of the Devils the spiritual taint of humane nature by Adams sin the immortality of the soul resurrection of the body eternal punishments of the wicked rewards of the just 2. Then Iosuah had transgressed this Precept when he added to the Law his Book Ios 24.26 Ezra or whoever else it was that added to it the Book of Iob and the rest of the Old Testament much more they that to things expressely ordained by it added other namely David Psalms and Musick Solomon a Temple Hezekiah 14 days to the Passover 2 Chr. 30.22 he that first appointed the Law to be read to the people every Sabboth day and permitted them to have it in their own hands to read c. 3. Then when the High Priest had given sentence in any cause no man might have believed or done but what was in that sentence for of it it is said Thou shalt not decline from it c. Deut. 17.11 4. Then Iosuah declined from the ways of David when he read the Law in the Temple 2 Chro. 34. 30. which David never did Those phrases then thou shalt not add c. meant no more but this that follows presently as it were to explicate them thou shalt observe to do all c. 2. Object Esa 8.20 To the Law and to the testimony If they speak not according to this word c. Plainly authorizing and directing people to examine their Pastors doctrine by the Scripture and if not there reject it Solution As wide as the former For 1. He names not the Scripture nor meant it necessarily much less solely 2. Grant he meant it yet 1. not as in the people's hand but as read and interpreted to them by their Pastors Exod. 24.12 2 Chr. 17.9 Neh. 8.7 2. Nor therefore by they did he mean their Pastors but Sorcerers Idolaters or such like impious wretches spoken of in the words next afore 3. Nor by not according to it did he mean beside or beyond it but evidently repugnant to it as that counsel Seek unto wizards was of which he there particularly spoke 3. Object Eze 44.24 They shall judge it according to my judgement meaning according to Moses Law Solution 1. Perhaps not 2. Grant he meant it he meant it as guide-rule onely not a bar-rule according to it not according to it alone 4. Object S. Mat. 15.9 Teaching for doctrines the commandments of men that is unwritten traditions Solution No such matter but commandments repugnant to God's Law whether written or unwriten Such as that in which he there instanced God said c. But you say c. v. 4 5. 5. Object S. Mat. 15.14 16 6 12. Take heed of the doctrine of the Pharisees which yet sate then in Moses Chair they are blinde guides and if the blinde lead the blinde c. Plainly intimating that people at their own peril are to use their eyes in judging of the truth of what is taught them be the Teacher never so lawfully authorized seeing they may be blinde guides Solution The Scribes and Pharisees speaking generally per se sate in Moses Chair that is taught what they had authority for from the Synagogue And in consideration thereof our Saviours rule was All things therefore whatsover c. Mat. 23.2 Sometimes they sate in their own Chair that is taught their private opinions or traditions of their Sect. Whence sometimes the people might have reason to doubt of their teaching which when they had they were at their own peril to examine and judge of it but not by the Scripture but the doctrine of Moses Chair or if by the Scripture not but as interpreted by that chair 6. Object Acts 17.11 The Bereans are commended for searching in Scripture even Pauls doctrine Much more may people their Pastors Solution Neither t 'one nor t'other For 1. Perhaps not commended for searching but onely for receiving the word with all greediness that is listning to it very greedily whereas the Thessalonians stopt theirs at it Nay perhaps not for that neither but onely noted for a more noble people without particularizing wherein For those words in that implying a reason given are onely of your Translators inserting and confessed for such by a smaller Character in most of your editions the text rightly rendred being a meer relation of what passed consequenter These were more noble receiving the word c. and searching 2. Grant commended for it it will not therefore follow that so may people examine their Pastors doctrine Because 1. They were then no Christians as I think and so consequently he none of their Pastor And my reason is 1. Because they searched whether Christ ought to have suffered c. in order to judging whether Iesus were the Christ v. 3. which no Christian could doubt of 2. Because upon and after the search it is said therefore many of them believed So some not then till then none And consequently that might be commendable in them which would have been a mortal sin in them if Christians 2. Because granting they were Christians 1. They did not search for any doctrine of his delivering Christian faith viz. Christ is come Iesus is the Christ is risen c. which was not possible to be found in the Scripture they searched but onely for a proof he brought toward it viz. Christ ought to have suffered c. risen again which he affirmed to be in Scripture and desired his hearers not to believe it or him unless it were v. 3. 26.22 2. Nor did they search with doubt or intent to judge of the truth of his doctrine but onely to satisfie their curiosity or to confirm and comfort their yet tender faith by reading in their own Bible with their own eyes what they little dreamt to be in it having been always taught out of it to the contrary and having read perhaps the places quoted a hundred times over and never observed any such thing in them 7. Object 1 Thess 5.27 Prove all things If all the doctrine of our Pastors Solution I might aswel infer all things are lawful for me 1 Cor. 10.23 If all lying and theft we are therfore to understand him