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A95963 The authours, nature, and danger of hæresie. Laid open in a sermon preached before the Honorable House of Commons at Margarets Westminster, upon Wednesday the tenth of March, 1646. being set apart as a solemne day of publike humiliation to seeke Gods assistance for the suppressing and preventing of the growth and spreading of errours, heresies, and blasphemies. / By Richard Vines. Printed by order of the House of Commons. Vines, Richard, 1600?-1656. 1647 (1647) Wing V545; Thomason E378_29; ESTC R3304 47,605 81

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off civil punishments of sinnes against the second Table also neither doe I see any just reason that if the office of a Magistrate have any place in the matters of the first Table he can punish sedition which is against his owne name or dignity and stand still and looke on with his hands tied whiles the name and honour of the great God is openly traduced or blasphemed For the seducing Haereticke he is to be prohibited and restrained you will not suffer a man that hath a running plague-sore to go abroad to infect though his shutting up be not in way of punishment as if hee was punisht because hee hath the sore but in way of prevention of contagion as the restraint of the Leper was You pull downe another mans house and that justly when 't is on fire to prevent the burning of the whole Towne one way to put out the fire in the Oven is to shut it up Many errours and haeresies would die of themselves if they had not free vent Falsi doctores sathanae lenones saith Calvin False teachers are the Devils panders would you suffer panders to come into your houses solicit the chastity of your children would you suffer Mountebanks to sell poison upon a stage to destroy the bodies and lives of people This the b Examen censurae page 285. Remonstrants in scorne call our palmarium argumentum but it is not to be despised as if it was void of reason You that are Christian Magistrates should not forget the soules of them that live under your shadow There is a c Minus Celsus in disputatione de haereticis c. pag. 194. c. learned man who argues against the punishing of Haereticks with death and pitches upon this as the solida vera certa ratio the solid true and certain reason why other flagitious offenders are to be punisht but not Haereticks because haeresie saith he is the errour of a depraved minde an intellectuall errour but other morall vices arise from a depraved and corrupt will and the error of the understanding is not saith hee to be punisht with death but that it is to be restrained from spreading and infecting the comparisons which he brings in doe fully signify For you would not saith hee put a Physitian to death as a murderer who upon meere mistake gives his patient a potion of poyson in stead of good medicine nor a mad man that breaks out and kills and slaies such as he meets with because this proceeds from laesion of his understanding though I doe not concur with this supposition that haeresie is a a meere act of the understanding for it hath its denomination from the act of the will choosing the errour yet thus farre I goe with it that such pretended Physitians as hold that to be wholsome which is poison and minister it to their Patients are not to bee licensed to practise nor such mad men suffered to be loose to exercise their fury damnable haeresies can never be prevented if false teachers may have liberty to bring them in It s one thing to suffer Jewes Turkes Papists Haeretickes to live in the kingdome or City and another thing to give them liberty or freedome of Trade to open their shop and call in Customers to buy their destructive wares Thou hast them that hold the Doctrine of the Nicolaitans Revel 2. 15. Thou sufferest that woman Jezebel which calls her selfe a Prophetesse to teach and to seduce my servants was a sore charge laid by Christ upon those Churches Nor is it the Pulpit which can keep off the infection whiles the poison is carried up and downe in books and cryed at mens doors every day in which there are many strange doctrines going abroad open faced and some more strange which goe vailed and dropt into the Reader by insinuation there seeme to be very strange dreams about the manner of Christs being in the Saints and Gods being manifest in their flesh and about the Kingdome of the Saints and the licking of the dust of their feete by the world There are mysteries if the world was ripe for them I take notice of one thing in a late book which hath a very ill aspect brought in by way of enquiry what is meant by the word Scriptures when it is asserted that the denying of the Scriptures to be the word of God should be holden worthy of death For saith the Author either the English Scriptures or Scriptures in English are meant by the word Scriptures or the Hebrew and Greeke Copies or originalls The former cannot bee meant with reason because God did not speake to his Prophets and Apostles in the English tongue nor doth the English translation agree in all things with the originall or the true sense of it Nor the latter for the greatest part of men in the Kingdome doe not understand or know them If this dilem be good what is become of the certaine foundation of our hope or faith or comfort how can we search the Scriptures without going first to schoole to learne Hebrew and Greek It s well knowne that our Saviour himselfe and the Apostles doe usually cite the Greek translation or Septuagint when they quote the Scriptures of the old Testament and yet that translation had many variations in it from the originall and haply more then our English translation hath The Apostle citing a place out of the Septuagint where they expresse not the originall 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 saith 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 it is contained in Scripture 1 Pet. 2. 6. And there is no question but the Hellenists and western Jewes scattered up and down in Greece and Italy c. used the Greeke translation of the Scriptures in their Synagogues as appears by the confluence of the Greeks and Gentiles to them who understood not Hebrew and yet they of Beraea a city a Plin. lib. 4. cap. 10. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Stephanus 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of Macedonia are commended for searching the Scriptures of the old Testament and examining of Pauls doctrine by them and in that search there were Greeks that bare the Jews company as appears Acts 17. 11 12. And what Scriptures could they search but the Scriptures of the Greeke Translation I could easily demonstrate that the Scripture calls the originall translated scripture not without just reason for the Scripture stands not in cortice verborum but in medulla sensus it s the same wine in this vessel which was drawn out of that Translations are but vessels or taps as I may call them to set Scriptures abroach as for faults errours in that translation if that argument be able to batter and make a breach let it but have rope enough and it will make as great a breach in the Hebrew for when you come to find that ther are variae lectiones and that in the Margent truer then that in the Text as in that famous place a 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in textu