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he_o p._n 125._o 125._o whereas_o the_o replyer_n do_v protest_v that_o he_o never_o yet_o read_v or_o so_o much_o as_o see_v carliles_n book_n but_o what_o will_v not_o evil_a will_v imagine_v 9_o untruth_n untruth_n that_o bellarmine_n agree_v with_o all_o antiquity_n in_o take_v the_o hebrew_n and_o greek_a word_n sheol_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o they_o signify_v only_a soul_n and_o hell_n 2._o b._n p._n 119._o 119._o here_o be_v three_o notable_a untruth_n for_o neither_o antiquity_n nor_o yet_o bellarmine_n nor_o any_o learned_a interpreter_n ever_o take_v these_o two_o word_n sheol_n and_o hade_n to_o signify_v the_o soul_n and_o hell_n for_o neither_o of_o they_o be_v ever_o take_v by_o any_o to_o signify_v the_o soul_n second_o not_o all_o the_o ancient_a interpreter_n take_v sheol_n symbolum_n translate_v infernus_fw-la only_o to_o signify_v hell_n for_o cyprian_a upon_o the_o creed_n which_o be_v also_o ascribe_v to_o ruffinus_n do_v take_v it_o for_o the_o 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die_v in_o body_n yet_o his_o soul_n perish_v not_o ut_fw-la vita_fw-la perderet_fw-la vitam_fw-la that_o our_o life_n shall_v lose_v life_n c._n 4._o in_o init_fw-la by_o occasion_n of_o which_o question_n he_o fall_v also_o into_o that_o other_o point_n concern_v the_o death_n of_o christ_n soul_n 2._o he_o say_v that_o augustine_n take_v this_o for_o grant_v that_o the_o promise_v make_v to_o the_o thief_n be_v the_o voice_n of_o christ_n godhead_n whereas_o augustine_n only_o propound_v it_o by_o way_n of_o objection_n sed_fw-la dicet_fw-la aliquis_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o some_o one_o will_v say_v mistake_v we_o believe_v this_o be_v the_o voice_n of_o the_o deity_n not_o of_o the_o soul_n of_o christ_n etc._n etc._n and_o afterward_o he_o rather_o reason_v against_o that_o objection_n then_o yield_v to_o it_o &_o quid_fw-la in_o eo_fw-la cui_fw-la promittebat_fw-la accipimus_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o what_o do_v we_o take_v in_o he_o to_o who_o the_o promise_n be_v make_v and_o 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not_o to_o have_v be_v with_o they_o which_o be_v at_o rest_n in_o abraham_n bosom_n where_o if_o he_o be_v that_o be_v the_o paradise_n which_o he_o vouchsafe_v to_o promise_v the_o thief_n here_o he_o resolve_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o christ_n go_v to_o the_o paradise_n promise_v to_o the_o thief_n 7._o so_o augustine_n be_v erroneous_o cite_v for_o twice_o he_o quote_v tract_n 91._o in_o joh._n 17._o 3._o b._n p._n 8._o and_o 16._o whereas_o the_o place_n be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o 111._o tract_n in_o joh._n 17._o beside_o he_o will_v make_v the_o reader_n believe_v that_o augustine_n expound_v this_o glory_n 8._o which_o christ_n speak_v of_o joh._n 17._o only_a of_o the_o glory_n of_o his_o godhead_n 16._o and_o that_o other_o speech_n where_o i_o be_o etc._n etc._n to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o presence_n of_o his_o godhead_n cont._n in_o the_o very_a same_o tractat_fw-la 111._o augustine_n thus_o expound_v those_o word_n i_o will_v that_o where_o i_o be_o they_o may_v be_v with_o i_o quantum_fw-la attinet_fw-la ad_fw-la creaturam_fw-la etc._n etc._n concern_v that_o creature_n wherein_o he_o be_v make_v of_o the_o seed_n of_o david_n after_o the_o flesh_n he_o be_v not_o yet_o himself_o where_o he_o be_v to_o be_v but_o in_o that_o sense_n he_o may_v say_v where_o i_o be_o as_o we_o may_v understand_v that_o he_o shall_v quick_o ascend_v into_o heaven_n that_o he_o say_v he_o be_v there_o already_o where_o he_o be_v present_o to_o be_v in_o the_o same_o tractate_n he_o also_o thus_o expound_v the_o glory_n etiamsi_fw-la eam_fw-la dici_fw-la hoc_fw-la loco_fw-la intelligamus_fw-la etc._n etc._n though_o we_o understand_v that_o glory_n to_o be_v here_o speak_v of_o not_o which_o the_o father_n give_v unto_o his_o son_n be_v equal_a in_o beget_v he_o but_o which_o he_o give_v unto_o he_o be_v make_v the_o son_n of_o man_n after_o the_o death_n of_o the_o cross_n he_o understandeth_v it_o as_o well_o of_o the_o glory_n give_v unto_o he_o as_o man_n as_o that_o due_a unto_o he_o as_o god_n but_o more_o evident_o augustine_n show_v his_o mind_n touch_v these_o point_n in_o the_o former_a tractate_v upon_o this_o chapter_n as_o tract_n 104._o haec_fw-la est_fw-la glorificatio_fw-la etc._n etc._n this_o be_v the_o glorify_v of_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n which_o take_v beginning_n from_o his_o resurrection_n tract_n 105._o that_o the_o son_n be_v glorify_v of_o the_o father_n according_a to_o the_o form_n of_o a_o servant_n who_o the_o father_n raise_v up_o be_v dead_a confuter_n and_o place_v at_o his_o right_a hand_n the_o thing_n itself_o show_v and_o no_o christian_a doubt_v and_o if_o the_o confuter_n doubt_v hereof_o in_o augustin_n opinion_n he_o be_v no_o christian._n and_o upon_o those_o word_n glorify_v i_o with_o the_o glory_n etc._n etc._n which_o i_o have_v etc._n etc._n he_o write_v thus_o sicut_fw-la tunc_fw-la praedestinatione_fw-la etc._n etc._n as_o then_o in_o predestination_n so_o now_o in_o perfection_n do_v in_o the_o world_n what_o be_v with_o thou_o before_o the_o world_n do_v in_o time_n that_o which_o thou_o appoint_v before_o all_o time_n thus_o augustine_n apparent_o understand_v the_o glory_n which_o be_v give_v unto_o christ_n as_o man_n and_o how_o christ_n our_o bless_a saviour_n pray_v unto_o his_o father_n he_o thus_o also_o show_v tract_n 104._o poterat_fw-la dominus_fw-la noster_fw-la etc._n etc._n our_o lord_n the_o only_o beget_v and_o coeternal_a to_o the_o father_n may_v in_o the_o form_n and_o by_o the_o form_n of_o a_o servant_n if_o it_o have_v be_v needful_a have_v pray_v in_o silence_n but_o he_o will_v so_o exhibit_v himself_o to_o his_o father_n a_o prayer_n for_o we_o as_o that_o he_o remember_v himself_o to_o be_v our_o teacher_n and_o again_o in_o another_o place_n oravit_fw-la
18._o the_o figure_n 2._o might_n easy_o be_v mistake_v for_o 3._o 17._o christ_n by_o noah_n preach_v the_o one_o as_o the_o author_n the_o other_o as_o the_o minister_n so_o both_o may_v well_o stand_v together_o s._n peter_n text_n that_o speak_v of_o christ_n and_o the_o interpretation_n that_o apply_v it_o to_o noah_n if_o any_o make_v the_o apostle_n a_o liar_n it_o be_v himself_o that_o corrupt_v his_o sense_n by_o a_o false_a interpretation_n and_o make_v he_o to_o speak_v that_o which_o he_o never_o intend_v 18._o though_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n unto_o unbeliever_n be_v through_o the_o hardness_n of_o their_o heart_n the_o savour_n of_o death_n unto_o death_n yet_o the_o principal_a and_o only_a end_n in_o respect_n of_o god_n be_v the_o comfort_n and_o conversion_n of_o man_n the_o harden_v of_o the_o heart_n be_v effect_v accidental_o by_o the_o word_n and_o be_v not_o the_o proper_a end_n thereof_o this_o be_v evident_a by_o that_o pprophecy_n of_o isai_n of_o christ_n 1._o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n be_v upon_o i_o etc._n etc._n he_o have_v send_v i_o to_o preach_v good_a tiding_n to_o the_o poor_a 99_o and_o this_o be_v augustine_n reason_n that_o if_o there_o be_v preach_v in_o hell_n some_o may_v be_v convert_v and_o believe_v in_o hell_n to_o say_v therefore_o to_o what_o purpose_n shall_v christ_n be_v think_v to_o preach_v to_o the_o spirit_n in_o hell_n etc._n etc._n then_o for_o their_o comfort_n and_o deliverance_n be_v no_o contradict_v of_o the_o scripture_n but_o a_o manifest_v of_o his_o ignorance_n that_o know_v it_o not_o 19_o and_o be_v it_o not_o sufficient_a if_o one_o evangelist_n have_v those_o word_n and_o be_v it_o not_o lawful_a what_o be_v want_v in_o one_o to_o supply_v out_o of_o a_o other_o but_o it_o can_v have_v no_o excuse_n to_o clip_v the_o evangelist_n word_n as_o he_o do_v whatsoever_o be_v give_v unto_o you_o at_o the_o same_o time_n that_o speak_v say_v saint_n mark_n but_o he_o cit_v the_o place_n thus_o that_o which_o shall_v be_v give_v you_o 105._o that_o speak_v 20._o and_o be_v he_o so_o captious_a that_o he_o can_v not_o or_o will_v not_o see_v that_o the_o omission_n of_o this_o word_n be_v be_v a_o mere_a oversight_n in_o the_o setter_n and_o therefore_o the_o replyer_n have_v amend_v it_o among_o the_o errata_fw-la before_o limbomastix_n and_o this_o poore-blinde_a pryer_n may_v have_v observe_v the_o like_a escape_n in_o his_o own_o blot_a line_n where_o he_o thus_o write_v where_o the_o soul_n of_o sinner_n wont_a to_o be_v torture_v for_o be_v wont_a 35._o etc._n etc._n 21._o this_o be_v a_o small_a exception_n to_o the_o geneva_n translation_n to_o take_v the_o present_a tense_n for_o the_o preterperfect_a especial_o see_v the_o apostle_n so_o read_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ascend_a eph._n 4._o 8._o and_o the_o same_o tense_n with_o the_o hebrew_n serve_v both_o for_o the_o present_a and_o time_n past_a as_o psal._n 68_o 19_o from_o whence_o s._n paul_n borrow_v that_o testimony_n 22._o these_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v english_v in_o the_o translation_n but_o the_o word_n in_o greek_a it_o be_v not_o pertinent_a to_o repeat_v because_o all_o the_o force_n lie_v in_o the_o other_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 23._o 1._o the_o replyer_n cite_v those_o word_n of_o the_o apostle_n to_o prove_v the_o inward_a affliction_n have_v no_o cause_n to_o repeat_v the_o rest_n which_o speak_v of_o his_o glory_v and_o rejoice_v in_o christ_n but_o only_o so_o much_o as_o be_v to_o the_o purpose_n 2._o he_o refuse_v not_o chrysostoms_n exposition_n though_o by_o chrysost_n he_o much_o misalleadged_n neither_o do_v it_o make_v against_o he_o for_o that_o inward_a resolution_n and_o preparation_n of_o the_o mind_n daily_o be_v in_o expectation_n of_o death_n be_v it_o not_o a_o inward_a affliction_n and_o temptation_n to_o suffer_v death_n i_o hope_v he_o will_v not_o deny_v to_o be_v a_o affliction_n then_o the_o daily_o expectation_n of_o death_n be_v inward_a must_v be_v a_o inward_a affliction_n 3._o neither_o be_v those_o word_n cite_v to_o prove_v that_o saint_n paul_n die_v the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n but_o for_o the_o similitude_n of_o the_o phrase_n he_o may_v elsewhere_o have_v further_o see_v the_o replyer_n meaning_n 978._o express_v in_o this_o manner_n as_o the_o body_n be_v not_o say_v only_o to_o die_v when_o the_o soul_n depart_v from_o it_o but_o when_o it_o be_v press_v with_o deep_a and_o dangerous_a affliction_n which_o threaten_v death_n as_o paul_n say_v i_o die_v daily_o so_o the_o soul_n may_v be_v say_v after_o a_o sort_n to_o die_v not_o only_a when_o it_o be_v final_o separate_v from_o god_n but_o perplex_v with_o the_o horror_n and_o feel_n of_o god_n wrath_n 4._o it_o follow_v not_o because_o paul_n have_v inward_a joy_n and_o consolation_n therefore_o he_o have_v not_o inward_a affliction_n for_o speak_v of_o terror_n within_o 6._o he_o add_v god_n which_o comfort_v the_o abject_a 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