them publicans and harlots haue beene saued nether if they be knowne make they a man better Finally they vse to vnderstand the Saintes departed this life by this terme The dead For so doth the Apologie of the Confession of Auspurg c. de Inuocat Sanctorum The confession of Saxonie c. 21. Melancthon in locis c. de Sacramentis c. de Caeremonijs c. de scandalo c. de libertate Whitaker l. 9. cont Dureum sect 36. Wherevpon Kemnitius 3. parte Examinis p. 228. saieth that the Saintes departed are vsually termed The dead CONFERENCE OF THE FORESAIED WORDS Scripture expressely saieth that the soule cannot be killed and that it returneth to God The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that the soule dieth that it is a Popes decree that the soule dieth not that it is a monstruous thing to say that it is immortall they adde also that it is by transfusion that after death it feeleth nothing that all or most infantes perish as beasts that the knowledge of the state of soules after this death is not necessarie to saluation nor maketh a man the better ART II. WHETHER MANS SOVLE BE the forme of his bodie SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Gen. 2. v. 7. Our Lord God formed man of the styme of the Soule forme of the bodie earth and breathed into his face the breath of life and man became a liuing soule CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME S. Thomas 1. parte q. 76. art 4. A reasonable soule is vnited to the bodie as a substantiall forme PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther cited in the former article I giue leaue that the Not substantiall forme of the bodie Pope make articles of faith to his followers Such are That the soule is a substantiall forme of the bodie In psal 22. to 3. f. 348. It is not determined according to the spirit of trueth nor according So also Farellus to the authoritie of Scriptures but by the Popes reed according to vaine traditions of men That the essence of God is nether generated nor generateth That the soule is a substantiall forme of the bodie That bread and wine are trāssubstantiated on the altar that one kinde is to be giuen to lay men for the whole Sacrament and like monsters Polanus in Sylloge Thesium parte 2. p. 518. Mans soule is No forme of the bodie no forme of the bodie against Bellarmin Bucanus Instit loco 8. p. 89. The soule is in one onely mēber Not in euerie member of the bodie and place of the bodie THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saith that the soule was infused of God into man and that by it he was made a liuing creature The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that mans soule is no forme of the bodie that it is monstrous to say that it is the forme of the bodie that it is in one onely parte and place of the bodie and not in the whole bodie ART III. WHETHER THERE BE ANIE resurrection of the dead SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. 1. Cor. 15. v. 16. For if the dead rise not againe nether is Christ The dead shall rise risen againe And if Christ be not risen againe vaine is your faith 1. Thessalon 4. v. 14. For if we beleiue that Iesus died and rose againe so also God them that haue slept by Iesus will bring with him And the same is most plainely taught in innumerable places CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Catechismus ad Parochos in Exposit Symboli As we beleiue that manie haue beene raised from death so we must beleiue that all shal be raised to life PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther l. de seruo arbit to 2. fol. 442. Behould experience what the most excellent witts amongst the Gentils thought of the life to come and the resurrection How much more excellent they were of wit did they not the more thinke the life to come and resurrection to be ridiculous Finally to this day the most Luther not free from denying the resurrection of the dead by how much they are of greater wit and learning do they not the more laughe at that article and accoūt it afable and that opēly And I would to God thoum y Erasmus and I were free from this leauen So rare is there anie faithfull soule touching this article Brentius apud Reginaldum cited in the first article Yea such wordes fall from diuers Protestants by which they signifie No resurrection of the dead that they beleiue not the resurrection of the dead as well when there are drunken as when they are sober in their familiar talkes Vorstius in Apologetica resp ad Homium p. 41. writeth thus Let them see who will enquire these things more curiously what amongst our men Caluin himselfe sometimes thought of this matter in his epistles p. 85. Where Farellus plainely enough Caluin denied the resurrection of the flesh telleth that he not onely doubted of the resurrection of this flesh but thought plaine contrarie from others at that time And neuerthelesse none accursed him therefore of heresie Yea among the Lutherans Iames Schegkius in Antisimonic sect 9. p. 420. Schegkius denied the resurrection of these bodies Openly denied that the same bodies should rise hereafter And yet he was curteously excused of his parteners and it no where appeareth that he was for that condemned of heresie ether of his owne men or of ours Caluin Epistola 104. thus writeth to Laelius Sozinus Sozinus denied the resurrection of the flesh whome Camerarius in vita Melancthonis much commendeth I see that you are not satisfied about the resurrection of the flesh Farellus who was the first Minister of Geneua and whome Caluin and Beza highly cōmend and his picture is put amongst the worthies of the new reformers denied the resurrection of this flesh For thus writeth Caluin to him as reporteth M. Reinalds in Caluinoturcismo l. 3. c. 22. It is no meruaile that the resurrection of this flesh seemeth a Nether Caluin maruaileth at it thing incredible to thee Thou thinkes it sufficeth if thou beleiuest that sometime we shall haue new bodies Behould the first Apostle of Geneua thought the resurrection of this flesh a thing incredible nether that seemed anie meruaill to his Coapostle Caluin Besides all they who as we rehearsed cap. 3. artic 20. denie that Christs blood rose againe denie that there was a perfect resurrection of Christ of whome his blood was a parte and consequently they must denie that the blood of other men shal rise againe and so there shall not be a perfect resurrection of men Moreouer Caluin in 4 c. 1. § 27. saieth that those Corinthians who denied the resurrection were not excluded from Gods mercie Sadeel and Theses Posnan c. 12. pag. 806. Protestants account deniers of the resurrection to be members of the Church and children of God and faithfull that they kept the name of a true Chruch which also saieth Riuet tract 1. sect 39. Beza 2 parte respons ad Acta Montisbel pa. 253.
Chiefe men of the people And the same saieth Iuel lib. cit p. 6. c. 11. sect 4. and Hunnius in Colloq Ratisbon sess 2. Where he addeth that Moyses did sacrifice as a Prophet of God and not as a Preist Luther to 1. f. 398. writeth in this sorte Paul in this place Faith 1. Guift of God 1. Cor. 13. If I had all c. taketh faith for the guift of the holie Ghost Et fol. 397. The sense of these words Redeeme thy Redeeme 1. Beleiue leaue apprehend sinnes c. Dan. is to beleiue that God is angrie with sinne and is pleased with the iust and shew this faith to be true by workes But Melacthon thus expoundeth these words leaue giue ouer sinning Et Martyr ibid. hom 21. Apprehend the Messias by faith Illyricus in Math. 7. v. 82. To performe the words of Christ Performe 1. Beleiue is to embrace him truely and from the heart and secondly to relie vpon his doctrine well vnderstood Bullinger Dec. 3. sermon 9. writeth that when S. Iames saieth a man is iustified by Workes 1. Faith workes he meaneth By faith fruitfull of good workes Et l. de Orig. Error c. 18. These sentences I will protect this cittie for my selfe and for my seruant Dauid And I will protect this cittie for my selfe and for promise made to Dauid are all one Sadeel Dauid 1. Promise to Dauid or Christ Sorrow Pietie ◠Faith ad Art 57. expoundeth For Dauid that is For Christ Hunnius tract de Iustif p. 145. saieth that by the word Sorrow in that 2. Cor. 7. Sorrow according to God c. and also by the word Pietie in that 1. Timot. 4. Pietie hath promises is vnderstood Faith But most of all this their manner of expounding by disparate or quite different things appeareth in their expounding the words of Christ his soules descent into hell where by Soule they vnderstand Dead bodie or Carcasse by Descended Suffered and by Hell Graue Death or Paines of hell and the like For thus Zuinglius in Hofmeister in Art Descended 1. Redeemed 3. Confess Aug. He descended into hell that is his death re-redeemed those which were in hell OEcolampadius ib. It is an Descended 1. Buried exposition of that He was buried Bucer in Math. 27. In the 2. of the Acts for the same is put that his soule is not forsaken in hell and the holie did not see the graue of corruption to wit for that which is Not to be forsaken in death What other thing is it here to descēd to hell then the bodie to be buried vnder earth In this sorce then descended life or a liuelie bodie into hell that is being truely dead was put in the graue Agayne That article of the Symbol He descended into hell is an explication of that which went before He was dead and burried P Martyr in locis Class 2. p. 428. He descended into hell signifieth nothing els Descended 1. In estate of the dead Descended 1. Suffered death Descended 1. Laied in the the graue Soule 1. Carcasse Hell 1. Graue but that he was in the very same estate in which other soules are that haue departed from their bodies Caluin 2. Instit c. 16. ser 10. If he be saied to haue descended into hell no meruaile seing he suffered that death wich by Gods wrath is inflicted vpon the wicked Beza in Act. 2. v. 27. To descend to hell properly signifieth to be laied in the graue Et ib. edit An. 1565. In my former edition I rightly translated it Thou shalt not forsake my carcasse in the graue In Defens cont Castel vol. 1. Theol. pag. 460. In the text My soule I translated my carcasse Et p. seq I still keepe the same sense Serranus cont Hayum part 3. p. 520. spendeth manie words to proue that by Soule Act. 2. v. 27. is not meat Soule but a Deade mā or carcasse and addeth Flesh. 1. Soule No man can doubt but by the word flesh is meat Soule So that by Soule shall not be meant Soule but Carcasse and agayne by Flesh not flesh but soule Vrsinus in Carechism q. 44. In this article Hell is taken for great affliction Whitaker l. 8. cōt Dur. sect 7. That the Prophet saieth Thou shalt not forsake my soule in hell is as much as if he had saied Thou shalt not forsake me lying in the graue Et Sect. 22. It is manifest that it is Descended 1. Buried the same sense in both words that to be buried is to descēd to hell and that to descend to hell is to be buried Perkins in Explic. Symboli tom 1. col 680. He descended into hell that is being dead and buried was detained captiue in the graue and kept of death for three dayes Et col 676. Others expound it thus He felt and bore the torments and anguishes of hell This saieth he is a good and true exposition Et in Serie Causarum c. 18. The descent into hell is the ignominious dominion of death ouer him being buried Daneus Contr. 2. p. 161. By the name of the death Death 1. torments of soule of Christ are meant the torments of soule and the curse of God which is felt in the mynd P. 169. It is apparent out of the Acts 2. that the Greek word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is put for graue of the bodie Et pag. 172. he saieth Of the descent of Christ to hell that is of the sorrow in soule suffered by Christ Tilenus in Syntagm c. 6. vnderstandeth by the descent to hell the dominion of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which it obtained by thy continuate death of Christ oppressed and shut vp in a graue sealed and kept with souldiors for three dayes together Bucanus in loco 25. By Christs descent into hell are meant those great torments of mynd which he sustained in his agonie and on the crosse Polanus in Syntagm l. 6. c. 21. We declare that the descent of Christ into hell is his voluntarie demission of himselfe to abide and wrastle out the paines of hell Finally Vorstins in Antibel pag 40. Writeth thus All Protetestants do not wholy agree about the true sense of this article whilest some accommodate this phrase properly to the death and burriall of Christ as an explication thereof others metaphorically to the inward griefs of the mynd or infernall torments which Christ suffered at the time of his death or passion and others metonymically or effectiuely by a kinde of prosopopeia to the fruite of the death and passion of Christ exhibited vnto vs miserable and damned Et p. 41. We say that speach Descend to hell most truely doth signifie in Scripture nothing els thē simply to dye or to brought into the state of the dead and so buried Et p. 42. The sense of those words Thou shalt not leaue my soule in hell may most fitly be expressed thus Thou shalt not leaue my life in death or thou shalt not leaue me in the
be some guilt so that it need first to be purged And the contrarie opinion is to be held for heresie PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Scultet in 1. parte Medullae in Tertulliano c. 42. As that The soules not punished before the bodie positiō of his is new so also is it false That the soules suffer in hell before the bodies Confession of Wittemberg cap. de Memoria defunctorum Faith requireth of vs to beleiue that the dead are not nothing but truely liue before God the godlie happily in Christ and the imperious in horrible expectation of the reuelation of Gods iudgment Confessio Belgica art 12. saieth thus of the Diuels Reprobates expect their torments They dayly expect the horrible torments of their wicked deeds Caluin 3. Institut cap. 25. § 6. There is no doubt but that the same lot befalleth to the reprobates which Iude assigneth to the Diuels to the tyed bound in chaines till they be drawne to the punishment to which they are adiudged In 2. Petri 2. vers 4. Expect their reuenge The reprobates suffer horrible torment of the reuenge prepared for them Luther in 25. Genes to 6. fol. 321. I cannot affirme whether Vncertaine whether wicked soules be now tormented the soules of the wicked be tormented streight after death 322. We know not whether damnatiō begin streight after death Sermone de Diuite Lazaro tom 7. fol. 268. I dare not affirme that Diues is now vexed with these torments In cap. 2. Ionae to 4. f. 418. I am not very certaine what hell is before the last day And apud Schioppium lib. cit ca. 3. Nether hath the The place of the dead hath no torments place of the dead anie torments THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that the Sodomites suffer the paine of euerlasting fire that Diues is buried in hell is in torments and tormented with fire that Dathan and Abiron descended quicke into hell The same say Catholiks Protestāts say that they dare not affirme that the soules of the wicked are tormented streight after their death yea they teach that it is false that soules are punished in hell before the bodies ART VII WHETHER HELL BE anie place SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Luke 16. vers 22. And the rich man also died and he was Hell is a place of torments buried in hell And v. 28. Lest they also come into this place of torments CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm. l. 2. de Purgatorio c. 6. Hell is a place of punishment PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther Serm. de Diuite Lazaro tom 7. fol. 267. Hell Hell nothing but consciēce No corporall place can be nothing els but a conscience void of faith and fraught with sinne Postilla in Dom. 2. post Trinitatem fol. 286. True hell shall begin at the latter day The place where a soule may be and yet want quiet can not be a corporall place Hell can be nought els but an emptie faith lesse sinfull and wicked conscience Perkins in Apocalips 2. to 2. col 90. We must not imagin No certaine place that hell is anie certaine definite and corporall place Brentius apud Hospin parte 2. Histor fol. 308. I laugh There is no locall hell at your ould wiues dotages of a corporall and locall heauē or hell Fol. 331. A locall hell is a fiction Schlusselburg lib. 1. Theol. Caluin art 27. writeth that the Catechisme of Heidelburg calleth in doubt whether there be No such appointed place anie hell indeed and an appointed place where the wicked and damned after this life are to be punished with eternall paines together with the wicked spirits And that Bucer vpon S. Ihon openly affirmeth this Caluin 2. Instit c. 16. § 9. To shut vp the soules of the dead in prison is childish Tilenus in Syntagmate cap. 6. We condemne the Papists who out of the dreame of their druncken braine do put the place of the damned in the middest of the earth THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that hell is a place of torments The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that hell is no place no corporall place no prison that it is nothing but a wicked conscience that it shall begine at a the latter day which are so repugnant to Scripture as some Protestants confesse it See lib. 2. c. 30. ART VIII WHETHER THE FIRE OF hell be true fire SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Mathew 25. vers 41. Get ye from me you cursed into fire True fire in hell euerlasting Iude. v. 7. cit Sustaining the paine of eternall fire CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME S. Thomas Supplement q. 70. art 3. The fire of hell is not imaginarie or metaphoricall fire but true corporall fire PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Perkins in Apoc. 2. to 2. col 90. We must not imagin that No corporall fire the torments of hell are corporall but rather spirituall seing they are an apprehension or feeling of the wrath of God and of his reuenge Caluin in Math. 3. v. 12. Touching euerlasting fire we may Metaphoricall fire gather that it is a metaphoricall speach Daneus Controu 4. cap. 11. They feigne that the soules of mē and Diuels are tormented in hell with true and corporall fire Controu 6. pag. 1181. It is impossible that the soules of men separated from their bodies should be tormented with anie corporall fire Vorstius in Antibellarm p. 269. It implieth contradiction that corporall fire should worke vpon a mere spirit as mans soule is saied to be Tilenus in Syntagmate cap. 68. There is no cause why we should say that in hell is corporall fire The same saieth Polanus in Sylloge thesium parte 2. p. 518. and Lobechius disput 6. 19. THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that the fire of hell is fire The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that it is not true or materiall fire but metaphoricall that soules and mere spirits cannot be tormented with corporall fire THE SVMME OF THIS CHAPTER OF EVERLASting life and death What we haue rehearsed in this chapter clearely proueth that Protestants teach farre otherwise of euerlasting saluation and damnation then Scripture doth For Scripture and Catholiks with it teacheth that eternall saluation is a reward a crowne of iustice and cometh not of faith onely that the soules of the reprobates do now suffer the paines of hell that hell is a true place and that the fire of hell is true fire All which Protestants denie The same also proue that Protestants steale from eternall saluation the nature of a reward and crowne of iustice and dependencie of good workes and steale from hell the nature of a place and true fire CHAPTER XVIII OF GODS LAVV. ART I. WHETHER GODS LAW BE possible SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. EZECHIEL 36. v. 27. And I will put my spirit in God will make vs to keepe his law the middest of you and I will make that you walke in my precepts and keepe my iudgments and doe
to God CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME S. Thomas 2. 2. q. 164. art 1. The soule of man is immortall beasts soules are mortall Et 1. parte q. 118. art 2. It is heresie to say that a reasonable soule is transfused with the seed PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther in Assert art 27. to 2. f. 107. I giue leaue that the Pope make articles of faith to his followers Such as are That bread and wine are transsubstantiated in the Sacrament That the soule is the substantiall forme of mans bodie That he is Emperour of the world and king of heauē and an earthlie God That the soule is immortall and all those infinit monsters in the Romish The soule is mortall dūghill of Decrees that such as his faith is such be his Ghospell such his faithfull such his Church and like lippes like lettuce and the pot may haue a fit couer And in the Margent Articles made of the Pope Zuinglius l. de Religione c. de Clauibus to 2. f. 187. But they do not so agree amongst themselues where the keyes were giuen that it is maruaile why the Pope of Rome seing he alone can iudge the Scripture as these men dreame hath not pronoūced by some lawe where they were giuen lest there should be so great dissension in a matter of so great moment or rather of profit For The soule dieth with the bodie he might easily for he hath decreed that soules do not die when the bodie dieth Vorstius in Antibellarm p. 543. There wāt not some among Infants perish like beasts Christiās who thinke that ether all Infants or some are quite extinguished by death as beasts are And he himselfe insinuateth that mans soule is not a pure spirit as appeareth by words cited in an other place Caluin in Explic. perfidiae Gentilis p. 677. Some Protestants did say that there is no shorter way to abolish the protection of Saintes superstitious praier for the dead the inuention of Purgatorie and such like then if we would beleiue death to be the destruction of the soule Soules perish Brentius homilia 35. in c. 20. Lucae apud Reginaldum l. 4. Caluinoturcismi cap. 5. Albeit there be no publike profession among vs that the soule perisheth with the bodie and that there is no resurrection of the dead yet that most vncleane and most profane life which the greatest parte of men follow clearely sheweth that in their mynd they thinke that there is no life after this life or at least that they doubt of the life to come No life after this Men are begotten euen according to the soule Besides they teach that mans soule is transfused with the seede Bergenses apud Hospin in Concordia discordi f. 104. Write that a mā is naturally begotten of his father and mother both according to bodie and soule Luther disput 2. to 2. fol. 500. Who shall thinke that the soule is by transfusion seemeth not to thinke amisse from the Scripture Et fol. 501. That is nothing which is saied A reasonable soule is infused whilest it is created and created it is infused Et Vorstius in Antibellarm p. 530. Luther thought that the soule was by transfusion Hutterus in Analysi Confess Augustanae art 2. p. 157. We Our Soules are not created but transfused resolue that that opinion seemeth more probable to vs which thinketh that soules are not infused of God but are propagated from parents to children by transfusion Peucerus apud Schlusselburg l. 2. Theol. Caluin art 6. I conclude that soules rise by transfusion Schlusselburg to 2. Catal. Haeret. p. 195. It appeareth sufficiently in the writings of Luther and Melancthon that they incline to this opinion which saieth that soules are by transfusion and they shew great arguments out of the Scripture Reineccius to 3. Armaturae cap. 6. We gather that soules are together with the bodies propagated from the parents into the children and not made of the seed as out of matter but of the soule of the parents as one candle is lightned of an other and that as the bodie so the soule is in the seed not actually but in power which being dead is raised vp by Gods gouernment But to teach that mans soules is by transfusion is in effect The Soule being dead it raised and deed to say it is mortall as the Protestants themselues confesse Pareus l. 4. de Amiss Grat. c. 11. Whether we say that soules are sowed with the bodies or immediatly transfused out of other soules as one light is kindled of an other we cannot defend the immortalitie of the soule any more Beza in Rom. 5. v. 12. Which opinion can no way be mantained but that the substance of mans soule must be diuisible and consequently corruptible Moreouer they teach that mans soule after his death sleepeth and feeleth nothing Luther in 2. Ionae to 4. f. 417. Scripture teacheth that the dead sleepe I thinke that they are so drowned with a meruailous The Soules sleepe and feele nothing and vnspeakable sleepe as they feele or see lesse then they that otherwise sleepe and when they shal be raised they shall not know where they haue beene or how they were sodainlie borne a new Ib. in c. 9. Eccles f. 36. Salomon seemeth to thinke that the dead sleepe so as they know nothing at all He described the dead like to sensles carcases Et f. 37. An other place that the dead feele nothing Salomon thought that the dead did wholy sleepe and feele nothing at all In cap. 25. Gen. to 6 f. 722. There is a great difference betwene the Saintes sleeping and Christ raigning they sleepe and know not what is done Caluin in Psychopanychia p. 388. I know manie good men into whose mynd some thing was instilled of this sleepe of the soules ether through to much readinesse to beleiue or through ignorance of Scriptures whereby they were not sufficiently instructed at the time for to resist whome I would not offend if I may Sleidan l. 9. Histor Luther teacheth out of Scripture that the soules of the dead do rest and expect the latter day of iudgment and he addeth that out of this Luther ouerthrew purgatorie But to teach that the soules haue no feeling is as much as to say that they are perished according to the verdict of the Protestants themselues For thus Beza epistola 82. To depriue the soule of motion and sense is alone as to kill the soule The same saieth Caluin lib. cit p. 391. Daneus Contr. 2. p. 160. Zuinglius in Exposit fidei tom 2. fol. 559. and in elencho fol. 37. Castalio also apud Bezam de puniendis Haereticis whose learning and honestie D. Humfrey ad Ration 1. Campiani saieth he well knew writeth thus Men dispute of the Trinitie of Predestination of free will of God of Angels of the state of soules after this life and of other such matters which nether are so necessarie to obtaine saluation by faith because without knowledge of
A CONFERENCE OF THE CATHOLIKE AND PROTESTANTE DOCTRINE WITH THE EXPRESSE WORDS OF HOLIE SCRIPTVRE WHICH IS THE SECOND PARTE OF THE Prudentiall Balance of Religion VVHEREIN IS CLEARELY SHEWED THAT IN MORE then 260. points of controuersie Catholiks agree with the holie Scripture both in words and sense and Protestants disagree in both and depraue both the sayings words and sense of Scripture WRITTEN FIRST IN LATIN BVT NOW AVGmented and translated into English ACTS IV. VERSE XVII IF IT BE IVST IN THE SIGHT OF GOD TO heare you rather then God iudge yee S. Athanasius Apol. de Fuga WHAT MVST WE STICK TO TO GODS words or these mens Fables AT DOWAY By the widdowe of MARKE WYON at the signe of the Phenix M.DC.XXXI The argument of the first booke VVHo in more then 260. points of controuersie speake with the holie Scripture in the very selfe same or equiualeÌ„t words when it speaketh of those matters expressely and of purpose and in that sense also which the words of Scripture of themselues without anie exposition of man do afforde and in which sense such words vse to be spoken and vnderstood of men they touching those points agree both in words and meaning with the holie Scripture And who speake of those points both in such words and sense as are contrarie to the foresaied words and sense they in those points disagree both in words and sense from the holie Scripture But Catholiks doe that and Protestants this Therefore c. The Maior semeth to be manifest by it selfe and is largely proued in the second booke Cap. 1. The Minor is shewed to the eye in all the first booke The argument of the second Booke VVHo not onely in more then 260. points of controuersie disagree from the foresaied words and sense of Scripture but also are forced openly to reiect some of the words thereof to blot out some to call others in question to change the order of others to change almost all kinds of the Scriptures speaches to expound her words by quite different and plaine contraries to reiect the vnanimous exposition of holie Fathers to confesse that some of their opinions were long since condemned for heresies that some are blasphemous and playne contrarie to Scripture such contradict not onely the words but also the true sense of Scripture But Protestants doe thus Therefore c. The Maior is manifest by it selfe and the Minor shewed to the eye in the second Booke APPROBATIO HOc opus cui titulus Collatio doctrinae Catholicorum ac Protestantium cum expressis sacrae scripturae verbis duobus libris comprehensa Latino serm one olim editum à duobus S. Theol. Doctoribus Parisiensibus approbatum nunc verò auctum in Anglicum sermonem fideliter conuersum nihil habet fidei Catholicae aduersum aut bonis moribus sed plurimum valet ad confutationem doctrinae haereticorum praesentis temporis proinde rectè praeli beneficio in lucem edetur Datum Duaci die 2. Ianuarij 1631. GEORGIVS COLVENERIVS S. Theol. Doctor eiusdem Regius ordinarius ac primarius Professor insignis Ecclâ—siae Collegiatae S. Petri Praepositus Canonicus Duacen sis Academiae Cancellarius librorum Censor THE PREFACE TO THE READER WHEREIN THE SCOPE MANNER OF PROCEDING AND PROFIT OF THIS BOOKE IS DECLARED REQVISITE TO BE READ BEFORE THE BOOKE THERE are now diuers years Gentle Reader since I published the first parte of the Prudential Balance of Religion in which by the weights of Prudence and Right Reason I weighed together the Catholik and Protestant religion according to their first Founders in our English nation to wit S. Austin and Martin Luther which booke hath neuer since bene answered by anie Protestant albeit diuers ministers and superintendents haue carped at it both in Pulpits and printed books shewing thereby that they wanted no will to answere it if they could haue performed it In the preface thereof I promised a second parte in which I would after the same manner weigh the forsaied religions according to their claimes to the holie Scripture and the expresse words thereof which here now I offer vnto thee The causes why I haue so long differred the publishing of this second parte are well enough knowne to them who know me and not needfull to be known of them who know me not And therfore I will not trouble thee with the rehearshall of them but here propose vnto thee the scope manner of Proceding and Profits of this second parte 2. As a man consisteth essentially of a Soule and Bodie and can neither be nor be imagined without them both So the true Church of Christ essentially consisteth Two things wholy necessarieto Christs Church of his true Doctrine which is the forme and as it were the soule of his Church and of lawfull Pastors and People who teach and embrace his Doctrine which Pastors and People make as it were the bodie of Christes Church And without both these partes to wit Christs true Doctrine and true Pastors teaching and People embracing it Christs true Church can no more be or imagined to be then a true man can either be or imagined to be without both the true bodie and true soule of a man And albeit the manifest need of both these partes to the true Church of Christ doth enforce Protestants to make some clame to them both and to pretend that they haue alvaies had both true Pastors who taught and People who beleiued their Doctrine yet their pretense to this parte of the Church is so weake and slender as but seldome and vpon mere necessitie they insist thereon But their greatest pretense and claime is to the true Doctrine of Christ and think thereby to proue that they haue alwaies had true Pastors and People who taught and beleiued their Doctrin as I haue shewed in a Booke of the Author of the Protestant Church and Religion wherein also I haue conuinced by ten Demonstrations all taken out of the open Confessions of the best learned Protestants both of England and other Countries that they neuer had anie one Pastor who taught or man who beleived the very fundamentall and most substantiall points of their religion before Luther arose but that he was first Author Inuentor and Father therof as some of them in plaine termes do call him 3. And although this Booke haue bene now these manie years published both in Latin and English and doth by the open confessions of the best learned Protestants ouerthrow the very foundation of their Church or rather shew that it hath no foundation at all besides their owne imagination yet hitherto no Protestant hath made anie shew of a solid answere vnto it I saie no shew of a why D. Prideaux lecture is no answer to the Author of Protest religion solid answere because that florish which Doctor Prideaux the Kinges diuinitie Reader in Oxford hath made in a lecture deserueth not the name of shew or shadow of an answer First because
do not pacifie his wrath but prouoke it See more art 16. Scripture This is the will of God your Sanctification that you abstaine from fornication c. Protestants God testifieth that he will not that his commaÌ„dments be kept will he haue the promises of the law performed of vs Nothing lesse He commandeth some thing which he will not haue done Properly speaking God will not haue his commandments kept of vs. See art 17. Scripture God hath concluded all into incredulitie that he God hath mercie on all may haue mercie on all Protestants God hath concluded all the reprobats vnder He hath not mercie on all sin that he might iustly destroy them God nether would nor will haue mercie on all See art 18. Scripture Thou louest all thinges that are and hatest nothing God loueth all of that which thou hast made Protestants God cannot be saied to loue all Albeit he created He loueth not all all in Adam yet be loueth not all God loueth only the elect in Christ all the rest he iustly hated from all eternitie and will for euer hate See more art 18. Scripture God will all men to be saued Not willing that anie God will all to be saued perish Protestants God will not haue all saued not euerie one He will not all to be saued saued It is not true that God would haue all saued by Christ God will not haue those that are reprobates to be saued See more art 19. Scripture Liue I saieth our lord God I will not the death of God will not the death of a sinner He will the death of a sinner the impious but that he be conuerted and liue Protestants God willeth the death of a sinner with his vnsearchable will God createth some to death to perish to destruction God predestinated to death whome he would and because he would See art 22. Scripture God made not death God made not death He made death Protestants God is the Author of death Gods will is the first and vnauoidable cause of the perdition of them that perish The hidden will of God worketh death in all See more art 22. cit Scripture Impious men are not necessarie for him God needeth not the impious He needeth them God daÌ„neth men for sin He damneth not them for sin God can de all things He cannot doe all things Protestants It is false that God hath not need of a sinner See art 22. cit Scripture Get ye away from me you accursed into fire euerlasting for I was an hungred and you gaue me not to eate Protestants God for his mere will damneth men He damneth them that deserue not There is no other cause of mans damnation then Gods mere pleasure See art 23. Scripture VVith God all thinges are possible Protestants That saying All things are possible to God hath some exception God hath no absolute power See more art 24. CHAPTER III. OF CHRIST SCripture Who Christ was predestinate the Sonne of God Christ predestinate the SoÌ„ne of God Not predestinate Christ made lawes He made none in power Protestants That Christ was predestinate the Sonne of God is Arianisme See art 2. Scripture Teach them to obserue all things whatsoeuer I haue commanded you Protestants Christ is no lawmaker no lawgiuer who gaue anie new law to the world See art 7. Scripture Beare ye one an others burdens and so ye shall fulfill Christs Ghospell a law the law of Christ Protestants The Ghospell must not be called a new law Art No law 7. cit Scripture And he hath giuen him power to doe iudgment Christ a iudge because he is the Sonne of man Protestants Christ is not iudge He shall not exercise the last No iudge iudgment as man See art 8. Scripture For these are the twoe testaments Twoe testaments Protestants There are not twoe testaments See art 9. Not twoe Christ learnt nothing Scripture How doth this man know letters whereas he hath not learned Protestants Christ was so ignorant as he learnt and was He laernt taught as men are See art 10. Scripture It was seemly that we should haue such a high preist Christ no sinner holie innocent impolluted separated from sinners VVho did not sin Protestants Christ was a sinner and that truly we must not He was a sinner imagin Christ to be innocent He confesseth his delicatenes ouerwhelmed with desperation he gaue ouer calling vpon God He needed baptisme See art 11. Scripture This is my beloued sonne in whome I am well pleased Christ beloued of God Protestants God made Christ by imputation a sinner or Hatefull of God vniust guiltie hatefull to God See art 11. cit Scripture This commandment of giuing my life I receaued Christ commanded to die Not commaÌ„ded He sufficiently redeemed Not sufficieÌ„tly of my Father Protestants They say A law was made that Christ should die But this is against Scripture See art 14. Scripture The Sonne of man is come to giue his life a redemtion in Greek 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 for manie Protestants They erre saying that Christs death was a sufficieÌ„t redemption 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 for the sinnes of all Christ died not sufficiently for all See art 16. Scripture He hath reconciled in the bodie of his flesh by He redeemed vs by death death Pacifiing by the blood of his crosse Protestants Nothing had beene done if Christ had suffered Not by death only corporall death Reason it selfe teacheth that only corporall death of Christ was not sufficient to redeeme them who had deserued death both of bodie and soule Se more art 17. Scripture Christ did die for the impious They denie him Christ died for the impious and damned Not for them that bought them the lord bringing vpon them selues speedie perdition Protestants Christ did not giue him self for the impious and reprobates He shed not his blood for the sinnes of the impious damned See more art 18. Scripture who is the Sauiour of all men especially of the Sauiour of all faithfull VVho gaue him selfe a redemption for all Protestants It is not Christ the Redeemer of all No. Christ Not Sauiour of all is the Redeemer only of the elect and of none els See more art 18. and 19. Scripture He is the propitiation of our sinnes and not of our Propitiation for the sins of the world Not for the sins of the world His soule went to hel Not to hel Entred the dores being sâ—ut Not being shut sinnes onely but also for the whole worlde Protestants They speake amisse who say that by Christs death the sinnes of the whole world were redeemed See art 19. cit Scripture Thou shalt not leaue my soule in hel Protestants Christs soule neuer went to the places of hel Christs soule did not descend to hel See art 21. Scripture Iesus cometh the dores being shut and stood in the midst Protestants Christ by his diuine
that are adiudged to eternall punishment Not cause of damnation are not therefore damned because they sinned Onely incredulitie damneth See more art 10. Scripture Euerie one of vs for him selfe shall render account Account is to be giuen of sinnes to God That euerie one may receaue the proper things of the bodie as he hath done ether good or euill Protestants If workes come into iudgment we are all damned Not to be giuen These sinnes shall not come to account before God See more art 11. Scripture reporteth that Dauid saied of him selfe I haue Dauid did ill done ill before thee Protestants Dauid neuer committed sinne The regenerate He did not ill commit noe sinne See more art 12. Scripture reporteth these words of Dauid I am he that Dauid him selfe sinned haue sinned I haue done wickedly Protestants The elect him selfe doth not sinne but sinne that Not him self dwelleth in him The true faithfull or regenerate doth not sinne See more art 13. CHAPTER XVII OF IVSTIFICATION SCripture Abraham was he not iustified by workes Abraham iustified by workes Not by workes Man iustified by workes Not by workes Sinnes forgiuē for loue Not for loue Protestants Abraham was not iustified by his good workes He was iustified by no other thing at all but by faith See art 1. Scripture Doe you see that by workes a man is iustified Protestants We saye they are not iustified by workes we can not be iustified by workes See art 1. cit Scripture Manie sinnes are forgiuen her because she loued much Protestants Not because the woman loued much therefore her sinnes were forgiuen her See art 1. cit Scripture By workes a man is iustified and not by faith Man not iustified by faith onely By faith onely Some iust before God None iust before God onely Protestants We are iustified by faith onely By faith onely we receaue remission of sinnes See more art 2. Scripture They were both iust before God Protestants Before God none is iust none can be iust Where shall anie such iust be found amongst men See more artic 3. Scripture You are cleane The blood of Christ cleanseth vs Some cleane from all sinne Protestants The beleiuers are iust and yet vncleane The None cleane pious man is in him selfe vncleane and filthie See more art 4. Scripture As farre as the East is from the west hath he made Sinnes taken from the iustified Not taken frō them our iniquities farre from vs. There is no iniquitie found in me Protestants In the regenerate there are manie sinnes and great filth Innumerable sinnes euen such as are worthie of death remaine in the regenerate See more art 5. Scripture Before him God iustice hath bene found in me Iustice in mē No iustice in them Protestants There can be no iustice in vs. There is no inherent iustice in the iudgment of God See more 8. Scripture To him that beleiueth in him who iustifieth the Some inherēt thing imputed No inherent thing imputed Men not certaine of grace Certaine impious his faith is reputed to iustice Protestants What is inherent is not imputed See more art 9. Scripture Man knoweth not whether he be worthie of loue or hatred Protestants It is lewednes to say that none can know by certaintie of faith that he hath obtained grace See more artic 10. Scripture Ye are fallen from grace Some fall frō grace None fall frō grace Protestants It is impossible for those that beleiue to fall from grace The elect neuer fall from grace The faithfull neuer fall from the grace of God See more art 12. Scripture Thou by faith doest stand Be not highly wise but VVe must feare feare Protestants That is not to be suffered that they exhort vs VVe must not feare to feare I cannot be damned vnlesse Christ be damned See more art 13. Scripture If the iust man shall turne away him selfe from his Some reprobates iustified Noreprobates iustified Man prepareth his hart He prepareth it not iustice and doe iniquitie in his sinne which he hath sinned in them he shall dye Protestants No reprobate is iustified The elect only repent and doe good workes See more art 14. Scripture It perteineth to a man to prepare the harte Protestants In our conuersion to God we haue our selues wholy passiuely A man is like a blocke in his conuersion See more art 15. CHAPTER XVIII OF EVERLASTING LIFE AND DEATH SCripture Your reward is very great in heauen You shall receaue Saluation a reward or retribution No reward or retribution There is a crowne of iustice No crowne of iustice Faith alone saueth not It saueth Some already suffer the paines of hell None yet suffer the paines of hell Hell a place of torments No place the retribution of inheritance Protestants That he saueth is mere grace not a reward or retribution See more art 1. Scripture There is laied vp for me a crowne of iustice Protestants Paule acknowledgeth nothing in the whole course of saluation but mere grace See more art 2. Scripture Shall faith be able to saue him Protestants Faith alone saueth By faith alone we are saued See more art 3. Scripture As Sodome and Gomorrha and the citties adioyning in like manner hauing fornicated c. were made an example sustaining the paine of eternall fire Protestants It is a false position that the soules suffer in hell before the bodies See more art 6. Scripture Lest they also come into this place of torments Protestants We must not imagin that hell is anie certaine definite and corporall place A locall hell is a fiction See more art 7. Scripture Departe from me ye cursed into fire euerlasting Hell fire true fire Protestants They feigne that the soules of men and diuels Not true fire are tormented in hell with true and corporall fire See more artic 8. CHAPTER XIX OF GODS LAW SCripture My yoke is sweet and my burden light Gods law possible Not possible Some haue kept Gods law None haue kept it Some haue loued God with all their hart None haue loued him so Gods law in the harts of some In the harts of none We pray to fulfill Gods will We pray not so Keeping the cōmandments necessarie to life Not necessarie Protestants The law is impossible to be kept It is impossible to keepe the commandments See more art 1. Scripture I haue kept thy law They haue kept thy word Protestants No man performeth the law or euer performed it See more art 2. Scripture faieth of Iosias He returned to our lord in all his hart and in all his soule and in all his power according to all the law of Moises Protestants There was no Sainte who in this mortall life loued God with all is soule with all his hart with all his power See more art 3. Scripture The law of God in his hart Protestants Euen after regeneration the word of the law is not properly saied to be in
our hart See more art 4. Scripture Thy will be done in earth as it is in heauen Protestants We do not pray that we may fulfill the law See more art 5. Scripture If thou wilt enter into life keepe the commandments Protestants Woe be to their Cathecumens if so hard a condition of keeping the law be imposed vpon them See more art 6. Scripture Do we then destroye the law by faith God forbid but we establish the law Protestants All the ceremoniall law or the Decalogue is abrogated It is abrogated from a Christian because he is dead to it And to be dead to the law is not to be bound with the law but free from it and not to know it See more art 7. CHAPTER XX. OF MANS LAVV. SCripture Who thinkest thou is a faithfull and wise seruant Superioritie amōgst Christians whome his lord hath appointed ouer his familie Protestants Among Christians there can be no superioritie Christ is my immediate Lord I know no other See more art 1. Scripture To the rest I say not our Lord If anie brother None amōgst them haue a wife an infidell and she consent to dwell with him let him not put her away Protestants They draw to themselues all the maiestie of God Man can command that which God doth not He cannot Conscience subiect to mās lawes Not subiect who chaleng authoritie to make lawes See more art 2. Scripture Be subiect of necessitie not only for wrathe but also for conscience sake Protestants The lawes of Princes bind not the conscience haue no power ouer the conscience See more art 3. CHAPTER XXI OF FREE WILL. SCripture It shal be in the arbitrement of her husband whether There is free will she shall do it or not do it Protestants Free vill is a title without the thing See more There is none art 1. Scripture Without thy counsell I would do nothing that thy Freedome to good good might not be as it were of necessitie but voluntarie Protestants Man after his fall hath no libertie to good There No freedome to good is no free will to good See more art 2. Scripture We are Gods coadiutours Gods coadiutors Protestants Papists make God the first and cheefest cause of all goodnes and vs coadiutours Which is craftily to withdraw Not his coadiutors themselues from God See more art 3. CHAPTER XXII OF MANS SOVLE SCripture Feare ye not them who kill the bodie and are not Mans soule immortall able to kill the soule Protestants I giue leaue to the Pope to make articles of faith Not immortall for his followers Such as are that breade and wine are transsubstantiated in the Sacrament That he is Emperour of the world and an earthlie God That the soule is immortall and all those infinit monsters in the Romish dunghill of decrees What Propositions I pray you shal euer be thought cōtradictions if these be not seing there can scarce be deuised more formall or more direct opposition then is betwixt the most of these But because perhaps the vulgar Protestante will say that he beleiueth not all or most of the Protestants propositions here set downe albeit this excuse will not suffice him as I haue shewed in the end of my Preface yet for his fuller satisfaction I haue gathered twelue principall articles which commonly all Protestants beleiue quite contrarie to the expresse word of God THE COMMON PROTESTANTS CREED CONSIsting of twelue Articles quite contrarie to the expresse word of God in the Scripture 1 PROTESTANTS beleiue that a man is Lib. 1. c. 16. art 2. iustified by only faith quite contrarie to the expresse word of God Ioannes 2. v. 4. Do you see that a man is iustified by workes and not by faith only 2 Protestants beleiue that we can not keep Goods commandments quite contrarie to his expresse word Ezechiel 36. v. 27. I will make Lib. 1. c. 18. art 1. that you walke in my commandments and keepe my iudgments and doe them 3 Protestants beleiue that the keeping of Gods commandments is not necessarie to come to life euerlasting quite contrarie to Gods expresse words Mathew 19. v. 17. Lib. 1. c. 18. art 6. If thou wilt enter into life keepe the commandments 4 Protestants beleiue that no men can forgiue sinnes quite contrarie to the expresse word of God Ihon 20. v. Lib. 1. c. 11. art 1. 22. Receaue ye the holie Ghost whose sinnes ye shall forgiue they are forgiuen them 5 Protestants beleiue that we are not bound to confesse our sinnes to men quite contrarie to the expresse word of Lib. 1. c. 11. art 2. God Ioannes 5. v. 16. Confesse your sinnes one to an other 6 Protestants beleiue that men when they die are not to be anoiled quite contrarie to the expresse word of God Lib. 1. c. 11. art 7. Iames 5. v. 14 Is anie man sicke among you Let him bring in the preists of the Church and let them pray ouer him auoiling him with oile in the name of our lord 7 Protestants beleiue that the blessed Sacrament is not the true bodie and blood of Christ quite contrarie to the Lib. 1. c. 10. art 1. expresse word of God Luke 22. v. 19. This is my bodie which is giuen for you and Mathew 26. v. 28. This is my blood which shal be shed for remisson of sinnes 8 Protestants beleiue that the Church of God is not infallible in faith quite contrarie to Gods expresse word 1. Lib. 1. c. 8. art 6. Timothie 3. v. 15. Which is the Church of the liuing God the pillar and ground of trueth 9 Protestants beleiue that we must not beleiue Traditions quite contrarie to the expresse word of God 2. Thessalon Lib. 1. c. 5. art 9. 2. v. 15. Hould the Traditions which you haue learned whether it be by word or by epistle 10 Protestants beleiue it is ill done to pray in the Church in an vnknowne language quite contrarie to the expresse Lib. 1. c. 14. art 12. word of God 1. Cor. 14. v. 17. where it is saied of such a one Thou indeed giuests thankes well 11 Protestants Beleiue that there is no sacrifice in the Church quite contrarie to the expresse word of God Malachie Lib. 1. c. 11. art 11. 1. v. 11. In euerie place there is sacrificing and there is offered to my name a cleane oblation 12 Protestants beleiue that there is no altar in the Church quite contrarie to the expresse word of God Hebrewes Lib. 1. c. 11. art 12. 13. v. 10. We haue an altar whereof they haue no power to eate who serue the tabernacle THE FIRST BOOKE OF THE CONFERENCE OF CATHOLIKE AND PROtestant doctrine with the expresse words of the holie Scripture FIRST CHAPTER OF GOD. Article 1. Whether God willeth iniquitie or sinne SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY DENIETH. PSALME 5. verse 5. Thou art God will not iniquitie not a God that wilt iniquitie Abacuc
much vncleanes with which God may be iustly offended and angried so farre are they from purchazing vs his good will or prouoking his liberalitie towards vs. Confessio Saxonica c. de remiss Peccat It is a dishonor to the Sonne of God to imagin that any workes are propitiation for sinne The same hath Apologia pro Confess August c. de Implet legis THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth 〈…〉 pacified with praier with zele wiâ—◠〈…〉 The same teach Catholiks â—â—â—â—ants expressely teach contrariwise that God is not pacified with good workes that good workes pacifie not his wrath but prouoke iâ— that our good workes are farre from purchazing Gods fauour That it is dishonor to Christ to imagin that good works are propitiation for sinne ART XVII WHETHER GOD WILL haue his commandments kept SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Ezechiel 36. v. 27. And I will make that you walke in my God will haue his commandments kept precepts and keepe my iudgments and doe them Mathew 12. ver 50. For whosoeuer shall doe the will of my father that is in heauen he is my brother and sister and mother Acts. 13. v. 22. I haue found Dauid the sonne of Iesse a man according to my hart who shall doe all my willes 1. Thessalon 4. v. 3. For this is the will of God your sanctification that you abstaine from fornication c. CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Actor 15. v. 10. Behould and marke Caluins double blaâ—phemie He saieth that God testifieth that it shall neuer be that his law be fulfilled He addeth that God will 〈◊〉 that it be done that he will not that his law 〈◊〉 â—hen these twoe be saied any thing more absurd 〈…〉 paradoxes PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Caluin in Actor 15. ver 10. Nether let vs rashly inquire God will not haue them kept whether it can be that Gods commandments be kept which him selfe testâ—fieth shall neuer be and that he will that it neuer be lib. 2. de lib. arbit p. 148. We denie not but that God can giue so great grace to man as may be equall to the iustice of the law but because he hath denied that he will do it we say that it is simâ—ly impossible to be done He will noe haue the law to be kept Bâ—za in 2. parte Respons ad Acta Colloq Montisbel p. 226. When we heare the promises of the law will he haue them He commandeth that which he will not haued one to be performed of vs Nothing lesse Therefore he commandeth some thing which he will not haue done and promiseth also some thing which he will not performe Zanchius l. 3. de natura Dei c. 4. q. 10. Often times Gods commandment is one thing and his will is an other For God coÌ„mandeth Gods commandment contrarie to his will some thing as to Pharao and to other wicked men which properly he will not for if he would it shoud be done Piscator apud Vorstium in Parasceue part 8. If God will properly speaking haue his commandments kept of vs then can it not be but we should keepe them And l. 2. Thes p. 208. God some time doth by word signifie that he will which indeed he willeth not And. p. 201. Whereby we perceaue that there is a certaine God dissembleth holie dissembling in God which is lawfull to men and much more to God who is a most free agent And loco 12. p. 172. He saieth that there is holie dissembling and that Christ dissembled And Grauerus in Absurdis Caluin c. 5. sect 34. That is called a good and lawfull dissembling wheÌ„ one in outward speech feigneth himselfe to will euill thinges but in inwarde motion and affection of hart or mynd willeth and at last doth good And of such a dissembling in God there is an example Genes 22. Thus they make some dissembling good and 〈◊〉 dissembler and yet crie out against all aequiuocation 〈…〉 Genes 20. to 6. fol. 244. seemeth to make Christ an 〈…〉 thus he writeth That which they terme an officious lye is 〈…〉 fit of our neighbour So Christ in Luke feigned that he 〈…〉 Sauls daughter saied that Dauid laie in bed Beza also 2. part respons ad Acta Montisb p. 174. saieth There is some good deceit So God by his will of signe or that which is outwardly declare not onely willeth but also commandeth Isaac to be killed of his father And Peter Martyr loco 13. sect 39. It is some time lawfull to vse good deceit THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that God will make vs to walke in his precepts and keepe his commandments that it is Gods will that we abstaine from fornication and that who doth Gods will is Christs brother sister and mother The like saye Catholiks Protestants expressely teach the contrarie that God will not haue his commandments kept that God will not giue sufficient grace to keepe them that God will nothing lesse then to haue his lawes kept that God commandeth some thing which he will not haue done and promiseth some thing which he will not performe And thus much of God touching good works Now let vs speake of him as he carrieth him self towards men or mankind ART XVIII WHETHER GOD LOVETH all men and hath mercie on all SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Wisdom c. 11. v. 24. 25. But thou hast mercie an all because God loueth all thou canst do all things and dissemblest the sinnes of men for repentance For thou louest all things that are and hatest nothing of those which thou hast made And v. 27. But thou sparest all because they are thine O Lord which louest soules Ihon. 1. vers 16. For so God loued the world that he gaue his onely begotten Sonne that euerie one that beleiueth in him perish not but may haue life euerlasting Rom. 11. v. 32. For God hath concluded all into incredulitie that he may haue mercie an all CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Card. Bellarmin l. 2. de Grat. lib. arb cap. 5. Nether Would haue mercie on all must these words He hath mercie on all he spareth all be restrained to the elect For the reason why God spareth all and hath mercie on all is taken in this place out of creation because God hath created all and because he loueth soules and things which he hath made but this is common to all absolutely PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Whitaker Controu 2. q. 1. c. 13. p. 449. Christ loueth not the reprobate Beza de Praedestinat cont Castell vol. 1. p. 346. God God loueth not all cannot be saied to loue all alike no not to loue all P. 345. Albeit he hath created all in Adam yet he loueth not all 343. You will therefore saye he is their father for so much as pertaineth to creation I confesse Therefore say you He loueth them But this He loueth the elect onely I flatly deny In Colloq Montisbel p. God loueth the elect onely in Christ all the rest he iustly hated from all
Christ was no lesse Christ freighted as the damned are freighted in soule then we or the damned are whiles they dread and flie God fol. 333. He was most troubled with wandring fears and most vnquiet affections And addeth fol. 330. cit that In exceeding despaire Christ was at once both excedingly glorying and despairing Melancthon in c. 26. Matthaei apud Hofmeister in Art 3. Floted betwixt hell and life Augustan The third that the greatest cause of Christs dread was a feeling of Gods forsaking and wrath whereby Christ floted betwixt hell and life Caluin in Catechismo c. de fide Because he preseÌ„ted himselfe Christs conscieÌ„ce anxious before the tribunall seate of God for to satisfie for sinners it was needfull that his conscience should be tortured with this anxietie as if he had beene forsakeÌ„ of God yea as if he had God his mortall enemie In Math. 26. ver 37. The depth of horrible destruction did greeuously vexe him to feare anxietie In v. 39. It was needfull Feared profound death for him to feare the profound depth of deathe Christ was stroaken with the dread of Gods malediction In Hebrae 5. v. 7. I doubt not but the Apostle meaneth that Christ was deliuered Feared to be swalowed of death Almost perswaded that he was cast away from that which he feared to wit lest ouercome with euills he should yeeld or be swallowed with death And the same repeateth Beza vpon the same place and addeth He was almost persuaded that he was cast away And in Luc. 22. v. 44. Nether did Christ wrasle onely with the fears of death as other men dâ—e but with the dreadfull iudgment of his angrie Father then the which nothing can be thought more dreadfull And in this deiection of Christ consisteth the summe of our comforte Pareus l. 3. de Iustificat c. 12. When Bellarmin had saied He cannot feare who by faith is assured of his saluatioÌ„ Answereth The proposition vnlesse it be limited is vniuersally false Who more sure of his saluation and predestination that our Sauiour and yet did he not crie vpon the Crosse and not without feare My God c. See more of their like sayings in my Latin booke c. 2. art 13. THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that Christ knew that his Father did alwaies heare him that he did abide in his loue that he went to his father that he should sitt on the right hand of the power of God that he should be in paradise that God was at his right hand that he be not mooued The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that Christ suffered the dread of a conscience tasting euerlasting wrath was freighted in his soule like to the damned was exceedingly despairing did flote betweene hell and life was tormented with anxietie as if God were his mortall enemie was grieuously vexed with the dread of horrible destruction did feare the profound depth of death and Gods malediction feared lest he should be ouercomen with euills and swallowed with death was almost perswaded that the was cast away was afraied of his saluantion And yet these men as we shall see c. 17. art 10. auouch that euerie one of them is assured of his saluation and account him no Christian or faithfull man who is not so assured yea they make assurance of saluation an essentiall point of faith So that they make theÌ„selues farre more assured of their Saluation then they make Christ and condemne vs for doubting of our Saluation who make Christ to doubt feare and despaire of his ART XIV WHETHER CHRIST HAD a commandment of his Father to giue his life or to die for vs SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Ihon 10. vers 18. I yeeld my life that I may take it againe No man taketh it away from me but I yeeld it of my selfe and Christ commanded to giue his life I haue power to yeeld it and I haue power to take it againe This commandment I receaued of my Father cap. 18. vers 11. The chalice which my Father hath giuen me shall not I drinke it Roman 5. v. 19. For as by the disobedience of one man manie were made sinners so also by the obedience of one manie shal be made iust Philippen 2. v. 8. He humbled himselfe made obedient vnto death euen the death of the crosse CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME S. Thomas 3. parte quaest 47. art 2. Christ receaued a commandment of his Father to suffer PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Polanus in Disput priuat periodo 1. disput 36. They say Not commaded to die A law was made that Christ should die But this is against Scripture For so his merit should not haue beene voluntarie The same also do other Protestants meane who ether say that in euerie proper merit the oblation must needs be not commanded as Hutterus in Analysi Confess Augustan artic 4. or that it must not be due or of obligation as Whitaker saieth lib. 9. cont Dureum sect 34. Perkins in Cathol reform Contr. 5. c. 2. Vorstius in Antibellarm p. 638. and others THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that Christ receaued this coÌ„mandment of his Father to yeeld his life that his Father gaue him the chalice of his passion that he was obedieÌ„t to death and that by his obedience manie are made iust But as Polanus himselfe confesseth part 2. thes p. 219. obedieÌ„ce cannot be so much as imagined but in regard of the law to which it is afforded The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that there was no law made of Christs death that if it had beene commanded his death had not beene meritorious ART XV. WHETHER CHRIST MERITED any thing for himselfe or had any thing for merit SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Christ exalted for his humiliation Philippen 2. v. 8. 9. He humbled himselfe made obedient vnto death euen the death of the crosse For the which thing God also hath exalted him hath giuen him a name which is aboue all names c. Hebrews 2. v. 9. But him that was a litle lessened vnder the Angels we see Iesus because of the passion of death crowned with glorie and honour CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME S. Thomas 3. part q. 19. art 3. Christ had by merit the glorie of his bodie and those things which pertaine to his outward excellencie as ascension whorshippe and such others PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Caluin in Philippen 2. ver 9. Nether Christ got nor sought Christ got nothing for him selfe any thing for himselfe In 2. Institut c. 17. § 6. To enquire whether Christ merited any thing to himselfe as the Scholastiks doe is no lesse foolish curiositie then temerarious resolution wheÌ„ they affirme it With what merits could man obtaine to be iudge of the world head of Angels Daneus Controu 2. p. 27. The Sententiarians do say that Christ merited also to him selfe but we denie it He merited nothing for for himselfe Pareus l. 5. de Iustif c. 3. It is false that
The price of our redemption is the blood of Christ or his corporall life which consisteth in blood Stapleton in Prompt Quadrages fer 4. Hebdom Sanct. Caluin putteth not onely an other price beside the corporall death of Christ but also an other greater and more excellent Can Christian ears suffer this PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Whitaker lib. 8. cont Dur. sect 18. Caluin wrote most truely Christs death had done nothing That nothing had beene done if Christ had suffered onely corporall death Perkins de Serm. Dom. to 2. col 576. Reason it selfe teacheth Was not sufficient that onely corporall death of Christ was not sufficient to redeeme them who had deserued death of bodie and soule Willet Cont. 20. q. 3. p. 1088. The bodilie death of Christ was Was not the full price not in respect of Gods iustice the whole and full price of our redemption Caluin 2. Instit c. 16. § 10. Nothing had beene done if Christ There needed a greater price had suffered onely bodilie death There was an other greater more excellent price that he suffered in his soule the horrible torments of a damned and lost man Bezalib quaest vol. 1. Theol. Christ was in the midst of the torments of hell for to deliuer vs fully from both deathes c. Scarpe de Iustif Cont. 16. Writeth that diuers ProtestaÌ„ts say that those places of Scripture in which is saied that Christ dyed for vs are to be vnderstood onely of his feeling of the wrath of God and not of his bodilie death and that his bodilie death auailed nothing to our redemption nor was a parte of the satisfaction for sinnes THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that Christ hath reconciled vs in the bodie of his flesh by death hath pacified all things by the blood of his crosse hath sanctifieth vs by the oblation of his bodie hath found an eternall redemption by his blood hath redeemed vs by his blood with his blood in his blood hath purchased the Church with his blood The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that nothing had beene done if Christ had suffered onely corporall or bodilie death that his corporall death was not sufficient to redeeme vs that there was need of a greater and excellenter price that his corporall death auailed nothing to our redemption nor was any parte of the satisfaction for sinnes Which are so manifestly opposite to Scripture as some Protestants confesse it See lib. 2. c. 30. ART XVIII WHETHER CHRIST DIED for the impious and reprobats SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Christ died for the impious For him that perisheth For the vniust Rom. 5. ver 6. For why did Christ when we as yet were weake according to the time die for the impious 1. Cor. 18. ver 11. And through thy knowledge shall thy weak brother perish for whome Christ hath died 1. Peter 3. v. 18. Because Christ also died once for our sinnes the iust for vniust 2. Peter 2. v. 1. seq But there were also false Prophets in the people as also in you there shal be lying maisters which shall bring in sects of perdition and denie him that hath bought them the For those that goe to perdition Lord bringing vpon themselues speedie perdition vnto whome the iudgment now long since ceaseth not and their perdâ—tion slâ—mbereth not CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarmin l. 4. de Amiss Gratiae c. 7. Our Lord suffered and died for the vniust PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Whitaker Controu 2. q. 1. c. 9. p. 437. Christ did not giue Christ died not for the impious The wicked not redremed by Christ himselfe for the impious and reprobates Which he repeateth cap. 13. Rainolds thesi 4. q. 22. The wicked albeit they be termed faithfull for their profession of faith or for temporall faith yet are they not redeemed or founded in Christ. In Apologia thesium p. 246. Christ offered himselfe for the elect onely 247. Redeemed only the elect The elect onely were redeemed of Christ Perkins de Praedestinat tom 1. col 135. Whome at anie time he acknowledged not he neuer bought or redeemed with the price of his blood col 137. Of these Christ is onely a half-redeemer and therefore no redeemer And de Desertion col 1023. Christ is the redeemer onely of the elect and of none else So also D. Willet Contr. 9. q. 2. p. 893. Caluin l. cont Heshus p. 849. I would know how the impious Not crucified for the impious eate Christs flesh for which it was not crucified and how they drinke his blood which was not shed to redeeme their sinnes Beza in Colloq Montisbel p. 447. Christ died not for the sinnes of them that are damned He shed not his blood for the remission of the sinnes of the impious and damned Epist 28. It is false that Christ is the mediatour of the infidels also Zanchius in Summa Praelection to 7. col 272. Christ according to the purpose of his Father was borne praied suffered and died onely for the elect In Depulsion Calum col 253. The Reprobats not redeemed reprobats were not redeemed by Christ Piscator apud Gerlachium Disput 9. Christ no waye died for the reprobats other sufficiently or effectually THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that Christ died for the impious for the vniust for those that perish that he bought lying monsters who bring in sects of perdition and bring vpon themselues speedie perdition and whose perdition slumbereth not Catholiks say the same Protestants expressely teach the contrarie that Christ gaue not himselfe for the impious or reprobats that the wicked were not redeemed in Christ that Christs flesh was not crucified for the impious nor his blood shed for their sinnes that Christ offered himselfe onely for the elect that they onely were redeemed by Christ that Christ is redeemer of the elect and of none els no mediatour of Infidels was borne suffered and dyed for the elect onely that nether sufficiently nor effectually he died for the reprobats Which are so contrarie to Scripture as manie Protestants acknowledge it See l. 2. c. 30. ART XIX WHETHER CHRIST DIED for all SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. 2. Corint 5. v. 14. For the charitie of Christ vrgeth vs iudging Christ died for all this That if one died for all then all were dead and Christ died for all 1. Timoth. 2. v 6. Christ Iesus who gaue himselfe a redemption for all Chap. 4. v. 10. Who is the Sauiour of all men especially of the faithfull Hebrews 2. v. 9. We see Iesus because of the passion of death crowned wiâ—h glorie and honour that through the grace of God he might taste death for all 1. Ioan. 2. v. 2. We haue an aduocate with the Father Iesus Christ the iust and he is the propitiation of our sinnes and not of ours onely but also for the whole worlds Ca. ver 14. The Father hath sent his Sonne the Sauiour of the world CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent Sess
fable that it skilleth not greatly to know how he descended into Hell that some of them eagerly impugne this article of the Creed and would haue it put out of the Creed and that some haue put it out Which is so plaine a contradiction of Scripture as diuers Protestants confesse it See l. 2. c. 30. ART XXII WHETHER CHRIST SVFfered the paines of Hell of the damned and the second death of the soule SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY DENIETH. Acts 2. v. 24. Whome God hath raised vp loosing the sorrows of Christ loosed the paines of Hell Free among the dead Hell according as it was impossible that he should be houldē of it Psal 87. v. 6. I am become as a man without helpe free among the dead CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY DENIE D. Stapleton in Promptuar Quadrages feria 4. Hebdom Sanctae It is a very diuelish speech and execrable blasphemie of Caluin that Christ in soule suffered the horrible torments of damned and lost man PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Whitaker l. 8. cont Dur. sect 20. Christ suffered the paines of Hell for a time Perkins in Explicat Symboli col 679. Others so expound Suffered the paines of Hell He felt and bore the torments and anguishes of Hell This is a good and true exposition Col. 680. Those words Crucified dead and buried are not to be vnderstood of a common and ordinarie death but of an execrable and cursed death by which Christ sustained the full wrath of God yea the anguishes of Hell both in bodie and mynd De Serm. Dom. col 575. Christ bore the sinnes The anguishes of Hell in mynd and bodie Suffered the second death of the elect together with the punishment due to them so much as appertaineth to the substance thereof to wit the first and second death Parkes cont Willet p. 114. Luther Illyricus Latimer tought that Christ descended into Hell bodie and soule and there sustained torments after death Willet Cōtr. 20. q. 3. p. 1083. I will shew in what tolerable sense Died in soule Christ is affirmed to die in the soule Et pa. 1112. That Hell flames are not eternall in Christ the worthines of his person obtained Luther in Psal 22. to 3. fol. 330. Christ suffered that which we should haue suffered for sinne and which the dāned now suffer In Gen. 42. to 6. f 586. I thinke that Christ sustained the sorrows of Hell Let vs know that Christ must haue borne the paine of Hell Hutterus in Analysi Confess Augustan art 3. Christ suffered the true sorrows of hell Lobechius disp 6. p. 136. Christ suffered the punishment of Suffered the paines of the damned the desperate and damned and euerlasting paines Caluin 1. Instit c. 16. § 10. He suffered that death which God in anger inflicteth vpon the wicked He suffered in soule the horrible torments of a desperate and lost man In Catechismo c. de fide he asketh How can it come to passe that Christ who is the saluation of the world should be subiect to this damnation and Answereth He was not so vnder Was subiect to damnation it as he remained vnder it In Rom. 10. v. 6. He suffered the horrors of hell for to deliuer vs from them Beza lib. Quaest vol. 1. p. 672. He was in the middest of the torments of hell Daneus Cont. 2. p. 165. Bellarmin saieth that the onely death which Christ suffered in bodie satisfied God for our sinnes This is false For the reward of sinne is death and that is twoe fould The Suffered the separation of God from his soule first is the separation of the soule from the bodie the second is the separation of God from the soule Both which Christ suffered therefore both death of soule and bodie and that wholie for vs and not onely the death of the bodie Vrsinus in Catechismo pag. 278. To beleiue in Christ who descended into hell is to beleiue that Christ suffered in his soule the hellish torments and sorrows Polanus in Sylloge thes par 3. p. 450. Christ died the eternall death And Pareus Colloq Theol. 2. disput 5. citeth Brentius saying Christ burnt in the flames of hell More like hellish Was burnt in the flames of hell speeches of theirs are in my Latin booke ca. 1. art 22. See Rogers vpon the 3. Article of English Confession THE CONFERENCE Scripture saieth that Christ was free among the dead that he loused the sorrows of hell and could not be held of it The same say Catholiks Protestants say that Christ suffered the paines the sorrows the anguishes of hell the true sorrowes of hell hellish torments that which the damned now suffer the torments of a desperate and lost man that he burnt in the flames of hell was in the middest of the torments of hell sustained the anguishes of hell both in bodie and mynd suffered the torments of hell both in bodie and soule that he suffered the execrable death the first and secōd death that death which God in his wrath inflicteth vpon the wicked the second death of the soule which is seperation from God that he died the eternall death that he was vnder damnation ART XXIII WHETHER CHRIST ENTRED vnto his disciples the doores being shut SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Ihon. 20. v. 19. When it was late that day the first of the Sabboths Christ entred the doores being shut and the doores were shut where the disciples were gathered together for feare of the Iews Iesus came and stood in the middest Et v. 26. After eight daies againe the disciples were within and Thomas with them Iesus cometh the doores being shut and stood in the middest and saied c. CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Ioan. 20. v. 19. The Euangelist saieth that Christ entred the doores being shut which words exclude all opening of any entrance PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Willet Controu 20. q. 2. p. 1079. We graunt that Christs coming in the doores being shut was miraculous because one substance gaue place to an other for a time and after the passing of his bodie the place remained whole and shut as before but not in the very instant of passing Spalatensis lib. 5. Repub. cap. 6. num 180. Christ could He opened the dores truely open himselfe the doores and streight waies shut them and in the meane time hould the eyes of his disciples that they should not see ether the doores open or himselfe enter vntill he was in the middest Peter Martyr in dialogo col 97. When our Lord would The doores gaue place enter the doores of themselues gaue place Caluin Admonit vlt. ad Westphal p. 805. But if Christ by his diuine power did miraculously open the shut doores doth it therefore follow that his bodie was infinit Beza cont Westphal vol. 1. Theol. p. 231. Caluin thinketh He opened the doores rather that the Euangelist spake of the doores shut to giue to vnderstand that of themselues they opened to Christs entrance In Ioan. 20. v. 19.
God be in your iourney and his Angel accompanie you Luke 16. ve 24. Christ ether in a historie or in a parable maketh the rich man thus praying Father Abraham haue mercie on me And v. 27. Then Father I beseech the that thou wouldest send c. And nether he nor Abraham condemneth this praier as impious or idolatrous but onely reiecteth it as two late Apocalyps 1. v. 4. 5. S. Ihon thus praieth Grace to you and peace from him that is and that was and shall come and from the seuen spirits which are in the sight of his throne and from Iesus Christ who is the faithfull witnesse CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent Sess 25. c. de Inuocat It is good and profitable humbly to call vpon the Saints that reigne together with Christ PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE The English Articles art 22. The doctrin of the Romanists Saints not to be praied vnto touching inuocation of Saints is a fonde thing vainly deuised In like sorte writeth Confes Heluet cap. 5. Wirtenbergica c. de Inuocat Augustana c. 21. Saxonica c. 22. and Articuli Smalcaldici c. de Inuocat Perkins in Serie causarum cap. 21. The inuocation of the Nor Angels Saints and Angels is much more impious So in reform Cath. pag. 251. Rainolds in his Conference c. 1. sect 2. calleth it a most pestilent basiliske Melancthon in Disput to 4. pa. 531. The inuocation of the dead is manifest idolatrie Beza in 1. Ioan. 2. ver 1. The Soules in heauen of Saints departed this life cannot be inuocated without impietie And lib. quaest resp vol. 1. affirmeth that the inuocation of Angels and dead Saints is impious idolatrie The Like say Protestants commonly THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that Iacob made praier to any Angel besought an Angel with teares that Tobie praied an Angel that the rich man inuocated Abraham that S. Ihon praied vnto the seuen spirits which are before the throne of God The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that the inuocation of Angels or Saints is a found thing vainly deuised impious idolatrous and most pestilent ART IX WHETHER GOD BE TO BE praied vnto by the names of Saints SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Exod. 32. ver 11. and 13. But Moises besought the Lord his God praied by names of Saints God saying Remember Abraham Isaac and Israel thy seruants to whome thou swarest by thine owne selfe saying I will multiplie your seed as the starres of heauen Psal 131. v. 10. For Dauid thy seruants sake turne not away the face of thy Christ 2. Paralipomen 6. v. vlt. Remember the mercies of Dauid thy seruant Daniel 6. ver 35. Nether take thou away thy mercie from vs for Abraham thy beloued and Isaac thy seruant and Israel thy holie one CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm. l. 1. de Sanctis cap. 19. In the ould testament men prayed God and alledged the merits of Saincts which were departed that their praiers might be holpen by them PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Confession of Saxonie c. 22. saieth that in the Prophets Not to be so praied there is not found any such inuocation Heare me O God for Abraham Confession of Bohemia art 2. They teach that God is to be praied and inuocated by the name of Christ onely Caluin 3. Instit c. 20. § 21. In Papistrie God is besought by the names of Saints Ibid. Their merits are obtruded for to purchase Gods good will The like teach commonly all Protestants So Perkins reform Catholik Contr. 14. p. 257. THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that Moises praied God by the names of Abraham Isaac and Iacob that Azarias in Daniel did the same that Salomon praied God for Dauids sake and for his mercies The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that there is no such kinde of praier in the Prophets Heare me ô God for Abrahams sake that God is to be praied vnto onely by Christs name that to pray God by the names or merits of Saints is vnlawfull ART X. WHETHER GOD TAKE MERcie on men for the merits of Saints SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMITH 3. Reg. v. 4. But for Dauids sake our Lord his God gaue him a God hath mercie for the Saints sake lampe in Hierusalem that he might raise vp his sonne after him and establish Hierusalem because Dauid had done right in the eies of our Lord. 4. Reg. 19. ver 34. And I will protect this cittie and I will saue it for my selfe and for Dauid my seruant CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Prompt Cathol in Festo Om. Sanctorū The Scripture by manie exāples doth shew the merits of Saints by which the godlie are holpen C. Bellarm. l. 2. de Missa c. 8. We aske mercie of God by the merits and praiers of Saints through the mediation of Christ PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Apologia Confess Augustan c. de Inuoc We thinke that we ought not to trust that the merits of Saints are applied vnto vs that for them God is reconciled to vs. Whitaker l. 9. cont Dur. sect 38. We know that you are God hath not mercie for the Saints sake blasphemous and iniurious to Christ who pray to Saints that their merits may helpe you Caluin 3. Instit c. 20. § 21. In Papistrie Now and then the merits of Saints are obtruded for to get Gods good will De vera reform p. 339. It is not to be borne that which they say that through Gods liberalitie and Christs grace merits of Saints do profit vs for protection and obtayning of fauour Perkins ref Cathol Cōtr. 14. p. 266. We vtterlie denie that we are helped by merits of Saints ether liuing or departed THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that God did good to Abias Dauids great graundchild for Dauids sake and because Dauid had done right in Gods sight that is for the good deeds or merits of Dauid that he protected Hierusalem for himselfe and for Dauid The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that God is not reconciled vnto vs for the merits of Saints that it is blasphemous to say that the merits of Saints do helpe vs that they profit vs not ether for protection or obtayning of fauour ART XI WHETHER ANGELS OR SAINTS are to be worshipped with the bowing of our bodie SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Gen. 19. v. 1. And the twoe Angels came to Sodom at euen and Lot sitting in the gates of the cittie who when he had seene Angels Worshipped them rose vp and went to meete them and adored prostrate on the ground and saied I beseech you my Lords turne into the house of your seruant Numbers 22. v. 31. Forewith our Lord opened the eyes of Balaam and he saw the Angel standing in the way with a drawne sword and he adored him flat to the ground Iosue 5. v. 13. When Iosue had seene an Angel and asked him who he was and the Angel had answered I am a Prince of the hoaste of our Lord Iosue fell flat to the
regenerated ether by baptisme or at the time when they are baptized finally that baptisme profiteth none but is a vanie and vnprofittable thing What Christians I pray the are these who make this account of their Christendome And these sayings are so repugnant to Scripture as sometimes Protestants confesse it See l. 2. cap. 30. ART VIII WHETHER IN BAPTISME euen sinnes to come be pardoned SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY DENIETH. Act. 8. v. 21. S. Peter speaketh thus to Simon Magus already Sinnes to come not forgiuen in baptisme baptized Doe pennāce therefore frō this thy wickednesse and pray to God if perhaps this cogitation of thy hart may be remitted thee 1. Cor. 5. v. 5. S. Paul commandeth a Corinthian baptized for incest to be deliuered to Sathan that his spirit may be saued in the day of our Lord. CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY DENIE C. Bellarm. l. 1. de baptismo c. 18. Catholiks gather that the efficacie of baptisme doth not extend it selfe vnto the time to come but onely to the time past for it pardoneth sinnes committed and not yet remitted PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Perkins in Serie Causarum c. 33. In baptisme once administred Sinnes prēsent and to come forgiuen in baptisme is giuen remission of sinnes not onely past and present but also of those that are to come all your life time The like he hath in Galat. 3. to 2. Whitaker lib. 8. cont Dur. sect 101. Who are baptized are baptized in Christs death but Christs death auaileth to wash away not onely those sinnes which goe before baptisme but also those which follow in all the life time The like he hath Cont. 2. q. 5. 7. p. 515. Willet Cont. 12. q. 6. p. 579. Baptisme is a seale of remission of sinnes for the confirmation of our faith euen of those which are committed after baptisme as well as of sinnes done before Therefore baptisme sealeth vnto vs the remission of all our sinnes going before or following after Bezal Quaest resp vol. 3. p. 344. Baptisme therefore doth not abolish onely sinnes past Yea the fruite thereof stretcheth through the whole life of the faithfull And in Hebr. 10. v. 11. Whosoeuer is sprinkled with blood of Christ is deliuered for euer from sinnes past and to come Et Epist 5. The fruit of baptisme is the sealing of adoption the ablution from sinnes both past and to come Daneus de baptismo cap. 18. tom 2. Howsoeuer that grace and remission of sinnes be sealed vnto vs it pertaineth as is referred in all Christs sacramēts to blot out all our sinnes past present and to come Zanchius in sua Confessione cap. 18. to 8. For baptisme is not giuen in remission onely of originall or sinnes past but of all for all the life time Festus Homius in Disp 44 Remission of sinnes not onely of those which were committed before baptisme but also of those which are to be committed all the life is sealed in baptisme vnto the faithfull More of their like sayings may be seene in my Latin booke c. 9. art 8. THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely teacheth that a baptized man must doe pennance for remission of such sinnes as he committeth after baptisme that a baptized man was deliuered to Sathan that his soule might be saued The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely teach that in baptisme is giuen remission of sinnes past present and to come that baptisme auaileth for sinnes that follow all the life time that baptisme is a seale of remission of sinnes as well committed after as before that whosoeuer is once sprinkled with Christs blood is deliuered for euer of all sinnes past and to come that in baptisme is giuen and sealed to the faithfull remission of all sinnes to be committed all their life time Which is to oppen a brode way to all wickednesse And whereas Protestants haue falsely saied that the Pope giueth pardons for sinnes to be done we see that they Protestants pardon to sinne manifestly giue such pardon to all and euerie one that is baptized or iustified with them ART IX WHETHER THE CHILDREN of the Faithfull be borne and abide in state of damnation vntill they be baptized SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Ephes 2. v. 3. And we were by nature the children of wrath Children of faithfull borne in state of damnation as also the rest Rom. 5. v. 12. As by one man sinne entred into this world and by sinne death and so vnto all men death did passe v. 15. For if by the offence of one manie died v. 18. Therefore as by the offence of one vnto all men to condemnation so also by the iustice of one vnto all men to iustification of life The same also is cleare by the places before cited for the necessitie of baptisme CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in 1. Cor. 7. v. 14. It is a new and profane paradoxe of Caluin that the children of Christian parents are borne the sonnes of God PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Perkins de baptismo tom 1. col 842. Baptisme doth not Not in sote of damnation make the children of Christian parents the sonnes of God but onely doth seale vnto them the couenant of grace and certifieth them that they are comprehended in it In Gal. 2. v. 15. Originall sinne which is hidden from beginning in them is not imputed to them The children of the faithfull are borne Saints Willet Cont. 12. q. 3. p. 565. The children of the faithfull are Are holie holie already euen before they be baptized Zuinglius in 1. Co. r 12. tom 4. The children of Christians are In the Church with in the Church and bodie of Christ euen before they be Christened Caluin 4. Instit cap. 16. § 31. Who are borne of faithfull parents Are Saints are by supernaturall grace Saints § 32. Streight after they are borne they are had and acknowledged of God for children In Actor 8. v. 37. I say that the children of the godlie are borne Members of Christ children of the Church and from the wombe reputed members of Christ And de ve◠reform pag. 349. he stretcheth this fauour not onely to the immediat children of faithfull parents but also manie generations after and as he saieth 4. Instit c. 16. § 9. to the thousand generation And seing that there is no man in the world who is a thousand generations from Noe he must say that all children whosoeuer at lest all the elect are borne saints and in state of grace saluation Beza l. cont Heshus vol. 1. Theol. p. 307 The children of Are Saints the faithfull are saints before God euen from the wombe The like hath Confessio Heluet. cap. 20. Gallica artic 35. Peter Martyr in locis Class 2. c. 8. and others commonly as also may appeare by what hath beene saied before art 4. Nay sometimes they say that euen the children of Infidels are borne in state of grace and saluation Zuinglius de baptismo to 2. f. 91. Infants which are borne Infidels
or This is my sacramentall or mysticall bodie Oecalampadius in Beza Resp ad Repet Sanctis pag. 48. That bread is a symbolicall bodie Zanchius lib. 1. Epistolarum pag. 280. These three bodies Misticall bodie of Christ we reade in the holie Scriptures His true and naturall his Misticall which is the Church and sacramentall which is bread Daneus Cont. de Euchar. c. 10. Austin confesseth that the Onely Sacramentall bodie bread is onely the sacramentall bodie of Christ but not his naturall bodie Againe The bread which Christ gaue to his Apostles was his sacramentall bodie Vrsinus in Miscellaneis p. 172. There is a bodie of Christ properly so called and a sacramentall which is the Eucharisticall bread Thus we see how plainly they say that the Eucharist is Christs symbolicall bodie his sacramentall bodie his mysticall bodie and not his true bodie Which himselfe saieth most plainly to be his true bodie that very bodie which was giuen and deliuered for vs. Finally we see how manie wayes the Caluinists do contradict the expresse word of God in this one matter First in expressely denying the Eucharist to be the bodie of Christ which the Scripture so often and so plainely affirmeth Secondly in saying that it is onely a signe or figure of Christs bodie which the Scripture plainely and often saieth is his true bodie Thirdly in saying that it is but onely figuratiuely his bodie which the Scripture simply and absolutely saieth is his bodie Fourthly in saying that Christs bodie is but figuratiuely or by faith and imagination in the Eucharist Which the Scripture directly affirmeth to be the substance of the Eucharist Fiftly in saying that Christs bodie is no more receaued in the Eucharist then in the simple word whereas Christ bidde vs take and eate his bodie in the Eucharist but not in his word Sixtly by saying that the Fathers in the ould law receaued Christs bodie in their Sacraments as truely as we do in the Eucharist when as they were neuer bidden to take and eate Christs flesh in their Sacraments as we are in the Eucharist Finally in saying that the Eucharist is Christs symbolicall sacramentall and mysticall bodie which the holie Scripture saieth is his bodie which was giuen and deliuered for vs. ART II. WHETHER CHRISTS FLESH be to be eaten and his blood to be drunke SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Math. 26. ver 26. Take ye and eate This is my bodie ver 28. Christs bodie and blood to be eaten and drunck Drinke ye all of this For this is my blood c. Ihon 6. v. 53. Vnlesse you eate the flesh of the Sonne of man Truely and drinke his blood you shall not haue life in you Et 56. My flesh is truely meate and my blood is truely drinke CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Math. 26. v. 28. For to perfect the new testament and couenant of which Christ speaketh betwixt vs and him no spirituall eating or drinking of the bodie and blood of Christ sufficeth but there is plainely required an externall reall and corporall receauing of them both PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Zuinglius l. de Relig. c. de Euchar. to 2. Christs flesh eaten Christ flesh eaten profiteth not profiteth nothing at all Which he often repeateth in Exegesi fol. 333. 334. 336. 346. and in Ioan. 6. to 4. in so much as Hospin part 2. Histor fol. 181. writeth that Zuinglius euerie where inculcateth that Christs flesh eaten profiteth nothing And c. cit de Euchar. Nether do we thinke that they are to be Not be eaten spiritually heard who determin thus we eate the true and corporall flesh of Christ but spiritually for they do not see that it can not stand together to be a bodie and to be spiritually eaten Againe What is giuen to be eaten is Christs bodie but symbolicall In Exegesi fol. 329. Christ did not command his bodie to be eaten but symbolicall bread Respons ad Luther fol 435. We eate and drinke We eate and drinke nothing but bread and wine nothing but bread and wine In Apol. f. 370. We teach that the onely signe of Christs bodie is eaten in this Eucharisticall Supper Respons ad Billican fol. 264. We are taught that Christs corporall flesh can be no way eaten And as Hospin lib. cit fol. 181. saieth Zuinglius euerie where inculcateth that the true and reall flesh of Christ cannot be eaten so much as spiritually and that to eate Christs flesh is nothing els but to beleiue Oecolampadius in Hospin l. cit f. 75. Flesh eaten profiteth nothing but the spirit And in Schusselburg lib. 1. Theol. Caluin Mistica artic 22. I do not read in the Euangelists that they bidde receaue and eate Christs bodie Carolstadius in Scusselburg l. cit art 28. This I know that Christ neuer gaue his bodie that we should receaue it For he saieth My flesh profiteth you not Tigurins in Schusselburg lib. cit artic 23. His flesh on earth profited for to accomplish our saluation now it profiteth no more Peter Martyr cont Gardiner col 146. It is farre from the Christs bodie not to be truely eaten He gaue not his bodie but bread He exhibited not his bodie in substance bodie of the Lord to be truely eaten Confessio Czengerina c. de Caena p. 193. Yea after the pronouncing of Christs words Christ gaue bread to the Apostles and not his bodie Caluin defens 2. cont Westphal pag. 774. I saied that Christs bodie was exhibited effectually in the Supper not naturally according to vertue not according to substance Beza Resp ad Acta Torgens vol. 3. p. 68. What is eaten with the mouth auaileth nothing to eternall and spirituall life Perkins in Cathol reform Cont. 10. c. 3. Though the bodie may be bettered with spirituall food of the soule yet cannot the soule be fedde with bodily food Polanus in Grauer in Absurdis Caluin cap. 3. Those words of Christ Take eate are not spoaken of Christs bodie for nether The words not ment of his bodie tooke he that into his hands nether brake nor gaue it to his disciples And albeit sometimes they say in words that they eate the bodie of Christ yet they adde that to eate is nothing but to beleiue as we haue already repeated out of Zuinglius and haue cited more places of their like sayings in my Latin booke c. 10. art 2. or by word Body or Flesh they vnderstand not Christs true body or flesh but some other thing as the same Zuinglius doth Respons ad Luther tom 2. fol. 390. In Exegesi fol. 350. and 333. and in Explicat art 18. tom 1. fol. 37. In like sorte how beit sometimes in words they say they eate the substance of Christs bodie yet Beza confesseth Apolog. 1. cont Sainctem pag. 294. that vnwillingly they vse the name Substance and as he addeth Respons 3. ad Selneccer pag. 271. Manie of them refuse it and not without cause and that is euident by the words now cited out of Caluin
of these Princes a foresaied albeit weake yet was true and liuelie The same saieth Pareus l. 1. de Iustificat c. 15. Caluin in Antidoto Concilij Sess 6. Can. 28. I denie not Faith liuelie euen in most grieuous sinnes that some seed of faith remaineth in a man euen in most grieuous falls That how litle soeuer it be I confesse to be a parcell of true faith and liuelie also Zanchius in Confess c. 27. to 8. The faith of the elect alwaies liueth Contra remonstrantes in Collat. Hagae 396. It is not saied here If faith be defiled with any grieuous sinne that that faith is dead for so no man should haue liuelie faith Of the same opinion are all Lutherans who say that faith before and without good workes doth iustifie and Sacramentaries also who teach that iustification of faith remaineth in the faithfull what sinnes soeuer they commit For faith saieth doth not iustifie or giue life whiles it is dead but onely whiles it is liuelie if it iustifie without good workes yea with verie ill workes cleare it is that it is not dead or idle but liuelie without good or with ill workes THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that faith without good workes is dead is dead in it selfe is dead as a bodie without the soule that all faith without charitie is nothing The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that faith without workes is not dead is not nothing is not vnprofitable that though it be defiled with great sinnes yet it is not dead that it nether can be nor caÌ„ be saied to be dead that in grieuous falls it is liuelie euen in those Princes who loued the glorie of men more then the glorie of God ART XI WHETHER THE FAITH whereof S. Iames speaketh be true or iustifying faith SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Iames 2. vers 22. Seest thou that faith did worke with his Saint Iames speaketh of iustifying faith Abrahams workes and by the workes the faith was consummate and the Scripture was fulfilled saying Abraham beleiued God and it â—as reputed him to iustice Et v. 24. Do you see that by workes a man is iustified and not by faith onely CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm. l 1. de Iustif cap. 15 many waies proueth that S. Iames speaketh of iustifying faith PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Whitaker l. 1. cont Dureum sect 13. That Iames denieth He speaketh of a diuelish faith vs to be iustified by faith onely is to be vnderstood of a vaine feigned dead imaginarie and diuelish faith The like hath Iewel cited before art 8. Zuinglius in Iacob 2. to 4. saieth S. Iames speaketh of a counterfeit emptie and vaine faith Caluin in Iacob 2. v. 17. 19. He speaketh not of faith In v. Of a dead image of faith 14. He speaketh of a dead image of faith of a false profession Beza in Iacob 2. v. 14. It is not true faith but a dead image Peter Martyr in locis clas 3. c. 3. § 23. Iames maketh mentioÌ„ of a dead faith but that is no faith Pareus l. 4. de Iustif c. 18. For Iames deuideth not iustification He remoueth faith from iustification betweene faith and workes as the Sophisters would but wholy remoueth faith as a dead thing from iustification THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that S. Iames spooke of faith which did worke with the workes of Abraham which was consummate by his workes wherewith Abraham did beleiue which was reputed to him for iustice and by which a man is iustified but not alone The same say Catholiks Protestants say that the faith whereof S. Iames speaketh was not iustifying faith was not faith was not true faith was a vaine feigned imaginarie and diuelish faith was a counterfeite and dead image of faith ART XII WHETHER ANIE FAITH be full or perfect and of some account in the sight of God SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Mathew 15. v. 28. Then Iesus answering saied to her O Woman Some faith great Full. great is thy faith Act. 6. v. 5. And they chose Steuen a man full of faith and of the Holie Ghost Rom. 4. v. 18. Who contrarie to hope beleiued in hope Et v. 19. Strong And he was not weakened in faith 2. Cor. 8. v. 7. In all things you abuond in faith Aboundant Heb. 10. ver 22. Let vs approch with a true hart in fulnesse of faith Iames 2. vers 22. And by the workes the faith was consummate Consummate 1. Petri 1. v. 7. That the triall of your faith much more pretious Pretious then gould which is proued by the fire may be found vnto praise CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Rom. 4. v. 2. The act of faith wherewith the vnderstanding is captiuated vnto the obedience of Christ is an act of notable vertue PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Iacobus Andreae in Colloq Montisbel p. 106. Faith is Faith is imperfect imperfect and no man beleiueth so firmely as he is bound to doe Caluin 3. Instit c. 11. § 7. Faith albeit of it selfe it be of no Of no worth worth or value iustifieth vs bringing Christ as a pitcher filled with money doth enrich a man In Math. 9. v. 22. We see that faith hath need of pardon for to please God In Act. 6. v. 8. Nether must we imagin any perfection of faith because he Saint Steuen was saied to be full of faith Beza in Colloq Montisbel pag. 28. It neuer came in our Not perfect mynd to say that there was any perfect faith in any Peter Martyr in locis classe 3. c. 3. § 6. Which I say not that I thinke that we are iustified by faith as it is a worke for it is defiled with many spottes of our infirmitie c. 4. § 8. If faith it selfe be considered as it is worke we cannot be iustified by it sith it is a worke lame and inperfect and farre worse then the law requireth but we are saied to be iustified by it as by it we apprehend and applie to our selues the promises of God and iustice merits of Christ Imagin a most filthie hand leprous and of some beggar Like a most filthie and leprous hand with which he receaueth almes of the giuer surely that beggar is not holpen of the filthinesse or leprosie of his hand but of the almes which he taketh with what kinde of hand soeuer And in Roman 11. he compareth our faith to a weake leprous and scabbie hand Pareus de Iustificat c. 7. It is not absurd that with faith is Sinfull mingled sometimes distrust or incredulitie which is a sinne and that so by an accident faith is sinne Againe Faith iustifieth as a beggar by a scabbie hand receaueth almes Pareus in c. 31. Enchiridij S. Augustini If we consider how Not worthie the name of vertue faith is of it selfe and in vs it is imperfect lame polluted and defiled and mingled with infidelitie so that it is not truely worthie of the
promise wil be abrogated In Philippen 1. ver 28. Certainly the Scripture no where teacheth that the afflictions which the Saintes suffer of the wicked are cause of their saluation Beza in Confess c. 4. sect 19. For these things are not so to be vnderstood as if our workes were cause of our saluation ether wholy or in parte Peter Martyr in Rom. 9. God workes are no true cause of eternall saluation Zanchius l. 5. de Natura Dei cap. 2. q. 7. The workes of the godlie are no true causes of euerlasting happines but onely the meanes by which as it were by degrees the elect are mercifully ledde into the euerlasting and heauenlie cittie Pareus libr. 4. de Iustificat cap. 7. Our aduersarie concludeth false that the kingdome of heauen is giuen for good workes Tilenus in Syntagmate cap. 48. Good workes in respect of No cause at all saluation can be no cause at all THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely teacheth not onely that we shall possesse the kingdome of heauen because we haue done good workes that we shall reape life euerlasting of the spirit that the soule liueth for iustification that sorrow according to God worketh saluation that afflictiction worketh glorie and is cause of saluation but also in the same manner saieth that the elect shall possesse heauen because they haue done good deeds as it saieth that the reprobats shall goe into euerlasting fire because they haue done ill deeds So it saieth that the soule liueth for iustification as it saieth the bodie dieth for sinne In like sorte it saieth that sorrow according to God maketh saluation as it saieth that sorrow of the world worketh death Euen in the same sorte it saieth that of sowing in spirit we shall reap life euerlasting as it saieth that of sowing in flesh we shall reape corruption And in the same kind of speach saieth that persecution is cause of saluation to those who suffer it as it saieth that it is cause of damnation to those who make it The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that affliction is not cause of saluation that the heauenlie in heritance cometh not to vs by workes that the life is not giuen for good workes that we are not rewarded for good workes not saued for workes that saluation dependeth not of workes that workes are no way cause saluation are no cause of it ether wholy or in parte Which do so plainely contradict the Scripture as therefore Illyricus is forced to reproue the Scripture For this he writeth in Claue tractat 6. cit tit de varia bonorum operum praedicat col 551. We heare that toto great effects and praises yea euen saluation it selfe is attributed of the Scripture to good workes It manifestly appeareth that very often to much paise is giuen by Scripture to good workes which doth not agree to them nor is to be attributed if we will speake exactly truely and properly Behould how plainely he saieth that Scripture attributeth to great effects vnto good workes attributeth saluation vnto them attributeth very oftentime to much praise vnto them and such effects as agree not to them nor are to be be attributed to them if we will speake truely But surely if the Scripture attributeth to much to good workes and that which doth not agree to them and which is not to be attributed to them if we will speake truely the Scripture in so doing doth falsely But whether the Scripture or Illyricus know better what is to be attributed to good workes let Christians iudge ART XVI WHETHER GOOD WORKES be a testimonie of iustice and predestination SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. 1. Ioan. 2. ver 5. But he that keepeth his word in him in By good workes we know we are in God That we are translated from death God workes make election sure very deed the charitie of God is perfited in this we know that we be in him cap. 3. ver 14. We know that we are translated from death to life because we loue the brethren And ver 21. If our hart do not reprehend vs we haue confidence towards God 2. Peter 1. vers 10. Wherefore brethren labour the more that by good workes you may make sure your vocation and election CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Rom. 9. ver 11. If we beleiue Saint Peter the certaintie of our saluation and consequently of the election is concluded in doing of good workes not in the onely purpose of God PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Confessio Wittenbergensis C. de Confess We know that Workes make but doubt and despaire if we looke vnto our workes we should not onely doubt but also despaire of our saluation Ministri Electorales in Colloq Aldeburg pag. 427. We No certaintie by good must certainely determine out of the word of God deliuered and proposed vnto vs and not out of the feeling of infused newnesse of life as it were by an effect that by faith freely for and by Châ—ist we haue remission of sinnes Caluin 3. Instit c. 2. § 38. If we must iudge by workes how God is affected toward vs I confesse that we can haue but a small ghesse all it De necessitate reform pag. 47. What shall man A small ghesse by workes Matter of doubt and despaire Of trembling find in his workes but matter of doubting and at length of despairing And in Antidot Concili Sess 6. cap. 8. As long as we looke what we are we must tremble before God so farre are we from hauing certaine and vnshaken hope of eternall life In Rom. 4. v. 14. We are vtterly lost and vndone if we be sent to our workes when we must seeke the cause or certaintie of our saluation In 1. Ioan. 3. v. 22. Woe to vs if we looke to our workes Nothing but matter of feare which haue nothing in them but matter of feare Pareus lib. 1. de Iustificat cap. 10. The trust of remission of sinnes nether dependeth nor riseth of a good conscience l. 3. c. 2. Our faith and trust doth reape nothing of our owne disposition but feare of deceit doubt and anxietie Et l. 4. p. 625. Of our owne Of doubt and anxietie accord we graunt that if faith must relie vpon inherent iustice we must not onely doubt of grace and iustice but also perpetually tremble THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that we know that we are in God by keeping of his word that we know we are translated from death to life because we loue our brethren that we haue trust toward God if our hart do not reprehend vs that we make our vocation and election certaine by good workes The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that by workes we haue no certaine trust that trust nether dependeth nor riseth of a good conscience that by workes we cannot haue anie small ghesse how God is affected towards vs that we are vndone if we must seeke the certaintie of our saluation out of workes that in workes is nothing found
of Of it selfe nether good nor badde workes which of themseues are nether properly good nor badde Of this kind is fasting sobrietie and desire of keeping virginitie in those who haue the guift of continencie And c. 5. sect 39. Nether virginitie nor marriage we reckon amongst those things which simply and of theÌ„selues make vs better and more gratefull to God Daneus Contr. 5. p. 1045. Virginitie is no vertue but a thing No vertue indifferent And generally all Protestants when the Apostle calleth virginitie good in Greek 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 will not haue him vnderstood of a good that is honest or vertuous but onely of a good that is profitable THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that virginitie is honest that it is a holines in bodie and soule that it is better and happier then marriage and that it is to be desired for the kingdome of heauen Catholiks say the same Protestants plainely say that virginitie is a thing indifferent is nothing not simply good not good of it nature not of it selfe a vertue not simply good not a vertue not wholy to be desired not required of God and in the religious a diuelish thing ART III. WHETHER THE STATE OF virginitie be better then the state of marriage SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. 1. Cor. 7. v. 38. He that ioyneth his virgin in matrimonie doth Virginitie better then marriage well and he that toyneth not doth better ver 40. More blessed shall she be if she so remaine CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent Sess 24. Can. 10. If anie shall say that it is not better and happier to abide in virginitie or single life then to marrie be he accursed PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Whitaker ad Ration 8. Campiani Virginitie is neuer better Not better then marriage but in some sorte Marriage is often times simply better then virginitie Willet Controuers 15. quaest 5. pag. 806. Virginitie is Not more holie not a more holie and cleane thing in it selfe then marriage is before God in themselues nether is more holie then ether Confessio Witten bergeÌ„sis C. de votis We must not thinke Not more excellent that this kinde of single life is of selfe before the iudgment seat of God more excellent and more holie then marriage Luther Serm de Matrimonio to 5. f. 126. Single life in it Much more baste thou marriage Marriage a most diuine state selfe is much more baser then marriage And fol. 124. he calleth marriage a diuine life in 1. Cor. 7. f. 107. the highest religion and most spirituall state 107. truely heauenly spirituall and diuine state if it be compared with this spirituall state Againe We conclude that marriage is like gould and this spirituall state dung In Genes 2. to 6. fol. 26. To beget children is after preaching To get children is the cheifest worke of the word of God the cheifest worke And in c. 21. fol. 257. Married mens life consisteth in the highest degree of spirituall life Vrbanus Regius in locis to 1. f. 345. Preaching of the word Virginitie in it selfe baser then marriage of God maketh the state of virginitie better then marriage by reason of greater impediments which yet in it selfe is baser Bindebachius in Consensu cit p. 799. If you consider these kinds of life virginitie and marriage by themselues they are indifferent and before God nether is more holie then the other Caluin in 1. Cor. 7. v. 35. Here thou hast twoe things worth noting The one is to what end single life is to be desired to wit not for it selfe nor because it is a perfiter state In like manner Beza vpon the same place Serranus cont Hayum part 3. p. 159. If marriage be the Nothing better then mar-marriage seminarie of mankind if the ornament if the stay as all the Polititians euer taught can ther be any thing better or more excellent in life then marriage THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that virginitie is better and more happie then marriage The same say Catholiks Protestants expressâ—ly teach that virginitie is not a perfecter state theÌ„ marriage not more holie not more excellent that it is baser then marriage much baser that marriage is the highâ—â—â— religion most spirituall state and that in this life nothing is better or more excellent then marriage What religion I pray you haue these men whose cheife religion and most spirituall state is marriage and who account nothing in this life better then marriage to beget children the cheifest worke beside preaching ART IV. WHETHER GOD WOVLD haue men to liue single SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. 1. Cor. 7. v. 7. I would all men to be as my selfe Et v. 27. Art God exhorteth all to single life thou loose from a wife seeke not a wife Math. 19. v. 12 He that can take let him take Apocalips 14. v. 4. These are they which were not defiled with weomen For they are virgins These follow the lambe whether soeuer he shall goe CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in 1. Corinth 7. vers 8. The Spirit of God by the mouth of the Apostle exhorteth to constant virginitie and single life PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther in Disput to 1. f. 383. The word Increase and multiplie All commaÌ„ded to increase is naturally ingrafted and necessarily imposed generally vpon all that are men De votis to 2. f. 272. Plainely Christ did not counsaill virginitie but rather discouraged In 1. Cor 7. to 5. f. 105. Paul will haue vniuersally all to be married Serm. de Matrimonio S. Paul will haue all married f. 119. Increase and multiplie is not a precept but more theÌ„ a precept He is a baud that flieth marriage Epistola in Wofgangum to 7. f. 505. God pronounceth the sentence that he will God will haue none vnmarried haue none to be vnmarried but multiplie He that will liue vnmarried plainely fighteth against God To take a wife and to eate and drinke both alike are inforced by necessitie and God commandeth a like both to be done Et Epistol ad Equites Teuto 2. To marrie as necessarie as to eate or drinke Church men commanded to marrie Preists commanded to marrie Germ. Ienen fol. 214. The word of God commandeth Church men to marrie wiues Confessio Augustana c. de Coniugio Paul saieth that such a one is be chosen Bishop as is a husband Et Apologia eiusdem cap. 15. They bidde ws shew a precept which commandeth Preists to marrie as if Preists were not men Melancthon Resp ad Acta Ratisbon to 4. Paul will haue a Preist to be married Zuinglius in Paraenesi ad Heluetos to 1. f. 114. The holie Ministers commanded to marrie And Bishops Scripture is so farre from forbidding Ministers of the Church to marrie that it commandeth it more then once fol. 115. When they heare Paul in so expresse words commanding that a Bishop be married to a wife c. Bullinger in 1. Timoth.
the disobedience of one man manie were made sinners CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm. l. 4. de Amiss Gratiae c. 13. In that one man all sinned PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Zuinglius de Peccato orig to 2. f. 116. Nether hindreth it We sinned but figuratiuely in Adam Not truely sinned that S. Paul Rom. 5. saieth All haue sinned For after the same manner the worde Sinned is putte metonymically De Ratione fidei ib. f. 539. I confesse that our first father committed a sinne which is truely a sinne but they who are descended of him did not sinne in this sorte Adolphus Venator apud Homium in Specimine c. We did not sinne in Adam art 15. Thereupon it may be gathered that we did not sinne in Adam because c. THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that all sinned in Adam that by his disobedience manie are made sinners The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that all sinned in Adam but figuratiuely that Adam truely sinned but not they who are descended of him that we sinned not in Adam ART XVIII WHETHER THERE BE anie originall sinne SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Scripture in places before cited saieth that all sinned Originall sinne true sinne in Adam that by his disobedience many were made sinners 1. Cor. 15. v. 12. that in Adam all died CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent Sess 5. Can. 2. If anie shall say that Adam by his sinne of disobedience transfused onely death and punishment of the bodie in all man kinde and not sinne which is the death of the soule be he accursed PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Zuinglius de Peccato orig to 2. f. 115. What could be saied Originall sinne is no sinne Not truely called sinne more breefly or clearly then that originall sinne is no sinne but a sicknesse Fol. 116. This is that I will that originall sinne is not truely called sinne but metonymically of the sinne committed of our first father fol. 115. What could be saied more weakly and more farre from Canonicall Scripture then that it is not a sicknesse but a guilt De Baptismo ibid. fol. 87. It followeth Not guilt No staine that litle ones or Infants are without all blemish or staine f. 90. Whence we gather that originall sinne is indeed a sicknesse which yet of it selfe is not faultie nor can cause the punishment of damnation Againe How can it be that what is a sicknesse and contagion deserueth the name of sinne or is sinne indeed And Respons ad Luther fol. 517. The summe of all which No sinne indeed Not such a sinne as hath fault Not properly sinne Maketh not guiltie of death I taught in my booke of originall sinne is this That originall contagion is not such a sinne that hath any fault but rather is a sicknesse which by reason of Adams sinne cleaueth vnto vs. Homius in Specimine c. art 15. bringeth many Protestants who denie originall sinne as Venator Originall sinne is not properly sinne nor deserueth damnation Arminius Originall sinne is fondly saied to make guiltie of death Borrius There is no reason why God would impute this sinne to Infants Beza de Praedestinat cont Castel vol 1. p. 421. thus writeth of Castellio whome D. Humfrey ad Ration 1. Campiani much commendeth for learning and honestie Out of which it may be easily gathred that ether thou accountest originall Originall sinne a fable sinne a fable or els doest so diminish it that what is by origin thou wouldst haue to be attributed to imitation Nether is Beza himselfe farre from the same opinion for 2. part resp ad acta Colloq Montisbel p. 103. he denieth that elected infants need any renouation Faber also and Erasmus whome Protestants challenge for theirs do denie originall sinne in Rom. 5. THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that all haue sinned in Adam that all die in Adam that by his disobedience manie are made sinners The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that originall sinne is no sinne but a sicknes not truely a fault but figuratiuely not a guilte not a blemish not a staine not faultie of it selfe that it can not cause damnation not such a sinne as hath fault not a sinne indeed nor deserueth the name of sinne THE SVMME OF THIS CHAPTER OF SINNES The things which we hau◠rehearsed in this chapter do make manifest that Protestants teach of sinnes quite contrarie to holie Scripture For the Scripture and Catholiks with it teacheth that sinnes are imputed to the faithfull that they are mortall to them as well as to others that they ought to be ouercomen of the faithfull that whosoeuer serue sinne serue not God that great sinnes putte out grace nor can stād with iustice that they are to be redeemed with good workes that to abstaine from them is necessarie to saluation that they are the cause why men are damned that we must giue an account of them that they are committed of the elect and that with full consent that vsurie is a sinne and that originall sinne is a true sinne All which Protestants do denie They make also manifest that Protestants play the What Protest take from sinnes theiues towards sinnes also and steale from them no lesse then from good things but that they steale from sinne other kind of qualities and for an other end For from God from Christ from Saintes from the Church from Sacraments from good workes and other godlie and holie things they steale that which is good vertuous and worthie of praise and honour that thereby they may not seeme so worthie to be loued and esteemed of men But from sinnes they steale malice all power of hurting the faithfull in saying they are not imputed to them cast not them out of Gods grace and such like now rehearsed to the end that they should not seeme so horrible and so much to be auoided of the faithfull And thereby they shew themselues to be freinds of sinne and precursors of him who is termed The man of sinne And thus much of 2. Thessal 2. Sinnes Now of Iustification from them CHAPTER XVI OF IVSTIFICATION ART I. WHETHER IVSTIFICATION be of workes SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. IAMES 2. v. 21. Abraham our father was he not Abraham iustified by workes Man Rahab iustified by workes vers 24. Do you see that by workes a man is iustified Et v. 25. Rahab the harlot was not she iustified by workes Luc. 7. v. 47. Manie sinnes are forgiuen her because she hath loued much Act. 3. vers 19. Be penitent therefore and conuert that your sinnes may be putte out CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Rom. 4. v. 2. Abrahams workes had glorie euen before God and he was iustified of then as S. Iames doth most expressely affirme PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Apologia Confess Augustanae c. de Iustif Reconciliation Reconciliation not by workes is not receaued by workes c. de Implet legis If anie thinke that he obtaineth remission of sinnes because
that by which he is iustified before God as if by onely faith we were iustified before God but yet that it were impossible to obtaine eternall saluation without workes cap. 4. in Epitome art We beleiue teach and confesse that good workes Workes wholy excluded from saltion are wholy to be excluded not onely when we treate of the iustification of faith but also when we dispute of our eternall saluation Againe We reiect and condemne these speeches Good workes are necessarie to saluation Zuinglius in Expostulat ad Lindouerum to 1. fol. 204. Faith alone saueth vs. Caluin in Rom. 10. v. 10. We are saued by faith alone In c. 1. v. 7. It is faith alone which bringeth euerlastingnesse of life Beza in Explicat Christianismi c. 8. vol. 1. pag. 199. Who Saluation relieth not vpon workes teach that mens saluation relieth vpon workes ether wholy or in some parte do plainely ouerturne all the Ghospell Pareus l. 4. de Iustif c. 4. The Ghospell promiseth saluation vnder the condition of faith alone Daneus Contr. de Baptismo c. 17. All the manner of our saluation purchased by Christ standeth in faith in him THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that faith alone can not saue vs. The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that faith alone saueth alone bringeth life that by faith onely we are saued that saluation is promised vpon conditiō of faith onely that workes concurre not to saluation worke nothing to saluation are not necessarie to saluation are not holesome ART IV. WHETHER ALL MEN BOTH good and badde be to be iudged SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Apoc. 20. v. 12. And I saw the dead great and litle standing Great and litle are to be be iudged in the sight of the throne and bookes were opened and an other booke was opened which was of life and the dead were iudged of those things which were written in the bookes according to their workes And the sea gaue the dead that were in it and death and Euerie one All. hell gaue their dead that were in them and it was iudged of euerie one according to their workes 2. Cor. 5. v. 10. For we must all be manifested before the iudgmēt Euerie one seat of Christ that euerie one may receaue the proper things of the bodie according as he hath done ether good or euill Mathew 25. vers 32. And all nations shal be gathered before All nations him and he shall seperate them one from an other as the pastour seperateth the sheepe from the goates Then shall the King say to them that shal be at his right hand Come ye blessed c. Then shall he say to them also that be at his left hand Goe ye away c. Act. 10. v. 43. It is he that of God was appointed iudge of the liuing and of the dead Hebr. 22. v. 22. But you are come to mount Sion and the cittie All. of the liuing God and the iudge of all God CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Catechismus ad Parochos in Exposit Symboli Of which article that is the sense and meaning that in the last day Christ our Lord shall iudg all mankind PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther apud Scioppium in suo Ecclesiast c. 5. Christians Onely infidell know that onely infidels who will not receaue the Ghospell are to be iudged of Christ in the last day Let vs learne and note this Not the faithfull well that we feare not death and the last iudgment for Christ is not to come to iudge vs but he will iudge them who beleiue not Bullinger Concione 90. in Apoc. f. 163. The impious are Impious not the pious to be iudged but not the pious The good because they are iustified and absolued appeare in iudgment with glorie to iudge after their manner and fashiō the wicked but not to be iudged of anie Tilenus in Syntagmate c. 67. The elect do know that nether Not the elect their deeds nor all their words are to be called to the account of this iudgment The like say others as we haue shewed before c. 3. art 10. THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that all the dead shal be iudged according to their workes that all must be manifested before the tribunall of Christ that all Nations shal be gathered to Christs iudgment that Christ is iudge of the quicke and the dead that God is iudge of all The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that the impious are to be iudged but not the pious that the good are not to be iudged of anie that onely infidels shal be iudged ART V. WHETHER THERE BE ANIE to whome seeking eternall glorie according to patience of good workes euerlasting life is rendred SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Roman 2. vers 6. and 7. Who will render to euerie man There are some such according to his workes to them truely that according to patience in good worke seeke glorie and honour and incorruption life eternall CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Rom. 2. v. 6. cit If Christ alone shall bring those workes to which the Apostle here saieth that eternall life is rēdred he should not haue saied He will render to euerie one according to his workes but to euerie one according to Christs workes PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Beza in Rom. 2. v. 6. What is here saied of Sophisters as if There are no such anie out of Christ or regenerate in Christ are found such in the iudgment of God as these here are described doth varie much frō the scope of the Apostle For that surely is most absurd Or as he hath in edition of 1565. Shall anie man bring these workes to which the Apostle saieth that life eternall shal be rendred Ether men not regenerate or the sonnes of God But nether Abraham surely hath whereof to glorie before God THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that there are some to whome seeking glorie according to patience of good workes eternall life is rendred The same say Catholiks Protestāts plainely say that there are no men to whome life eternall is rendred according to their workes nor that there are anie workes to which eternall life is rendred ART VI. WHETHER THE SOVLES OF reprobates departed this life do now suffer the paines of hell SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Iude. v. 7. As Sodome and Gomorrha and the citties adioyning Sodomites in eternall fire in like manner hauing fornicated and going after an other flesh were made an example sustaining the paine of eternall fire Luc. 16. vers 22. And the rich man also dead and he was Diues in torments buried in hell And lifting vp his eyes when he was in torments c. Numbers 16. ver 33. And they went downe into hell quicke couered with the ground Are in hell CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME S. Thomas Suplement q. 69. art 2. As soone as the soule is loosed from the bodie ether it is cast into hell or mounteth to heauen vnlesse it be hindred
ANIE HAVE loued or followed God in all their hartes SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Deut. 30. v. 6. Our Lord thy God will circuncise thy hart and God will make vs to loue him in all our hart Dauid did so the hart of thy seed that thou maiest loue our Lord thy God in all thy hart and in all thy soule that thou maiest liue 3. Reg. 14. vers 8. Thou hast not beene as my seruant Dauid who kept my commandments and followed me in all his hart doing that which was well liked in my sight 3. Reg. 8. v. 23. Lord God of Israel who keepest couenant and mercie with thy seruants that walke before thee in all their hart 4. Reg. 23. v. 25. There was no king before him Iosias like Iosias followed God in all his hart to him who returned to our Lord in all his hart and in all his soule and in all his power according to all the law of Moises Daniel 3. 41. Azarias thus praieth And now we follow thee Also Azarias in all our hart and feare thee and seeke thy face Psal 118. v. 10. With my whole hart I haue sought after thee And Dauid CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm. l. 1. de Amiss Gratiae c. 12. Luke writeth of Zacharias and Elizabeth that they walked in all the commandmēts and iustifications of our Lord nether would they be saied to haue walked in all the commandments who had neglected the first and greatest which is of louing God with all the hart PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE The Apologie of the Confession of Auspurg c. de Resp ad Argumenta No man feareth so much loueth God so much beleiueth God so much as he ought Luther in Gal. 5. to 5. f. 417. Thou shalt not find one on earth who so loueth God and his neighbour as the law requireth Postilla None can loue God in all his hart in Dom. 10. post Trinit f. 315. He requireth that we loue him with all our hart which no mortall man can performe Brentius homilia 1. in Dom. 13. post Trinit None was euer found amongst the Saintes who loued God perfectly with all his soule Caluin 2. Instit c. 7. § 5. I say there was no Saint who whilest No Saint euer loued God in all his hart he was in this mortall life attained to that hight of loue that he loued God with all his soule with all his hart with all his power Pareus l. 4 de Iustif c. 11. Such loue of all his soule none of the Saintes had or can haue in this infirmitie Daneus Contr. 5. p. 973. That this precept Thou shalt loue God c. can be fulfilled both vnder the ould and the new testament and that God promised it Deuter. 10. v. 12. 30. v. 6. Hier. 24. v. 7. is most false THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that God will make the faithfull to loue him with all their hart that the three children followed God in all their hart that Dauid sought God in all his hart that God vseth mercie to them who walke before him in all their hartes that Iosias returned to God in all his hart in all his soule in all his power and according to all the law of Moises The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that there is not one who loueth God so as the law requireth that no Saint loued God with all his hart that no Saint euer had the loue God in all his hart ART IV. WHETHER GODS LAW BE in the hartes of anie SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Hierem. 31. v. 33. I will giue my law in their bowels and in their Gods law in the hart of some hart I will write it Psal 36. 31. The law of God in his hart Deut. 30. v. 14. But the word is very neare thee in thy hart and in thy mouth to doe it The same Rom. 10. v. 6. CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Rom. 10. vers 6. The Scripture here saieth plainely The word is neare that is the commandment of the law to doe it This is not true saieth the Heretike and the word of the law or the cōmandment of the law is not properly in our hart PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Caluin in Rom. 10. v. 6. Euen after regeneration the word Gods law in the hart of none of the law cannot be properly saied to be in our hart because it requireth perfection frō which the faithfull themselues are farre of The same say others who teach that the law is impossible For if it be impossible it is not in our hartes THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that Gods law is in our bowels is written in our hartes is in the harts of some The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that the law of God is not properly in the hart of anie ART V. WHETHER WE PRAY THAT we may fulfill Gods law SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Math. 6. v. 10. Thy will be done in earth as it is in heauen We pray to fulfill Gods law CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm. l. 1. de bonis operibus in part cap. 6. We pray that Gods helpe and grace be giuen vs whereby we may and will fulfill Gods commandments PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Perkins in Gal. 3. to 2. col 135. We do not pray that we may We pray not so fulfill the law but that we may endeauour according to our strēght to fulfill it Caluin in Math. 10. v. 6. It sufficeth that with desire we testifie that we hate whatsoeuer is against the will of God In like sorte Daneus in orat Dom. and others who teach that it is impossible to fulfill the law For no man praieth for that which he knoweth to be impossible THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely biddeth vs pray that Gods will be done in earth as it in heauen where doubtles it is fulfilled The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that we do not pray that we fulfill Gods law that it sufficeth to testifie that we hate what is contrarie to Gods law Which is so contrarie to Scripture as sometimes Protestants themselues confesse it See lib. 2. c. 30. ART VI. WHETHER THE KEEPING OF the law be necessarie to saluation SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Math. 19. v. 17. If thou wilt enter into life keepe the commandments Keeping of the law necessarie to saluation Ioan. 15. ver 10. If you keepe my precepts you shall abide in my loue CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D Stapleton in Math. 19. v. 17. This doctrine of Christ doth manifestly shew that the keeping of Gods commandments is necessarie to euerlasting life PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther in Galat. 2. tom 5. f. 311. The Papists teach Faith in Not necessarie Christ iustifieth but with all the commandments of God must be kept because the Scripture saieth If thou wilt enter c. There Christ is streight denied and abolished Caluin in Math. 19. ver 17. This answere of Christ is legall That none is accounted iust before God vnlesse he
morall matters fallen If thou doest well shalt thou not receaue againe but if thou doest ill shall not thy sinne forthwith be present at thy dore But the lust thereof shal be vnder thee and thou shalt haue dominion ouer it Iosue 24. v. 15. Chuse this day that which pleaseth you whome We haue choice in morall matters you ought especially to serue ver 22. You are witnesses that your selues haue chosen to you our Lord for to serue him Eccles 15. ver 18. Before man there is life and death good and Some could sinne and did not euill what pleaseth him that shall be giuen him c. 31. v. 10. He that could transgresse and hath not transgressed and do euils and hath not done Philemon ver 14. But without thy counsaill I would do nothing Voluntarie and not of necessitie that thy good might not be as it were of necessitie but voluntarie The like is 1. Corint 7. vers 37. cited in the former article CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm l. 5. de Grat. lib. arbit c. 14. Orthodoxall trueth teacheth that man in state of corrupted nature is indued with free will in morall matters PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Whitaker Contr. 2. q. 5. c. 7. p. 515. Luther and Caluin grant Mans will not free to good mans will to be free to sinne and ill doing but not to good p. 517. It is the Pelagian heresie That man after his fall hath anie libertie left to good The like hath Morton l. 1. Apologiae c. 30. Luther de seruo arbit to 2. fol. 460. If here could be anie change or freedome of will in Pharao to both partes God could not haue so certainely haue foretould his induration Which No free will to good could not be vnlesse induration were wholy beyond the power of man and onely in Gods power Resp ad Artic. Louan fo 504. There is no feee will to good Caluin 2. Instit c. 3. § 10. God moueth the will not as it hath Not in our power to obey or resist beene taught and beleiued these manie ages that afterward it is in our choice ether to obey or resist the motion but by working it effectually We must cast away that saying of Chrysostome whome he draweth he draweth willing Which he repeateth in Ioan. 6. vers 44. Pareus l. 5. de Grat. c. 29. p. 919. Who want iustice are not free to iustice but to iniustice nor to good but onely to ill Piscator in Thesibus pag. 423. A man in sinne hath no free will to good but onely to ill Thus teach they of mans will to good of the same towards ill this they say Caluin 2. Institut c. 3. § 5. I maruaile if any thinke it a harsh Man is of necessitie drawne to ill speach that I say mans will hauing lost libertie is by necessitie drawne or led to euill Et § A carnall man necessarily obeyeth euerie draught of Sathan The same he hath c. 5. § 1 Daneus Contr. 6. p. 1224. That sinnes are not the acts of Sinne is not the act of a free will free will is false They are the acts of our owne accord but not of free will Vallada in Apologia c. 20. Who can denie this necessitie of sinning in a man not regenerate The same teach others as hath beene shewed before c. 2. art 8. THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that the lust of sinne is vnder a man that as it pleaseth him good or euill shal be giuen to him that he hath choice whome he will serue that some thing is voluntarie to him and not necessarie that he could haue sinned and yet did not The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that there is no free will to good no freedome to both partes that it is not in our choice to obey or resist that by necessitie we are drawne to ill that sinne is not an act of free will but onely of our owne accord Which is so contrarie to Scripture as some Protestants confesse it See lib. 2. c. 30. ART III. WHETHER MANS WILL cooperate with Gods grace to good actes SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. 1. Cor. 3. v. 9. For we are Gods coadiutors c. 15. ver 10. I haue We are Gods coadiutors laboured more abundantly then all they yet not I the grace of God with me Math. 25. v. 20. Lord fiue talents thou didst deliuer me behould We gaine more with Gods grace I haue gained other fiue besides CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent Sess 6. Con. 4. If anie shall say that mans free will moued and stirred vp of God doth cooperate nothing by assenting to God mouing and calling be he accursed PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther in psalm 5. to 3. fol. 174. It is an error that free will Free will worketh not in good hath anie actiuitie in a good worke when we speake of an inward worke Zuinglius in Explanat art 20. The Papists make God the We are not Gods coadiutors first and chiefe cause of all goodnesse and vs cooperatours which is craftily to withdraw themselues from God Caluin 2. Institut cap. 3. § 12. The Apostle saieth not that Gods grace laboured with him to make himselfe fellow of the labour but rather giueth the whole praise of the labour to grace alone § 6. We see that not content to haue giuen simply the praise of our conuersion to God he excludeth vs expressely from all fellowshippe THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that we are Gods coadiutors that Gods grace laboureth with vs that we gaine ouer that which was giuen vs. The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that we are not coadiutors of labour that we are not Gods coadiutors that we haue no fellowshippe of the labour THE SVMME OF THIS CHAPTER of Free will That which we haue rehearsed in this chapter plainely declareth that Protestants teach farre otherwise of free will then the holie Scripture doth For that Scripture and Catholiks with it teacheth that man hath free will in indifferent matters and in morall both good and badde and that he cooperateth with Gods grace to good All which Protestants denie It sheweth also that as Protestants haue stoallen from God from Christ from Saints from the Church and other things spoaken of before so also they steale from man that which is the most excellent thing in him to wit free will or dominion ouer his owne acts and make him a slaue and like to beasts CHAPTER XXI OF MANS SOVLE ART I. WHETHER MANS SOVLE BE immortall SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. MATH 10. ver 28. Feare ye not them who kill the Soule of man cannot be killed bodie and are not able to kill to soule c. 22. ve 32. He is not the God of the dead but of the liuing Ioan. 11. ver 26. Euerie one that liueth and beleiueth Shall not die in me shall not die for euer Eccles 12. v. 7. And the spirit returneth to God who gaue it Returnet
and Luther in Galat. 1. fol. 215. The Confession of Zwizerland addeth that they were holie Churches of God Author Respons ad theses Vadimont pag. 533. affirmeth that they fell not from true faith And Perkins tractat de Baptismo col 819. auoucheth that they were the sonnes of God But if they who denied the resurrection kept the name of a true Church remained the sonnes of God were not excluded from Gods mercie fell not from faith surely ether the resurrection is no article at all of faith or not necessarie ether to grace or saluation THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely teacheth that there shal be resurrection of the dead and that the contrarie doctrine denieth Christs resurrection and ouerthroweth all Christian faith The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely teach that the more wittie the Gentils were the more they laughed at the resurrection that the more learned men now are the more they thinke the resurrection to be a fable that Luther and Erasmus were not free from this leauen and that in this matter a faithfull soule is rare that Schegkius openly denied resurrection of this bodie which is indeed to denie all resurrection seing resurrection is not but of the same which died and yet was condemned of no Protestants yea excused of some that manie of them both drunke and sober let fall such speaches from them as do shew that they beleiue not the resurrection of the dead That amongst the Sacramentaries two principall Apostles Caluin and Farel did not beleiue the resurrection of this flesh and consequently not the resurrection of the dead that Sozinus was not satisfied about the resurrection of the flesh that manie of them denie the resurrection of the blood and lasty that they auouch that those Christians who denied the resurrection of the dead fell not from true faith not from the Church or fauour of God THE SVMME OF THIS CHAPTER of mans Soule What we haue rehearsed in this chapter plainely sheweth that Protestants thinke farre otherwise of mans soule then the holie Scripture doth For the Scripture and Catholiks with it teacheth that the soule of man is the forme of the bodie is immortall that there shal be resurrection of the dead which Protestants denie It sheweth also that Protestants play the theiues towards their owne soules whilest take from it immortalitie and the nature of the forme of the bodie and denie the resurrectioÌ„ of the dead And hitherto we haue shewed that Protestants in 260. articles contradict the expresse words of the holie Scripture it remaineth that we shew that they also contradict the true sense of the words which we will doe by twoe wayes the one by generall reasons the other by the plaine confession of The Scope of the second booke some Protestants touching manie of the foresaied articles End of the first booke THE SECOND BOOKE IN WHICH IT IS SHEVVED THAT PROTESTANTS CONTRADICT THE TRVE sense of holie Scripture CHAPTER I. THAT PROTESTANTS CONTRADICT the true sense of Scripture because in so manie things they gainsay the expresse words thereof FIRST of all we must consider that when the holie Scripture and Catholiks both of purpose intend clearely to declare their meaning touching the foresaied 260. articles in controuersie they do iumpe ether in the very selfe same or inequiualent words and that coÌ„trariwise wheÌ„ the Scripture and the learnedest of the Protestants intend to expresse their meaning coÌ„cerning the saied articles they vse quite opposite and contrarie speaches Which is a manifest signe that the Catholiks doctrine about the saied articles is the selfe same with the doctrine of the holie Scripture and the Protestants doctrine quite contrarie thereunto For sithence this agreemeÌ„t of Catholiks with the Scripture in words and speach and disagreement of Protestants in the same falleth out so often and in so manie and weightie matters it cannot be attributed to chaÌ„ce because chaÌ„ce as the Philosophers 2. Physâ—c teach is in those things onely which fall out seldome And therefore it proceedeth of the nature of these sentences or doctrines whose agreement or disagreement with the sentence of the holie Scripture breedeth this so frequent agreement or disagreement with the words or speaches of the same Wherefore thus I argue in forme of syllogisme These doctrines which when they are of purpose to be expressed clearely distinctly and as they differ from all other doctrines do of their nature require to be expressed with the very same or equiualent words are in deed one and the selfe same doctrine And contrariwise those doctrines which when they are to be so expressed of their nature require to be expressed with quite opposite and contrarie words or speaches are in deed opposite and contrarie doctrines But the Scriptures and the Catholiks doctrines touching the foresaied 260. articles are of the first kind and the Scripture and Protestants doctrines of the second Therefore they are all one and these quite contrarie The Maior of first propositioÌ„ is euideÌ„t For how could twoe doctrines or opinioÌ„s of their nature require to be expressed with the selfe same or equiualent words if there were any differeÌ„ce betwene them For vndoubtely that difference would exact some difference in the words and those words which clearely and fully expresse the one doctrine could not clearely and fully expresse the other And much lesse could one the selfe same speach clearely expressely theÌ„ both if they were contrarie one to the other And therefore certaine it is that twoe coÌ„trarie doctrines cannot of their nature require to be expressed by the selfe same or equiualent words And consequently also it is most certaine that the Scriptures and Catholiks doctrines which touching these 260. articles of their nature require to be expressed with the selfe same or equiualent words are not opposite one to the other But those doctrines which when they are to be clearely and distinctly expressed of their nature require to be expressed with opposite and contrarie speeches must needs also of their nature be contrarie one to the other For els why should they of their nature require to be expressed by contrarie speaches And the opposition which is betwene the speaches wherewith they require to be signified riseth of the oppositioÌ„ which is betwene the doctrines themselues The Minor or second proposition is proued First by the reason alreadie made Because it cannot come by chance that in so manie and so weightie matters when Catholiks and ProtestaÌ„ts do of purpose clearely distinctly expresse their opinioÌ„s those should agree in words and speach with the holie Scripture and these should disagree This agreement therefore and disagreement in words must needs rise of the very nature of their opinions Secondly it may be proued by examples but for breuities sake I will be content with one That the Protestants opinion touching the Eucharist or that which Christ after his last supper gaue with his hands to be eaten when it is clearely and dinstinctly to be expressed as it differreth from the
de Subsidio tom 2. fol. 253. of which corruption of Scripture thus writeth Illyricus vpon this place Some corrupt this text by translating The Cuppe of thanks giuing by which we giue thanks and the text so corrupted they vse in their liturgies in steed of the words of the Institution or holie supper making a duble sacriledge Caluin also in Math. 26. ver 26. not onely expoundeth the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 by He gaue thāks but also in the very text translateth it when he had giuen thanks And yet as himselfe confesseth there Mathew and Marke vse the word of Blessing Why therefore would not he vse the same word in S. Mathews text Because those words Acts 2. v. 27. Because thou wilt not They change leaue my soule in hell proue that Christs soule descended into hel Beza in his translation An. 1557. thus changeth the text Because thou wilt not leaue my carcasse in the graue Et ad Defens Castell p. 460. he saieth My soule in the text I did translate My carcasse but in my Notes My life but we may also take My soule in steed of the Pronoune Me. Which exposition saieth he is most plaine And he addeth Where as I noted that by the ancient translation my soule the error rose I did it not without cause sith we see that Papists wrest this place especially for to setle their Limbus and the Fathers from thence deuised that descent of Christ soule into hell As if he had saied I was forced to alter the tongue of the holie Ghost because he spoake against me In like sorte because we proue the same out of that passage Act. 2. v. 3◠Foreseing he spoake of the resurrection of Christ for nether was he left in hell c. the French Bibles An. 1562. 1567. 1568. 1605. of Hell haue made Graue as also hath Tremellius done in his Latin translation of the Bible neuewed by Iunius printed at Hannow 1603. Because those words Psalm 5. verss 5. Thou art not a God They change that wilt iniquitie proue that God no way willeth iniquitie or sinne the Kings Bible translateth the place thus That hath pleasure in wickednesse The French Bibles An. 1568. That loueth iniquitie And those of 1588. and 1610. That art not delighted with iniquitie And the like hath Piscator apud Vorstium in Parasceue cap. 3. and Tremellius in this place That so they may defēd their blasphemous doctrine that God willeth iniquitie though he do not loue it Because these words Ezechiel 33. vers 11. Liue I sayeth They change our Lord I will not the death of the wicked but that he be conuerted from his way and liue do proue that God of himselfe willeth no mans death the Kings Bible translateth them thus I haue no pleasure in the death c. and so also doth Musculus in locis tit de veritate Tremellius in this place Piscator in Thesibus l. 2. p. 187. and others That God may seeme of himselfe to will mens death though he take not pleasure in it as say they a sicke man willeth a bitter potion though he take no delighte in it Because the words 2. Thessalon 2. v. 15. Hould the traditions They change which yee haue learnt whether it be by word or by our Epistle do proue that traditions not written are as well to be held as those that are written Beza in his translation An. 1598. changeth the disiunctiue particle whether into the coniunctiue Also in this manner Hould the traditions which yee haue learnt by speach and also by our Epistle Whome follow Author Respons ad Theses Vadimontanas pag. 647. and others An other translation of Beza in Tremellius hath thus Hould the deliuered doctrine which you haue beene taught both by speach and by Epistle Where for whether he hath And and for Traditions Deliuered doctrine as Tremellius for Traditions hath Commandments The French An. 1568. and 1605. haue Institutions and the Queens Bible hath Ordinances Because those words 1. Timoth. 2. v. 4. Who will all men They change to be saued shew that God hath a will to saue all men Beza in that place changeth All into whomsoeuer that God may seeme to haue onely a will to saue whatsoeuer kinde of men In like sorte ib. v. 6. Where the Scripture saieth Who gaue himselfe a redemption for all Beza translateth For whomsoeuer Because that speach 1. Timoth. 4. v. 10. Who is the Saniour They change of all men especially of the faithfull declare that Christ redeemed all men Beza in that place in steed of Sauiour putteth Preseruer And saieth Because the name of Sauiour troubleth manie in that commonly it signifieth eternall life purchased by Christ therefore to auoid ambiguitie I chose rather to say Preseruer As if he had saied Because the word which the Scripture vseth doth shew that Christ purchased eternall life for all therefore I haue changed it for an other Because those words Coloss 1. v. 10. That yee may walke They change worthie of God and 1. Thessalon 2. v. 11. We haue adiured euerie one of you that you walke worthie of God and 3. Epistle of 5. Ihon. v. 6. Whome thou shalt doe well bringing on their way in manner worthie of God do shew that good workes may be worthie of God Beza in all these places for worthie of God hath Agreable to God Tremellius 1. Coloss v. 10. for worthie of God hath It is iust and 1. Thessal 2. It is agreable to God The Kings Bible 3. Ioan. 6. cit hath After a godlie sorte Because Christs words Lucae 7. ver 47. Manie sinnes are They change forgiuen her because she hath loued much insinuate iustification by workes Beza in place of Because in Greek 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 translateth For. And addeth that he did so that it might be more easily perceaued that in these words is not shewed the cause of remission of sinnes The Kings Bible Illyricus and others follow Beza herein Because those words of S. Luke c. 1. v. 6. They were both They translate ill iust before God walking in all the commandements and iustifications of our Lord without blame helpe to proue that good workes are iustifications and do iustifie Beza though he confesse that the Greek word which S. Luke vseth be to be literally translated Iustifications Yet saieth that he would not so interprete it that saieth he I might take away this occasion of impugning iustification by onely faith and so in steed of Iustifications hath Rites Tremellius hath Righteousnesse Queen Elizabeths and King Iames Bible ordinances Because those words Philip. 2. v. 12. Worke your saluation Translate ill with feare and trembling proue that we may worke our saluation The French Bibles An. 1562. 1568. 1605. 1610. in steed of worke haue Endeauour you that the Scripture may seeme onely to say that we may endeauour to worke but not worke our saluation Because those words Iames 5. v. 16. Confesse
power of death Albeit Soule 1. Dead bodie Hell 1. Graue nothing hindreth by Soule to vnderstand synechdochically the very bodie and that also dead and to take the name of Hell for the Graue Expositions by quite contraries They expound also the words of the holie Scripture by quite coÌ„traries For touching faith wheÌ„ S. Iames c. 2. saieth that a man is not iustified by faith onely they say he meaneth not of faith but onely of a shaddow or dead image of faith So Faiâ—b 1. Not faith Zuinglius Caluin Beza vpon that place Luther in Postilla in Dom. 9. post Trinit Bucer in Math. 8. Whitaker l. 1. coÌ„t Beleiue 1. Deceaue themselues and others Dur. sect 13. others In like sorte the word Beleiue in that Luc. 7. v. 13. They beleiue for a time with them signifieth not to beleiue but to deceaue mens eyes and their owne mynd with a deceitfull shew of faith So Caluin 2. Instit c. 2. § 10. Where he calleth this beleife a shaddow and shew of faith and saieth that it is of no reckoning and vnworthie of the name of faith When S. Ihon. 12. ver 23. saieth Manie beleiued in his name Caluin ibidem thus expoundeth him Their faith was preposterous It is euident that their faith was not true and lawfull Luther in Postil in Dom. Quinquagues saieth that when S. Paul 1. Corinth 13. Writeth If I haue all faith c. he doth not speake of Christian faith In like sorte To be illuminated To taste the heauenlie guift and to be made partaker of the holie Ghost Hebr. 6. vers 4. according to them is not to haue true light or the holie Ghost but onely to haue some such thing So Caluin 3. Instit c. 2. § 11. and. 12. and Heb. loc cit ibique Beza and others Moreouer faith to be consummated by workes Iac. 2. v. 22. in their opinion is not to be consummated or perfect by Perfected 1. Not perfected workes but to be tried to be such Caluin ibid. It is saied to be perfected by workes not that it taketh thence perfection but be cause it is proued to be true thereby Finally when Christ Ioan. 6. calleth faith a worke Zuinglius l. de relig c. de orat expoundeth Worke. 1. No worke him So he calleth it a worke as by the contrarie sense he would say yee shal be made happie by faith and by no worke And in this sorte they depraue all those places of the holie Scripture which teach that the euil or reprobates do beleiue are illuminated doe repent and the like Touching workes they denie that To worke in that 2. Cor. Touching workes 7. v. 10. Sorrow according to God worketh pennance stabill to saluation signifieth not To Cause but onely to goe before saluatioÌ„ Caluin ib. For he inquireth not of the cause of saluatioÌ„ but onely coÌ„mending pennaÌ„ce as a fruite which it worketh saieth that it is like a way by which we come to saluatioÌ„ Likewise worke your saluatioÌ„ Phil. 2. with theÌ„ doth not coÌ„mand vs to worke our saluatioÌ„ but onely to doe those things which become theÌ„ that are to be saued For thus Zuinglius vpon that place For Paul in this place commandeth not to doe good works that we may get saluatioÌ„ by theÌ„ but that we may doe those things which become the childreÌ„ of God who are saued by faith WheÌ„ the Scripture saieth Feare of God expelleth sinne Almes purgeth sinne expelleth sinne By mercie sinnes are purged Kemnice in locis part 2. de arg answereth It speaketh not of propitiation or satisfactioÌ„ for sinne but saieth that sinnes are auoided eschewed So that to expell to purge to extinguish sinne is not to purge sinnes already coÌ„mitted but onely to beware of coÌ„mitting theÌ„ To be doers of the word Iac. 1. v. 22. in their opinioÌ„ is not to be doers of the word but hartely to embrace it Caluin ib. A doer here doth not signifie him who satisfieth the law and fulfilleth it in all points but who hartely embraceth the word of God by his life in earnest witnesseth that he beleiueth Perfect charitie 1. IoaÌ„ 2. v. 5. With theÌ„ is not perfect but true Beza ib. It is not inquired in this place who loueth God perfectly but who loueth him truely To doe the will of God 1. IoaÌ„ 2. v. 17. according to theÌ„ is not to doe but to beleiue Caluin ib. If anie obiect that done what God coÌ„mandeth the answere is at hand that here is no speach of the absolute keeping of the law but of the obedience of faith In like sorte Doe this Luc. 10. v. 28. With them is not to doe but to beleiue Luther in Gal. 3. to 5. p. 345. The meaning of this place Doe this and thou shalt liue is this Thou shalt liue for this faithfull doing or this doing shall giue the life for onely faith In this sorte iustification is attributed to onely faith as creation is to the Godhead Weomen in those words Apoc. 14. v. 4. These are those who were not defiled Weomen 1. not weomen but idols with weomen according to their mynd signifieth not weomen but idols Tilenus in Syntagm cap. 47. It is not meant of carnall copulation with weomen but of spirituall whoredome with idols Forsooth least virginitie might be thought to haue a speciall reward in heauen Iust and Iustice Ezech. 18. vers 14. When the iust shall turne himselfe from his iustice with these men signifieth not iust nor iustice Pareus lib. 3. de Iustif cap. 14. My aduersarie wrongfully wresteth this Scripture from temporally iust to truely iust They doe Rom. 2. v. 14. those things which are of the law is not meant of doing but of commanding Beza ib. edit 1565. That is they command honest things and forbidde dishonest For Paul speaketh not this of the obseruation of the law but onely of that maÌ„ner which euen profane people followed in making laws Touching sinnes Iniquitie in those words Prouerb 16. Touching sinne Iniquitie 1. not iniquitie vers 6. Iniquitie is redeemed by mercie and trueth with these men is not iniquitie or sinne but temporall punishment Kemnice in locis part 2. tit de Argum. Mercie is an expiation not of sinne but of temporall punishment Sinnes to be takeÌ„ away 1. Ioan. 1. vers 29. is not to be taken away but onely not to be imputed Caluin ibid. Albeit sinne do perpetually stick in vs yet in Gods iudgement it is none because being abolished by Christs grace it is not imputed In like sorte To be blotted out like a mist Esaiae 44. is not to be blotted out but to be not imputed Bidenbachius in Consensu c. p. 724. Our sinnes are saied to be blotted out as a mist to be cast behind the back and to be drowned in the depth of the sea not as if they were no more but because they are not imputed to the beleiuer Touching Iustification Grossius in Apol. pro Disput Touching