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A26961 Much in a little, or, An abstract of Mr. Baxters plain Scripture-proof for infants church-membership or baptism with a few notes upon the anti-queries of T.G. / by the same hand that wrote the Fifty queries. Barret, John, 1631-1713.; Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. Plain Scripture-proof of infants church-membership and baptism.; Grantham, Thomas, 1634-1692. Quaeries examined. 1678 (1678) Wing B1314; ESTC R14073 29,895 84

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Christianity hath not God appointed another primary more ordinary way of making Disciples of the children of the Godly viz. godly education Hath not God commanded the use of this means to all Parents that they teach them the Law of God and bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord from their childhood And may we not conclude that God appoints no means to be used from which he will ordinarily withdraw his Grace or to which he will deny his Blessing if it be used aright though the Word convert many that have neglected their Parents or have been neglected by them And further doth not experience confirm it that God frequently blesseth this means Now according to you how many thousands are there that should never be Baptized because they were not first made Disciples by Teaching according to the sense of Mat. 28. 19. which is Ministerial Teaching 5 Your ordinary practice of Baptizing by Dipping over head in cold water which you use as necessary is it not a breach of the Sixt Commandment Thou shalt not kill Being ordinarily and generally used doth it not tend directly to overthrow peoples health and lives How vain is it to say that many are appointed the use of Bathing as a Remedy against Diseases Is it an Universal Remedy yea how few Diseases have cold Baths appointed them And how many that have been tenderly brought up and take but little of the cold Air that dipping in cold weather in cold water in the course of nature would kill either presently or by casting them into some Chronical Disease Will you say if it be Gods way he will prevent the danger how great soever But hath God appointed any Ordinance contradictory to his great Moral Commands Hath he appointed any Ordinance in his Church which will destroy men except they be preserved by Miracle Will you say he hath tied himself to a constant working of Miracles which he hath not done except the Doctrine of Transubstantiation be true May we tempt God And have you duly considered what our Saviour saith Mat. 12. 7. If you had learned what this meaneth I will have Mercy and not Sacrifice ye would not have condemned the guiltless If in case of danger you should have and allow of a warm Bath should not you that are wont to call for express Scripture for Infant-Baptism be required to bring express Scripture for this warm Bath If you say they may stay till the heat of Summer where have you any Scripture for that Farther is it yet proved by any of you that Dipping was constantly used in the Scripture-times Is it plain or so much as probable that the Jaylor was dipt over head who was Baptized in the night in his house And does not the Greek word signifie to Wash as well as to Dip Is it not so taken when applied to other things as Mar. 7. 4 8 c. And is not the thing signified set forth by the phrase of Washing or Sprinkling and need the Sign exceed the thing signified See Isa 44. 3. Ezek. 36. 25. Joel 2. 28. 1 Cor. 6. 11. Tit. 3. 5. Heb. 10. 22. and 12. 24. 1 Pet. 1. 2. And if it was otherwise might it not be only occasional from a Reason proper to those hot Countries Where hath Christ appointed the measure of water or the manner of washing any more than he hath appointed in the Lords Supper what quantity of Bread and Wine each must take May not a little signifie as well as much as a clod of Earth doth in giving possession of much Lands c. 6. Is it not a breach of the seventh Commandment Thou shalt not commit Adultery to Dip persons naked or next to naked Doth not the seventh Commandment forbid all incitements to uncleanness and all immodest actions And is it not such to Baptize Women naked or next to naked Can that practice be of God which would turn Gods worship into contempt and make it ridiculous and bring a general reproach upon the Christian profession among all the Enemies of it yea among the most sober and discreet and that upon so probable grounds And to Dip persons cloathed will it not overthrow the Argument usually brought for the necessity of washing the whole Body Though the garment be washed yet may it not hinder the washing of some parts of the Body 7. What fruit of these things How many of you that instead of labouring after the winning of Souls from sin to God make it the main scope of your endeavours in publick and private to propagate your opinions How many of you make a great stir till you have brought poor Souls which is too easily done to place their Religion in being of your opinion here and being re-baptized How many of you are great hinderers of the Gospel and of the work of converting Souls making it your business to bring the Ministers of the Gospel into contempt Whether may not this be one thing that greatly confirmeth men in their enmity to the Doctrine of the Gospel and the Preachers thereof when they hear those despise the Ministry that once were constant hearors yea hear them perswading people that Ministers are Seducers false Prophets c. As if the first thing they had to learn was to sco●n their Teachers What way could be found out more effectual to make people disregard and despise the Gospel and so to ruin their own Souls than thus to teach them to vilifie the Messengers of the Gospel and perswade them that it is a vertue to reproach and forsake their Guides And whether the most of you do well that have made your Doctrine a ground of separation And that perswade people that it is a sin to hear our pretended Ministers as they have been called because they were never Baptized If you can make them believe that the Ministers are Seducers and that it is a Sin to hear them what good are they likely to receive by that Ministry And what a case was the Land in if all did believe as some of you teach And where the Gospel before prospered and Christians spent their time and conference in the edifying of each others Souls and in heavenly duties and lived together in unity and love according to the great command of Christ have not many of you when you have come turned this to vain janglings and unprofitable disputes and turned their Unity into Factions and Divisions and their Amity into Jealousies and Contentions yea how many a distracted family is there in England upon this account where one will pray and the other will not pray with him because he is unbaptized who were wont to Worship God in unity And here I would have ended Only there are two or three Queries more which offer themselves that I commend to your serious consideration Q. 1. Whether it be at all credible that Satan would be so charitable to Believers Infants
anothers sin or the Parents sin only imputed but for their own contracted As Mr. Baxter of Original Sin p. 135. The overthrow of both those Generations in the deluge spoken of Gen. 6. is a strange Medium to prove the Salvation of all their Infants which you hint at Antiq. 7. p. 6 And Rom. 5. 18. which you there cite will no more prove that all Infants that die Infants are saved then that all men are saved The free gift came upon all men unto justification of life This all must be limited to all in Christ Antiq. 22. p. 16. Whether God hath not said that His ways are all equal And whether this do not secure Infants of Gods mercy when God saith that the Son shall not bear the Iniquity of the Father and every one shall bear his own Iniquity whether this be not a promise of Mercy to Infant-children and that in respect of Eternal Life Here you imply that Gods ways are not equal if he shew not Mercy on all Infants if he give not Eternal li 〈◊〉 e unto all that die Infants And if you take these words every one shall bear his own Iniquity to be a promise of Eternal life to all Infants as such you must hold that no Infant hath any iniquity to bear and so wholly deny the doctrine of Original sin which I perceive you do though you will never be able to answer the Arguments and Scripture-evidence brought to prove it But you misapply the Scripture What is spoken of the Adult you apply to Infants a very common mistake of those of your way and perswasion In the 18. of Ezek. the Lord pleads with men that had too good a conceit of themselves and would cast the blame on others if they suffered as if they themselves were guiltless Vers 2. The Fathers have eaten sour Grapes and the childrens Teeth are set on edge q. d. Our Fathers have sinned and we their children smart and suffer for it Now the Lord to shew that his ways are equal declares that he that is righteous shall live vers 5. c. But if such a one hath a Son that proves wicked that Son shall die vers 10. c. Again if the Son of a wicked man sees and abhors his Fathers wicked courses if he be righteous he shall live and shall not bear his Fathers iniquity v. 14. c. yea if a man have been never so wicked yet if he repent and turn he shall surely live vers 21. c. But in all this there is no promise of Eternal life to all the Infant-seed of the wicked Antiq. 37. p. 29. And where are we taught to doubt the Salvation of the Infants of Pagans Sometimes we are troubled at some of your way that they seem to allow us no more ground of hope concerning the Seed of the Faithful then concerning the Seed of the Heathen and Pagans But if it be so clear that none are to doubt the Salvation of the Infants of Pagans we should rest satisfied and think it enough that the children of the faithful are put into so good a condition But I told you in my Treatise of the Covenants p. 359. That to assert the Salvation of all that die in Infancy seems to imply that Gods destroying the old world and Sodom c. were eminent Acts of Mercy rather then of Justice wherein such multitude of Souls were sent to Heaven together who if they had lived had probably at least the greatest part of them gone to Hell I desire you would remove this doubt of mine So likewise I cannot yet reconcile your opinion with that Reason the Lord gives for his sparing Nineveh Jonas 4. 11. which I also there took notice of Had there not been more Mercy suppose the Lord had taken away above sixscore thousand little ones that were not come to the use of reason if then they had all been undoubtedly saved then in sparing them with the City whereupon probably not one of very many of them was saved Help me over this doubt And if the Salvation of Pagans-Infants is not to be doubted as you suggest then suppose the French King should have power to over-run all the Pagan countries in the world though he spoiled plundered fired all the Towns where he came yet provided he did but withal slay all their little ones then will it not follow that he might be looked upon as a greater Blessing than Scourge to the world Had the world your light and knowledge they must conclude that they ought not to be so sorry for the spoiling of their Countries a temporal calamity as they should rejoyce have cause of rejoycing indeed that all their little ones were undoubtedly saved certainly sent to Heaven And then what shall we make of Eph. 2. 3. And were by nature the children of wrath even as others And v. 12. That all that time ye were without Christ being aliens from the Common-wealth of Israel and strangers from the Covenants of Promise having no hope and without God in the world Having no hope If there be no ground to doubt of the Salvation of their Infants is not here some hope But have you not forgotten that you told us you do not doubt but the promises made to the Seed of the Righteous and the promise of shewing mercy to the children of them that love God c. remain unrevoked How are those promises made to their Seed as such if as great mercy be ensured and secured procured by the death of Christ to and for all Infants that die Infants as you intimate Antiq 37. p. 14. and in other places And when you would have the blessing of Abraham understanding it of eternal life to belong to the Infants of the Gentiles as Antiq. 19. p. 14. if you understand and take in the Infants of the unbelieving as well as believing Gentiles then do not you forget that Expression Gal. 3. 14. That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles As to their Infants you here suppose it to have been on them all along and not to come on them by their Parents receiving the Promise through faith According to your opinion all Infants are and ever were blessed with faithful Abraham notwithstanding many of the Parents have been and are Pagans Infidels and such as the word Pronounces under a Curse Now how may divers of your own party such as you call Baptists justly object that to you which without ground they are wont to object against us you would make the promise of Salvation run unto a fleshly line indeed as Mr. Baxter notes in his Review p. 33. And who can forbid water now that Baptism is the initiatory Sign and Seal of the Covenant to any dying Infant of a Pagan since he may be confident the Blessings of the Covenant belong to it You query ubi supra Antiq. 37. p. 29. Will not the second Adams obedience salve the first Adams disobedience And Antiq. 38. p. 30. Whether the