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A15508	Charity mistaken, with the want whereof, Catholickes are vniustly charged for affirming, as they do with grief, that Protestancy vnrepented destroies salvation.	Knott, Edward, 1582-1656.; Matthew, Tobie, Sir, 1577-1655, attributed author.; Potter, Christopher, 1591-1646.; Potter, Christopher, 1591-1646. Want of charitie justly charged.	1630 (1630)	STC 25774; ESTC S102197	54,556	140

Iesus Christ and we pray and hope that before they part out of this life the merits of the said death passion of our Blessed Lord may be applyed to theyr soules by fayth and charity and penance by those Sacramēts and other conduits meanes of conueying and applying his grace and spiritual life to their soules which are onely to be found in the bosome of the holy Catholicke Church Without which Sacraments and other meanes the merits and blood of Christ our Lord though most apt and able in themselues to saue a thousand millions of worlds will neuer saue any one soule For in fine the merits of our Lord and the sinfull soules of men be two extreames of great distance from one another can neuer be brought to meet but by such wayes and meanes as the vnspeakeable power and wisedome goodnes of Almighty God hath found out for that purpose and those meanes are they which I haue already touched For if the merit of our Blessed Sauiours death were of it selfe to saue any one soule without the application thereof by the aforesaid meanes no reason at all could be assigned why any one soule should be lost as yet the farre greatet part of soules is sure to be So that we speake not so much of Protestants in thy kind as of the profession of heresy which they follow and we iudge no more of them vpon this reason but that whilest they liue in that Religion they estrange themselues from the right meanes of applying the merits of Christ our Lord to theyr soules whereby they might be saued But yet we hope neuertheles that God will haue so much mercy on many of them before they dy as to incorporate them into his mysticall body which is his true Church whereby they may partake the influence of that mercy and grace which is deriued from the head thereof Iesus Christ our Lord. And therefore it is plaine that we make not Protestācy to be at a sinne against the Holy Ghost which cannot be forgiuen because it will not be repented whereas Protestancy both may and often is repented of and consequently forgiuen to the end that it may be so we declare the grieuousnes of the sinne and we procure by all the meanes we can to remoue the same Nay we are so farre from accounting it a sinne against the Holy Ghost as that by our saying that Protestancy vnrepented excludes saluatiō we imploy no more then meerly that it is a mortall sinne For whosoeuer dyes impenitent of any one mortall sinne can neuer be saued S. Paul ad Galat and whosoeuer shall with true penance be sory and depart from his Protestancy though it be but in the last minute of his life will be capable of saluation So that we iudge not men in particular concerning their saluation of damnation but yet on the other side we must not be afrayd to affirme though we are cordially sory for hauing cause to doe it that they who dye impenitent either of Protestancy or any other sinne which depriues the soule of the grace of God cannot be saued For such men as these are iudged already in generall by the mouth of God but which of them in his particular shall be taken before he dy out of that vnhappy hearde of goates and placed in that blessed flocke of sheepe by the hād of the good shepheard we leaue to his owne vnsearcheable determinatiō And therfore as we take not the office of Iudge out of his hand because we cannot come to know whether this or that particular sinner may not repent before he dye so yet we may safely say that a man who liues in Protestancy or any other mortall sinne and who is so farre from repenting it though he be sufficiētly informed thereof as that he will not so much as acknowledge it to be a sinne and who for ought we know or canne learne did no way retract or reuerse it so much as at the hower of his death departs this life in a state which is greatly to be lamented and withall that if he repented himselfe as little of it indeede in the sight of God as in our sight he seemed to doe there canne be no doubt with vs so longe as we beleeue our Religion to be true but that such a person dyed without saluation as departing in the obstinate profession of a different Religion which we esteeme to be false And the same must they also beleeue of vs mutatis mutandis if indeede they beleeue their owne Religion to be true Christian religion of which Christ himselfe pronounced Qui non crediderit condemnabitur That our saying that Protestancy vnrepented destroyes saluatiō proceedes from want of Charitie in vs is no lesse vntrue because there is but one true Church then already I haue shewed it to be improbable and first this is proued by holy scripture CHAPTER III. HItherto I haue been shewing how vtterly improbable it is euen prima facie that we should censure Protestancy or Protestants through want of Charitie and withall what that motiue is which induces vs to let them know the extreamity of danger wherein they are or that when we hold any such discourse it is so farre from being an effect of want of Charitie in vs towards them as that it only proceedes from our deepe compassion of their case which is the most sweete pretious fruite of that soueraigne vertue My endeauour now shal be to shew that this charge of vncharitablenes against vs is not only improbable but vniust also vntrue And that in carrying our selues herein as we doe we not only not swarue from our duty to them but if we should doe otherwise we should fayle of that obedience which we owne to Almighty God himselfe who exacts the performance of this office at the handes of his holy Catholicke Church And now for the clearing of this point in such sort as that it may satisfie doubtfull mindes it will first be fit to premise some few groundes vpon which I may the better build vp that truth which I am about to declare I will not offer here to prooue that there is a God because now I haue not to doe which professed Atheistes nor yet that Christ our Lord is the true sonne of God who suffered death for the redemptiō of the world because we liue not amongst Iewes But for as much as there are such differences of opinion concerning that Religion and Church which was founded and framed by Christ our Lord I will briefely shew in the first place that Almighty God did found one Church and but one and that he ordained one Religion wherein he would be serued and but one and that out of that Communion there is no saluation In the second place I will make it appeare that the vnity which is to be maintained amongst the members of this one true Church and the professors of this one Religion is directly broken betweene Catholickes and

in his Religion and for a most infamous and base person in his conuersation And we may see now further that S. Paule that vessell of election that man who had beene rapt to the third heauen add who had in his heart such a flaming fornace of Charity as to desire to be made Anathema for the saluation of his brethren doth most aboundantly declare the wofull state or all heretickes and schismatickes He requires men to auoid an heretick if he reform not himselfe after one or two reproofes and he names Haereticum hominem indefinitely without specifying in particular what his heresie may be more or lesse He sayth also that an Hereticke is condemned euen by his owne iudgment ad Tit. 3 That their speech is like a Cancer whiche creepes and kills That they attend to the spirit of errour and the Doctrine of diuells That they are hyppocrites and lyers couetous arrogant and blasphemous That they take the apparance of piety vpon them but yet renounce the vertue and substance hereof That they are euer learning but without attayning to the knowledge of truth That as Iannes and Mambres resisted Moyses so doe these also resist the truth being corrupt in minde and reprobates concerning the faith but that they shall not preuaile but their folly shal be made manifest to al as that of Iannes and Mambres was That they haue itching eares which they turne away from hearing the truth S. Iude. And S. Iude saith they ar dūbe Beasts vnfruitful trees twise dead rooted vp cloudes without water waues of a tempestuous sea which beate themselues into the some of their owne confusion for whom the storme of of eternall darknes is reserued and that they are men who walke the way of Cain and Baalam and who perish in the contradiction of Core By all which kind of language a man may easily perceaue how farre both the Apostle S. Paule S. Iude also accounted them to be from saluation whoe haue deuided themselues from the Catholicke Church by heresie or schisme And S. Paule sayth in cleere termes That the workes of the flesh are manifest Galat. cap. 5. which whosoeuer cōmits shall not possesse the kingdome of God Amongst which he reckons expresly contentions emnities dissentions and Sects c. which word Sects in Latin is Heresie in Greeke Now if any one heresie be damnable what shall they be when they come in clusters And if their soules be to be lost who fall into emnity and contentions without repenting themselues hereof what shall become of those miserble creatures who violate maligne and wound the whole mystical body of Christ our Lord which is his Church As for the Fathers De praes aduersus haeret they are as bright as day in this point Tertullian saith that if they be heretikes they cannot be accounted Christians S. Cyprian is expresse and large in this argument and sayth thus Lib. 4. Epist 2. de vnit Eccles Adulterari non potest Sponsa Christi c. The Spouse of Christ cannot be adulterated she is incorrup and chaste she knowes one house purely consernes the Chastity of one bed-chamber It is she who keeps vs for God she sets them forth for his kingdome whome she hath begotten Whosoeuer is separated from the Church and is ioyned to an adultres is separated also from those promises which belonge to the Church nor shall he arriue to the rewards of Christ who forsake the Church of Christ He is an alien he is a prophane person and he is an enemy He can no longer haue God for his Father who hath not the Church for his Mother If a man might haue escapte drowning without being in the Arck of Noe he shall also be able to escape who is out of the Church Ibid. He also saith thus afterwards They cannot remaine with God because they would not continue of one minde in the Church of God Though their bodies should be deliuered to be burnt in the fier or that they should be deuoured by wild beasts such a death would not be a Crown of faith but a punishment of perfidiousnes in them nor would it be a glorious end of their vertue but a destructiō following vpon despaire Such a man may be killed but cannot be crowned Iust so doth he professe himselfe to be a Christian as the diuell doth often falsely affirme himselfe to be Christ according to what our Lord him selfe did forewarme and tell vs thus Many will come in my name saying I am the Christ and they shall deceaue many But as he is not Christ though he shall deceaue many vnder the colour of that name so neither can that man be accompted a Christian who remaines not in his doctrine and faith And in another place he also saith Quisquis 〈◊〉 est lib. 4. Epist 2. whosoeuer he be and what kinde of man soeuer he be he is no Christian who is not in the Church of Christ The like or rather the very same words are vsed by S. Augustine Serm. 181. de tēp else where also he saith thus to certaine heretickes How can you brag Symb. ad Catecum c. 10. Quomodo vos cam c. Lib. 2. contra Gaudon cap. 12. that you hold fast the Faith which our Lord left to his Apostles would you haue men so blind and deafe as not to heare or read the ghospell where they may know what faith our Lord left to his Apostles concerning his Church from which since you are deuided and separated you doe no other thing then rebell against the words both of the body and of the head and yet the while you bragge that you endure persecution for the Sonne of man and for the faith which he recōmended to his Apostles And thē doth the Saint put himselfe to shew our of Scripture That this is that Church of Christ which is spread ouer the whole world De vnit Eccl. Ad ipsam c. The same holy Father saith also No man cōmeth to saluation or life euerlasting who hath not Christ for his head and no man can haue Christ for his head who is not in his bodie which is the Church And els where hee discourseth thus Epi. 152. quisquis ab hac c. whosoeuer is separated from the Catholicke Church how laudably soeuer he may conceaue himselfe to liue yet he shall not haue life but the wrath of God remainesh vpon him for this only crime of being seuered from the Society of Christ And to conclude for asmuch as concernes S. Augustines authority touching this point let this following speech of his be well pondered whereby it will appeare that Cardinall Petron said well when he taught that the name Catholicke was not only a name of beliefe and faith but of Charity also and Communion which whosoeuer should want would also want saluation though he were not wanting in points of faith let vs hearken to S. Augustine who deliuers himselfe thus Et

beliefe of the holy Scripture it selfe and consequently of all the other greatest points We differ about the Primacie of S. Peter and his successours yea and about the infallibility of generall Councells and so therefore about the supreme iudge on earth of all our controuersies in Religion We differ about the iustification of soules and the value which the death and grace of Christ our Lord hath imparted to the workes of the children of God We differ in a world of particulars about the article of holy Catholicke Church and namely whether it must alwayes be visible or noe euen to the eyes of men and whether it must alwayes be free frō errour and fallibility We differ about the Communion of Saincts whether we may either pray for thē who are in Purgatory or to thē who are in heauen And we differ not only about these and many other most importāt points as mē who ar ready to relinquish their opiniōs if they be cōmāded but we ar on both sides resolued to persist though both the Catholicke Church in her counsells and the Protestants in their seuerall Confessions haue declared that their owne opinions are true and the contrary false and though we on the one side haue cast excommunication vpon the new deniers of those doctrines of ours which we haue receaued frō Christ our Lord his Apostles and they on the other haue filled their parts of the world which scurrill blasphemous inuectiues against those sayd Doctrines of ours and haue taken vpon themselues to be the reformers of the Church though without either ordinary mission or miracles and to be true publishers of the ghospell and euen the very illuminatours of the world And now therefore let that be considered once for all which hath formerly ben shewed about the stile of holy Scripture Fathers which speake those said things of Heresies and Hereticks without specifying in particular what they are And let it also be called to minde what Catalogues the Fathers of the Primitiue Church haue made of heresies whereof many abstracting frō the pride and disobedience which thereby is committed against the Church are neither of so great importance in themselues or at least not great at all in respect of those many most important Articles which ar mutually affirmed or denied betwene the Protestants and vs. For what imported it all that some were so foolish as to hold al men bound by Scripture to put of their shoes when they prayed yet S. Augustine cited them for heretickes in his Catalogue But the pride wherewith they presumed to abuse Scripture and to impose such a fond law vpon mēs cōsciences a resolutiō not to leaue it when they were commaunded by the Church was that which made it heresy in them Or what Article of the Creede or what book of Scripture or what sacramēt of the Church did the Quartodecimani deny or what errour did they introduce but only the celebrating of Easter at another time then was ordained by the Church and yet for this doth S. Austin inroll them in the rancke of heretickes the same I might exemplifie in many other particulars Presumption and pride which is expressed by choosing obstinatly maintaining of any doctrine or discipline cōtrary to the iudgment and commaundement of the Catholicke Church and by refusing to submit therein to the same Church is that wherein the very life spirit of Schisme and Heresie doth consist And the question is not here whether the point vpon which the Schisme or heresie is grounded be in it selfe of so great importance yea or no but whether there be in the hearte of any priuate man or men such a diabolicall degree of obstinacy and pride as to preferre their owne sence and Iudgment in things belonging to the faith and worship of our Lord God before the resolution and direction of his holy Catholicke Church which is his spouse his kingdome his house his Sanctuary and his citty which was made the treasure house of grace the foundation and pillar of truth the depositary of the holy Ghost and the heire of most faithfull and firme promises that euen the gates and power of Hell it selfe should neuer be able to preuaile against it And now I say if there be found such a sinne as this in the soule of man as to preferre his owne poore dictamens before the decrees of this Church it is so very enormous so barbarous so wholy out of the way of al Religion of reason of nature and euen of common sence it sauours of such a spirituall and infernall presumption so much the more cordially to be first lamented and then detested because it is cloaked vnder the collour of the ghospell and Christian liberty and I know not what of that kind that really it can deserue no other place or degree of punishment then Hell it selfe And now that all this is true namely that heresie cōsistes not in the material beliefe of a false doctrine for the contrary thereof perhaps was not sufficiently propounded to be belieued but in the disobedience to the Church after it is propoūded that famous exāple of S. Cyprian and the Donatistes may serue for prooffe For S. Cypriā was of the first who fel vpō the doctrine of rebaptization of such as had beene baptized by Hereticks and the Donatists afterward succeeded in the same But in S. Cyprian it was but errour because the Church of his time had not absolutely condemned it but growing after to condemned in the Donatists time it was Heresie in them not to forsake it Which drew Vincentius Lirinensis to make this exclamation O admirable change of things the authours of an opinion are held Catholicks and the followers of the selfe same are iudged hereticks And S. Cyprian himselfe declares the same in substance vpō a like occasion concerning others For when one inquired of him what that erroneous doctrine was which Nouatianus the schismatick had taught his answere to his friend was directly this Thou must know that we should not be curious what that doctrine is which he teaches since he is out of the Church teachinge clearly therby that not the quality of the doctrine but the pride of the man is that which makes the hereticke And in deede if this were not the rule whereby heresies and schismes must be knowne it were impossible to conclude what were an heresie or a schisme and so also there should fall out to be no heresie in effect at all which might not be compatible with saluation Now this opinion is not only contrary to the current of holy Scriptures and Fathers and to the beliefe and practise of the Catholicke Church of all ages but euen of the Protestants themselues who condemne not only vs but one an another also as is abundantly shewed the Authour of the Protestants Apologie c. for the Roman Church and especially in the place cited in the Margine fol. 408. where he cites Luther expresly saying thus We

or which the Lutherans or such other fellow ghospellers of theirs at this day or indeed euen with vs Catholickes if things as they say may be considered with moderation and all this they take to be secured by distinguishing points of faith into Fundamentall and not Fundamentall and then by saying that they agree both with the Fathers and Lutheranes and sometimes of their curtesie euen with vs in all fundamentall points of faith and that they differ but in points not fūdamentall It is a matter of great momēt that this particular conceit be carefully sifted and discouered and therefore I wil aske leaue that the next Chapter may be spent about it That Protestants haue no reason in alleadging the distinction of fundamentall not fundamētall points or faith as intending to prooue thereby that they are in vnity with the Fathers of the Primitiue Church of their fellow Brethren the Lutherans yea and some times with Catholickes at this day CHAPTER VIII BOth Luther and Caluin their next disciples yea and many Protestants also of these dayes haue familiarly in their sermons and no lesse frequētly in their bookes taken liberty with euery pennefull of incke to dash as it were damnation into our eyes and directly to affirme that they departed frō the Communion of the Church of Rome because forsooth they found it to be the seate of Antichrist the Synagogue of Satan the very Center of superstition and Idolatry and finally that bloody tyrant which exercised all immaginable cruelty against the Saints of God for many ages and which poisoned the world with false prophanes doctrines of extreme dishonour vnto Almighty God And indeede with what collour could certaine single base and filthie men haue presumed to depart frō the visible Catholicke Church of Christ our Lord and to erect their conuenticles as they did if they had not ar least professed that they could not finde saluation there For if they had said that they might haue found it there they could not so much as haue pretended to iustifie their departure from thence But yet neuerthelesse now that many moderne Protestants haue beene taught by time that the straits into which they fall are great by protesting against our saluatiō in that kind they haue been content now and then to desire better quarter at our hands and to affirme that the differences betweene them and vs concerne not the fundamentall points of faith but only such as are not fundamentall that therefore for their parts they hold we may be saued if we leade good liues in our Religion and that they desire the like attestation of vs for them and thas it is but tyranny and cruelty in the Catholicke Romane Church which keepes from allowing it since vpon the matter the Religions of vs both are the same the Churches in effect the same And this is that which lightens as they thinke our chardge of them and still keepes theirs heauy vpon vs as being vncharitable in not allowing them saluation This discourse of theirs and their standing so much vpon fundamentall points of faith in the sense which they vse is a mere Chimera but it is frequented by them through a high kind of craft For though it be most true that some doctrines are in themselues of farre more importance then some others because the knowledge thereof may be necessary for the performance of some duty which is required at our hands or else because they may containe the very heads and first grounds of Christianity more then others doe and therefore do exact a more explicite beliefe at the hands of Christians and consequently may be accounted in some respects more fundamentall yet so on the other side there is no doctrine at all concerning Religiō the beliefe whereof is not fundamentall to my saluation if the Catholicke Church which is the spouse of Christ our Lord propound and commande me to belieue it For there is no errour in faith which may not be made damnable by the manner of holding it when it is done so obstinately as that in defence thereof a man denies the authority of the Catholicke Church This is vnanswereably prooued by the meere Catalogues of heresies which haue been made by seuerall Fathers of the primitiue Church and especially by S. Austin in his treatise ad Quod vult Deū which I haue toucht before and which I earnestly exhort my reader to peruse at large For therein he noteth diuerse which consist but of single erroneous doctrines and they of litle importance in themselues as was declared in a former chapter But yet for as much as they were obstinately imbraced they were there declared to be so fundamentall as that he was noe Christian Catholicke who belieued any one of them yea or who should afterward belieue any other which might chaunce to be condemned by the Catholicke Church Looke backe vpon the example of S. Cyprian in the 6. chapter for there you will find that the selfe same doctrine of Rebaptization which was not fundamētall to him in regard that the Church had not then defined it the same I say was fundamentall afterward to the Donatistes and made them Heretickes because then it was defined and yet still maintained by them Looke backe to see in the same place what the nature of true faith is which is not only that it be absolutely entire in itselfe but that the meanes of propounding the Articles thereof be also both certaine and absolutely infallible or else there will be no faith at all See also in the same Chapter where the forme and spirit of heresie is found to consist in the pride and disobedience wherewith any doctrine or discipline of the Church is disobeyed and then withall cast an eye vpon that which you may find in the fifte Chapter of this discourse about the iudgment which is pronounced there both by Scriptures Fathers about the vnsaueablenes of any soule which is guilty of the least heresie or schisme and separation from the one and only true Church of Christ our Lord. For by this meanes it will appeare most euidently that the distinction of Faith into Fundamentall and not Fundamentall points to the purpose of permitting it in a mans liberty to leaue any one of them vnbelieued wirhout preiudice to saluation is both friuolous dangerous and vtterly false and so I shall be excused frō growing into length by making vnnecessary repetitions which I am most carefull to auoid But in the meane time I should be glad to know of the authours of this distinctiō what points of their faith which are controuerted eitheir betweene them or vs or betweene the Lutherans and them are fundamentall and which are not fundamentall The very nature of the words seeme to shewe that a fundamentall point of faith is such an one as is most necessarily to be belieued and that whosoeuer belieues it not cannot be saued And that so also on the other side a man may take his liberty either to belieue as he

since Moyses time which furnished vs with the first proofe that there must be vnity in Religion and obedience in the professours thereof that such as should obstinately trangresse were ordained to be put to a first death which might serue them for a Preface to their second destruction Which truth being once graunted I trust they will not take it ill at our hands if we hope well of our selues in our owne way and consequently if we conceaue that we haue no cause to hope well of them if they dy impeditent in theirs they haue no reason to be offēded with vs and the lesse since the Lutherans declare so expresly and resolutely that the Resolution of the Sacramentaries that is to say of our English Protestants is also damnable as hath been seene And this not only for the heresie which they hold in point of the Sacrament but for many others also as appeares by those authours of theirs whom I cited before So that still I see lesse and lesse colour why they should except against vs as if we wanted charity for saying that of them which when they list they not only take liberty to say of vs but euen of one another also and yet do not thinke that they offend Charitie therein As for vs we neither do nor can with any reason conceaue that they breake the lawe of charity towards vs supposing their owne Religion to be true in that they allow not saluation to vs if we dye in ours which consequently must be false And if ours be a false Religion as it must needes be if their Church be true and that we obstinately refuse to obay it we cannot be saued by the profession thereof And so therefore on the other side if ours be true as euen they must giue vs leaue to thinke it and as infallibly we belieue it to be theirs must then be no lesse false then ours is true Now supposing this on both sides it will not be want of Charity in either of vs both to hold and declare the others Religion to be incōpatible with saluation nay it will be want of Charity if we do it not For men are not so made for them selues as that they must not also procure to do their neighbours good and especially in that which most imports And besides the generall tye of one part of mankind to another whereof we are put in minde so many wayes the holy Scripture it selfe is often pointing vs out to our duty in this kind and most especially it doth in one passage of Ecclesiasticus lay a direct obligation vpon vs in these most binding words Cap. 17. Mandauit vnicuique Deus de proximo suo God hath laied a charge vpon euery man that he looke to his neighbour Which as it warrants not the busie or medling humour of any priuate man to intrude himselfe into the secret affaires of another nor obliges him so much as euen to the reprooffe of his knowne sinnes when he hath neither charge ouer that person nor hath hope of amendement by it and when it is not agreable otherwise to the circumstāces and rules of charity which ought to be conducted and carryed on by Christian prudence so yet on the otherside it layes not only a Counselle but a strict commandement not only vpon some one but vpon euery one not to omit opportunity whereby a man may prudently be in hope either to doe his neighbour any important good or else to diuert him from any thing which may doe him any considerable hurt Now if a priuate man must not only be excused if according to the rules of Christian piety and prudence he assist his neighbour in doing well and declaring the danger wherein he is if he doe otherwise but he shall not be excusable in the sight of God if he dischardge not this duty how much more highly shall the Church of Christ our Lord be both authorized and obliged to instruct Christians in the right way and to reduce such others as are in the wrong by making them vnderstand their danger of euerlasting damnation Nay we see by that which past betweene Almighty God and the Prophet Ezechiel that he was appointed to stand Centinell ouer the house of Israel and to heare Gods word out of his owne mouth and so to announce it to his people in his name and that God said thus to him Si dicente me ad impium c. Ezechiel cap. 3. If when I shall say to the wicked mā thou shalt dye the death thou declare it not to him nor aduise him to returne from his wicked way that he may liue that wicked man shall dy in his iniquity but I will require his blood at thy handes But if thou anounce it to him and that yet he will not returne from his sinne and from his wicked way that man indeed shall dye in his owne sinne but as for thee thou shalt haue freed thy soule from death Now therefore if a single Prophet being called to that office by Almighty God be obliged vnder the paine of his owne damnation to aduise men to depart from their wickednes how much more precisely will this obligation lye vpon the Church of God which hath the chardge ouer all Christian soules to teach them that Doctrine which is true and to let them see the danger wherein they are of hell fire if they continue to professe that which is false For the word of God whether it be written in holy Scripture or vnwritten and so deliuered from hand to hand by Tradition is his reuealed will and the Church is his Embasadour Leidger in this world to declare and announce that word and will of his to mankind and to bring them into league with God as S. Paule affirmed of him selfe and of the other Pastours and Doctours of the Church 2. Cor. 5 Legatione pro Christo fungimur c. We are Embassadours on the part of Christ with instructions for the reconciling of man to God And accordingly S. Paule was carefull to let men see their case and to declare the danger wherein sinners were For we haue seene how he warned men to take heede of the speech of hereticks as of a Cancer and else where to auoid them if they did not first reforme them selues after they had beene reprooued once or twice as also that such as departed from the vnity of faith were people who attended to the spirit of Errour and to the Doctrine of diuells and a great deale more of that kind which you shall find related before in the ninth chapter which clearly and fully shewes what opinion the holy Scripture hath of heretickes Besides all this if a man shall eternally be damned for committing of one theft or one act of simple fornication vnles he repent himselfe thereof before he dy Gal. 5. Cōsulta decapes relig which is cleare by S. Paules expresse text much more as Father Lessius shewes shall he incurre those eternall torments

the honour and pleasure of this world carryes noe proportion at all with that of the next any more then idle dreames doe with strong truthes or vaine shadowes with substance which is substance indeede For in this life whatsoeuer delight is felt the minde of man is still too hard for the body and ouer works it doth secretly either giue or take a kind of lye and insatisfaction euen in the topp of all the greatest pleasure which it feeles though dull people vnderstand not or obserue not this But if for any one instāt a soule could haue any one glimpse of celestiall blisse and be ingulfed with all the facultyes thereof vpon an obiect of such infinite perfection as God is and that this were done without the interposition or interpretation of any creature but that the whole soule might touch and mingle and vnite it selfe for that instant with that soueraigne obiecte O how fully would the soule be satisfied O how base how beastiall would all the delight and glory of this world both appeare and be in respect of that We may see some traces of this truth by a consideration of those supernatural visitations and spirituall illustrations eleuations whereby our Lord hath been pleased to descend into the soules of innumerable seruants and Spouses of his euen in this life that so they might be enabled to take in as it were some little sent and ayre of that eternall blisse which is prepared for them in the next Yea how many haue there beene who formerly being all immersed in the pursuite of terrene honour and delight haue by the meanes of some one celestiall visitation been instantly and for euer estranged and that with extreme contempt from the care of all the carnal ioye and greatnes which this world was able to afford them ane haue been fixed with a perpetuall eye vpon the most ardent loue and most loyall faithfull seruice of our Lord God The storyes of our Saints liues and our owne experience in conuersation with spirituall persons which through the goodnes of God are neuer wanting in his holy Catholicke Church hath made vs not only see this truth but euen as it were to touch it with our fingers ends And yet there can be no doubt but that all the spirituall visitations and consolations and extasies and rapts which euer shall be or haue bene felt and suffered in this life by all the seruants of God and yet in some one of them we know that S. Paule was taken vp into the third heauen and that he was possessed with the vnderstanding and feeling of so high mysteries as it was neither lawfull not possible for man to expresse are most poore and meane thinges in comparison of any one moment of ioy in Heauen And the reason hereof is cleare For whatsoeuer spirituall gift is imparted in this life is but by image and representation but in the next it is in substance and face to face with God himselfe where he is seene as he is indeede If then one instant of celestiall glory be not only so farre exceeding all carnall ioy and pleasure which is but dust and trash being compared with that other but that also euen the highest spirituall gust and ioy which is experimēted in this life be not able once to subsist in sight of one moment of that glorious ioye which is felt in heauē though it be but for one instant how infinitely must we find our selues obliged to this immortal God of ours who hath vouchsafed not to ty vs to instants of time in the fruition of that glory but to enlarge and extend it I say not to yeares or ages or worlds of time but as farre as perfect eternity it selfe In comparison whereof the time of all this world from Adam to this day and a million of millions as much time as that and as many more millions as all the hearts of all men can comprehend and count are not so much in durance as one minute is being compared with all those milliōs of time And yet all this eternity of such glory as I haue described is vouchsafed to vs by the inexhausted goodnes of our Lord God for hauing produced any one single acte of Faith and Loue which yet we see may be innumerably multiplied with so much case For any one single thought which is directed to the glory of our Lord God doth increase the same grace in our soules and consequently layes vp a distinct degree of that eternall glory wherof we haue spoken So that it is a cleare and constant truth that for euery other good thought which may be conceaued in any one moment of time we shall haue an increase of eternall glory in a distinct degree beyond that which otherwise we should haue had and we shall for euer see more perfectly the immortall Essence of Almighty God and loue it more and enioy it more then we should haue done if we had not produced that one single act of minde which yet as I sayd may be done by any ignorant or silly creature in the world in any one moment of his time And yet withall we are so miserable as not to lamēt that this time should be lost not only vpon toyes and consequently vpon not increasing this stocke of immortall treasure but euen vpon committing of sinnes which doe no thing but horde vp an eternity of immense torments for vs insteede thereof We Catholickes must be thankefull and beg grace withall that we may cōtinue where we are and we must beg it also for such others as are not and will not be so happy yet to the end that contemning all the vaine delights and honours of this world which may intice them and all the disaduantages troubles which may threaten them they may giue themselues vp now at last to be receaued into the bosome of the holy Catholicke Apostolicke Romane Church and so to be embraced by those strong armes of that diuine protection and cōfort which Christ our Lord her Spouse hath endewed her with for the sauing of those soules for which he died Our Lord God make them so happy as to receaue this blessing and let all his Saints and Angels euer glofiry his holy name for hauing imparted it to vs. FINIS A TABLE OF THE CHAPTERS CHAPTER 1. THAT Catholickes are both improbably and vniustly charged with lacke of Charity for affirming that Protestancy vnrepented destroyes saluation Chapter 2. Of the intention of Catholickes when they say that Protestancy vnrepented destroies saluation how that speech is to be vnderstood Chapter 3. That our saying that Protestancy vnrepented destroies saluation proceedes frō want of Charity in vs is no lesse vntrue because there is but one true Church then already I haue shewed it to be improbable and first this is proued by holy Scripture Chapter 4. The expresse vnity of the Church is also proued by the authority of the Fathers of the most primitiue times Chapter 5. It is proued both by holy Scriptures Fathers that out of this one true Church of Christ our Lord no saluation is to be found Chapter 6. That both Catholickes Protestāts cannot possibly be accompted to be of one the same Religion Faith and Church Chapter 7. Three obiections ar auoided which they make against vs to disproue our vnity in faith amongst our selues and so also is an allegation about Fundamētal points of faith wherby they would shewe that they hold as much vnity both with the Fathers and with the Lutherans yea and euen with vs Catholickes at this day as they are bound to maintaine Chapter 8. That Protestants haue no reason in alledging the distinction of fundamentall and not fundamentall points of faith as intending to proue thereby that they are in vnity with the Fathers of the Primitiue Church or of their fellow brethren the Lutherans yea and some times with Catholickes at this day Chapter 9. That Protestants neither do nor dare declare what are their fundamentall points of faith wherby yet they would pretend that they liue in the communion of the only one true Church of our Lord. Chapter 10. A recapitulation of the whole discourse wherein followes vpon the confession of both parties that the Catholickes and Protestants be not both of them sauable in their seueral Religions without repentance thereof before they dye and Catholickes must therefore be no longer held vncharitable for saying so but those Protestāts are shewed to be Libertines who say the contrary The Conclusion FAVLTES ESCAPED in the printing Faultes Corrected Pag. 8 l. 1 as man as a man 17 l. 2 we owne we owe 21 l. 29 hadū commaded had commaūded 24 l. 26 persisting persisting 30 l. 24 did it much did it with much 32 l. 28 doctrine or doctrine of 36 l. 16 of of eternall of eternall 38 l. 1. who forsake who forsakes 41 l. 2 these Saint elwhere the Saint else where 51 l. 10 to condemned to be condemned 55 l. 28 title of booke title of a booke 68 l. 9 particular studied particularly studied 70 l. 22 or argumt or argument 93 l. 9 execrable of execrable assertiō of 101 l. 4. of ou●● soules of our soules 110 l 6 and Polycarpe and S. 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