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A09292 A defence of that which hath bin written in the questions of the ignorant ministerie, and the communicating with them. By Iohn Penri Penry, John, 1559-1593. 1588 (1588) STC 19604; ESTC S101169 21,857 64

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according to the grace giuen vnto other Apostles the generall name of whose Apostleship I am entituled with A ridiculous speeche it were to saye mine apostleshipp hath receiued grace but I that am the apostle haue receiued none How then may our readers claime a preachinge ministerye vnto themselues seing the ministery which they challenge is altogether in them with out a gifte though it be not so in others 4 Euery vnpreaching minister sinneth in executing the works of a pastoral function as the sacraments c therefore he hath no ministery and so nyether a pastorall nor doctorall function Hee hath no ministery because his calling is not the calling of the ministery his callinge is not the calling of the ministerye because hee sinneth in intermedlinge withe the workes thereof And this is an infallible trueth that no man sinneth because he dealeth with the workes of his calling For this is the duety that God requireth at the hands of euery man Manye sinne in deede because they walk corruptly in their callings haue no care to glorifie God therin Col. 3.17 But leaue thy corruption and thou sinnest not in keeping thee to the works of thy calling The hypocrits in the daies of Isayah 1.13 sinned not because they offered sacrifice but because they did the same through hypocrisie Their hypocrisie they ought to haue lefte but not his seruice in sacrificing according to his commaundement but our readers though they should with as little corruption and as great zeale to Gods glory and the good of his Churche as any men deale in the workes of a pastoral ministery yet they should stil do that which the Lord had forbidden them to doe whence it appeareth that the works of the ministery are not the works of their caling For God forbiddeth no man to deale therewith not the being workes of their calling they are no ministers and haue neyther pastorall nor doctorall function 5 This is farther shewed forasmuch as the Lorde doeth not commit vnto bare reders the charge of those souls ouer whom they are which he doth vnto euerye one that hath a pastorall function Acts. 20.16.28 1 thes 5.12 Heb. 13.17 For to what ende else should he commit a ministerye vnto anye who haue soules vnder their charge The Church indeed may cōmit the souls of men vnto reders but certainly the Lord committeth none vnto them And he is no minister vnto whom the Lorde doth not cōmite this charge as the places before quoted do shew For the Lord hath in his word ordained not onely offices the executors whereof shoulde haue the ouersight of soules but also the persons who were to execute those functions 1. Cor. 12.28 1. Pet. 4.10 rom 12.6.7.8 Ephes 4.7.11 Now vnpreaching ministers are non of those persons because the Lorde knoweth thē not to bee able to feede soules And let not men bee so iniurious vnto the Lorde as to affirme that hee according vnto his reuealed ordinance for therof I speke as of a ministery not of his secret iudgments bequeathed the soules of men to be starued and kept from saluation As hee must needes be conuinced to doe if he bequeathed them vnto those men the dispensation of whose ministery is able to beget none feede none saue none you must vnderstande againe that I speake of the ministery whereby readers are ministers that is of their owne and not of the ministery whereby preaching ministers are ministers wherewith readers haue nothing to doe Moreouer howe can the Lorde bee saide to commit the charge of soules according to his owne reuealed ordinance vnto those who may truely obiect vnto him that he dealeth iniuriously with thē by exacting those thinges to bee perfourmed at their handes and in their owne persons as necessary duties of their callings vnto the performaunce whereof they haue receiued no abilitie from him Is man to bee aunswerable vnto the Lorde of that which he neuer receyued doth the Lorde require the vse of that tallent which hee neuer bestowed doth he laye that vpon any whereof hee may haue iuste cause to complaine when did hee impose a charge vpon any vnto whom he gaue not gifts to discharge the same now the charge of soules whiche he committeth vnto anye hee requireth at their handes vnto whom he hath cōmitted it which he could not doe if hee had not giuen abilitie to the discharge thereof What then shall ignoraunt ministers be free from the blood of souls in asmuch as the lord neuer cōmitted any soule vnto their charge It were well with thē poore men if the case so stood But alas it is not so And yet the cause of their destruction proceedeth not from their vnfaithfulnesse in the discharge of that vocation whiche hee hath allotted vnto them but it commeth iustly vpon them in that they haue desperatly thrust thēseiues contrary vnto Gods reuealed will vpon those men with the ouersight of whose soules God neuer trusted such as they are The Lord sayth vnto them intrude your seiues and you will vnto the places of pastors and so enforce me to bring heauy swift damnation vpon you but surely I wil bequeath no soule vnto your custodye They on the other side in their practise say Lord whether thou committest vnto vs any charge of any soule or no wee care not but rather then wee shoulde not haue the meanes to liue in this life for this is their onely scope in continuinge in the ministerye require the blood of soules and what thou wilte at our hands And so senseles men they sell them-selues body and soule vnto euerlasting wo and destruction The pretence that the Lord committeth the chardge of soules vnto their ministery and not vnto them is first a desiring of that in question for they are denyed to haue any ministery and otherwise many wais vnsufficient 1 Because the Lord committeth not the charge of soules there where the punishement of their destruction cannot take holde as it can not vpon the ministery Act. 20.28 2 the ministry is but a dead thing of it self most beautifull in deed as being an ordinance of the Lorde but able to saue none vnlesse it be committed vnto a person who in the execution therof is able to shew himself to be appointed of God for that glorious worke This is taught Ephes 4. where the Apostle verses 6 and 7. hauing spoken of the giftes bestowed vpon men for this ministeriall work ascribeth vers 11.12 the gathering together of the sayntes not vnto the giftes or functions but vnto men endued with the sayde giftes For he doth not say that the Lord hath appointed for the gathering together of the saynts an apostleshipp a pastorall or doctorall function c. but that he ordained apostles pastors c. for that end and purpose whereunto because our readers were not appoynted it forcibly ensueth that they haue no ministery no pastorall or doctorall function and so are no ministers which conclusiō also in the last edition of mine Exhortation vnto my