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clem_n stro_n l._n â—_o clement_n of_o alexandria_n 〈◊〉_d alexandria_n origtho_n 5_o in_o 〈◊〉_d origen_n 1._o origen_n innoc._n 1_o in_o epist_n 1._o innocentius_n the_o first_o deliver_v the_o same_o s._n basil_n shall_v answer_v for_o all_o the_o rest_n 27._o rest_n basil_n de_fw-fr 〈…〉_o 27._o the_o apostle_n and_o the_o father_n who_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o church_n do_v prescribe_v certain_a rule_n and_o institution_n do_v preserve_v the_o dignity_n of_o the_o mystery_n by_o keep_v they_o hide_v and_o in_o silence_n etc._n etc._n 5._o as_o the_o heretic_n so_o the_o jesuite_n do_v claim_v the_o patronage_n of_o the_o father_n in_o this_o poinâ—and_n yet_o for_o this_o very_a thing_n the_o father_n do_v condemn_v the_o heretic_n you_o may_v well_o shake_v hand_n with_o heretic_n in_o allege_v and_o commend_v that_o work_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n which_o be_v at_o first_o allege_v by_o the_o heretic_n and_o condeâ—â—ed_v by_o the_o catholic_n as_o i_o have_v 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troth_n or_o amble_v the_o holy_a scripture_n answer_n answer_n say_v s._n luâ—an_n s._n cyril_n l._n 7._o cont_n luâ—an_n cyrill_n of_o alexandria_n be_v sufficient_a to_o make_v they_o which_o be_v bring_v up_o in_o it_o wise_a and_o most_o approve_a and_o furnish_v with_o sufficient_a understanding_n and_o again_o that_o which_o the_o holy_a scripture_n have_v not_o say_v by_o what_o mean_n shall_v we_o receive_v and_o account_v it_o among_o those_o thing_n that_o be_v true_a s._n cyrill_n as_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o father_n under_o the_o 145_o reply_v pag._n 145_o name_n of_o scripture_n comprehendâ—th_v always_o unwritten_a tradition_n 14._o sure_o the_o sea_n make_v his_o brain_n addle_n he_o go_v far_o to_o suck_v a_o bull_n and_o here_o be_v a_o bull_n indeed_o he_o may_v aswell_o sâ—â—_n by_o a_o man_n be_v mean_v a_o bull_n or_o under_o a_o man_n be_v comprehend_v a_o bull_n as_o to_o say_v under_o scripture_n the_o faiber_n always_o comprehend_v unwritten_a tradition_n 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