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An ansvvere to a certaine treatise of the crosse in baptisme. Intituled A short treatise of the crosse in baptisme contracted into this syllogisme. No humane ordinance becomming an idoll may lawfully be vsed in the service of God. But the signe of the crosse, being an humane ordinance is become an idoll. Ergo: the signe of the crosse, may not lawfully bee vsed in the service of God. VVherein not only the weaknesse of the syllogisme it selfe, but also of the grounds and proofes thereof, are plainely discovered. By L.H. Doct. of Divinitie.
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Hutton, Leonard.
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thibaritano_n ca._n 7._o christianicum_fw-la ethnicis_fw-la christum_fw-la crucifixum_fw-la deridentibus_fw-la permixti_fw-la ut_fw-la doctrinae_fw-la salutaris_fw-la quae_fw-la in_o christum_n nos_fw-la credere_fw-la iubet_fw-la se_fw-la minime_fw-la pudere_fw-la testaerentur_fw-la digitis_fw-la in_o aere_fw-la formabant_fw-la figuram_fw-la transuersam_fw-la quasi_fw-la crucis_fw-la quae_fw-la cerimonia_fw-la tunc_fw-la erat_fw-la christianismi_fw-la non_fw-la superstitionis_fw-la magicae_fw-la ut_fw-la postea_fw-la accidit_fw-la symbolum_fw-la that_o it_o may_v once_o have_v have_v good_a use_n and_o be_v a_o profession_n of_o christianity_n as_o mr._n beza_n speak_v or_o that_o st._n augustine_n and_o other_o ancient_n use_v it_o with_o such_o due_a regard_n as_o thereto_o belong_v as_o hemingius_n think_v or_o that_o it_o be_v a_o most_o ancient_a use_n in_o the_o church_n very_o simple_a and_o of_o present_a admonition_n of_o the_o cross_n of_o christ_n as_o bucer_n testify_v to_o my_o understanding_n do_v plain_o describe_v a_o most_o christian_n and_o religious_a use_n of_o it_o among_o the_o ancient_n and_o utter_o discover_v your_o slanderous_a accusation_n but_o those_o other_o that_o tell_v you_o particular_o wherein_o it_o be_v well_o use_v as_o pezel_n m._n perk._n &_o by_o a_o proposition_n most_o manifest_o contradictory_n unto_o you_o say_v it_o have_v a_o most_o holy_a and_o godly_a end_n as_o daneus_n and_o that_o it_o be_v without_o any_o superstition_n in_o the_o ancient_n as_o goulartius_n &_o zanchius_n do_v they_o i_o say_v plain_o free_v it_o from_o sin_n and_o superstition_n and_o with_o a_o contrary_a testimony_n in_o flat_a term_n convince_v the_o insolency_n and_o audaciousnes_n of_o your_o false_a asseveration_n touch_v the_o second_o if_o it_o be_v yet_o be_v a_o humane_a ordinance_n etc._n etc._n your_o two_o reason_n because_o it_o be_v a_o humane_a ordinance_n abuse_v and_o because_o it_o be_v now_o also_o become_v a_o idol_n be_v answer_v before_o and_o it_o have_v oftentimes_o be_v say_v that_o those_o pollution_n how_o abominable_a soever_o do_v extend_v themselves_o no_o far_o then_o to_o the_o person_n that_o be_v pollute_v with_o they_o jndifferent_a thing_n can_v defile_v they_o that_o use_v they_o with_o a_o sincere_a mind_n and_o pure_a conscience_n how_o soever_o they_o be_v abuse_v by_o other_o and_o therefore_o you_o may_v well_o have_v spare_v your_o huge_a word_n execrable_a abominable_a idol_n filth_n no_o water_n can_v cleanse_v it_o nor_o any_o pretext_n purify_v it_o etc._n etc._n except_o you_o have_v bring_v other_o argument_n than_o these_o the_o weakness_n where_o of_o do_v most_o manifest_o appear_v all_o the_o big_a word_n that_o you_o can_v bring_v will_v not_o make_v the_o uncleanness_n you_o speak_v of_o defiâ—e_v the_o innocent_a nor_o the_o pollution_n and_o abomination_n of_o popish_a idolatry_n cleave_v unto_o the_o true_a protestant_n that_o with_o a_o good_a conscience_n use_v the_o ceremony_n and_o with_o hart_n and_o soul_n abhor_v the_o superstition_n and_o thus_o much_o to_o the_o second_o part_n of_o your_o answer_n your_o three_o follow_v now_o to_o be_v consider_v treatise_n 10._o sect._n but_o in_o very_a deed_n to_o speak_v as_o the_o truth_n be_v the_o cross_n be_v retain_v among_o we_o 30._o canon_n 30._o with_o opinion_n very_o superstitious_a &_o erroneous_a for_o in_o the_o late_a canon_n it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o child_n be_v thereby_o dedicate_v unto_o the_o service_n of_o he_o that_o die_v on_o the_o cross_n what_o be_v this_o but_o to_o equal_a man_n ordinance_n with_o god_n and_o to_o ascribe_v that_o unto_o the_o cross_n which_o be_v due_a unto_o baptism_n a_o conceit_n fit_a for_o ignorant_a papist_n then_o learned_a christian_n to_o assent_v unto_o neither_o do_v we_o use_v it_o as_o the_o ancient_n do_v for_o cyprian_a augustine_n chrysostome_n and_o other_o as_o be_v apparent_a at_o those_o time_n do_v consecrate_v the_o element_n 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contrariwise_o the_o cross_n neither_o give_v any_o thing_n to_o the_o child_n nor_o promise_v nor_o be_v any_o other_o thing_n than_o a_o outward_a ceremony_n only_o signify_v that_o the_o child_n hereafter_o shall_v not_o be_v ashamed_a to_o confess_v the_o faith_n of_o christ_n crucify_v etc._n etc._n second_o the_o word_n dedicate_v do_v not_o always_o signify_v to_o sanctify_v or_o to_o consecrate_v but_o sometime_o to_o appropriate_v to_o appoint_v to_o some_o special_a use_n to_o declare_v and_o testify_v that_o the_o thing_n be_v assign_v addict_v and_o call_v out_o to_o such_o for_o such_o a_o several_a purpose_n office_n person_n or_o service_n and_o this_o be_v most_o manifest_a by_o that_o use_n of_o this_o word_n which_o be_v most_o ordinary_a and_o common_a in_o our_o speech_n as_o namely_o to_o dedicate_v a_o book_n to_o a_o great_a personage_n be_v not_o in_o in_o our_o language_n to_o consecrate_v &_o sanctify_v it_o unto_o he_o but_o by_o that_o word_n of_o 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hope_v in_o your_o apprehension_n make_v the_o servant_n or_o soldier_n that_o wear_v it_o to_o be_v of_o such_o a_o noble_a man_n retinue_n or_o such_o a_o captain_n regiment_n but_o because_o he_o be_v of_o that_o retinewe_n he_o wear_v that_o badge_n or_o cognizance_n and_o because_o he_o be_v of_o that_o regiment_n he_o wear_v those_o colour_n and_o yet_o both_o the_o one_o and_o the_o other_o do_v make_v other_o man_n to_o know_v &_o withal_o do_v put_v himself_o in_o remembrance_n that_o such_o a_o noble_a man_n man_n or_o such_o a_o captain_n soldier_n he_o be_v and_o such_o he_o ought_v to_o show_v himself_o to_o be_v even_o so_o it_o be_v in_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o cross_n the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n make_v not_o the_o child_n to_o be_v the_o servant_n or_o soldier_n of_o christ_n but_o because_o by_o baptism_n he_o be_v so_o make_v therefore_o he_o be_v sign_v with_o that_o honourable_a badge_n that_o thereby_o both_o other_o man_n may_v know_v that_o he_o be_v the_o servant_n and_o soldier_n of_o christ_n scipsum_fw-la declaratorie_n quoad_fw-la alios_fw-la memoratiuè_fw-la et_fw-fr monitoriè_fw-fr quoad_fw-la scipsum_fw-la and_o himself_o may_v be_v remember_v and_o admonise_v that_o he_o be_v in_o all_o his_o life_n to_o show_v himself_o as_o the_o faithful_a servant_n of_o such_o a_o master_n and_o the_o courageous_a soldier_n of_o such_o a_o captain_n which_o our_o communion_n book_n most_o wise_o &_o beyond_o all_o exception_n of_o malice_n set_v down_o in_o these_o religious_a term_n in_o token_n that_o he_o shall_v not_o be_v ashamed_a to_o confess_v the_o faith_n of_o christ_n crucify_v and_o manful_o to_o fight_v under_o his_o banner_n against_o sin_n the_o world_n and_o the_o devil_n and_o to_o continue_v his_o faithful_a soldier_n and_o servant_n unto_o his_o life_n end_n last_o if_o the_o canon_n shall_v have_v say_v sanctify_a or_o consecrate_v i_o perceive_v we_o shall_v have_v have_v much_o a_o do_v with_o the_o treatiser_n and_o yet_o all_o antiquity_n as_o afterward_o i_o shall_v have_v better_a occasion_n to_o declare_v 26._o aug._n de_fw-fr peccat_fw-la meritis_fw-la &_o remissione_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 26._o and_o special_o st._n augustine_n teach_v we_o so_o to_o say_v catechumenos_fw-la say_v he_o secundum_fw-la quendam_fw-la modum_fw-la suum_fw-la per_fw-la signum_fw-la christi_fw-la &_o orationem_fw-la manus_fw-la impositionis_fw-la puto_fw-la sanctificari_fw-la i_o think_v the_o catechumeni_fw-la be_v sanctify_v after_o a_o certain_a manner_n of_o they_o by_o the_o sign_n of_o christ_n and_o prayer_n of_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n but_o what_o need_v i_o allege_v st._n augustine_n our_o own_o man_n use_v the_o word_n consecrare_fw-la to_o signify_v to_o allot_v or_o appoint_v for_o some_o use_n as_o i_o tell_v you_o before_o the_o word_n dedicare_fw-la do_v signify_v as_o may_v appear_v at_o large_a by_o the_o testimony_n of_o goulartius_n consecrare_fw-la panem_fw-la &_o vinum_fw-la 39_o goulart_n cap._n 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not_o cross_v the_o child_n forehead_n at_o all_o but_o refer_v that_o unto_o the_o bishopp_n confirmation_n so_o that_o our_o cross_v the_o infant_n forehead_n &_o not_o the_o element_n of_o baptism_n be_v a_o mere_a novelty_n of_o some_o 600._o year_n stand_v as_o you_o say_v in_o the_o margin_n without_o any_o warrant_n of_o that_o antiquity_n for_o answer_v to_o the_o first_o that_o we_o do_v not_o all_o that_o the_o ancient_n do_v that_o be_v not_o use_v the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n to_o so_o many_o purpose_n as_o they_o do_v we_o do_v easy_o acknowledge_v but_o this_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o point_n in_o question_n for_o what_o if_o this_o particular_a you_o allege_v of_o consecrate_v the_o element_n with_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n be_v one_o of_o those_o naevi_fw-fr of_o the_o ancient_n what_o if_o they_o haply_o do_v amiss_o in_o so_o do_v as_o you_o say_v afterward_o they_o do_v or_o what_o if_o they_o do_v well_o in_o so_o do_v &_o the_o superstition_n be_v bring_v in_o afterward_o will_v you_o have_v we_o to_o embrace_v their_o vice_n as_o well_o as_o their_o virtue_n or_o will_v you_o take_v away_o the_o liberty_n of_o our_o church_n in_o make_v choice_n of_o her_o ceremony_n or_o will_v you_o hence_o conclude_v that_o we_o may_v not_o retain_v their_o good_a thing_n for_o the_o which_o they_o be_v worthy_o commend_v except_o we_o also_o receive_v those_o defect_n and_o imperfection_n which_o succeed_a age_n bring_v in_o afterwards_o but_o this_o be_v no_o way_n agreeable_a to_o reason_n i_o rather_o think_v it_o better_a to_o follow_v that_o counsel_n that_o st._n hierom_n give_v of_o read_v origens_n work_n 54._o hieron_n ad_fw-la tran_n qutll_v l._n 1._o ep_v 54._o and_o to_o apply_v it_o to_o this_o matter_n of_o the_o ceremony_n of_o the_o ancient_n ut_fw-la bona_fw-la eorum_fw-la eligamus_fw-la vitemusque_fw-la contraria_fw-la iuxta_fw-la apostolum_n dicentem_fw-la omne_fw-la probate_a quod_fw-la bonum_fw-la est_fw-la