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A77938 Ansvvers to severall queries put forth to the despised people called Quakers, by Philip Bennett, who cals himself a minister of Christ, but is found a deceiver; answered by them to whom they were directed. Also, ansvvers to severall other subtil queries put forth by one Iohn Reeve, who lives in the City of London, who cals himself the last messenger and witnesse unto the true God, but is found a false witnesse, and a lyar, and a perverter of the right way of God. / Answered by Edward Burrough, and Francis Howgill, who are witnesses unto the truth against this subtil serpent-like generation. Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662.; Howgill, Francis, 1618-1669. 1654 (1654) Wing B5984; Thomason E813_4; ESTC R207330 24,422 20

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mysteries are as in thy book and thy queries where thou puts Elect and reprobate together and as for tryall of spirits we give liberty and exhort all that may try and we direct them to that to try by which is is infallible and eternall whereby they may see and comprehend thee and all who have not the Spirit But that they should try who hath nothing to try with let all such be silent for ever for none understands the Spirit but the Spirit with which we see thee and all who stands in their imaginations ignorant of therefore stop thy mouth in the dust and be silent 9 Quer. Doth not they that speak to a people that declares against all appearances which are contrary to his way discover himself unto a true discerning Spirit not to be of the Lord unlesse they can demonstrate a spirituall Commission that he hath received from heaven by voice of words through the glorious mouth of the Lord so that no mortall man can disprove him though few for want of understanding receive him Ans. The way that leads to the Father is but one which is Christ and he that declares from him made manifest in him declares against all Sects and Opinions and that which thou cals appearances and the way is one and the Tru●h one where there is no rent nor division and he that dwels in the life hath discerning and he that witnesses the annointing discernes he is able to judge and discern and in that thou art seen who would sit on the throne but thou must come down and lick the dust dust is the serpents meat and they who had their Commission from God and hath their Commission from God now they were made manifest to every mans conscience in the sight of God and this we witnesse this the Scripture witnesseth and he that believes hath the witnesse in himself and the father bears witnesse and they witnesse the voice of the Lord which is spirituall speaking to them and they declare from that which is spirituall to the consciences of gainsayers and this is witnessed but thy voice of words is carnal and is denyed and who art thou made manifest unto that which is mortal cannot discern and disprove thee but that which is immortal can and they who are guided by the immortall denies thee and will receive none of thy testimony because it is not the same which the holy men of God witnessed and doth now witnesse which voice shakes the wildernesse and rents the rocks and makes the earth to reel to and fro but to thee this is a mystery and sealed 10 Quer. Again he that speaketh of an invisible spirituall God or Christ living in the consciences or spirit of men thou sayeth he questions the truth of all the Scripture records concerning the life death and resurrection and aseension of the blessed body of Christ into the throne of his immortall glory and doth he not que●●ion whether the consciences of the Saints being sprinkled with the blood of Jesus which died without the g●●es of Jerusalem are purified from the pollution of the flesh and Spirit doth he not question the resurrection of the souls and bodies out of the eat●h at the last day Ans. Here again thou hast made thy sha●e and thy ignorance manifest and knows not so much as the Letter of he Scripture Paul in Apostle of Jesus Ch●ist notby the will of man and Minister of the everlasting God he witnessed the Son of God revealed in him and he ●●i● kn●w ye 〈…〉 Christ ●s in you or else you are rep●●●ates and ●h●i●t is no● divided and he tha● is joyned to the Lord is ●●e Spirit and 〈◊〉 my Father are one ●●d w●●●e Christ dwells the Father dwells and if thou have ●● e●● to hear ●hou may h●●● and if the ●●●e Spirit be not in you that raised Christ 〈…〉 he ●●●d you are 〈…〉 and he that declared these things speak of a spi●i●ua●l Christ and an invi 〈…〉 God and who ●●all ascend up to heaven the word is nigh in thy mo●t●● and 〈◊〉 heart and this is the same Christ that suffered without the ga●e at Jerusalem and no other wh●●h Paul travelled till he was born in them if thou have an ear th●u may hear and the Apost●● did not question the Scripture records for they spoke it and recorded it and th●y witnessed the life of Christ and his death and resu●rection and a●c●nsion and witnessed him ascended above thrones and dominions and to sit at the right hand of the Father and witnesse the same Christ made manifest in us and his resurrection not because Paul said so we have seen it and are witnesses of it the same that ever was the same that did ascend the same did ascend this is a riddle unto thee and seven seals is upon it and thou that queries shall never see them opened and they who had Christ in them and the Father the Son supping with them they had their conscience sprinkled and none else for his bloud thou knows not and so I say unto thee thou art not sprinkled nor thy conscience purified from dead works and they who know Christ in them and no more after the flesh come to know his resurrection he is the resurrection he is the first and the last who knows him risen and have seen him witnesse the first day and the last what speaks thou of a last day that never came to the beginning and so thy soul lies in death and in chains and in utter darknesse and therefore lay thy hand upon thy mouth and see where thou ●●t and the Spirit that gave forth the Scriptures thou cannot witnesse 11 Quer. If after death there is no bodily resurrection for the spirits of men to possesse an immortall glory to eternity or to suffer an eternall devill like shame according to their deeds whether good or evill Is it not one of the vainest things in the world to discourse of God righteousnesse unlesse it be for earthly gain amongst men Ans. There is a resurrection both of the just and of the unjust the just into everlasting life and the unjust into everlasting shame and contempt and every one shall receive according to his works whether they be good or evill but this a mystery hid for none knowes it but through death but what knowes thou who art yet alive in sin what shall be in the resurrection which is after death which whoever comes to know the resurrection knowes the e●d of all things therefore it is not taking their words nor thy own imaginations that is faith nor if thou know Christ no nearer than Jerusalem nor no nearer than above the starres thou knowes not where but through thy dark imaginations this is not to Christ risen from the dead see therefore what hast thou seen in thy self But thou art dead whiles thou lives in that nature and at the resurrection contempt and shame will be thy portion and turn in thy minde to that which
is unknown if ever thou know it it must be through death the nature and glory of the Elect differs not from the Nature and glory of the Creator for the Elect are one with the Creator in his nature enjoying his glory which was from eternity unto eternity he that reads let him understand thy word distinct Essence I deny for the Elect is not distinct from the Creator but lives by the dwelling of the Son in him and with the Son the Father dwels also if thou hast an ear thou mayest hear 3 Quer. In thy third particular thou queries What that angelicall serpent was in his creation which the Scripture speaks of and how he came to be cast out of his glory and how he overcame innocent Eve and how he entered into her wombe and changed her pure seed into his nature of unclean reason And thou askes What think you Was not that man Cain the first murdering lying devill that ever was And is there any devill but proud vain-glorions unmercifull men and women Ans. That same which speaks in thee is that same serpent which the Scripture speaks of and if thou have the spirit of Moses thou knowes what he was in the creation for Moses saw his creation by that spirit which was before he was and if thou know his creation in thy self then thou may know him without thee but yet he lies under his vail deceiving thee and is not deceived by thee and by the same which thou lives in he was cast out of his glory even disobedience and he overcame inocent Eve even as he overcomes thee by promising what he fulfilled not and by presenting that which was visible and so her minde was led out as thine is and by her consenting he entered and got power and set up his habitation which is now standing in thee and so she became the likenesse of himself her minde and lust st●ayed into the visibles out from the Creator who is invisible and spirituall and she now lives under the curse and brings forth cursed children such as thou art who puts forth these queries and this child was begotten by him who deceived her and he is the father and prince of all you who are wells without water clouds without rain and wandering starres having no habitations in the heavens the blackness of darknesse is reserved unto you for ever ye who speaks great swelling words of vanity that ye are the last witnesses and Messengers c. but you your selves are servants of corruption and to the last part of thy querie I answer before Cain who is a lying devill was a child he was a father and if thou hast an ear thou mayest hear the proud vain-glorious unmercifull men and women who bears his image must with him be tormented in the lake which burneth by the kindling of the breath of the Almighty for ever and ever and here thou art answered though not to the feeding of thy wisdome but in the light by which thou art comprehended which light will eternally condemn thee who hates it 4 Quer. Thou queries What condition Adam was formed in and how he came to fall from his estate and what sin it was they committed Adam and Eve and whereby the Elect and Reprobate are defiled Ans. Adam was created in the image of God and God breathed into him the breath of life and he became a living soul but eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evill therein he turned from the Command of God and did dye if thou hast an ear thou mayest hear and thou that queries hast eaten of that tree and thou shalt never know in what condition he was created in but through the death for a sword is set at Edens gate to keep the tree of life which will cut thee down before ever thou know or can witnesse his estate and as for the Elect being defiled here thou makest thy self manifest that thou never knew what the Elect was for the Elect is born of God and he that is born of God sins not and the promises of God are to the Elect and election obtains it and the Elect was never defiled if thou hast an ear thou mayest hear that which is defiled shall not enter into the holy City and here thou hast manifest thy ignorance and art that reprobate thou speaks which is ordained of old for condemnation which is the transgresser which is cast out thou hast no communion with the Elect for thou art defiled and art without the gate to be trodden in the wine-presse 5 Quer. What that heavenly glory is and where it is that the Elect wheat of Christ shall eternally enjoy who are the seed of Adam and not of Cain Answ. What that glory which the Elect which thou spoke of in thy fourth querie shal inherit which was and is defiled it is to be in hell in utter darknesse for ever and ever where all the unclean are and thou would know where it is it is without the gate of the City among the dogs and whoremongers and lyars and deceivers and whatsoever is defiled shall be trodden in the wine-presse of the wrath of God for ever and ever where is weeping wailing and gnashing of teeth But as for the Elect wheat of Christ which thou sayest is the children of Adam thou speakest thou knowes not what the first man is of the earth earthly and he begate his image and that which is earthly shall never inherit but are to have their portion with Cain where thou art that hath uncovered thy nakednesse but the Elect and the wheat shall be gathered into the barn and they are not nor ever were they defiled but shall reign with the Lamb in the new Jerusalem for ever and ever where no unclean thing can enter nor nothing that destroyes or defiles in that holy mountain of the Lord if thou have an ear thou may hear 6 Quer. VVhat that painfull and shamefull death in utter darknesse and where it is that is reserved for the reprobate who are the seed of Cain and not of Adam or blessed Abr●ham Answ. Thou that queries shalt surely know it is Tophet prepared of old even for the King the burning of it is as fire the breath of the Lord doth kindle it it shall be destruction for ever and ever to that which hath given forth these queries and it is to be separated from God for ever among all idolaters and adulterers and liars the unbelieving the abominable and the fearful in the lake of fire where the worm dieth not nor the fire goeth not out as for Adam thou knows nothing of him the first birth that he begate was Cain who slew his brother who hath his portion with Cain and not with Abraham the promise was not to the transgresser nor to Adam who eat of the tree of knowledge the promise came upon in the day thou eatest thou shalt dye he was driven from the presence of the Lord into the earth in the
curse the promise was to Abraham in Isaack is the blessing not in Ishmael and here thou sh●ws thy ignorance but it is but like the former when thou joynes the Elect and reprobate together light and darknesse and in Babylon thou art but in that which was before Babylon was thou art seen and as for those dark spirits thou ●peaks of who minde nothing but their lusts condemning the glorious things of eternity because their carnall reason cannot comprehend them see at home for in the light of Christ thou art seen that thou knowes nothing of eternity but by thy dark imaginations and naturally as a bruite to the light of Christ in thy conscience I speak which will let thee see it is so 7 Quer. Are there not deceived persons and utterly ignorant of the true God who judge men and women in darknesse if they a●k them Questions about the needfull things of eternity is it not because they went before they were sent and so are of a bitter spirit for want of spirituall light to satisfie the ●ender Christian querier Ans. All who dwell not in this light which is pure and eternall are ignorant of God and never knew God such judging shall be judged and by the light which sees and comprehends all darknesse thou art seen but the spirituall man judgeth all things and he is judged of none and all judgement is committed to the Son and where he i●made manifest he speaks and judgeth righteously and those men and women who would be asking questions of eternity and never came to the first principle to be guided by it the light which leads to eternity all such men and women are in darknesse and that minde which is in the earth and in the naturals shall never know and therefore they are judged to be in darknesse and darknesse cannot comprehend the light Christ and his Disciples answered and judged that spirit which would have had a sign and called them adulterers and which spirit we witnesse to the praise of God and to thee that put forth the queries I speak to thee in the presence of God whether thou put them forth in simplicity and art ignorant or would know or in the pride of thy heart and subtilty to tempt the light of Christ will let thee see but thou art rich and full therefore thou must be sent empty away all who queries from that nature that would know but never come to obedience that is to be judged judgment must thou witness and for a bitter spirit of envy that shall stand for thy self and that thou wants spiritual light is made manifest which curses that which God hath blessed as I have seen under thy own hand far remote from this City and that thou hast cursed them soul and body to all eternity which thou never heard nor saw let shame strike thee in the face and stop thy mouth for thou cannot put a difference betwixt the precious and the vile but curses thou knows not what and speaks to that thou knows not But as for them who have a desire to know the way to the Father we are ready to give an answer and to impart of the gift we have received and doth not break a bruised reed but the fat we f●ed with judgement and there thou art answered 8 Quer. It is not an infallible demonstration unto them who have a discerning spirit that tha● man hath no commission from the true Spirit to preach or speak to a people when for fear of his ignorance being discovered or for fear of losing his hearers he shall counsell them to strike close to the Word of God or to hearken to the light within them in their consciences without what that is in the conscience or what will be the issue of it if men be obedient to it or disobedient to it and to beware of false Prophets and not thinking in the least himself to be that false prophet and thus borrowing Scripture language which we are the true Messengers of the Gospel doth he not in his power hinder his hearers from reading the glorious things revealed unto the two last witnesses and so thou saith it is clear that the Spirit is not in them which was in Paul who gave them leave to try all Ans. Here thy infallible demonstration is made manifest to be fallible and lying when thou laies that down to be a sign of them that have no commission from the Spirit and not to have the Spirit because they exhort them to cleave close to the Word of God and to minde the light which shines into the conscience of every man which is the light of Christ here thy Spirit is tryed that thou hast not the same commission as they had who spoke forth the Scripture and so thou Preaches another Gospel for the Word of God endures for ever and by the Word which is eternall and which was in the beginning who tryes all things who searches all things comprehends all things and judges all things he that cleaves not close unto that builds upon another foundation and by the Word which endures for ever thou art seen not to have that word neither knowes what nor where it is neither hath cleaved to it and so art raced out from the life from the foundation and the Apostle who had his Commission not from man nor by man he exhorted those he had preached to and wrote to to take heed to the sure word of Prophesie as unto a light that shined in a dark place and to wait in it till the day did dawn and the day Star did arise and for distinguishing of that in the conscience what it is he that is not separate from the darknesse knows not how to do it But this I say unto thee as we declare unto all the Light which shines into the conscience is the light of Christ which he hath enlightned every one withall and it is spirituall like himself and eternall and it leads out of sin and declares against all iniquity and he that comes to own it and to be guided by it it leads out of sin to know the Crosse of Christ which is a Mistery to thee and it leads to the eternall Word which was in the beginning before sin was and it will judge all thy imaginations and vain conceivings and it leads to the inheritance incorruptible out of corruptible if thou have an ear to hear thou may hear it is that which will let thee see thy vain frothy imaginations which thou hath of God and will condemn all thy vain imaginations and hating it it will be thy condemnation and there is the issue of it and all such as steals other mens words and the true Prophets words and never knew the life that was in them all such we deny and shut them up within utter darknesse where they thou and both are and for the glorious things that thou and thy partner which call your selves the two last witnesses it is manifest that your