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A00831 A very fruitfull exposition of the Commaundements by way of questions and answeres for greater plainnesse together with an application of euery one to the soule and conscience of man, profitable for all, and especially for them that (beeing not otherwise furnished) are yet desirous both to see themselues, and to deliuer to others some larger speech of euery point that is but briefly named in the shorter catechismes. By Geruase Babington. Babington, Gervase, 1550-1610. 1583 (1583) STC 1095; ESTC S108401 209,221 568

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●orde alas I knowe it is not great y●ough neither answereth it the greatnesse of my sinne but thou canst giue greater if it please thée O deare Father rent my heart and giue mée féeling cleaue it a sunder by thy pearcing spirit that from it may flowe the teares of true repentaunce strike good Lorde this harde rocke of mine that it may gushe out sorowfull water for so fowle offence and what wanteth in mée any wayes supplie in mercie with my Sauiour in whom thou art perfectly pleased Graunt O God vnto mée thy gratious spirit to kill in mée continually more and more the strength and power of sinne and to rayse mée vp in bodie and soule to more obedience towardes thée Let not my wantes stande euer swéete Lorde betwixt thy mercie and mée but giue mee will to wishe it giue me power to doe it giue mée loue to like it and euer strength to continue in it that thou hast appointed for mee to walke in before thée in this worlde Heare mee O Lorde O God O swéete and endlesse comfort of my sinnefull soule for Iesus Christ his sake that liuing heare I may euer serue thee and dooing so I may neuer loose thée Amen Amen The second Commaundement Thou shalt not make to thy selfe any grauen image nor the likenesse of any thing that is in heauen aboue or in the earth beneath c. FIrst for the order of this Commaundement eyther wee may answere that this first Table contayning the honour and duetie of men to the Lorde as the se●ond doeth their duetie to man and the worshippe of GOD being part●y inwarde partly outwarde ha●ing in the former Commaundement laide downe the former kinde to wit of inward worship fitly now in this the two next folow the outward duties which to the same our gratious God we iustly owe. Or else thus That the Lorde in the first commaundement hauing separated himselfe from al other gods deuised and made by men and commanded all mortall men and women his creatures subiect to his Lawe to worship him onely and none but him here now in this second precept as order required he setteth downe modum rationē iuxta quam coli velit the waie and maner how he wil bee serued Forasmuch as in vaine he should haue doone the first except he had done the second also The way and maner is this euen according to his will and nature Which albeit it may séeme to flesh and bloud not so fitlie done by a negatiue lawe as by an affirmatiue it might yet besides that we are not to teache the Lorde euen in speciall wisedome hath he thus doone it For first our natures are very prone to the breache hereof which by a negatiue is stronglier beat downe than by an affirmatiue and then againe the Gentiles next neighbours to the Iewes were very much giuen to idols and images and therefore by name forbidden to the Iewes least by the Gentiles in that point they should be defiled And yet doth not the Lord here so set downe a negatiue but that he includeth an affirmatiue in it For as he saith Thou shalt not make to thy selfe any grauen image and meaneth thereby Thou shalt not worship mee with any deuise of ●hine owne contrary to my wil and na●ure so implieth he herein the affirma●iue namely thou shalt in euery re●pect worship me according to my will ●nd nature Moreouer remember here ●gaine which hath béene touched be●re that both in this commandement 〈◊〉 in all other the Lord setteth downe 〈◊〉 name that thing the doing whereof 〈◊〉 not doing is most decent or horri●●e And therefore in this place for●●●ding all false and fonde worshippe 〈◊〉 his Maiestie hee setteth downe in name that which is most vnséemely and vile to wit Idolatrie For of all wrong worshippe to make him like a man or woman or other worse creature to prostrate our selues thereunto and to thinke wee worship him in so dooing is most horrible What expositions your Booke giueth you may looke and marke adding for more plainnesse thereunto thus much that the very meaning of this commandement in effect is thus much as if the Lorde should haue said although the corrupt nature of man bee such as naturally he desireth my presence in some visible forme and shape foolishly thinking that then he is most neare vnto mee when he hath before his eyes some visible picture of mee yet for as much as this and the worship hereby doone vnto mee is neither agréeable to my will nor nature I therefore commaund thée that thou make to thy selfe no grauen image c. That is that thou goe not about to represent me by any likenesse of any creature whatsoeuer neither to worship mée in or vnder any such showes or after any way than out of my worde thou learnest to bee agréeable both to my will and nature Easilie then may we sée what wee are occasioned here in this commandement to consider of namely 1 The making of Images 2 The worshipping of them 3 The reasons God vseth here Touching the first then vsually vppon this occasion is mooued this question whether simplie it bee vnlawfull and misliked of the Lorde to make any kinde of Image by painting car●ing ingrauing c. And it séemeth yea ●ecause the woordes are so flatte with●ut exception Thou shalt not make any grauen image c. For answere whereunto 3. seuerall ●udgements are founde amongst men ●ome thinke in déede all pictures and ●mages to be vnlawfull aswell in Ci●ill vse as in religious and such are the ●urkes by name if it bee truely writ●n of them Whose money they say hath neuer any image vpon it but certain Arabike letters their other works as carpets couerings quisshins c. vtterly also without any image of man or any liuing creature vpon them and all because they thinke it vnlawful Others thinke it lawful to make any picture at all yea euen of God himselfe so that the same be not worshipped as a bare picture image And they vnderstand this commaundement of images made to this ende to be adored These are our Papists The thirde iudgement and best is of them that thinke it lawful to make pictures of things which we haue séene to a ciuill vse but not to vse them in the Church and for religion Now for the first opinion it is out of all question false and too superstitious For howsoeuer the Turks receiue not such profe yet we that imbrace cleaue to the authoritie of Gods worde know that the Lorde hath not lefte this commaundement neither any other without large and plaine exposition in other places of the scripture and therfore we are to conferre place with place practise with precept and so to sée whether in déede all images be forbidden to be made or no. First then marke the wordes in Leuiticus Leuit. 26.1 Ye shall make you no Idols nor grauen Image neither reare you vp any pillers c. Out of which place thus I
the glorie of God so much as of man ought to bee sought for Que. How may the first be prooued The first reason drawen of the vanitie of all things Ans The great vanitie of all earthly things which men so hunt after doth showe that our care shoulde not bee so much of these matters as it is but rather howe to haue our soules saued when all these shall haue their end For consider euē the chiefest desires of men seuerally and sée how in the attaining of them there is no stayed comfort and yet often doe men faile after much indeuour and not attaine to them Que. What chiefe desires of men can you name vnto mee Ans Mirth and ioy a light and a chéerefull heart is greatly wished Mirth and ioy and sought for of all men by Musicke by iesters by sportes and playes by much cost and many meanes as they can and are able neither is this simplie to bee condemned in all yet heare what sentence the spirit of God hath giuen of it by the mouth of his seruaunt who tryed the same and let his experience bee our knowledge I said to my heart saith he goe to nowe Ecclesi 2.1 I will prooue thee with ioy therefore take thou pleasure in pleasant things and beholde this al●o is vanitie I said of laughter thou art mad and of ioy what is this that thou doest And in another place 7.4 Better it is to go into the house of mourning than of feasting because this is the ende of all men and the liuing shall lay it to his heart Anger is better than laughter for by a sad looke the heart is made better The heart of the wise is in the house of mourning but the heart of fooles is in the house of myrth Mille parit luctus mortalibus vna voluptas For euery ioy that man doeth here possesse A thousand woes his minde doe dayly presse Secondly to rake vp riches also in this world and to possesse great wealth Riches it is a thing endeuoured almost of all Happie is he and wise accounted who can fastest attaine vnto it yet heare and note the spéeche of Iames amongst numbers moe to the same end Iames. 5.1 Goe to nowe saith he ye riche men weepe howle for your miseries that shall come vpon you your riches are corrupt and your garments motheaten your golde and siluer is cancred the rust of them shall witnesse against you and shall eate your flesh as it were fier To builde and inhabite great and goodly houses howe many men bewitched with vanitie Buildings delight in it and with much care and cost applie themselues vnto it Yet sée they or may sée the spéeche of Salomon vpon experience saying I haue made my great workes I haue built me houses I haue planted me vineyards I haue made me gardens and orchards and planted in them trees of all fruite and so forth Yea euen whatsoeuer mine eyes desired I withhelde it not from them neyther withdrew I my heart from any ioie then I looked on all my works that my hands had wrought and on the trauell that I had laboured to doe and beholde all is vanitie and vexation of the spirite and there is no profite vnder the Sun When it shal be saide to them as it was to that purposing builder in the Gospell Thou foole this night shall they take away thy soule Luke 12.20 then may it also folow fitly be demanded whose shal these stately houses be Thus eyther may they knowe the vanitie of their dealing but yet wil not or else doe they knowe it but regarde it not Apparell againe is another of the raging desires of many Apparell Euen a worlde it is to sée howe all as dead doe tast no sinne in it but spend and spare not what possiblie may be gotten to bestowe on it yet what beginning had it Was it not then inuented when man had sinned grieuouslie offended his God and cast himselfe away both bodie and soule Séeing then in our integritie it was not vsed but after sinne bestowed on man to hide his shame withall what may it euer beate into vs but our rebellion against the Lorde our sinne and cursed disobedience Howe should the sight of it and vse of it humble vs and not puffe vs vp seeing it plainely telleth vs we are not as we were when no apparell was worne and yet no shame thereby Were it not monstrous pride if a redéemed prisoner conditionally that he should euer weare an halter should waxe prowde of his halter Mans apparell is the badge of a sinner yea of a condemned and cursed sinner therefore the pride of it and delight in it no doubt very monstrous before the Lorde and hatefull If euery silken sute and gorgeous gowne in Englande shrowded vnder it a saued soule and a sanctified bodie in the sight of God O happie then England of all the nations vnder heauē But if vnder such garded garments may and doeth lodge a body and soule abhorred of the Lorde that in the day of wrath shall finde no fauour then is it not apparell that ought to be sought after but in the day of iudgemēt how we may be saued Credite and fauour with the world What should I say of fauor credit with great estates in the worlde of countenance and authoritie O howe doe men desire it and séeke it sewe and serue for it their care both day and night is howe to attaine the fastest to it yet what more tickle than the state hereof if GOD gaue vs hearts to marke it For how soone faded the credite of Dauid with his wauer n● Master Saul 1. Kings 18. Howe sodainely and quickely chaunged the liking of that king into cruel hatred of a faithful seruaunt and sonne in Lawe Haman as it were to day Hester 7. set at the Kings table where none but the King Queene were the next day quite out of fauour and hanged vp full highe What credite had Ioseph with his master Gene. 39. when he committed all thinges to him that euer he had sauing his wife to be at his direction Yet euen in a moment without cause falsely slaundered all credite lost and he clapt close vp in prison Many such examples hath the worde and all histories and therefore truely saide he it whosoeuer saide it as the Counter so is the Courtier for that standeth euen nowe for a thousand poundes and by and by through a litle remooue but for a halfepenie and so he to day in all glorie to morowe in litle or none Yet not more the Courtier than euen euery man in his place and seruice to day trusted to morow suspected to day loued to morowe misliked to day with desire entertayned and made of to morowe as néedelesse cast off contemned Fickle therefore is the worldly fauour and greater good there is for men to séeke after Great matches in maryage for their
the play is peraduēture the strangenes of the place lacke of light to guide them causeth errour in their way more than good Christians should in their houses suffer Que. What else Ans Dancing againe is in the number of vaine pastimes and the allurements to vncleannesse as much experience hath too wel proued The scriptures checke it the fathers mislike it the coūcels haue condemned it the proofe of Gods iudgementes vpon it biddeth vs beware Instrumenta luxuriae tympana tripudia sayth one the inticers to lust are pipinges and dancinges Laquei sunt scandala non solū saltatoribus sed spectatoribus They are snares and offences not onely to the actors but also to the beholders Iob. 21.11 Iob noteth it as an olde practise of the deuil to occupy men withall as an ancient exercise of the wicked that they should daunce Vpon which wordes a godly writer sayeth Calu. serm 80. vpon Iob. that from the tabret and the flute which in themselues are not vnlawefull they come to dauncing which is the chiefest mischiefe of all For there is alway sayth he such vnchast behauiour in dauncing that of it selfe and as they abuse it to speake ●he trueth in the worde it is nothing else but an inticement to whoredome In the gospell the spirite of God noteth it in a wicked woman as an immodest thing Math. 14. of a damnable effect in her wicked father Herode to dance And such as interpret the place are not afraide of these words Marlor ex Calu. that it was meretriciae lasci●iae turpis nota nubilis puellae saltatio That is that for her to dance beeing a maide for yeares mariageable was a note of whorish wantonnesse For whosoeuer saith he hath a care of honest grauitie he euer condemneth dancing and especially in a maide Againe hee calleth it spectaculum familiae Regiae probrosum A dishonorable sight in a kings house with manie speaches moe of mislike Sirac a wise man Syrac 9.4 and of great experience biddeth a man not to vse the companie of a woman that is a singer and a dauncer neither to heare her least hee bee taken with her craftinesse The godlie Fathers as I saide mislike it For saltatio ad adulteras Ambros de virgin lib. 3. non ad pudicas pertinet saith one of them Dauncing belongeth to adulterous and not to honest women A sharpe spéeche Yet was this graue father not afraide to speake it Saltatio barathrum diaboli Chryst Math. hom 48. sayth an other dauncing is the deuils hell And we heare spéeche of Iacobs mariage saith he in the scripture in Genes but not a worde of anie dauncing that was at it Theophilact in Mar. 6. Mira collusio sayth an other Saltat diabolus per puellam It is a strange iugling when wee thinke the maide doth daunce and it is not so but the deuill in her or by her The councels haue condemned it as others haue at large shewed And verie Tullie could say an honest man would not dance in an open place for a great patrimonie For the iudgementes of God vpon this vaine pastime it is strange which Pantaleon noteth out of Crantzius that in Colbecke a towne in Germanie certaine light persons hopping and dauncing in the Churchyearde of S. Magnus An. 1505. beeing by the minister admonished to cease and not ceasing did for a long time not able to stay runne rounde about and at last fell all downe dead But because others haue so largelie writ against this vanitie I say no more of it at this time but wish vs to consider that it is an inticement otten to adulterie and therefore in this commaundement forbidden And as for anie dauncing that wee reade of in the scriptures to haue béene vsed of the godly we must vnderstande that their dancing was euer a sober modest motion with some song vsually to Gods praise and men by themselues women by themselues Which nothing will warrant our custome and guise in these daies Que. Are there yet anie moe allurementes Ans There are yet many mo But I may not in this sort stande vpon them Gluttonie drunkennesse Ezek 16. with houses of open whoredome your booke nameth and proofes for them Idlenesse also is an other meanes 1. Cor. 7.39 the vowe of chastitie the deniall of seconde mariages the going of men in womens apparell and women in mans apparell Deut. 22. with a number such This onelie must I say and so conclude this negatiue part of the commaundement For he that will no euill do must nothing doe that longs thereto looke whatsoeuer it is that we can sée to bee anie allurement anie occasion or meanes to vncleannesse all that is condemned in this commaundement as much as the verie act of adulterie which heere onely is expressed Then howe the holie Pope of Rome can warrant by the worde of God the erection and continuaunce of his stewes iudge you although his gaine be neuer so much thereby Nay howe could that monster Sixtus the fourth warrant the erection of a stewes of both kindes In king Edwarde 4. that is both of women and men whereby 20000 and some yeares 40 thousande ducketes came to his coffers Or the whole Church of Rome so like of and so diminish the sinne of fornication Can this their spirite that guideth them be the spirite of GOD when it condemneth not the act whereof God condemneth all occasions and allurementes No no the Lorde giue vs eies and then haue we markes sufficient to bewray them by Que. Thus then may we see what we ●re forbidden in this lawe nowe I pray you adde something of the thinges we are commaunded in the same Ans For this matter your booke answereth well that as wee are forbidden in it all vncleannesse and all inticementes to the same so on the other side we are commaunded to kéepe our bodies and soules chast and pure as temples of the holy ghost or if the guift of chastitie be not giuen vs then to vse the lawefull remedie appointed for vs by God which is mariage Concerning therefore chastity we are to know that verie greatly the scripture layeth downe Gods liking of it and with many wordes exhorteth vs vnto it This is the will of God sayth the Apostle euen your sanctification and that you should abstaine from fornication ●hat euerie one of you should know how to possesse their vessels in honor and ho●inesse not in the lust of cōcupiscence euen as the gentils which know not God And in an other place 2. Cor. 7.1 Seeing sayth he that we haue these promises dearly beloued let vs clense our selues frō al filthines of the flesh and spirite and grow vp vnto all holinesse in the feare of God And againe the same Apostle beseecheth the God of peace to sanctifie them throughout 1. Thes 5.23 that their whole spirit and body soule may be kept blamelesse til the
then all with one consent crie in the eares of the Lord with shriking sounde that houres and daies monthes and yeares haue we spent in tossing and turning in debating and scanning such conceites and thoughtes as we would not for all that we enioy were written in our forheads Fie fie the pleasures that we haue felt in this follie nay in this impietie howe haue they tickled vs within and made vs laugh to our selues rubbe our hands together forgette our meat not heare what was saide about vs and such like Howe haue we longed to be at an ende peraduenture of some businesse that we haue béene about that we might euen fully debate the matter you knowe of and plaie with the conceite thereof to our fuller pleasure Can we excuse our selues beloued doe I depaint out vnknowen dispositions vnto you O I say againe beside greater impieties the follies the toyes the trifles the verie babish fancies that will and doe steale vpon vs will we nill we euen when wee are best occupied and would not be solicited in such sort All which are breaches lesser and greater of this lawe of our God which requireth exact obedience and coniunction of all the motions of our mind to his good will and liking And if we had neuer fallen wee should neuer haue felt them Therefore to sh●t vp this matter for one whom I knowe better than I know anie of you I confesse a guilt a gréeuous guilt against this precept of my God and I acknowledge damnation due if I should be reiected but the Lorde I thanke I feare it not not that I haue not sinned but because my Christ hath not sinned and He is my iustification sanctification and redemption 1. Cor. 1. hee is my strength and my stonie rocke both against the curse of this lawe and all the rest He is my defence and my Sauiour Psalm 18.1 my God and my might in whom I do trust my buckler the horne of my health and my refuge And to him in the true sense of my weakenesse and with the knéees of my heart bowed downe to the dust I say for my case as Dauid sayd for his Turne away my heart O Lorde that it may neuer féede vppon the follies of vaine conceites or gréeue the swéete spirite that I sometimes féele by vngodly wandring from his sugred motions Yea set a watch before my soule most gracious father and kéepe the doore of my strengthlesse heart that I may lesse offend and more obey in this behalfe than euer I haue doone héeretofore And now passe wee on to particulars mentioned to our handes by the Lorde himselfe in this his lawe O my beloued how often haue we coueted our neighbours house that is his earthly possession and inheritance if not in whole yet in part How often haue wee tossed our heades from the one ende of the pillowe to the other not able to sléepe for thinking howe to compasse that péece and this péece not weighing howe well he might spare it but howe well it would fitte vs Yea this house must be had and that garden and the other close to the wringing out of teares from the man the wife and al their poore children that part from it to the gréeuing of their heartes and the verie vtter vndooing of them all We stoppe not our eies that they gaze no further vppon our neighbours helpes than a Christian soule may warrant We shut not our eares neither take regarde of the sinne that may insue when we are whispered in the eare that this thing is fitte for vs and that thing and thus and thus may be had No alas we account them the best members about vs whose godlesse counsell shall worke our endlesse woe Whereas a Christian assoone as hee heareth such a motion should by and by thinke in himselfe O Lord thou hast delt mercifully with me euer let not me now deale vnmercifully with any thou hast made me a maister of much this mā a maister but of a litle O Lorde let not my much eate him out of his litle vngodlily let not my power oppresse his weakenesse and so foorth and then talke with the informer be it either a man or mine owne gréedie eie that hath spied it and sée whether what I may get I may well gette and well take into my hands so as I may not be stinged for it an other day before my God nor exclamed vppon iustly in the worlde This doeth your owne conscience tell you you should doe and the other you should not doe yet the other haue you doone and this haue you not doone and are you not guiltie Good beloued goe with me in this tryall of our selues and let vs sée sinne to be sinne The looking eie and the lusting heart further after our neighbours wife than they should would God they accused vs not What should I say of his seruant man or maide You knowe it aswell as my selfe there is almost no conscience any where shewed in this behalfe no feare of God no loue of man but onely of our selues For if wee like an other mans seruant for any qualitie that we desire to be serued with all what intisementes what allurementes dare wee vse to drawe him to vs What offers make we what practises deuise we till we haue them Yet sayth this lawe Thou shalt not couet thy neighbours seruant man or maide And that is as nowe we knowe not once thinke of it although I consent not to it The like is saide of his oxe his asse or any thing that is his And yet wee sée the worlde euer in our eye Vicinum pecus grandius vber habet Our neighbours kowe doeth giue more milke than ours His horse we must haue there is no remedie his hawke his hounde his pleasure or profitte must be ours and that which is worse often without any consideration any way either by fauour or value yea it must be giuen out that we couet our neighbours goods and wee our selues haue twentie pretie indirect and figuratiue kindes of begging and if wee either are not vnderstoode or will not be vnderstoode by him that hath it because he is loth to loose it then wee frette and are offended highly and as our calling might and power is we sitte vppon his skirtes Thus sinne we may déere beloued against this lawe of GOD and yet we sée it not Nowe would God haue vs to open our eyes to incline our eares and to forgette this olde fathers house of our corruption Nowe would the Lorde haue vs reconciled to him by repentaunce and offende no more And therefore I crie vnto you in the name of the Lorde and to this soule within mee Thou shalt not couet If we will heare his voice and yet harden our heartes if we will not restraine our senses the common carriers of conceites into vs if wee will not euen euerie way wee can héereafter séeke to let and lessen our disobedience in this thing against the Lorde the day of our visitation is past and our destruction is at hande The lyon is come vp from his denne Ierem. 4. and the destroyer of the Gentilles is departed and gone foorth from his place to laie our lande waste and our cities shall be destroyed without an inhabitant Yea so néere is our desolation assuredly my beloued that euen as it were presently my soule heareth the sounde of the trumpette and the alarome of the battaill Destruction vpon destruction is cryed euen at our doores if we could heare it and sodenly shall our tentes be destroyed and our curtaines in a moment But I hope what I wish and I wish what shall be our sure safetie if we will be perswaded euen that we would now sée howe farre wee are from abilitie to fulfill these 10 commandementes of our God either all or any one of them deuise what distinction we can horrible sinners and transgressers we are and so we shall be founde and therefore that wee would acknowledge it lament it flie to the propitiation apointed of our gracious God for our sinnes and onely cleaue to him onely trust in him and claspe him in our armes so as all the worlde nor the power of hell can loose our houlde carie him so to his father and there offer him to him for all our misdéedes as the saluation which hee hath prepared before the face of all people and in whom hee is perfectly pleased This wish I this begge I this craue I with all the bowelles of my affection my flesh shaking mine eies watering my soule groning and all the stringes of my heart inlarged as you feare God as you loue your selues as my calling is regarded as my affection estéemed or as hell trēbled at that Iesus Christ may be our onely hould and our owne obedience no hould yet performed as a fruite of faith daily more and more but not with hope of safetie by the fame either in part or in whole and this O my good God graunt vnto vs as thy mercie is vnmeasurable thy goodnesse and louing kindnes vnsearchable what passed is good Lord forgiue and make vs better euer liue Amen Amen Prouer. 19. Heare counsel and receiue correction for they shall make a man wise at the last Deutro 5. O that there were such an heart in this people to feare me and to keepe all my commandements alway that it might go well with them and with their children for euer Psalm 19. Let the wordes of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be alway acceptable in thy sight good Lorde When gracious God by sacred worde vouchsafes to cal from cursed course O happie we ten thousand times if feeling heartes doe yeeld remorse But if contempt of offred grace accuse vs crauing sentence iust Then cursed we ten thousande times for hell remaines whē hence we must Consider this my countrey deere and marke it Cardiff heedily The Lorde nowe speakes then take thy good or looke for vengeance speedily Hwyra dial dial duw Tosta dial dial duw Hugh Poole minister of the worde of God in Cardiff