Selected quad for the lemma: tradition_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
tradition_n	augustin_n	impugn_v	recant_v	24	3	15.2306	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A12482	An answer to Thomas Bels late challeng named by him The dovvnfal of popery wherin al his arguments are answered, his manifold vntruths, slaunders, ignorance, contradictions, and corruption of Scripture, & Fathers discouered and disproued: with one table of the articles and chapter, and an other of the more markable things conteyned in this booke. VVhat controuersies be here handled is declared in the next page. By S.R.	Smith, Richard, 1566-1655.	1605 (1605)	STC 22809; ESTC S110779	275,199	548

be_v a_o mere_a humane_a and_o mistake_a tradition_n he_o say_v come_v it_o from_o our_o lord_n or_o the_o gospel_n authority_n come_v it_o from_o the_o apostle_n precept_n or_o epistle_n for_o god_n witness_v that_o the_o thing_n be_v to_o be_v do_v which_o be_v write_v and_o propose_v to_o jesus_n name_v say_v let_v not_o the_o book_n of_o this_o law_n depart_v from_o thy_o mouth_n but_o thou_o shall_v meditate_v therein_o day_n and_o night_n that_o thou_o may_v observe_v to_o do_v all_o thing_n that_o be_v write_v in_o it_o if_o therefore_o it_o be_v command_v in_o the_o gospel_n or_o contain_v in_o epistle_n of_o apostle_n or_o act_n that_o who_o come_v from_o any_o heresy_n be_v not_o baptize_v but_o hand_n impose_v upon_o they_o for_o penance_n let_v this_o divine_a and_o holy_a tradition_n be_v keep_v 6._o these_o word_n at_o the_o first_o view_n seem_v to_o make_v for_o bel_n but_o if_o the_o cause_n and_o circumstance_n of_o s._n cyprian_n writing_n be_v consider_v cyprian_n s._n cyprian_n they_o make_v rather_o against_o he_o s._n cyprian_n never_o reject_v all_o tradition_n yea_o by_z it_o l._n 2._o epist_n 3._o he_o prove_v water_n to_o be_v mingle_v with_o wine_n in_o the_o sacrifice_n and_o in_o the_o epistle_n cite_v by_o bel_n bid_v we_o recurre_v to_o apostolical_a tradition_n but_o only_o the_o foresay_a tradition_n because_o he_o think_v as_o he_o say_v epist_n ad_fw-la jubaian_a that_o it_o be_v never_o before_o command_v or_o write_v but_o as_o he_o write_v epist_n ad_fw-la quint_n mistake_v for_o a_o other_o tradition_n of_o not_o rebaptise_v such_o as_o fall_v into_o heresy_n wherefore_o bell_n pag._n 118_o most_o false_o affirm_v 3._o 79_o untruth_n s._n cyprian_n epist_n ad_fw-la jubaian_a ad_fw-la pompeium_n ad_fw-la quintinum_fw-la euseb_n lib._n 7._o c._n 3._o that_o he_o sharp_o reprove_v p._n steeven_n for_o lean_v to_o tradition_n for_o he_o reprove_v he_o only_o for_o lean_v to_o a_o mistake_a as_o he_o suppose_a tradition_n and_o 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●aeres_fw-la 7._o but_o many_o thing_n i_o observe_v in_o s._n cyprian_n which_o make_v against_o bel._n 1_o he_o admit_v divers_a tradition_n bel_n reject_v al._n 2._o he_o impugn_v one_o only_a tradition_n bel_n impugn_v al._n 3_o he_o err_v in_o impugn_v one_o and_o much_o more_o bell_n in_o impugn_v al._n 4._o he_o recant_v his_o error_n before_o his_o death_n as_o s._n luciferian_n s._n augustin_n l._n 6._o the_o bapt_a c._n 2._o s._n hieron_n dial_n contr_n luciferian_n austin_n thinck_v and_o of_o his_o fellow_n bishop_n s._n hierom_n testify_v bel_n persi_v obstinate_o 5._o he_o err_v in_o a_o new_a question_n and_o not_o determine_v in_o a_o full_a council_n say_v s._n austin_n bel_n err_v in_o ancient_a matter_n decide_v 3._o s._n august_n l._n de_fw-fr vinc_fw-la baptism_n c._n 13._o &_o lib._n 5._o the_o bapt_a c._n 17._o s._n cyprian_n epist_n ad_fw-la jubaian_a s._n hieron_n contr_n lucifer_n august_n sup_v s._n cyprian_n epistol_n ad_fw-la pompey_n euseb_n lib._n 7._o c._n 3._o vincen._n count_v haeres_fw-la s._n cyprian_n l._n 1._o epist_n 3._o by_o many_o general_a counsel_n 6._o he_o although_o he_o think_v the_o pope_n do_v err_v yet_o separate_v not_o himself_o as_o bel_n do_v from_o his_o communion_n as_o himself_o and_o s._n hierom_n testify_v 7._o he_o condemn_v none_o that_o follow_v the_o pope_n opinion_n against_o he_o as_o bel_n do_v 8._o he_o think_v the_o pope_n to_o err_v in_o a_o commandment_n only_o of_o a_o thing_n to_o be_v do_v bel_n condemn_v he_o of_o error_n in_o his_o judicial_a sentence_n of_o faith_n where_o as_o s._n cyprian_n profess_v that_o false_a faith_n can_v have_v no_o access_n to_o s._n peter_n chair_n 9_o he_o disobey_v for_o a_o time_n the_o pope_n commandment_n concern_v a_o new_a and_o difficult_a question_n bel_n disobey_v obstinate_o his_o definative_a sentence_n 8._o hereby_o we_o see_v how_o little_a s._n cyprian_n make_v austin_n see_v s._n austin_n lib._n 2._o contr_n crescon_n c._n 31._o 32._o to_o 7._o s._n austin_n for_o bel_n and_o though_o he_o have_v make_v more_o for_o he_o let_v he_o know_v from_o s._n austin_n lib._n the_o unic_n bapt_v c._n 13._o and_o lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr bapt_a count_n donatist_n c._n 18._o and_o epist_n 18._o that_o this_o error_n be_v in_o s._n cyprian_n a_o humane_a and_o venial_a error_n and_o like_o a_o blemish_n in_o a_o most_o white_a breast_n because_o it_o be_v not_o then_o perfect_o defyne_v by_o the_o church_n but_o in_o his_o follower_n say_v he_o lib._n 1._o cit_fw-la c._n 19_o it_o be_v smoke_n of_o hellish_a filthiness_n and_o as_o vincent_n lyrin_fw-mi vincent_n lyrin_fw-mi lyrin_n write_v the_o author_n be_v catholicque_n his_o follower_n be_v judge_v heretic_n he_o absolve_v they_o condemn_v he_o a_o child_n of_o heaven_n they_o of_o hell_n and_o let_v the_o reader_n gather_v by_o this_o example_n the_o judgement_n example_n of_o the_o force_n of_o tradition_n and_o the_o pope_n judgement_n authority_n of_o tradition_n and_o pope_n for_o 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speak_v of_o our_o belief_n in_o christ_n but_o say_v belgiosa_n he_o have_v make_v a_o foolish_a argument_n and_o conclude_v nothing_o at_o all_o if_o any_o necessary_a truth_n have_v not_o be_v full_o contain_v in_o scripture_n as_o though_o s_n athanasius_n have_v in_o these_o word_n argue_v against_o gentile_n in_o which_o he_o only_o give_v a_o cause_n why_o he_o write_v that_o treatise_n because_o say_v he_o though_o scripture_n suffice_v to_o show_v the_o truth_n and_o divers_a have_v write_v of_o the_o same_o matter_n which_o argue_v that_o he_o speak_v of_o some_o determinate_a truth_n yet_o because_o their_o writing_n be_v not_o at_o hand_n i_o think_v good_a to_o write_v but_o suppose_v he_o have_v argue_v what_o folly_n be_v in_o this_o argument_n all_o contain_v in_o scripture_n be_v truth_n christ_n godhead_n be_v there_o

parag_n 13._o and_o ar●_n 7._o c._n 9_o parag_n 19_o untruth_n 92_o make_v oftentimes_o of_o cobbler_n tinker_n and_o tailor_n who_o may_v thank_v the_o lord_n as_o one_o of_o they_o do_v that_o they_o know_v nothing_o of_o the_o romish_a tongue_n 4._o that_o in_o the_o church_n we_o read_v unto_o the_o common_a people_n latin_a sermon_n in_o deed_n we_o read_v such_o in_o our_o service_n but_o read_v they_o to_o the_o common_a people_n no_o more_o than_o we_o read_v the_o mass_n to_o they_o but_o read_v both_o in_o honour_n and_o service_n to_o god_n who_o understand_v as_o well_o latin_n as_o english_a and_o thus_o much_o touch_v scripture_n now_o let_v we_o come_v to_o tradition_n chap._n ix_o of_o apostolical_a tradition_n whether_o there_o be_v any_o or_o none_o of_o the_o tradition_n which_o the_o church_n mantein_v some_o be_v institute_v by_o christ_n some_o by_o his_o apostle_n by_o the_o inspiration_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o other_o by_o the_o church_n itself_o the_o 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to_o christian_n s._n shine_v leave_v unwritten_a yea_o think_v it_o not_o expedient_a to_o write_v they_o bel_n answer_v 117._o bel_n p._n 117._o that_o the_o apostle_n teach_v no_o needful_a doctrine_n which_o they_o do_v not_o after_o commit_v to_o writing_n this_o answer_n insinuate_v that_o the_o apostle_n teach_v some_o needle_n matter_n contrary_a to_o s._n paul_n 2._o timoth._n 2_o tit._n 3._o and_o that_o which_o s._n paul_n command_v the_o thessalonicenses_n to_o hold_v &_o s._n john_n say_v he_o have_v to_o write_v be_v needle_n thing_n which_o be_v but_o to_o blaspheme_v the_o apostle_n three_o in_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n there_o be_v tradition_n as_o be_v evident_a and_o testify_v gen._n 18._o v._n 19_o likewise_o in_o time_n of_o the_o 29._o conference_n at_o hampton_n court_n p._n 68_o valer._n max._n lib._n 3._o c._n 319._o de_fw-la scauro_fw-la &_o vario_fw-la severo_fw-la s._n dionis_fw-la l._n 1._o eccles_n hire_n c._n 1._o s._n ignat._v ep_v ad_fw-la heron._n 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