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A85152 Truth cleared of scandals, or truth lifting up its head above scandals, &c. Occasioned by the meeting of those people called Baptists, and those whom the world scornfully calleth Quakers, at Harlington in stafforthshire, upon the 27. day of the 7 month, in the year 1654. Shewing the difference betwixt the ordinances of Christ and of Antichrist, and the true worship and the false, with a discovery of the two seeds, and the New Covenant, the doctrine of baptismes, laying on of hands, the ressurectio, and eternal judgement, Heb. 6. 1, 2, 3, and Heb. 12.22, and 23. Also, the unprofitable servant and the talents, and of being caught up into paradise, the thorn in the flesh, and what it is to take pleasure in infirmities, and what those infirmities are, that is to be gloried in; also, something of perfection, and imperfection, and the glorying in the crosse largely proved, according to scripture, &c. / By one known to the world by the name of Rich. Fanrworth. R. F. (Richard Farnworth), d. 1666. 1654 (1654) Wing F512; Thomason E820_3; ESTC R207345 39,723 39

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for the Law made nothing perfect but the bringing in of a better hope did which hope is Christ as it is said the Mystery and the hope of Glory as it is written Col. 1.27 1 Iohn 3.3 verse and he that hath this hope purifieth himself even as he is pure as Iohn hath said whose words thou would have had by thy craft to have made void and null the Covenant of God in Christ Jesus our Lord which thou could not for Christ Jesus is the end of the one and the beginning and fulfilling of the other who took away the first and did establish the second and by one offering he hath for ever perfected them that are sanctified and their sins and iniquiries will he remember no more as he hath said and where remission of sins is there is no more offering for sin but there is boldnesse to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus by the new and living way which he hath consecrated through the vail that is to say his flesh Heb. 10.9 10 to the 21. Then Pallard I asked thee if Iohn when he spoke those words did write those words for a continuance in sin because afterwards he saith My little children these things write I unto you that ye sin not 1 Iohn 2.1 And Iohn said afterwards My little children I have written unto you because your sins are forgiven you for his Names sake and he that abideth in him sinneth not he that sinneth hath neither seen him nor known him as it is written 1 Iohn 2.13 14. 1 Iohn 3.6 7. And as Iohn is speaking of the two seeds and the new birth and the manifestations of the love of Christ and the difference between the godly and the wicked or the children of God and the children of the devill and as he cometh up to speak of higher degrees in the grouth he saith He that is born of God sinneth not neither can he sin because he is born of God and his seed remaineth in him and he cannot sin because his seed remaineth in him and he that is begotten of God keepeth himself and the wicked one toucheth him not as it is written 1 Iohn 3 9. 1 Iohn 5.18 And Iohn said that he that commits sin is of the devill and he that sinned not was of God and thereby the children of God and the children of the divell was to be known asunder for the divels children sinneth and Gods children sinneth not as it is there said and Christ Jesus was made manifest to take away their sins and in him was no sin at all and as he was so was they then in that present world as it is written and left upon record 1 Iohn 3.5 6 7 8 9 10. 1 Iohn 3.14 1 Iohn 2.27 28. 1 Iohn 5.20 1 Iohn 4.16 17. Pallard then thou told of a visible Church and visible Officers and visible Ordinances c. Answ I said unto thee again that the Church was in God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ made all of living Stones elect and precious a spiritual house for God to dwell in by the Spirit and Officers and overseers were made by the holy Ghost and he is not visible for the world seeth him not neither knoweth him as it is written Acts 20.28 1 Pet. 2.5 6. Iohn 14.17 And God is a Spirit and his Church is spirituall and they endured as seeing him who is invisible and they were not come to the Mount which could be touched but they was come to Mount Zion and to the City of the living God and to the heavenly Jerusalem which is invisible and to an innumerable company of Angels and to the Generall Assembly and Church of the first born written in heaven and to God the Judge of all and to the Spirits of just men made perfect and that was not visible but invisible and incomprehensible in the power and life of God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ Heb. 12.22 23. And Christ is the head of this spirituall body his Church which he hath purchased with his blood and he rules in it and orders it by his Spirit and he hath put all things under his feet and given him to be head over all things to the Church which is his body the fulnesse of him that filleth all in all Eph. 1 22 23. And he came and preached peace to them that were a far off and to them that were nigh and he also preached to the Spirits in prison 1 Pet. 3 19. And he is the same yesterday to day and for ever Heb. 13.8 and the word of Faith is preached by the Righteousnesse of Faith in the heart by Christ Jesus there in his Church and Temple which is holy and pure 1 Cor. 3.16 17. Rom 10.6 7 8. For through him we have an accesse to the Father by one Spirit and are baptized by one Spirit into one Body which is Spirituall and we are made to drink into one Spirit where the fruit of the Vine is and the bread of life and the water of life the thirsty souls for to refresh and there is one Lord one Faith one Baptisme one God and Father of us all who are heirs according to the promise and being baptized into Christ we have put on Christ and are fellow-Citizens with the Saints and of the houshold of God and are built upon the foundation of the Prophets and Apostles Christ Jesus being the chief corner Stone in whom all the building fitly framed groweth unto an holy Temple in the Lord in whom also we are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit and God is a Spirit and they that worship him must worship him in Spirit and in Truth and the Church is in God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ Eph. 2.17 1 Cor. 12.12 13. Gal. 3.27 28 29. Eph. 2.18 to the end Iohn 6. Phil. 3.3 Iohn 4.23 24. 1 Thess 1.1 verse Then I asked thee Thomas Pallard water Baptizer if God who was a Spirit was visible for the Church is in him the Pillar and Ground of all Truth and the Word and the Law and the Ordinances and Oracles of God stands in the incomprehensiblenesse of his infinitenesse and his Worship is in the Spirit and power of the holy Ghost in the eternity and the essence of the Scripture or the Divine Epistles written by the Spirit is in the heart tables as it is written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God in the mystery and the Baptisme is in the Spirit and praying and singing and preaching is in the power and pure and eternall wisdome by the Spirit and the watch is in the Spirit and all the officers and overseers in the Church of Christ is in the Spirit made by the power and authority of the holy Ghost in the blood of Christ sealed by the Spirit and annointed and Christ is the chief Shepherd and Bishop of the soul and maketh his Angels Spirits and his Ministers flames of fire and they
in confusion and lyes saying and unsaying Babylonish building up and throwing down and daubing with untempered morter as all in thy nature do neither couldest thou witnesse the gift of the holy Ghost that it were or could be given by any of you water baptizers when it were demanded of thee upon thy examination in that thing at that time as many can witnesse and that in thy conscience shall witnesse the same the Light of Christ Jesus which will condemn thee and all that hate it and are contrary to it for this is the condemnation of the world that light is come into the world and men love darknesse rather than light and the reason is because their deeds are evill as thine is John 3.19 20. And as thou could not witnesse to the washing away of sin by your water Baptisme nor the gift of the holy Ghost to be given by it when it was demanded of thee neither couldest thou witnesse to the eternall judgment and also denyed perfection to be attainable and here thou and all you water baptizers are razed out of the Apostles doctrine and life who said that they would leave the first Principles of the Doctrine of Christ and go on to perfection which you Baptists and thou Pallard great water Baptizer denies and so denyes that which is the whole life of truth and the Apostles and Ministers of Christ and they that had passed thorough the Doctrine of Baptismes and the laying on of hands they passed on to the Resurrection and to eternall judgement which thou Pallard denyes for they came to the Generall Assembly and church of the first born written in heaven and to God the Judge of all and to the Spirits of just men made perfect and to Jesus the Mediator of the New Covenant and they knew the shakings not of the earth onely but of the heavens also that things which could not be shaken might remain which shakings thou knows nothing of nor none in thy nature that denyes perfection and the eternall judgement but we having received a Kingdom which cannot be moved have received grace whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear for our God is a consuming fire the same that theirs was that left the first Principles of the Doctrines of Baptismes and the laying on of hands and the Resurrection of the dead and came to the eternall judgement and to God the judge of all and to the Spirits of just men made perfect and were in the Church of the first born written in heaven and had received the Kingdom and know the consuming fire and dwelt with everlasting burnings and this I witnesse he that can receive it let him Heb. 6.1 2 3. Heb. 12.22 to the end Isaiah 40.28 29 Isaiah 33.14 15 16 c. But to thee Pallard great water Baptizer this is a mistery and to all in thy nature that denyes the eternall judgement and the first Resurrection and the perfection which the Saints witnessed and they were risen with Christ and were made to sit together with him in heavenly places and said to others in their grouh If ye he risen with Christ set your affections on things which are above and not on things which are on the earth and some said that their conversation were in heaven and others knew that so many of them as were Baptized into Christ were baptized into his death that like as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father even so they also should walk in newnesse of life c. Rom. 6.3 4 5 6. Eph. 2.4 5 6. Col. 3.1 2. Phil. 3.20 21. Rev. 20.6 Rev. 21.1 2 3. to the 9. But thou and you water baptizers are yet in the oldnesse of the Letter and not in the baptisme of sufferings nor in the new life nor knowes nothing of the eternall Judgement nor of the Resurrection nor perfection nor the New Covenant nor the Seal thereof that sayes the Bible is a History and the Spirit and the Letter are inseparable as thou Pallard great waterman did and thou and the other that were with thee at that time impudently did lye before the people and said Christ had not judgement committed to him whilost he were in the world and Christ himself said for that cause was he come into the world as I then told thee and as thou mayest see in John 9.39 And where he said to the Jews that they judged him after the flesh but he judged no man after the flesh but he judged righteously and with righteous judgement and his judgement was true for he and his Father was one as he there said and he was one that bore witnesse of himself and the Father that sent him bare witness with him and Christ there had judgment with the Father and all judgment he said were committed to him and he told them the envious Jews that they were of their father the devill and his works they would do and he told them there was no truth in them for their father the devill had not abode in the Truth and they was of him and he told them he knew that they had not the love of God in them and his judgement was true and he called them serpents and vipers and said How-should they escape the damnation of hell and he pronounced woes to Pharisees and Hypocrites then such as had a form from the Letter but was separated from the Spirit and life of what they did professe and from Christ and the new Covenant and were in the Letter without the Spirit as you Baptizers are and as thou Pallard art and all that are in their nature and such as say the Bible is a History and the Spirit and the Letter is inseparable and that sayes Christ had not judgement committed to him whilest he were in the world as you Baptists and thou Pallard did here I charge thee in the presence of the Lord and all in thy nature to be false accusers of Christ and lyers and enemies of his truth as the envious Jews was as thou Pallard art and all you who are in their nature and as you may read John 8.44 John 5.39 40 41 c. Mat. 23.33 Thou may well take upon thee Pallard to lye of me and the truth that would so impudently lye of Christ that said he had not judgement committed to him nor given him whilst he was in the world when he said that for judgment he was come into the world as I then told thee And secondly he said that he had life in himself as the Father had and he had authority given him to execute judgement as it is written and as he was come for Judgement into the world and had authority given him to execute it So thirdly he had power to quicken whom he would as well as the Father and he said that the Father had committed all judgement unto him John 9.39 John 5.21 to the 28. And thou that said the Bible was a History and yet