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A13964	The trial of trueth or a treatise vvherein is declared vvho should be iudge betvvene the Reformed Churches, and the Romish in which is shewed, that neither Pope, nor Councels, nor Fathers, nor traditions, nor succession, nor consent, nor antiquitie of custome: but the onely written worde of God, ought to determine the controuersies of religio[n]: wherin also is declared which is the true religion, and Catholick church. Written for the pleasure of the Popes, Cardinalles, prelates, abbots, monkes: and speciallie the Iesuites, which of late were driuen out of Transyluania, by the states there. Published in Latine by a certaine Hungarian, a fauourer of the trueth: and translated into English by Richard Smith.; Oratio de constituendo iudice controversiorum religionis. English.	Smith, Richard, tr.	1591 (1591)	STC 24274; ESTC S100745	49,352	68

THE TRIAL OF TRVETH OR A TREATISE WHEREIN is declared vvho should be Iudge betvvene the Reformed Churches and the Romish IN WHICH IS SHEWED THAT NEIther Pope nor Councels nor Fathers nor Traditions nor Succession nor consent nor antiquitie of Custome But the onely written worde of God ought to determine the controuersies of religiō wherin also is declared which is the true Religion and Catholick Church WRITTEN FOR THE PLEASVRE OF THE Popes Cardinalles Prelates Abbots Monkes and speciallie the Iesuites which of late were driuen out of Transyluania by the States there Published in Latine by a certaine Hungarian a fauourer of the trueth● and translated into English by RICHARD SMITH Imprinted at London for Robert Dexter are to be sold in Pauls Churchyard at the signe of the Brasen Serpent 1591. VIRO OPTIMO ACINTEGERRIMO GVILIELMO PERIAM ARMIGERO TRIBVNALIS SIVE BANCI COMMVNIS AC COMITIORVMIVDICIALIVM VVL GO ASSISARVM IVSTICIARIO REGIO RICHARDVS SMITHVS GRATI ANIMI TESTIFICANDI CAVSA HANCSVAM QVALEMCVMQVE OPELLAM DICAT CONSECRATQVE A TREATISE CONCERNING THE APPOINTING OF A IVDGE OF THE CONTROVERSIES both of the Popish and Reformed Religion HOw not onlie odious and disdainful but also dangerous a matter it is in thes● daies to meddle with the controuersies of religion Gentle Reader both the crueltie of many mightie ones and also the broiles stirres betwéene man and man doe too too much declare For such is the blindenes of men and so great is their rashnes to runne and rush on to their own destructiō that as there was neuer any nation so rude but would haue taken it in euill part to be instructed in religion So at this day a man shall finde many which haue so hardened themselues in that religion wherein they were borne which their forefathers haue obserued which they see to make for their dignities and aduauncement and which they perceiue to be mainteyned by the greater part of men that they wil not endure once to heare the iudgement and doctrine of the contrarie side but contrarie to all law both of God and man doe condemne shunne and abhore it being neither heard nor vnderstoode by them Moreouer certaine Epicures and graceles men also do not a little trouble the godlie which growe to such outrage that they thinke they deserue great commendation if they can conceale and hide their owne iudgement in the matter of saluation and scoffe and frumpe at all religion of other men Hereunto is added the presumption of the Popes Cardinals Bishops and other Prelates who although they sée that many corruptions both of doctrine and also of ceremonies and discipline are crept in yet they accounte it an hainous offence if any man not content with their generall and confused faith dares to examine the doctrine of men by the rule of the Prophets and Apostles writinges and by searching the Scriptures to séeke out the way of saluation in them Which things although they thus stande yet ought all the godlie to be strengthened in minde and encouraged against so many offences to yeelde a reason of their beléefe to the ende that both the wicked maie be made vnexcusable before Gods iudgement seate and that those which not so much vpon froward malice as by reason of their first trayning vp or following of their forfathers or finally through loue of preferments haue condemned sincere doctrine that such I say may not sticke to let themselues be ouercome with the mightie worde of God For Ezechias a most religious prince is commended because neither by the example of his father Achas professing a contrarie religion neyther by that bringing vp which he had from his cradle nor by the highnes of his Royall state nor finallie by the president of other kings and multitude of men following an other contrarie religion hee could be withdrawen and discouraged from learning himselfe the sincere religion out of the wel-springs of Israel that is to say out of the word of God conteined in the writings of the Prophets or from enioyning his Subiects to obserue and practise the same when he had learned it himselfe and caused it to be purged from all corruptions For he had learned the commaundement of the Lord wherein he geueth in charge that all the faithfull be bound not to walke in the commandementes of their fathers nor to doe their iudgements but to walke in the precepts of the Lord only and to kéepe and do his iudgements Neither ought the credite either of traditions or of Councels or Fathers or myracles or succession no nor of an Angell from heauen to withdrawe any man from this searching and perusing of the word of God for it was no lesse wiselie then rightly said More credite is to be geuen to one skilful in the Scriptures and alleadging the catholique authoritie of the Canonicall Scripture then either to the exposition of the Pope or to a generall Councel By all this therefore it is manifest how not onelie harde but also dangerous a thing it is to deal in the matter of religion Which charge if I had taken vpon me being not forced with any necessitie to speake but moued thereunto eyther with vaine-glorie or foolish rashnes doubtlesse I could not auoide iust reproofe But now sith I haue stepped foorth to speake not voluntarilie but by constraint addressed thereunto not with ambition but with loue of the trueth not vnaduisedly but vpon good deliberation not with slaunders and cauilles but with authoritie of the word of God Truely I nothing feare that this my honest meaning to mainteine the trueth should be imputed to me as a faulte Onely this I request you gentle Readers whosoeuer are desirous of eternall life that you bring not hether any preiudice or forestalled opinion that you condemne not a cause vnheard contrarie to all lawe both of God and man and that you leane not to any authoritie or excellencie of men but compare matter with matter reason with reason argument with argument by the rule of the worde of God neither doe you consider the person that speaketh but the matter that is spoken with a godly desire to learne out the truth And then I will not sticke to abide the curteous censures of the good that if it be prooued that these thinges are agréeable to the trueth of God yee may yéeld vnto the Lord if not ye may refusé them as things contrarie to the heauenlie oracles or testimonies of the word But that I may not séeme to roue from the matter I wil prescribe certaine bounds which neither I in speaking nor you in reading may ouer-passe But before this be done I will first set downe the whole state of the matter Hearken ye kings and Princes and all ye inhabitants of the world There is a great controuersie in hand For almightie God the most gracious father of all the faithfull hath promised to all men that beleeue as to his children beloued in his onely begotten sonne he hath promised to them I say

Pope thirtie thousand men of warre that might doe seruice in the field without any hinderance to their church-seruice But amongst other orders the Franciscans and Domicanes are taken to excell whereof the former beside other fables conteyned in the booke of conformities are not ashamed to call vpon their Captaine with this verse O Frances Iesus typicall or second Christ the guide Of Minorites who rulest them that they g●e not aside Graunt vs in heauen euermore with thee still to abide And the later doe not sticke not onely to compare their Dominick with our sauiour Christ but also to prefer him before him in many points There be published the legends of the Saints and sundrie other bookes of the lying counterfette miracles of Stanislaus Adelbert and other men Which bookes because the popes haue authorized and exhibited them to all Christendome to be imbraced with as great reuerence as the Scriptures hereby they also iudge them to be giltie of impietie The second cause for which the Gospellers denie that they will acknowledge the popes for their Iudges they alledge to be the sinne of tirannie vsurped ouer the Church For first he séeketh to be intituled the head husband and vniuersall Bishop of the Church which it is most certain agréeth to none but Christ Secondly in that they haue chalenged vnto themselues dominion ouer the whole world and all ciuil magistrates for as for the donation of Constantine wherby they cōfirm their soueraign authoritie besides that Antoninus bishop of Florēce N. Cusanus L. Valla Volateranus AEneas Siluius and other writers moe which in other pointes were great proctors for the papacie were not afraid some late hundred yeares since to disproue it the Gospellers auouch that they can also conuince it of forgerie by these reasons For sith no approued writer maketh mention of this donation sith Eusebius and others doe witnes that Constantine did deuide the thrée coastes of the world to his thrée sonnes sith the instruments or deeds of grant set forth by Volateranus and in the decretals doe far differ and their stile is much vnlike sith it is ridiculous that Peter Paul should appeare to Constantine in a dreame and that he should worship thē for gods sith Cōstantine neuer had the leprosie neither was he baptized at Rome by Siluester but at Hicomedia by ●usebius sith it is wicked to say that the hand of god was seen of Constantine sith he could not geue greater iurisdiction to the pope then he had himselfe neither could geue him autoritie ouer the patriarck of Constantinople there being then no such citie and finally sith those giftes which in that euidence are saide to be geuen to the pope by Constantine are the badges of Antichrist By al these seueral and those most forcible demonstrations it is cōcluded that y e same donation was not granted by Constantine but forged by the popes Now in those words which Christ spake to Peter other ministers of the word that they should féed his shéep he appointeth to them not a ciuil iurisdiction but a church-ministerie for in another place he nippeth and beateth back the pride ambition of the apostles desiring superiority when he saith The kings of the natious beare rule but it shal not be so with you Yea the Canons also haue expresly forbidden the Bishop of Rome to be called The chief Bishop or the vniuersall head of the church Wherfore they say y t they are conquered with their own weapons sith they claime to thē selues this dominion by diuers those also contrarie titles The third cause why the Gospellers refuse to stand to the iudgemēts of the popes they alledge to be this that they haue corrupted Religion and haue most grosselie erred not onelie in mane●s but also in doctrine For there are decrées extant concerning the popes that they are not men but Gods that they may not bée iudged by any mortall man y t they may dispense against the Apostle chaunge the nature of things make some what of nothing make righteousnes of vnrighteousnesse But in the meane space how true these things are the matter it selfe doth shew For the Lord himselfe witnesseth y t there is but one forme of Religiō namelie that which is recorded in the writings of the Prophets and Apostles whereunto nothing may be added or taken away no not by an Angell But the pope teacheth that y e order of the church consisteth in the traditions of our forefathers of the which sort are Agnus Deis christening of belles prayers of Saints single life of priests as they call them the taking away of the cup in the Lordes Supper the vsing of a straunge toung the Masse pardons and other such stuffe the which although they affirme to ha●e bene conuayed ouer to them from the Apostles by tradition yet that most of them were inuented by them selues the recordes of auncient stories doe plainlie proue For pope Innocent forbad the cup in the Lordes Supper by the decrée of the Coūsell of Laterane and instituted the Easter-Communion But Eugenius the fourth decréed the contrarie Innocentius the third and Honorius the third ordained that the Sacramentall bread should be curiouslie kept in the church for sundrie vses But pope Clement would not suffer it to be reserued to the next day Vitellianus the second and Agatho the first appointed the Masse to be said in Latin Nicolaus the first suffered the Slauonians and Polonians to haue Masse said in their own tongues Alexander the second decréed that Masse said by a priest that kept a cōcubine should not be heard But Lucius the third allowed it Siricius Pelagius the second and diuers others condemned the mariage of priests But Pius the second hath left in writing to this effect that it seemed there was great reason to debarre the priests from mariage but there was greater reason for the restoring of it againe Leo the first Gregorie the second third many others allowed the worshipping of Images But Iohn the 22. did mortallie hate Images Pictures Boniface the 4. graunted the Monckes authoritie to preach baptise and absolue Gregory tooke it from them Iohn the 24. held for sound articles of faith that the Apostles neuer vowed pouertie and single life Pius the second said that Friers were the deuils bondslaues in this double verse The deuill of hell himselfe dare not that thing to enterprise Which shameles Moncke beldame old with craft fraught will deuise Pelagius y e first ordained that clerkes should bestow euerie day seuē houres in Canonicall prayers Gregorie y e first commaunded that they should giue themselues not to chaūtings but to preaching Calixtus decréed y t it was not lawfull to dissent from the church of Rome Fabianus affirmed the contrarie Bonifacius the 8. commaunded that the yeare of Iubilie should be kept the hundreth yeare Clemens the 6. brought it to the fiftith Boniface the ninth to

bread and wine in the Sacrament doth so remaine and not ceasse as there remaineth in Christ the Lord the nature of man ioyned to the diuine nature Augustine saith that it is rashnesse without plaine and manifest testimonies of the Scriptures to determine on either side matters of Rellgion that are doubtfull Calixtus deliuered the Sacrament to the whole church kept backe notorious wicked persons from it and condemned those which being present did not communicate Cyprian saith that the Christian people were not to be denyed the bloud of their Lord for the confessing of whom they were commaunded to shed their owne bloud Apollo amongest other herestes obrayded Montanus with this that he was the first that had prescribed the people lawes of fasting Paphnutius denied that y e Ministers of the church were to be forbidden mariage And auouched that the mutuall performance of mariage dueties betwéene man and wife was chastitie Cyprian sayd that onely Christ was to bee heard of whom it was said heare him and that it was not to be reregarded what others before vs haue either saide or doone but what Christ who was before all hath commaunded Augustine stoutly maintaineth that the Church ought not to prefer her selfe before Christ because he alwaies iudgeth truely but the Iudges of the Church as being men are oftentimes mistaken Ambrose saide that holy things néeded not golde neither were those things acceptable by meanes of gold which wree not bought with golde Acatius said that our God did neither eat nor drink and that therfore he néeded not cuppes or bowles Spiridion saide that he did therefore fréelye eate fleshe on that day wherin others did abstaine because he was a Christian Augustine saide that it was not lawfull for Monkes to liue at other mens cost although they were dayly occupied in meditations praiers and studies Epiphanius said that it was a horrible abhomination to sée the Image either of Christ or any other painted in the Churches of Christians These and other such bounds of the auncient Fathers sith the Sée of Rome her selfe hath ouer●strided by what right she maye enioyne others to keepe that which she her selfe neglecteth to doo all men may easily iudge Sith therfore neither the Popes neither the councels nor the Fathers can end this dissention is there any at last I pray you vnto whose iudgement we must stand Are they Traditions that must strike the stroke Why by the name of Traditions they must either vnderstand ceremonies or doctrines and as for ceremonies although they be auntient yet if they be either hurtfull or néedlesse and superfluous or repugnant to the woord of God or haue been abrogated at a certain time they are not to be suffered For the Lord giueth expresse commaundement that men woorship him not with doctrines deuised by mens braines and as for the traditions that are doctrinall they must either containe in them the written word of God it selfe Créedes and expositions gathered by necessary collection out of the foundations of the scriptures against Heretickes or else those things which either directly or indirectly are either put to or taken from the word of God If you meane the former who will not receyue such traditions If the later who may not without any breach of Godlines reiect them And how much Traditions doe auaile to appease and ceasse the contentions of the Church olde Stories doe plainly shew For when as in the most auncient times there arose a sturre in the Church concerning the feast of Easter with so great a doo that the whole world was shaken therewith both sides had recourse to the traditions of the Apostles which are not expressed in any certain Booke But when each side alleadged that they kepte the feaste of Easter on that time which was appointed by tradition of the Apostles the matter grew to this passe in the end that there was a flat fréedome for the Church in all such manner of matters vntill tiranny preuailed Loe what force traditions haue to determine the controuersies of Religion Will miracles then make manifest which is the better cause or the Catholick church Why the vse of miracles is now ceased For there is not now any new Eospell or new doctrine broached but that which Christ and the Apostles haue already confirmed with miracles and wonders Againe we doe not reade that all those that restored and as it were reformed Religion were famous for their myracles In the which number Iohn Baptist Asaph Ethan Iedithun Heman Core and other Prophets are to be reckonned Moreouer except the gift of miracles be lefte to the wise disposition of God they cannot confirme any doctrine For it is manifest that the miracles of Christ which otherwise were full of power did either nothing at all or very litle further the obstinate Iewes to faith and Godly nesse Finally how could miracles be necessarie signes of true Religion of themselues when as it is manifest that Antichrist and false Prophets shall excell with many miracles wherefore those miracle-mongers ought themselues to be taken for miracles and wounders who when the date and vse of miracles is past doe yet require miracles although the true doctrine is not euen at this day altogether destitude of great miracles What then can the perpetuall and continuall succession of the Bishops of Rome serue to discerne betwéene true and false Religion Surely no man will deny that there is one succession of true doctrine and another of persons wherefore if the succession of Persons be ioyned with the succession of the Prophets and Apostles doctrine it is manifest doublesse that the weight thereof is not small For in this sense the Fathers did alleage succession against the Hereticks For he that professeth the same doctrine saith Nezianzen is partaker of the same chaire also but hee that holdeth a contrarie doctrine ought not to bee counted a Successour and truely this later hath the name in déede but that former hath the trueth of succession Except perhaps a man call it succession in that sence that we say sicknesse succéedeth health light darknesse a storme fayre weather madnesse reason dregges wine and in a word Nero Augustus or Cambyses Cyrus Sith therfore the succession of the Prophets and Apostles doctrine was broken off long agoe in the popish Church surely the ordinarie continuance of Pope after Pope is of no force to shew which is the true religion But it may be they will demaund of the Gospellers the time and person wherein the succession of doctrine was altered Unto this the Gospellers answere that the Popes of Rome are to be distinguished into thrée especiall rankes or companies For they deny not that from Linus to Milchiades there were one and thirtie true Pastours of them in number who laboured in the Lords haruest euen vnto martirdome and therefore may well be called Starres in the right hand of

the kingdome of heauen This promise of a heauenlie inheritance hath hee enrolled in the publique records of the olde and new testament and committed it to his heires being sealed with the seale of the Sacraments Now he hath annexed to these letters of his will certain conditions as a father to the performance whereof his heires should be bound Now the children falling at variance are deuided to omit the rest into two sides extremelie disagréeing among themselues The one acknowledgeth the Pope for their head and as it were the Executor of the will maker God the other acknowledgeth it not They striue for the possession of the kingdome of heauen and for the right of the true church which each side chalengeth as their due The Plaintife in this case is the Bishoppe of Rome with all those which take parte with the See of Rome The Defendantes are those which receiue not the Bishop of Rome but professe themselues Gospellers and men of the reformed religion Both of them bring their allegations their writings sealed with the kings seale and also their witnesses but both sides kéepe great stirre for the assigning of a Iudge For both desire that he should be appointed Iudge whom they hope would be more fauourable to their cause The Romish See would stande to the iudgement of the Popes traditions councels fathers and miracles and saith that yet neuerthelesse shee doeth not shutte out the worde of God The Gospellers on the other side refuse these Iudges for they alledge that the Pope cannot haue the place both of a partie and a Iudge too especiallie sith hee is charged with so many crimes Traditions they reiect as suspected Iudges and not of sufficient credite And as for Councels Fathers Myracles and succession of persons they say that they admitte them not as Iudges but as sworne witnesses wherein notwithstanding they protest that they wil so far foorth only receiue the authoritie of these witnesses as their euidence shall agrée with the publique déede The Sée of Rome accuseth the Gospellers for let mée with good leaue of both sides vse these termes that are now made common that they haue reuolted frō the true church inuented a new doctrine and newe ceremonies and haue but a fewe yeares since picked this quarrell with her and that therefore the kingdome and claime of heauen doeth belong not to them but to her by the lawe of God The Gospellers replie that they haue departed not from the true Church but from the Sinagogue of the malignant and that they haue not coyned a newe doctrine or newe ceremonies but that they holde that Religion by the which the faithfull euer since the beginning of the worlde haue beene saued That they were in déede of later yeares oppressed by their tyrannie as Abell was by Cain Isaak by Ismaell and Iacob by Esau so that they were compelled to hide themselues but that now they haue like the Moone recouered their light and that they will by lawe recouer their birth-right In this Court of sonnes going to lawe one with another there is great concourse and throng of people a great hurlie burlie and stirre ariseth they growe from wordes to blowes to murthers to burnings to warres to bloudshed and in a word to all kinde of torments Sometimes this side séemeth to haue the better hand sometimes that and the more that the Gospellers are suppressed tormented and burned the more doe they boast that they growe encrease preuaile and triumph In the meane season they protest that the matter ought to be tried not by violence but by course of lawe They appeale to God himselfe besides whō they say that they admitte none for chiefe and iudge That the Will maker himselfe may determine this controuersie by his holy word And that this may be the better done they appeale to a Generall Councell wherein it may be lawfull fréelie to reade and scanne the déede of the will and therehence to finde out the minde of the Will maker The See of Rome on the other side pleadeth that she hath not a fewe times assembled Generall Councels wherin the writings haue béene examined and found to haue geuen iudgement on her side for the title of the true Church The Gospellers denie that those Councels were generall and frée because the Papists would not permitte them fréely to geue an account of their faith neither would heare their defence but contrarie to all law either of God or man were themselues both parties and Iudges and con 〈…〉 their brethrens cause before they heard it or vnderstood it and therfore they protest that they haue not béene cast in their suite but will so long be heires of the possession bequeathed vnto them while they perfourme the couenants conteined in the publicke déede of the will according to the appointment of the will-maker And in the meane space they say that they are readie to waite for the righteous Iudge euen the Lorde Christ who shall come to iudge both the quicke the dead and to ende these long contentions in such sort that he will render to those y e shal ouercome the reward of eternall life but to those y e shalbe ouercome euerlasting condemnation Thus far onely haue both sides procéeded in iudgement Now then the question is to which party the inheritance of euerlasting life and the name of the true church is to be adiudged Surely the iudgement héer of peremptorily belongeth onely vnto Christ which he wil doo in that last iudgement court wherunto a thousand fiue hundred foure score and eleuen yéeres since he hath summoned all the worlde and which doubtlesse shalbe held before it be long But take héede O ye Kings Princes and inhabitants of the whole earth that in the mean time ye take parte with the better cause least if you be careles to decide this controuersie Christ héereafter doo mightilye iudge you in the last iudgement And that this may be doon by due form of law goe to I pray you shew your selues indifferent Iudges and condemne not a cause being not heard but if you haue heard the cause of the See of Rome with the right eare as was méet doo you likewise heare the doctrine of the Gospellers with the lest least ye be found farre vnlike y e great Alexander who heard y t speech of the accuser with the right eare but kept the left eare stopped for the defence of the accused First therefore I will rehearce the iudgement of both parties out of the writings of them both worde for worde neither trust me will I adde or diminish any thing which is not to be found in the same forme of words in the bookes of both sides Next I will shewe the reasons wherefore the Gospellers doo refuse to admitte for Iudges the popes themselues the Councels fathers traditions other such like witnesses but would haue all the controuersies of the Church to be discussed by the written woord of God And then if you