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B20672 Truths testimony and a testimony of truths appearing in power, life, light & glory, creating, manifesting, increasing, and vindicating itself in the midst of persecution : wherein is discovered what truth is, and also a lye, who knows it and lives in it : with the authors call and conversion to the truth, his practice in it, his publishing of it, and his several tryals for the same ... : together with the particular accusations brought against him in each tryal and his answers to the same, and also the courts proceedings both by judges and juries : with an humble appeal to His Highness, Oliver, Lord Protector, as a general redress for all people / by Richard Coppin. Coppin, Richard, fl. 1646-1659. 1655 (1655) Wing C6105 74,193 93

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the Act to be read to them and bid them take notice of it yet they could not tell what crime I was guilty of but still said according to the Evidence then the Iudge asked them what the Evidence was and they could not declare it tell they were told it and now how unfit these men are to be made a Iury of such things let all men that hear it take notice Then the Iudge as before perceiving their ignorance shewed them how it came not within the compass of the Act and therefore ought not to be found then said the Iury we will referr it to you Nay said the Iudge I must have your verdict Not guilty then said some of the Iury others said guilty what are you divided said the Iudge I will not receive your verdict till you are agreed and unless you will agree upon it you shall be shut up together in one room all night where you shall have neither bread nor beer fire nor candle But when they heard this they began to murmur within themselves why they should not agree yet the ●udge willing to shew them favour did only rebuke them bidding them to bring in their verdict the next morning by eight of the clock upon pain of twenty pound a piece and where I was then also my self to appear and there according to the request of the Judge I was to give in the heads of my answer in writing which then did and it was there read to the satisfaction of the Court. Then the Jury being again called before they gave in their Verdict used the name or one Veysie of Tainton neer Burford which said they desires to be a witness against him for saying that Christ was the cause of Cains fall No said the Judge ● will hear no such malitious fellows but will keep close to the ●ndictment and you of the Jury are to mention none but to give in your Verdict then said they guilty Now the Judge well knowing the Law and how that those things came not within the compass of it also perceiving the malice of my accusers and the ignorance of the Jury in such things as was then manifested and himself willing to do justice took bayl for my appearance at the next Assizes at which my accusers began to fall mad crying out again for my imprisonment banishment or silencing but the Judge told them he could do neither but must go according to the Law and the Law did not require any such thing Then my accusers to lay another foundation again to ensnare me having missed the former presented to the Judge a paper wherein were many particular points of their own judgement that he should prevail upon me to set my hand to it as that which I would own for truth thereby to confirm theirs I never more to preach against the same but this being offered to me I refused it and desired not to set my hand to other mens writings but to what I write my self unless I may read it and also find it to be truth according to the Scripture and my apprehension then said the Judge in the presence of my accusers take it and read it which I did and gave it to the Iudge again and because my accusers with others reported that I set my hand to all that they had writ as a recantation of what my self formerly writ and declared therefore for the satisfaction of other people the proving of them lyers and clearing my self in it it is here published both what they writ and also what part thereof I refused and what I signed distinctly as followeth A Paper written by my Accusers and presented to the Judge for me to sign which I would not WHereas at several passages in a printed book that goes forth in my name and in a publike discovery at Enston about Iune last several persons have been offended and been induced to believe that I am guilty of holding and publishing blasphemous opinions for the satisfying all such persons and clearing my self I do heartily and sincerely profess and declare against them as follows First That Jesus Christ the only begotten Son of God being eternal God and equal with the Father did in the fulness of time take to himself mans nature yet without sin being holy harmless undefiled as the Scripture saith Secondly The Lord Iesus Christ for discharging the office of Mediatorship whereunto he was called by his Father did perfectly fulfill the Law indured the shameful and cursed death of the cross but not for himself being perfectly free from sin but that he might satisfie for the sins of his people Thirdly The third day he rose from the dead with the same body with which he suffered with which also he ascended into heaven and there sitteth at the right hand of his Father Fourthly The bodies of men after death return to dust but their souls which die not return to God who gave them the souls of the righteous are received into the highest heaven where they enjoy God in glory waiting for the full redemption of their bodies and the souls of the wicked are cast into hell where they remain in torment reserved to the Iudgement of the great day Fifthly At the last day such as are found alive shall be changed and all that are dead shall be raised up with the same body which shall be united again to their souls for ever Sixthly God hath appointed a day wherein he will judge the world in righteousness by Jesus Christ in which day the Apostles and Angels shall be judged and all persons that have lived upon the earth shall appear before the Tribunal of Christ to give an account of their thoughts words and deeds and to receive according to what they have done in their bodies whether good or evil These things I believe and do not publish any thing contrary to them and for any passages that have fell from me contrary to these ignorantly inconsiderately or wilfully I do profess my self troubled at and ashamed of but this I excepted against and would not set my hand unto as follows My Lord there are some things which I may set my hand unto but there are some things that are false and I shall not set my hand to that unless they will here make it good by Scripture before this honourable Court Then said the Judge to me What is that you say is false which you except against Answ My Lord ●irst wherein they say several passages have been written and spoken by me to the inducement of several persons to believe that I am guilty of holding and publishing blasphemous opinions which they would now have me to declare against and profess my self ashamed of when I know nothing that ever I spoke or writ since the time of my call that I went forth to declare any thing of God that was so or ever could be proved blasphemy by them though they have endeavoured to do it therefore not to be declared against by me
My Lord Another thing in the fifth particular which they declare as their judgement is that the same body which dyes shall after death be so raised again and united to the soul for ever which thing is false my Lord and I know no Scripture to prove it if there be let them produce it for here they are Then the Judge looking upon them asked if there were no such Scripture but they were silent and answered not a word then Justice Jenkins who sate upon the bench undertook to answer for them and said there is such a Scripture produce it you then said I and let me see it or I shall not believe it but he was silent also and there was no man to be found that could shew that Scripture then I instanced a Scripture in the 1 Cor. 15. to the contrar● that the same body was not to rise again but God giveth it a body as pleaseth him which body none of them yet knew Then the Judge perceiving that those things which by them were written and by me excepted against could not by them nor any other be proved he commanded them to be crossed forth before their faces and they had nothing to say for themselves which was to the great shame and disgrace of my accusers and others of their tribe that those things which they have so long held forth and maintained to the people for truth and as their judgments that this should now be crossed out before their faces as an error sure as bad a thing as ever they could have done against themselves in things of that nature which makes it to appear that the greatest blasphemer cryed blasphemy first and these things being crossed out I set my hand to the rest which is as follows and which to my knowledge I never declared any thing contrar● to according to the Scriptures and in a spiritual sense in which sense we are to understand all things of that nature The part culars which I signed FIrst that Iesus Christ the only begotten son of God being eternal God and equal with the Father did in the fulness of time take to himself mans nature yet without sin being holy harmless undefiled as the scripture saith Secondly The Lord sesus Christ for discharging the office of Med●atorship whereunto he was called by his Father did perfectly fulfill the Law endured the shameful and cursed death of the cross but not for himself being as he was perfectly free from sin but that he might satisfie for the sin of his people Thirdly The third day he rose from the dead with the same body with which he suffered with which also he ascended into heaven 1 Cor. 15. and there sitteth at the right hand of his Father but not with flesh and blood Fourthly The bodies of men after death return to dust but their souls which die not return to God who gave them the souls of the righteous are received into the highest heaven where they enjoy God in glory waiting for the full redemption of their bodies and the souls of the wicked are cast into hell where they remain in torment reserved to the Judgment of the great day Fifthly At the last day such as are found alive shall be changed and they that are dead shall be raised up Sixthly God hath appointed a day wherein he will Judge the world in righteousness by Jesus Christ which day the Apostate Angels shall be Iudged and all persons that live upon the earth shall appear before the tribunal of Christ to give an account of their thoughts words and deeds and to receive according to what they have done in their bodies whether good or evil These things I do believe according to the Scriptures and never publish any thing contrary to them Richard Coppin CHAP. XI The Authors second appearing at Oxford Assises before Judge Hutton and what was there done I According to my engagement appeared the second time at the general Assises holden at Oxford there expecting again to have seen the faces of my former accusers they having before said they would follow me to death but they finding nothing against me came not there proclamation being made in the Court for my discharge and none other having any thing against me to declare one Keat the then Sheriff for that County sitting in the Court being of a bitter spirit and also an enemy to truth as he then appeared stood up as one among the rest of the accusers and informers saying that he could declare something against me which was spoke in London but when he was asked what it was no particular could be mention but said that he had heard very strange things declared by me at S. Dunstons Church in London before a great Congregation of people of great quality to the great dishonour of God and the people disturbance as said this informer Mr. Keet who earnestly importuned the Judge to restrain me from preaching in answer to which the Judge told him that a mans liberty was pretious and there was no reason any man should be restrained from his liberty therein by any mans words whatsoever unless oath were made against him that he had offended the Law Therefore said the Judge I cannot do it upon your words nor any mans else for then I should be partial and I came not onely to bind but to free men Then the Informer Mr. Keat by name receiving those repulses from the Judge was silent and sate him down with shame and then the bitter spirits of others in the University whose mouthes were ready to be opened in malice against me were quashed my freedom ordered and my enemies ashamed CHAP. XII The Authors humble appeal to his Highness Oliver Lord Protector of England Scotland and Ireland as a General redress for all people My Lord FOrasmuch as it hath pleased the Lord of Lords to call you to this high place of Protectorship under himself and according as he shall protect counsel guide and direct you as he did Christ and the rest of the Kings of Israel so you may act like them in walking before the people to do justice among them For by him Kings reign and Princes decree justice Prov. 8.15 who himself reigns in them to be their wonderful Counsellor And now as according to the counsel of the Lord your Highness hath been pleased to declare your self both by promise and oath to seek the peace freedom and liberty of the people of this and other Nations against oppression and tyranny and to protect them in their just rights and priviledges according to the mind of God written in Scripture for Christian Religion that then in the Lords time and as he himself shall appear to go before you and act in you so you may according to his directions follow him in persuit thereof bringing glory to God in the highest and on earth peace and good will towards men Which you shall so far as you follow the counsel of the Lord and not of
that men might have peace and joy in it and God glorified by it but in man the place which the Lord hath appointed for himself to dwell in for behold the Tabernacle of God is with men that he might be a Comforter to them to encrease amongst them righteousness peace and joy which is the Kingdom of the Lord and till we have it in our selves we have it not any where but if there then every where which is a new name written that no man knows but he that hath it and thus the Scripture declares unto us what and where heaven is and I know no other heaven as to me in which is mans salvation from sin death hell and the world but Christ in man and man in Christ and they that will have any other let them declare what and where that is as I have declared what and where this is which is according to the Scripture and my own experience Eighthly That he who thought there was a hell to him there was a hell but he that thought there was no hell to him there was no hell Answ My Lord I yet know no other hell as to me then what I have found in my own conscience though the time hath been that I have feared another as most men do and as all men else have done till their consciences were purged but this I have found in my self that when it pleased God to make know Christ to me to take away from me the fear of hell he also took away hell for fear hath torment therefore to me it appears that while we live in the fear of hell we have it are in it and so subject to the punishment of it being kept in bondage by it till Christ in us shall destroy that fear and so set our minds at liberry as is written That for as much as the children are partakers of flesh and blood Jesus Christ himself took part of the same that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death which is the Devil and so free them who all their life time were subject to bondage and now happy is that soul that sees himself so made free by Christ for he is free indeed and now sees an end of the Devil sin death and hell which he before lived in fear of and was in bondage to and therefore when the Lord Jesus is pleased to deliver us from the fear of it that it shall no more have power over us and thereby manifest in us perfect love wherein is no fear he then delivers us from hell it self from which every believer is freed Rev. 21. but the fearful and unbelieving and the abominable and murthehers and whoremongers and sorcerers and Idolaters and all lyars while they so remain are cast into it and so have their part in the Lake of fire burning with brimstone till the Lord Jesus by his mighty power shall quench the fire raise them up and overcome all their enemies for them and so restore peace to them in him that is their peace the Lord Jesus and then he that hath part in the first resurrection through Christ or is once made free by Christ of him the second death shall have no power but he is changed from death unto life by the spirit of the Lord and so sees an end of death and hell as to him All which I shall leave to your Lordships consideration and this honourable Court and do give you many thanks for that I have had liberty to speak for my self But my accusers were much troubled that I had so fair a hearing and began to urge many other things of their own inventions against me which was not in the Indictment First they said that I denyed the Law of Moses in saying there was no salvation by it which they affirmed it was if man would keep it That if it were possible for a man now to keep the Law in the letter of it which that it is impossible yet there would be no salvation by it for any man God having found out another way even by Jesus Christ without which no man could be saved 2. They said that I denyed the keeping of the Sabboth which they went to prove from the fourth Commandment Remember thou keep holy the Sabboth day To which I answered that the true Sabboth of a Christian was Christ and I knew no other as to me though that day which they now call a Sabboth day I keep it as exactly and as purely as any of them did in preaching to the people but not upon the account of a Sabboth day but as the first day of the week as the Apostles did being a day set apart for that use 3. They said that I spake in derision of heaven saying that if a Mill-stone were at heaven it would be hundreds of years a coming down To which I answered That I never said the words but one in my company did once say that they were spoken by a Minister in the Pulpit who there endeavouring to shew unto the people the vast distance between heaven and earth told them that if a Mill-stone were at heaven it would be many hundred years a coming down and that one of his hearers should make answer that if heaven were above the skies and a Mill-stone so long a coming down how long then should he be a going up And this my Lord was declared by one of their own tribe yet they would ascribe it to me though I never said the words 4. They said that I should deny the resurrection of the body and said there was no other but what was in flowers and grass also when the Corps laid in a grave were cast up again though turned to earth then was there a resurrection To which I answered that the resurrection of the dead I never denyed but do alwayes affirm it neither did I ever speak those words though they might be spoke in my company Yet it may be said that in this there is a resurrection though not denying any other for the vertue of every carkass laid in the earth doth ascend upwards with the earth and so come forth in flowers and grass also when a grave is digged and the body before laid in it though rotted to earth again cast up with the bones and all things thereto belonging then may it be said to be a resurrection of that body and the true resurrection not denyed but those things being thus answered and the malice of my accusers made manifest the Judge appeared more satisfied and my accusers more ashamed Then after the Judge had heard the whole business and declared the substance thereof to the Jury who understood it not they went forth to consult upon their Verdict whether all or any part of the charge were blasphemy by the Act or no who returned in their Verdict guilty being asked of what part they said of that concerning heaven and hell Then the Judge told them that unless it came
truth or as it is in Jesus And this was all the knowledge and experience that I had while under that dispensation of grace or the Son of God manifesting yet the same that they had where I then saw the work but a doing not done salvation but a coming and not come and so saw not any thing then made perfect Then after two years were expired of my beholding this their order in London seeing all the ways and opinions of men with all their feigned righteousness for to be but destruction and confusion I prophesied of their downfall which would shortly after come to pass and which I have since in part seen to be fulfilled for I saw that they were not built upon the true foundation Christ as the rock which would stand 1 Cor. 3.11 and was laid by God but upon the foundation and buildings of men Matth. 7.26 27. laid by men on the sands as that which would shake and fall and would not endure the fire even God when he appeared but would with all their Elements melt before him as dross 2 Pet. 3.10 and with all their fair heavens be burnt up before him as stubble and vanish away before him as smoak and as chaff before the wind Wherefore I seeing them to be thus fitted for destruction and prepared for the slaughter I passed them all by that I might not in my profession be destroyed with them and would not go in or be tyed in covenant to any of them being none of them according to the institution of Christ and they being thus weighed in the ballance of the Righteousness of Christ by Christ and there found too light they vanished away and so ceased as to me And after this legal dispensation of the knowledge of Christ in the flesh and the performing duties after the flesh by me was ended with me John 16.25 and Christ appearing in power and glory to me shewing me plainly of the Father I then saw according to that appearance of God to me in the Father what and where God Christ and the Devil was and is also heaven and hell salvation and damnation what and where that was and is I having had the experience of it all within me and so I saw as to my self a death of the one part as of the Devil hell and damnation with all things at the left hand of God and a living of the other part as of God Christ Heaven and Salvation with all things at the right hand of God which was my dying to the one part as to that on the left hand and my living to the other part as to that on the right hand and which was to me the day of the Lord and a restauration of all things to God where and at which time I saw one dispensation perfected in another or grace perfected in glory the Son perfected in the Father or all things made perfect in God the Kingdom of the Son delivered up to the Father 1 Cor. 15.21 and where I saw all my own works which ever I had done under any dispensation before that of Christ in the Spirit to be burnt up and made void to me with all my prayers which I made books which I had read sermons which I had heard besides and below Christ all now appeared to be of no worth unto me Phil. 2.9 3 9. as to do me any good for I had found one Jesus that was ascended far above all heavens that he might fill all things and that had a name above every name that was named of things in heaven and of things on earth in whom I was now found without having my own righteousness which is of the Law but that which is through the faith of Christ who was now become my worth my life my light and my all who had filled me with himself and whom I saw to be all to me and to do all for me and to have given an end to all things besides himself in me which made me now throw away all my books of Presbyterians Independants Anabaptists Acts 19.18 19. and whatsoever else as the believing Jews and Grecians had done before and to forget all things therein and not to know any thing any where or in any thing either without or within me but Jesus Christ and him crucified and so to know my self in him to have made my progress to him in the Fathers Kingdom the end of my journey where I shall no more be travelling but be at rest with the Son in the bosom of the Father Which is the race that all men are to run the way that all men are to go and the work that all men are to do even to deny themselves Luke 9.23 24. and all things of themselves and to follow Christ till they come to Christ if ever they mean to be perfect with Christ for If thou wilt be perfect Mat. 19.21 go and sell all that thou hast CHAP. III. The Authors Call and Commission to preach what and from whence it was the Parish Priests Call and Commission to preach what and from whence that was WHen God in Christ did manifest himself to me for my conversion the redemption of my body and the salvation of my soul to the perfecting of the body of Christ in and to me as that I knew it and was assured of it in my self what and when it vvas I then savv it all to be in him the same to all men as to me though not manifest unto them and according to vvhat I had received of the Lord. I vvas commanded by the Lord in me to publish and declare to all sorts of men vvithout respect of persons or opinions vvith this Commission follovving First that vvhatsoever I did speak or vvrite it vvas to be my ovvn experience in the Lord of God manifest in flesh justified in the spirit seen of Angels preached unto the Gentiles 1 Tim. 3.16 believed on in the World received up into glory Christ the same yesterday to day and for ever And that I was not to speak or write any thing that should tend to the continuing John 6.27 advancing or setting up of any thing that should perish or come to an end and be in opposition to the Lord ●esus as the setting up of any thing besides him was but that it should always tend to the advancement of his Kingdom as of love joy peace and righteousness among men through Christ and to the throwing down of Antichrist and his Kingdom with all deceiveableness and unrighteousness of men and what I did I was to do it freely and in love and not be chargeable or burthensome to any Rom. 14.17 to hinder any from coming into the Kingdom of the Lord which was a free Kingdom nor to give any liberty to Antichrists Kingdom which was a Kingdom of gain hire and self interest and which consists of buying and selling the word of God and for which work
who hath resisted thy will let thy will be done as hath been our daily prayer unto him and Paul saith That as by one man death and damnation came to all Rom. 5.18 so by one life and salvation came to all else Christ were not sufficient to save all that Adam lost and to bring again all that was driven away and it is nowhere said that all men shall never be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth but it is said that in due time all men shall be saved and Paul was sent to preach this Gospel to the world Rom. 11.32 and to sinners yea all men whatsoever and he saith That God hath concluded them all under sin and unbelief that he might have mercy upon all And now If any man sin he hath an advocate with the Father 1 John 2 2 3. Jesus Christ the righteous who is a propitiation not onely for our sins or the sins of a few to wit Isa 53. Apostles and Saints but also for the sins of the whole world and hath made full satisfaction for all paid the debts of all yea all men past present and to come and that damnation to any creature is no longer but for that time wherein they believe not this to be done as by experience I can testifie for he that believes not is condemned already John 3.16 and a man may be an unbeliever one day and a believer another therefore damned one day and saved another And that which all men are to be saved from 1 Tim. 2 and in due time shall be made manifest to them is death and hell in which abides the Devil Sin and Damnation all which shall be cast into the lake of fire there to be ended that it no more shall rise up in judgement against them to accuse and condemn them and God cannot neither will he lose any thing that is of himself or is himself but the son of perdition that damnable state of unbelievers together with all that is of the creature as found out by the creature to wit his own invnetions in that state of sin and death for God made man upright just and good and I dare not say that any creature which God made shall go to any local hell to be tormented after he is departed out of this visible being because the Scripture saith it not but saith That the body when it falls goeth to the earth from whence it came Eccles 12.7 and the soul to God that gave it And it is most certain that God gave to every man his soul therefore he will take every mans soul to himself again because it can live in no other but him Job 12 10. for every thing returns to its centre and still lives and remains the same in and with God as at the first who will cast away none that comes to him and are of him but one God made us all and is a husband to us all and we all are his Spouse though we all know it not For thy maker is thy hushand the Lord of hoasts is his name the God of the whole earth shall he be called and though for the time of our rebellion against him he may seem to us to hide his face from us in our apprehensions yet with an everlasting loving kindness doth he still love us and will save us Isa 54.4 5 6 7 8. and so cause us to behold his face again to forget the shame of our youth and the things that are behind and remember the reproach of our widowhood no more Isa 54.4 being now returned in knowledge to him who is our husband and first love with whom we shall live for ever world without end therefore to say that all men whatsoever may be saved though it appear not to them so long as they all believe not is no more then what the Scripture saith And so much of the answer to the second Article that all men whatsoever should be saved But my accusers were troubled and thought my answer too large and the time too long that I had to plead who told the Judge that my lungs were so strong that if he suffered me still to go on I would never have done but the Judge honestly reproved them saying that he had heard them and was now to hear me who bid me go on Thirdly That all that heard me were in heaven and glory Answ 1 Cor. 12.27 The Saints of God which are the body of Christ and members in particular cannot be separated from their head which is Christ Ephes 5.20 being all members of his body of his flesh and of his bones and Christ the head of every man being in heaven and in glory every man therefore may be said to be in heaven and in glory with him yea in the same glory that Christ himself is in though not yet revealed to them for saith Christ to his Father Father glorifie me with thy self with the glory I had with thee before the world was and the glory that thou hast given me I have given them that they may be one even as we are one Joh. 17.5.22 23 24 25 26. I in them and thou in me that they be made perfect in one And the desire of Christ then was that they might be with him to behold his glory and O righteous Father saith he I have declared unto them thy name and will declare it that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them and I in them And Christ and they being one in another they cannot be parted one from another but where the one is the other is also and Christ in raising up himself to heaven raised up them with himself Isa 6.19 Iohn 12.32 for together with my dead body or as my dead body shall they arise saith Christ and I if I be lifted up will draw all men unto me and Paul saith He hath raised us up together and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus and Both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one yea Ephes 2.6 Heb. 2.11 of one God and Father for which cause he is not ashomed to call them brethren and as they are all brethren so they are also heirs co-heirs and joynt-heirs with him in the same heaven and glory of the Father that Christ is heir in though they yet know it not and therefore all that is yet wanting in and to men is onely a manifestation and enjoyment of this in themselves which in due time will be made manifest to them all as the Lord Jesus shall appear in them and God by him be made known to them Fourthly That God was as much in them as in Christ Answ That God who is the power life and light of all men and that cannot be divided from neither confined to any one man is the same in all men as he was in that one man called Christ born of
God Thou wilt not leave my soul in hell meaning the grave nor suffer thy holy one to see corruption Psal 16.10 and what this hell and grave is he also calls it the lowest pit or darkness in the deep in which he was shut up and could not come forth the wrath of God lying so hard upon him Psalm 88. or the Lord hiding his face from him and Jonah agrees with the same who when he was in the fishes belly said That he was in hell For out of the belly of hell said he cryed I unto thee and thou heardst my voyce Ionah 2. for when thou hadst cast me into the deep or depth of darkness into the midst of the sea or under many troubles and afflictions and the floods compassed me about all thy billows and thy waves passed over me then I said I am cast out of thy sight or saw thee in wrath yet I will look again toward thy holy Temple where I shall behold thee in love when thou shalt raise me up Amos 9.2 And in Amos the Lord saith Though they dig into hell thence shall my hand take them and your covenant with death and hell shall be d●sanulled saith the Lord But it is most sure that there is a hell for the wicked as there is a heaven for the godly and all that are in Christ Jesus And for this let us consider of one Scripture more in Matth. 25. where heaven is said to be at the right hand of God and hell at the left hand compared with Psal 16.11 In thy presence is fulness of joy and at thy right hand are pleasures for evermore meaning in heaven with God and how those on the right hand and that have increased their talents enter into the joy of the Lord as into heaven where they are at rest for ever when those on the left hand and that have not increased their talents go into utter darkness as into hell where is weeping and gnashing of teeth pining and mourning for sin and where they are at no rest And thus there is a heaven wherein eternal life is enjoyed by Christ and all his and there is a hell wherein everlasting punishment is inflicted upon the Devil and all his But let us use the Scripture expression for it if we shall declare it which is according to the mind of God Thirdly That everlasting life should end in this life Answ My Lord for answer to this I do affirm That I never then and so said the words and I do also affirm That everlasting life with Christ in God shall never have an end and that believers or the righteous in Christ go to it as to God enjoy it as God and still remain in it as in God with Christ Colos 3.4 John 3.36 yea after they have been dead according to the Scriptures as the wicked go to hell and damnation and as some who believe not are already in it And thus life everlasting with Christ in God shall never have an end Object But for a further clearing of this some may yet say Is there not a life which shall have an end and yet said to be everlasting Answ I answer That there is a life according to manifestation spoken of in Scripture which seems to have an end or be made perfect in another life and yet said to be everlasting as the life of works and of nature ends and is made perfect in the life of grace the life of grace ends and is made perfect in the life of glory the lesser still swallowed up of the greater the lower of the higher the darker of the lighter the weaker of the stronger to be made perfect and so at last all things end and are made perfect in God Object But how is that which ends said to be everlasting Answ For further answer to this it may also be said That if the first Covenant and Priesthood under the Law with the conditions thereof Gen. 17. Exo. 40.13 14 15 was said to be everlasting as that it was and is during the time of that administration unto us then the life which we lived in obedience to that Covenant while under it which was a life of works of fear and of bondage was as everlasting as that but when that first Covenant and Priesthood with the conditions thereof according to that administration which was said to be everlasting or was made perfect in a second a new and more heavenly then the life which we lived while under the first did end also with the first and so with the same made perfect in a second a new and more heavenly life as in life of grace and freedom faith and love under the second Covenant changed and brought in confirmed and sealed by the blood of the Lord Jesus whose life we then live and are justified by for where there is a change of a Covenant Law Statute Ordinances Conditions Administrations or Dispensations there is a change of a life also to the creature even that life which we are then bound by that Law in our consciences to live which is a change from a Covenant of works to a Covenant of free grace Rom. 2.28 29. or from the circumcising of the foreskin of the flesh in the letter to that of the heart and in the spirit which Covenant it is that God hath made with us according to the Scripture and which we are to live Heb. 8. For after these daies saith he a new Covenant will I make c. therefore a new life will he give And that the word Everlasting and For ever hath an end with us I shall yet prove from several Scriptures for in some Scriptures it is said The earth shall endure for ever as Eccles 1. in others it is said The earth shall be dissolved and burnt up now that earth which shall have no end must be that which had no beginning for whatsoever hath a beginning hath also an end and what that earth is which hath neither beginning nor end the Preacher in Ecclesiastes will tell you But there is a earth which shall have an end and that is the earth which the Devil feeds upon Gen. 3.14 and inhabits in to wit flesh sin and corruption the old man in us that is of the earth earthy together with all carnal wisdom 1 Cor. 15.47 self-righteousness flesh form and formality as that which is not spirit and truth and that cannot endure the fire even God when he appeareth in righteousness why this shall be burnt up Heb. 12.29 consumed and scattered before the Lord as dust before the wind though it is said to be for ever and everlasting as in Habackkuk 3.6 Yet when the Lord shall so come in his glorious brightness as is there spoken of then shall all things of man and that is earthy be scattered bow and melt before him as is written Before him went the pestilence and burning coals went forth at his feet he