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A19668 Fryer Iohn Frauncis of Nigeon in Fraunce A replication to that lewde aunswere, which Fryer Iohn Frauncis (of the Minimes order in Nigeon nigh vnto Paris in Fraunce) hath made to a letter, that his mother caused to be written, and sent to him out of England, in August. 1585. Wherevnto is annexed an aunswere, to that which the same fryer hath written to his father and mother: in defence, and to the prayse of that religion, which he dooth nowe professe: and to the disprayse and defacing of that religion, which is nowe professed in Englande. Whereof the fryer himselfe was a scholler and professor, vntill the yeere 1583. which was the 18. yeere of hys age. VVritten by Robert Crowley. Anno. 1586. Crowley, Robert, 1518?-1588.; Debnam, Samuel. 1586 (1586) STC 6091; ESTC S109119 122,478 144

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force of the fire of Gods spirit which in hys good time wyll trye all that men haue builded vpon thée which art that foundation that all the builders which wyll buylde the Temple of GOD must needes builde vppon because there is none other foundation to builde vppon 1. Cor. 3. O swéete Iesus thou haste commaunded mee to searche the Scriptures Iob. 5. And thy holy Euangelist saynt Luke reporteth that in Berroaea such as receiued the doctrine of the Gospell gladly dyd searche the Scriptures daily Acts. 17. But my sonne Samuell forbyddeth mée the vse of the Byble in English And hée knoweth that I vnderstande none other language Hys meaning therefore must needes bée to forbydde that which thou hath commaunded O swéete Iesus suffer mée not to be seduced by my sonne Samuels flattering and hypocriticall spéeches Hée teacheth mée to beseeche thee to bée mercifull to mée a most wretched sinner for thy name sake A better lesson then this no man can teache O swéete Lorde Iesus doo thou imprint thys lesson in my harte that I doo neuer forgette it And worke thou in my hart by thy holye spyrite that I may haue a ready good will dayly to vse it But alas he beléeueth that thy blessed Mother Mary is able to helpe such as call vppon her and therefore hée teacheth me to pray vnto her to helpe mée But thou hast taught me a lesson contrary to that When you pray you shall say O our Father which art in heauen hallowed be thy name thy kingdom come thy wyll be doone in earth as it is in heauen c. O swéete Iesus let me neuer forgette that forme of prayer Gyue mée grace I beséeche thee to vse it nyght and day to craue continuallye at the handes of thy heauenly Father which through thee is become my heauenlye Father all those thyngs that in that forme of Prayer thou haste taught mee to craue Let mee not so hearken to my Sonne Samuell as that following hys counsell I shoulde doo contrary to thy commaundements Blessed Lorde Iesus I doo knowe that thy blessed mother is a most blessed creature But thou with thy Father and the holye Ghoste art her Creator and mine and the Creator of all creatures Wée must say of her as the Prophette Esay sayde of Abraham Isaac and Iacob Abraham neuer knewe vs Israell is ignoraunt of our case but thou art our Father thou art our deliuerer Esay 63. Thinkest thou oh thou blynde Fryer Iohn that thy mother that bare thee is so blinded with affection towardes thee that shee wyll turne her backe vppon Christe Iesus to follow thee Thou teachest her to vse daily a forme of prayer which in the first words is swéeter then honnie to the taste of a faithfull Christian but in all the wordes that followe it is full of most pestilent and deadlye poyson She wyll none of it therefore She wyll pray to the heauenly Father in such sorte as Christ Iesus the sonne of God hath taught her and not to creatures as thou doost exhort her Though she coulde yet she wyll not goe to shryft to make confessyen of her sinnes to a Priest Shée knoweth who it is against whome shée hath sinned To him alone she wyll confesse all her secrete sinnes At his handes onely she wyl aske forgiuenes of her sinnes because she knoweth that he onely is able to forgiue them And when she shall sinne against men she wyll confesse those sinnes to those men agaynst whom she shall committe them Shee will doo all that shée shall bee able to doo in making satisfaction to them Shée wyll craue forgiuenes at their handes and beséeche them to pray to GOD for her that she may obtaine forgiuenes at hys handes also The blessed body and bloude of our Lorde and Sauiour Iesus Christe shée will receiue as often as shée may but not after so bloudy a manner as you imagine that you doo Shee hath learned to receiue an outwarde Sacrament into her mouth and stomache and by fayth to receyue spirituallie into her soule the thing that is signified by that outwarde Sacrament Shée knoweth that if shée dwell in Christe and haue Christ dwelling in her shée dooth at the Lordes Table receiue eate and drinke the Lordes bodye and bloude in the Sacrament exhibited to her and to the reste of the faithfull But if shée shoulde intrude herselfe into the companye of Christians not dwelling in Christ neyther hauing Christe dwelling in her she knoweth that though she shoulde receiue the Sacramentall breade and drinke the Sacramentall wyne neuer so often yet shée shoulde neither eate the bodye nor drinke the bloude of Christe but the Sacrament of so excellent a thing to her owne condemnation August in sermone de Sacramentis fidelium Feria 2. Paschae Thys is the iudgment of saynt Augustine in hys Sermon that he made of the Sacraments of the faythfull the seconde day of Easter And Fryer Iohn I must aduise you to call to remembraunce that dealing of yours when you presumed to bée partaker of the Sacrament of the body and bloude of Christe in company wyth your mother the morrowe after you hadde béene at shryfte and were as your selfe haue in these your Letters confessed reconciled to the Romish Catholicke Church If Christe did then dwell in you vndoubtedly bothe Christ and Antichrist may dwell together which is knowne to bée a thing impossible You were reconciled to Antichrist therefore hée dwelt in you and not Christ You presumed with Iudas to eate the Lordes breade against y e Lord as Iudas did when he had before bounde himselfe by promise for money to deliuer the Lorde into the handes of the high Priestes and Elders of the people Euen so had you compacted with your new fréendes and made promise to forsake the Protestants Religion as you terme it and to embrace the Romish Catholicke Religion during the whole time of your transitory life And howe durst you then thrust your selfe into our Communion the next day after you hadde made thys promise to your ghostly father that had béene the meane and instrument of your reconciliation and so dissemble both wyth your newe and your olde fréendes as a Newter or Iacke on both sides But it may be that your ghostly Father had some large Commission from the holy father of Rome to disspence in such cases For such doo account our Sacrament to bée but a péece of breade and a cuppe of wyne and that therefore there is no danger in the receiuing of it in such manner as you did then receiue it But that dispensation can not helpe you for it was Panis Domini the Lords breade as well to you as that other was to Iudas And you receiued it Contra Dominum against the Lord as Iudas did euen to your owne condemnation because you made no difference of the Lordes body To your mother and to other the faithfull that dyd at that time receiue that Sacrament it was Panis Dominus The breade which is the Lorde
thus The Fryar Consider this looke to your soules health remember the saying of our blessed Lord and Sauiour Whosoeuer loueth Father or mother Brother or sister sonne or daughter landes or goods yea or his owne soule more then me he is not worthy to be my disciple Thinke not therefore that it is so much to burne your bookes seeing God will not haue vs to loue our owne soules more then him Crovvley We ha●e considered that which you haue wylled vs to consider as in the words that goe immediatly before you may sée Such care for our soules health as becommeth Christians wée haue had haue stil and we doo not doubt but we shall haue so long as we shall liue in thys transitory estate The saying of our blessed Lorde and Sauiour we forget not We loue not Father mother sonne daughter landes goods no nor our owne soules more then we loue him Yea we loue none of these otherwise then in him and for his cause And yet doo we not thinke our selues worthy to be his Schollers But hys holy spirite which he hath gyuen vs doth inwardly in our harts assure vs y t in mercy hee hath accepted of vs made vs not onely his Schollers but also his sons and daughters by adoption inheritours of his owne kingdom and heyres annexed with hys onely begotten sonne Christ Iesus And therefore we doo not in our dangers flée from him as you Papists doo séeking helpe in creatures but we flée to him as obedient children to a louing Father and we cry Abbapater Father Father But let vs sée what followeth in your exhortation The Fryar Beleeue me I pray you I am your sonne Beleeue not them that flatter you before your face and behind your back laugh you to scorne If your hart be turned as I beseeche God it may be if you can not finde a Priest to heare your confessyon to reconcile you and make you a member of the holy Church at the least wise burne your bookes hereticall vse not the Englysh Bible goe no more to the Protestants Sermons buy a payre of Beades and pray to our blessed Ladye to helpe you and wysh in your hart that you had a Priest to confesse you and wish so as often as you can but specially when you fall sicke or that you are like to die Purpose stedfastly if you coulde conueniently to confesse your sinnes and to goe to shryft c. Crovvley When you woulde perswade your Mother to burne her Bookes you put her in minde of thys saying of our Sauiour Christe Whosoeuer loueth father or mother c. But nowe when you laboure to drawe her from Christ to Antichrist she must beléeue you for you are her sonne A pretie point of Rhethorike and very rhethoricallie applyed If your behauiour had béene such towards your mother that she might haue had thereby some cause to thinke that you beare a childlike affection towardes her or if you had in these your Letters sought by humble and dutifull spéeches to winne agayne that fauour which by vnduetifull behauiour you haue lost then it might haue stande with some reason that you require her to giue credite to you her naturall son rather then to any other such as you speake of But sith you neyther haue nor can purge your selfe of that déepe dissimulation that you vsed at and before you slipped away from her neither of that vndutifull behauiour that hath béene in you towardes her in all the time of your absence and is still I can not shinke that you were well aduised when you woulde vse that way to perswade For what mother can beléeue any word that is spoken or written by that sonne that would hipocritically accompany her to the Sermons at Easter and with his penne take notes of them and yet on the Saterdaie following woulde goe secretely to a Romishe ghostlie Father and be by him reconciled to the Romish Catholick Church promising to be an enemie yea a mortall enemie all the rest of his life daies to the doctrine which he had so latelie hearde and in outward shewe séemed to haue allowed of yea and what credite can you hope to haue at her handes in whose company you receiued I feare me to your owne condemnation the holy Supper of the Lord the next day after you had béene reconciled to that Antichristian Church of Rome And how can you hope that your mother will beléeue you that making haste to be gone from her on the Munday in the after noone pretended to goe to heare that Hebrewe Lecture that the mischieuous Hereticke Ba●ber as it pleaseth you to terme him did reade vnto you And doo you think that you lying so nigh London the two first nights after your departing from your mother and three wéekes after that within one mile of London and hearing what searche was made for you by your carefull parents and other fréendes would not shewe your selfe to that sorowfull mother but suffer her to continue still in that remediles care not onelie during the space of thrée monthes which was the time that you continued in Englande before you could passe ouer the Seas but also euen to the ende almost of thrée yéeres continuing in Fraunce would neuer make your place and case knowne to your mother or anie of your fré●ndes in England can haue anie such credite with this mother of yours as in these wordes of yours you séeme to make account of If your Mother will hearken to you she may giue no credite to thē that flatter her to her face but laugh her to scorne behinde her back And I pray you can there be any that hath or coulde deale so with her more then you haue doone Can any man thinke that you did not laugh in your sléeue when you heard that your father and mother made such enquirie and search after you and yet coulde not méete wyth you and could anie flatter your mother to her face more then you did all y t Easter time before you departed There is no cause there fore why she should either giue lesse credite to any then to you or distrust any more then you If her hart be turned from Christe to Antichrist as you doo craue of God it may be then she must séeke for a priest to heare her confession reco●cile her and make her a member of y e holy Church but though she can find no such priest yet she must if she wil folow your aduice burn her hereticall bookes vse the English Bible no more and refrain going to y e Protestants Sermons To pleasure your mother in this case you might haue doone very well to haue written to her where and howe she might ●inde one of these reconciling priests and by what token she might know a right reconciling prieste frō a cosening knaue least hoping to be made a member of y e holy Church she might be admitted into the society and felowship of cosoning mates that haue no authority from
Dauid saying Miserere mei Deus secundum magnam misericordiam tuam And all the while that he sayeth the Psalme the other whippeth himselfe In the meane season whilst that one doth say the foresaid psalme I haue giuen my selfe for deuotion sake because that Christ was whipped for me foure hundred stripes Euery Friday from our Ladies day in Lent to May day I whip my selfe for your sake And I pray for you vnto the intēt that it may please God to turn your harts saue your souls Crowley Procéeding in the declaration of the straightnes of your life you say that you lie in your clothes in bed without shéetes and yet you kéepe your selues cleane It may be so for you haue leasure enough to knacke your créepers when they begin to molest you and Sta●●sacre is a soueraine thing to destroy that cattell that is accustomed to bréede in the beddes and bosomes of such lasye Lubbers as doo accustome themselues to lye in their clothes If it bée a point of holines to lye in bedde without shéetes then are the common sort of people in diuers parts in England as holy as you for they neuer lie in any yet they putt of their clothes when they goe to bedde And I my selfe hauing béene in some of those parts of the Realme haue taken such lodging as the Country vseth but I haue not lyen in my clothes as you say that you doo I doo know by that little experience that I haue had therein that after a man is acustomed for some space to lie in blankets he will chose rather to continue that kind of lodging then to change it But let this matter passe for a Louse bredde in blankets is not more holye then that Louse that is bredd in shéetes And this Epitheten lousie hath bene thought méete for a Fryer euer since I could remember You say that you got to bedde at eight of the clocke c. I know diuers Artificers in London and I think such may be found in Paris also that labouring sore all the day long doo not sléepe before eleuen of the clocke and yet ryse againe at foure or fyue at the furdest so y t they sléepe not aboue 6 howres in one night where as by your own confession you doo commonlie sléepe 7 houres and doo no labour at all but loyter all the day long The Religion therefore of those labouring Artificers is in that point straighter then yours When you doo or when anie of you dooth a misse hee that hath offended must doo penaunce If this be true thē must you all doo penaunce euerie day For as the Psalmist saith 19. Delicta quis intelligit Who can be able to tell how oft he offendeth And Salomon saith Prouerb 24. Septies cadet iustus And as your sort doo reade his words Septies in die cadet iustus The righteous person shall fall seauen times in a day But I am sure your meaning is not of such offences as Salomon speaketh of That is of déedes that are doone words that are spoken and thoughts that are conceiued contrary to Gods commaundements but your meaning is of offences cōmitted against the Rules of your Religion As when you lust or long after anie kind of fleshe when you be slacke in arysing to sing your Mattins before your blessed Sacrament of the Altar when being drowsye you singe not lustilie when you passe by anie of your Idoles and doo not dowke lowe enough to them when you lowte not lowe enough to your Prior and other your auncients in Religion when you thinke not so reuerently of euery point of your Religion as you haue béene taught to doo when you behaue not your selfe so deuoutlie in singing your Mattins and high masses as you should doo when you speake to anie of your fellowe Fryers either at dinner or at supper or in the night and when you thinke well of or wishe well to anie of those Heretickes that haue had the bringing vpp of you and haue béene too carefull for you I coniecture that these bee the misdéedes that you must doo penaunce for As for the breaking of Gods commaundements that is no offence amongst Minime Fryers Well you say that your penaunces are to fast breade and water c. By this I coniecture that your common drinke is wine Manie honest men that laboure sore haue water for their common drink I haue heard of an Abbot in England that inioined his horse such penaunce because he felt him too lustie sturring vnder hym Syrra said the Abbot to his horsekéeper sée that you giue not thys horse any thing for the space of these tenne dayes but onely breade and water Was not this great pennance for the poore horse to endure thinke you The quality and quantity of your bread may bee such that it shall rather be a pleasure then a punishment to bee put to that pennaunce But graunt that your breade which you eate when you be put to penanuce be such as King Achab commaunded to be giuen to Michaeas the Prophet 3. Reg. 22. The bread of tribulation and the water of sorrow Yet what a satisfaction is this for so haynous an offence as the transgression of the leaste of Gods commandements Adam was inioyned much greater penaunce thē this and much longer time then for the space of one day For it was sayd to him by God himself In the sweat of thy face thou shalt eate thy breade all the daies of thy life till thou shalt be turned againe into the earth c. And yet all this penaunce could not satisfy for that one sinne that he committed when he tasted of the forbidfruite Yea although all his posterity euen vnto this day had doone and we our posteritie should doo such penaunce as you speake of continually euen to the end of the world yet all this long penaunce could not reuerse this sentence pronounced by God himselfe Morte morier●s Thou shalt die the death Onely the death of him in whom there neuer was any sinne is sufficient to satisfy for all sinne Your dyning vpon the earth with bread and water the kyssing of your brethren the Friers féete the whipping of your selues for the space of halfe a quarter of an howre more or lesse at the discretion of the chéefe father may be some outward signe of inward sorrow conceiued for some offence committed and some argument of detestation thereof inwardly in the heart But an Hipocrite may doo as much as all this and yet delight in his wickednes still Reade the 58. Chapter of Esaies prophesies Nunquid tale est ●eiunium quod elegi per diem affligere hominem animam suam c. Is this the fast that I haue chosen saith the Lord by the Prophet for a man to afflicte his owne soule for the space of a day to bowe downe the heade like a Bulrush to lye in sackcloth wylt thou call this a fast and a day acceptable to the lorde c. But when
the chéefe father himselfe shall offende who shall moderate his whippings I hope you wyl resolue me in that doubt at your next comming into England c. You dare not speake one to another in the night c. Your whips are made of whipcorde c. Your silence is not to be misliked if it be voide of superstition That your whyps are made some of one matter and some of another is not much materiall But the lacke of such a hand to vse the whips as our Bedles in Bridewell haue is the cause that you laye on so manie hundreds at one time and féele such heauenly consolation after you haue laid so many hundred lashes vpon your owne backes If you long to be well whipped for your sinnes or in the remembrance of the bitter passion of our Sauiour make a steppe ouer the Seas into England and come to our Bridewell you shall finde a good fellowe there that will giue you foure lashes with his whypp that shall be more worth then any foure hundreth of those lashes that euer you gaue your selfe with any one of those whippes that you haue vsed Well I will descant no longer vpon your apyshe whypping Whippe your selfe still euery Fryday from our Ladye day in Lent till May day for your ●elfe if you lyst but not for vs. Christ Iesus was once whypped for vs and crucified and deade vpon the Crosse for vs and as the Prophete Esay sayth Chapter 53. Disciplina pacis nostrae cecidit super illum The correction that might purchase our peace is fallen vppon him And by his woundes and stripes we are made whole Wee néede no such mediators as the Minime Fryers are And except you doo in your prayers begge a better thinge for vs then turning of our hearts from the loue and beléefe of the Gospell of Christ to the loue and beléefe of Antichristian popery I pray you make your prayers for those fréends that you haue on that side the seas for you haue sayd before y t amongst vs you haue not one fréende The Fryer This is say you the life that I leade and that I am likely to leade in fasting and praying in penaunce and payne and great trauell This life I haue chosen to serue God in no man lyuing compelling me of my owne free wyll I tooke it vppon me Many there were that did what they could to hinder me vsing manie meanes to put it out of my head yet haue I gone forward Peraduenture you will aske me the cause why I haue taken vpon mee this life I aunswere you for my sinnes and for yours VVhy was our blessed Sauiour borne in a stable of horses without pompe vanitie VVhy was he circumcised his bloode drawn why did he trauell from place to place from Cittie to Cittie from Village to Village preaching praying fasting healing the sicke working miracles VVhy did he sweate his precious bloode when hee prayed in the Mountaine of Olyues VVhy was hee betrayed by the traytor Iudas bound with chaynes mocked and scorned spyt vppon and whypped stroken vppon the face crowned wyth thornes hanged vpon the Crosse by those merciles Iewes what was the cause why holy Saint Iohn Baptist eate nothing but locustes and wyld honny being apparaled in hayre All these paynes both of our Sauiour Christ and of his forerunner were they not for our sinnes Coulde not our blessed Sauiour with his word redeeme our soules that were damned to hell fyre by the disobedience of our first father Adam as well as he created them by hys worde Our sinnes then were the cause of the passion of our Sauiour for if we had not sinned he had neuer died Consider thys I pray you if another suffer for my sinnes shall not I my selfe suffer Crovvley The life that you leade and are likely to leade is hypocriticall damnable and deuillish Hypocriticall because it consisteth all together in outward shewes of holines whereas when it is layd open there is none other thing to be founde in it then such as is to be founde in the graues of dead men as our Sauiour sawe to be in y e liues of the Phariseis Math. 23. Damnable it is For that it is Antichristian And deuillish for that it sauoureth nothing of that heauenlie wisedome that is from aboue comming down from the father of lights but it is earthlie and beastly and diabolicall as blessed Iames hath writtē Epistle Chap. 3. This life you haue chosen fréelie and of your owne accorde and could by no meanes be stayed from it that therein you might serue not God but Gods sworne enemie the Antichrist of Rome You imagine that wee wyll aske you wherefore you haue made this choise you answere for your owne sinnes and ours Oh thou child of the deuill full of all guyle and disceite darest thou shoulder Christ and thrust thy selfe into the office of mediation which belongeth onelie to Christe canst thou wretched Frier satisfie to God bothe for thine owne sinnes and for ours This blasphemie of thine hath enforced mee to vse thée in spéeches as S. Paule vsed the Sorcerer Elymas at Paphus Acts. 13. But to make your matter good You aske why Christe our Sauior would be borne circumcised c. As though all those actions of his had béene but examples for vs to follow Some of these actions of his were in some sort examples for vs to followe but if we shall take vpon vs as you doo to folow them all or any of them with purpose to redéeme thereby either our owne sinnes or y e sins of other either in the whole or in parte we shal bee but Apyshe as you be and blasphemous in that wee take vppon vs that which belongeth to that one onelie mediatour betwixte God and man euen the man Iesus Christ Take héede least that fall vpon thée Fryer Iohn Francis which fell vpon Elymas reade Acts. 13. And yet furder to adde more authoritie to your owne dooing You aske of vs why holy S. Iohn Baptist did eate nothing but Locustes and wyld honnye c. And your conclusion is that all this was for our sinnes euen as the sufferings of our Sauiour Christ were Thus you make many mediatours where God hath made but one 1. Tim. 2. But héere you vse a strange point of Logicke concluding very strangely vpon an As strange an Assertion Could not our blessed Sauiour say you as well by his word redéeme our damned soules as he did by his worde create them Which manner of spéech dooth import as much as if you should say no man can or dare open his mouth to deny it for it is a truth confessed of all men But what doo you inferre vppon this Therefore our sinnes were the cause of the passion of our Sauiour If you should make this argument in the Schooles in Lutecia the Sorbonis●s would hysse you out of their Schooles The Diuines also would tell you that the premisses are not yet graunted although your graund Pryor and
the Church of Christ but not as Sacraments because it appeareth not in any Canonicall scripture that Christ our sauiour hath instituted them and commaunded them to be vsed as sacraments Neyther doo they agree with that definition or description of a sacrament which is commonly allowed of amongst the learned and is thus A Sacrament is an outwarde and visible signe representing an inwarde inuisible spirituall grace ordeyned by Chryste himselfe to testify Gods good wyll and bountifulnes towards vs through the same Christ our sauiour by which Gods promises touching forgiuenes of sinnes eternall saluation giuen through Christ are as it were sealed and the trueth of them is more certainly confirmed in our hartes To thys definition or description onely Baptisme and the Lords supper doo agrée therefore they onely are properly to be called sacraments Otherwyse a signe of a holy thing may be called a sacrament But in that large signification of the worde sacrament there be not onely seauen sacraments but seauenty times seauen sacraments And in that meaning we deny not but that there may be in euery one of these other fiue which you call sacraments moe sacraments then one or two But I can not meruell enough at this one thinge that men of your sorte can estéeme so highly of Matrimonie as to make it a sacrament of such excellencie and yet bynde all your holiest Catholickes by a solemne vowe neuer to vse it or to take any benefite by it Yea I meruell that you can account matrimony so holy a thing as a sacrament and yet maryed persons so vnholy that if any of them shall come into any of your most holy Cloysters the walles and floores thereof must be washed as thinges polluted by the presence of those marryed persons Howesoeuer therefore by whom soeuer or wheresoeuer that which wee holde concerning two sacraments onely hath béene condemned for heresie we doo styll holde it and minde styll to holde it for right Religion tyll Fryer Iohn and hys fraternitie can and shall by the Cannonicall scriptures prooue it heresye and saynt Augustine an Hereticke Nowe you enter into your exhortatorie Oration which you make to your Father and Mother especially But it may bee thought that your meaning is that thys exhortation shoulde bee made generall For your Father and Mother must haue help in the reading and waying of those matters that are cōterned in thys exhortation I wyll therefore doo you thys pleasure if I can for olde acquaintance You shall haue this excellent Oration of yours published in print with all the rest that you haue in these your Letters written to your father and mother that all your fréendes on thys side the Seas if any such be all your vndoubted fréends of the English Nation as well in Fraunce as in Italie or els where in any part of the knowne worlde may know the depth of that diuinitie that dropped out of your penne when you wrote those Letters in Nigeon But I will be so bolde with you mine olde Scholler as to publish thys mine aunswere together with these your Letters with this admonition Reade all or reade nothing Hoping that you and your complices wyll doo as much vpon my admonition as I haue doone vpon yours which is thus Reade it thorowe or begin it not Thys admonition you haue set downe in the margin of your Letters seauentéene times Perswading your selfe by all likelihoode that we dare not reade any thing written by a Papist more then many of your sorte dare reade any thing that is written by a Protestant But you must vnderstande that we are not vnder such vowes as you are Wée are encouraged by the Apostle Paule to trie all thinges and commaunded by him to holde fast that which is good Omnia probate quod bonum est tenete Try all thinges holdfast that which is good 1. Thes 5. Yea we are of that sorte that our Sauiour Christ spake of Marci vltimo In the last Chapter of saint Markes Gospell Si mortiferum quid biberint non eis nocebit If they shall drinke any deadly poyson it shall not hurt them Wee haue receiued before hande a Treacle which is of such vertue that none of your popysh poysons can hurt vs. We doo therefore and by Gods helpe wee wyll reade all your bookes if we may haue them Yea we wyll so reade them and answere them that you shall haue cause to wish that you had neuer written them Wee doo not vse to condemne mens wrytinges before we haue reade them wayed and considered them and founde them such as are méete to be condemned If you had doone so you woulde neuer haue condemned for hereticks so many as in these your Letters you haue condemned by name and yet it may be thought that you neuer reade any one lyne written by some of them I hope you will doo as much for mee as I haue doone for you that is reade these my wrytings way and consider them and confute them if you can and let that which you shall doo be made publique to the worlde But to returne to our purpose your Oration beginneth thus The Fryer Looke to your selues I pray you beleeue our holy mother the Catholicke Church Rowle your selues vp down in her blessed lappe Leaue your Sermons heretical goe no more vnto them Ryse not so earlie in the morning as you were wont to doo to damne your selfe body and soule Goe no more I say to those Sermons of Crowley Barber Fielde and the rest Burne your bookes of Sermons with all other your bokes in which are heresies Be not ashamed of the name of a Papist Goe to cōfession confesse your sinnes to a Priest Leaue this worlde that is so disceitfull and stick vnto God c. Crovvley Héere is an heape of Patheticall spéeches powred out as it were of a Vessell full of feruent zeale towardes your poore parents and all others that be in such miserable case as you séeme to suppose that they are in You wyshe them to looke to them selues as though you sawe them in present perrill and danger of destruction There be seauen thinges that you require them to doo whereby they may escape that great daunger which hangeth ouer their heads The first is to beléeue your holie mother the Catholick Church and to rowle themselues vp and downe in her blessed lapp If that Catholick Church that beléeueth confesseth professeth that fayth and Religion that Christ Iesus taught in his owne person commaunded to be taught Catholicklie throughout the whole world by his Apostles and messengers be that holie mother of yours that you speake of then will your Father and Mother and all other that you wyshe shoulde be moued by your spéeches gladly doo that which you wishe them to doo Yea they doo it alreadie haue doone it euer since God gaue them knowledge of that mother And they doo still begge of God that they may continue rowling vppe and downe in her blessed lap all the