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A30189 An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessitie of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. Iohn Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulnesse of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithfull servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball. Ball, John, 1585-1640.; Ashe, Simeon, d. 1662. 1642 (1642) Wing B558; ESTC R3127 281,779 264

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repl_a 1._o pag._n 41._o ambr_n de_fw-fr offic_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 50_o grat_n do_v 93._o cap._n 21._o exit_fw-la quo_fw-la i●_n ecclesis_n sicut_fw-la in_o imperio_fw-la romano_n crevit_fw-la avaritia_fw-la perit_fw-la iex_fw-la de_fw-la sacerdote_fw-la &_o visia_n de_fw-fr prpheta_n bas_n in_o asceticis_fw-la chry._n desacer_fw-la complaint_n have_v be_v make_v against_o abuse_n of_o this_o nature_n by_o all_o sort_n ancient_a and_o modern_a who_o never_o deny_v the_o church_n where_o the_o true_a faith_n be_v profess_v to_o be_v the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n cyprian_n complain_v thus_o here_o i_o be_o grievous_o trouble_v that_o the_o church_n have_v many_o pastor_n who_o not_o only_o do_v not_o oppose_v their_o body_n against_o the_o incursion_n of_o wolf_n but_o also_o they_o themselves_o do_v play_v the_o part_n of_o wolf_n while_o they_o destroy_v the_o soul_n of_o the_o simple_a they_o themselves_o serve_v their_o belly_n gain_n and_o ambition_n and_o make_v 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order_n also_o i_o perceive_v dissension_n to_o arise_v from_o hence_o because_o there_o be_v no_o discipline_n no_o knowledge_n of_o god_n or_o it_o be_v perverse_a if_o any_o chrysostome_n neque_fw-la immeritos_fw-la solum_fw-la adleg●_n sed_fw-la &_o idone_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o toledan_a counsel_n complain_v that_o for_o eighteen_o year_n no_o synod_n be_v hold_v whence_o come_v gross_a ignorance_n and_o corruption_n of_o the_o minister_n it_o will_v be_v too_o long_o to_o set_v down_o at_o large_a the_o grave_n sharp_a and_o lamentable_a complaint_n that_o nicholas_n de_fw-fr clemang_n petrus_n de_fw-it aliaco_fw-it life_n see_v nichol._n clemang_n speculum_fw-la eccles_n petrus_n de_fw-fr aliaco_n reformat_fw-la eccle._n bern._n in_o conu._n s._n p._n ser_n 1._o heu_fw-la heu_fw-la domine_fw-la deus_fw-la ipsi_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_o persecutione_n tua_fw-la primi_fw-la qui_fw-la videatur_fw-la in_o eccl_n siam_fw-it tua_fw-la primatum_fw-la genere_fw-la id._n in_o 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