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A15422 Synopsis papismi, that is, A generall viewe of papistry wherein the whole mysterie of iniquitie, and summe of antichristian doctrine is set downe, which is maintained this day by the Synagogue of Rome, against the Church of Christ, together with an antithesis of the true Christian faith, and an antidotum or counterpoyson out of the Scriptures, against the whore of Babylons filthy cuppe of abominations: deuided into three bookes or centuries, that is, so many hundreds of popish heresies and errors. Collected by Andrew Willet Bachelor of Diuinity. Willet, Andrew, 1562-1621. 1592 (1592) STC 25696; ESTC S119956 618,512 654

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saepe_fw-la &_o tam_fw-la diu_fw-la clamatur_fw-la ut_fw-la fiat_fw-la in_o psal._n 63._o what_o medicine_n or_o plaster_n will_v thou_o buy_v to_o heal_v thy_o sin_n behold_v even_o now_o while_o i_o preach_v unto_o thou_o change_v thy_o heart_n and_o it_o be_v already_o do_v which_o we_o so_o often_o call_v upon_o you_o to_o be_v do_v see_v then_o by_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n our_o heart_n be_v change_v our_o life_n amend_v and_o our_o sin_n remit_v the_o second_o part_n to_o who_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o key_n be_v commit_v the_o papist_n error_n 74_o the_o authority_n and_o power_n of_o excommunication_n say_v they_o be_v not_o in_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o only_o in_o the_o prelate_n neither_o be_v the_o power_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v give_v unto_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o in_o their_o own_o name_n not_o in_o the_o name_n or_o right_v of_o the_o church_n do_v the_o pastor_n and_o prelate_n exercise_v this_o power_n remist_n 2._o 1._o corinth_n 5._o sect_n 3._o bellarm._n lib._n 1._o de_fw-la clericis_fw-la cap._n 7._o the_o church_n be_v say_v to_o bind_v and_o loose_v because_o the_o prelate_n do_v bind_v &_o loose_v as_o a_o man_n be_v say_v to_o speak_v and_o see_v though_o he_o only_o speak_v with_o the_o tongue_n and_o see_v with_o the_o eye_n 1_o they_o seem_v to_o prove_v it_o by_o s._n paul_n example_n 1._o corinth_n 5._o i_o absent_a in_o body_n but_o present_a in_o spirit_n have_v decree_v s._n paul_n use_v here_o his_o apostolic_a power_n in_o send_v his_o letter_n and_o mandatum_fw-la to_o have_v the_o incestuous_a person_n excommunicate_v ergo_fw-la the_o right_n be_v in_o he_o and_o not_o in_o the_o church_n and_o so_o consequent_o in_o the_o bishop_n his_o successor_n ans._n first_o s._n paul_n send_v no_o mandatum_fw-la but_o show_v his_o apostolic_a power_n in_o decree_a the_o incestuous_a person_n worthy_a of_o excommunication_n and_o require_v the_o same_o to_o be_v execute_v by_o the_o church_n fulk_n 1._o corin._n 5._o sec._n 2._o second_o though_o paul_n give_v the_o sentence_n yet_o be_v it_o do_v both_o in_o the_o power_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o name_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n for_o he_o have_v decree_v only_o that_o he_o shall_v be_v excommunicate_a it_o be_v not_o actual_o do_v but_o to_o the_o due_a perform_v thereof_o there_o be_v require_v the_o congregate_a of_o the_o church_n in_o christ_n name_n the_o presence_n of_o paul_n in_o spirit_n by_o his_o apostolic_a power_n &_o that_o it_o shall_v be_v do_v in_o the_o name_n of_o christ._n al_n this_o show_v that_o paul_n give_v sentence_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n 2_o paul_n they_o say_v by_o the_o preeminent_a power_n of_o his_o ministry_n pardon_v the_o incestuous_a person_n who_o he_o have_v excommunicate_a rhemist_n argument_n in_o 1._o ad_fw-la corinth_n ans._n the_o text_n be_v plain_a that_o he_o consent_v the_o church_n shall_v pardon_v he_o 2._o corinth_n 2.10_o to_o who_o you_o forgive_v any_o thing_n i_o forgive_v also_o here_o not_o paul_n only_o but_o the_o whole_a church_n pardon_v fulk_n ibid._n 3_o the_o jesuite_n simile_n may_v be_v return_v upon_o his_o own_o head_n for_o as_o the_o eye_n and_o tongue_n in_o the_o body_n be_v but_o instrument_n of_o the_o life_n and_o power_n of_o the_o soul_n which_o quicken_v the_o whole_a body_n so_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n do_v execute_v the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n by_o the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v give_v to_o the_o whole_a body_n the_o protestant_n the_o authority_n of_o excommunication_n pertain_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n although_o the_o execution_n and_o judgement_n thereof_o to_o avoid_v confusion_n be_v commit_v to_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n which_o exercise_n that_o authority_n as_o in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n so_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n fulk_n totidem_fw-la verbis_fw-la annot_fw-mi 1._o cor._n 5._o sect_n 3._o 1_o math._n 18.17_o if_o he_o will_v not_o hear_v thou_o tell_v the_o church_n this_o place_n prove_v that_o although_o the_o exercise_v of_o the_o key_n be_v refer_v to_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o the_o authority_n and_o right_n be_v in_o the_o whole_a church_n for_o the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n the_o pastor_n and_o governor_n though_o they_o be_v excellent_a and_o principal_a member_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o be_v they_o improper_o call_v the_o church_n argument_n illyrici_fw-la 2_o we_o conclude_v the_o same_o also_o out_o of_o s._n paul_n word_n 1._o cor._n 2.21_o all_o thing_n be_v you_o whether_o paul_n apollo_n or_o cephas_n whether_o thing_n present_a or_o thing_n to_o come_v and_o you_o be_v christ_n and_o christ_n god_n ergo_fw-la whatsoever_o power_n be_v in_o the_o church_n it_o be_v the_o church_n not_o only_o the_o common_a use_n and_o the_o benefit_n thereof_o because_o it_o may_v be_v answer_v that_o although_o the_o key_n be_v only_o grant_v to_o the_o prelate_n yet_o they_o use_v they_o to_o the_o good_a of_o the_o church_n but_o the_o right_a also_o and_o possession_n thereof_o even_o as_o the_o church_n be_v the_o inheritance_n and_o proper_a possession_n of_o christ._n 3_o augustine_n consent_v ecclesia_fw-la quae_fw-la fundatur_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la clave_n ab_fw-la eo_fw-la regni_fw-la coelorum_fw-la accepit_fw-la in_o petro._n tract_n in_o johann_n 124._o the_o church_n which_o be_v found_v upon_o christ_n receive_v in_o peter_n the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n but_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o not_o only_o the_o pastor_n be_v found_v and_o build_v upon_o christ_n ergo._n the_o three_o part_n whether_o the_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n have_v any_o absolute_a power_n to_o remit_v sin_n otherwise_o then_o as_o minister_n only_o the_o papist_n error_n 75_o they_o spare_v not_o to_o say_v that_o priest_n have_v full_a right_a to_o remit_v sin_n and_o be_v not_o minister_n only_o thereof_o and_o dispenser_n but_o have_v full_a power_n as_o christ_n have_v and_o he_o that_o doubt_v of_o their_o right_n herein_o may_v as_o well_o doubt_v whether_o christ_n have_v authority_n as_o man_n to_o remit_v sin_n rhemist_n annot_v john_n 20._o sect_n 3._o and_o again_o they_o call_v it_o a_o express_a power_n and_o commission_n yea_o a_o wonderful_a power_n which_o be_v give_v unto_o priest_n to_o remit_v sin_n and_o therefore_o it_o follow_v necessary_o that_o man_n shall_v submit_v themselves_o to_o their_o judgement_n for_o release_v of_o their_o sin_n annot._n john_n 20._o sect_n 5._o 1_o they_o reason_n thus_o out_o of_o our_o saviour_n own_o word_n john_n 20.21_o as_o my_o father_n have_v send_v i_o so_o i_o send_v you_o he_o show_v his_o father_n commission_n give_v to_o himself_o and_o then_o in_o plain_a term_n most_o ample_o impart_v the_o same_o to_o his_o apostle_n but_o christ_n have_v full_a right_n to_o remit_v sin_n ergo_fw-la also_o the_o apostle_n and_o their_o successor_n for_o they_o have_v the_o same_o power_n that_o christ_n have_v rhemist_n annot_v john_n 20._o sect_n 3._o ans._n first_o it_o be_v great_a presumption_n and_o speak_v without_o any_o ground_n to_o say_v that_o christ_n by_o send_v his_o apostle_n into_o the_o world_n give_v they_o as_o full_a large_a and_o ample_a commission_n as_o he_o himself_o have_v for_o neither_o the_o pope_n in_o who_o remain_v as_o they_o say_v the_o apostolic_a authority_n by_o their_o own_o confession_n can_v do_v all_o that_o christ_n do_v as_o to_o ordain_v and_o institute_v sacrament_n and_o christ_n say_v they_o may_v forgive_v sin_n without_o the_o sacrament_n which_o the_o pope_n can_v do_v and_o so_o consequent_o neither_o the_o apostle_n who_o full_a jurisdiction_n he_o have_v in_o this_o behalf_n bellarm._n the_o pontiff_a lib._n 5._o cap._n 4._o second_o the_o power_n therefore_o here_o grant_v to_o the_o apostle_n be_v in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n to_o declare_v and_o pronounce_v remission_n of_o sin_n according_a to_o the_o will_n of_o god_n not_o proper_o in_o their_o own_o power_n to_o release_v or_o absolve_v sinner_n 2_o he_o breathe_v upon_o they_o and_o give_v they_o the_o holy_a ghost_n vers_n 22._o therefore_o he_o that_o deni_v the_o priest_n authority_n to_o forgive_v sin_n he_o must_v deny_v the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o be_v god_n and_o not_o to_o have_v power_n to_o remit_v sin_n rhem._n ibid._n sect_n 4._o ans._n what_o a_o blasphemous_a consequence_n be_v this_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v absolute_a power_n to_o forgive_v sin_n ergo_fw-la the_o apostle_n also_o and_o all_o other_o priest_n have_v the_o same_o power_n first_o by_o this_o mean_v they_o make_v no_o difference_n between_o the_o fullness_n of_o power_n in_o our_o saviour_n christ_n and_o the_o communication_n of_o that_o power_n to_o other_o minister_n of_o christ_n it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o
fidei_fw-la testimonium_fw-la epilog_fw-la this_o christian_a duty_n bestow_v in_o bury_v the_o dead_a body_n which_o shall_v notwithstanding_o rise_v again_o be_v a_o lively_a testimony_n in_o we_o of_o the_o same_o faith_n that_o be_v we_o do_v careful_o commit_v the_o body_n of_o christian_n to_o the_o ground_n know_v that_o they_o be_v not_o lose_v but_o shall_v rise_v again_o but_o as_o for_o the_o dead_a themselves_o they_o receive_v no_o benefit_n at_o all_o curatio_fw-la funeris_fw-la pompa_fw-la exequiarum_fw-la vivorum_fw-la sunt_fw-la solatia_fw-la magis_fw-la quàm_fw-la subsidia_fw-la mortuorum_fw-la this_o great_a provision_n for_o funeral_n this_o great_a pomp_n of_o burial_n 2._o they_o be_v comfort_n for_o the_o live_n not_o help_n to_o the_o dead_a impleant_fw-la ergo_fw-la homines_fw-la ista_fw-la erga_fw-la suos_fw-la postremi_fw-la muneris_fw-la officia_fw-la &_o svi_fw-la levamenta_fw-la moeroris_fw-la let_v man_n therefore_o perform_v this_o last_o duty_n to_o their_o friend_n which_o be_v also_o a_o great_a lightning_n of_o their_o grief_n ergo_fw-la funeral_n profit_v not_o the_o dead_a but_o comfort_v the_o live_n yea_o it_o be_v call_v the_o last_o duty_n which_o be_v perform_v at_o burial_n if_o it_o be_v the_o last_o then_o there_o be_v no_o duty_n afterward_o to_o be_v do_v therefore_o prayer_n also_o be_v superfluous_a for_o if_o it_o be_v needful_a to_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a than_o the_o last_o duty_n shall_v not_o be_v in_o the_o burial_n another_o come_n afterward_o and_o thus_o much_o also_o concern_v the_o manner_n and_o order_n of_o funeral_n the_o second_o part_n of_o this_o controversy_n of_o the_o saint_n depart_v that_o be_v in_o joy_n and_o bliss_n this_o controversy_n stand_v of_o these_o several_a question_n 1._o of_o the_o bless_a estate_n of_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n and_o of_o the_o canonise_a of_o they_o upon_o earth_n 2._o of_o the_o adoration_n of_o saint_n first_o whether_o they_o be_v to_o be_v adore_v or_o not_o and_o whether_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o swear_v by_o they_o second_o of_o the_o diverse_a kind_n of_o worship_n three_o of_o the_o worship_n of_o saint_n upon_o earth_n 3._o of_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n whether_o they_o pray_v for_o we_o and_o understand_v our_o prayer_n 4._o of_o the_o adoration_n translation_n keep_v of_o relic_n and_o of_o the_o miracle_n wrought_v by_o they_o 5._o of_o image_n and_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n &_o other_o matter_n thereto_o belong_v more_o particular_o handle_v 6_o of_o church_n the_o form_n use_v ornament_n dedication_n of_o they_o and_o such_o like_a 7_o of_o pilgrimage_n and_o procession_n 8_o of_o holy_a and_o festival_n day_n the_o lord_n day_n saint_n day_n and_o of_o lent_n 9_o of_o the_o virgin_n mary_n her_o conception_n vow_n assumption_n worship_n merit_n of_o these_o now_o in_o order_n the_o first_o question_n concern_v the_o bless_a and_o happy_a estate_n of_o the_o saint_n depart_v this_o question_n have_v two_o part_n first_o of_o their_o blessedness_n which_o they_o have_v before_o god_n in_o heaven_n second_o of_o the_o publish_n or_o make_v know_v their_o blessedness_n before_o man_n which_o they_o call_v the_o canonise_a of_o saint_n the_o first_o part_n of_o the_o bless_a estate_n of_o the_o saint_n before_o god_n in_o heaven_n the_o papist_n bellarmine_n take_v great_a pain_n lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr sanctis_fw-la in_o six_o long_a chapter_n together_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o saint_n depart_v do_v present_o enjoy_v the_o sight_n of_o god_n and_o do_v enter_v into_o bliss_n and_o that_o their_o soul_n forthwith_o be_v receive_v into_o heaven_n and_o be_v not_o keep_v in_o any_o secret_a by-place_n till_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n but_o all_o this_o while_n he_o sight_v with_o his_o own_o shadow_n for_o we_o grant_v as_o much_o as_o he_o prove_v that_o the_o righteous_a be_v with_o christ_n so_o soon_o as_o they_o be_v loose_v from_o their_o body_n as_o christ_n say_v to_o the_o thief_n upon_o the_o cross_n this_o day_n thou_o shall_v be_v with_o i_o in_o paradise_n luk._n 23.42_o see_v also_o to_o this_o purpose_n philipp_n 1.23_o 2._o corinth_n 5.1_o heb._n 12.22_o all_o these_o place_n do_v evident_o prove_v that_o present_o after_o their_o departure_n the_o soul_n of_o the_o faithful_a do_v enjoy_v the_o presence_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o celestial_a company_n of_o the_o angel_n in_o heaven_n yet_o our_o adversary_n stay_v not_o here_o neither_o be_v content_v with_o this_o that_o the_o saint_n be_v bless_v but_o proceed_v further_o and_o give_v they_o a_o full_a possession_n of_o blessedness_n make_v no_o difference_n between_o error_n 22_o they_o and_o the_o angel_n in_o glory_n but_o affirm_v that_o they_o be_v as_o high_o exalt_v as_o the_o angel_n be_v rhemist_n annot_v luk._n 15._o sect_n 2._o and_o bellarmine_n therefore_o take_v up_o caluine_n because_o he_o say_v the_o saint_n be_v yet_o in_o hope_n and_o expectation_n of_o the_o perfect_a fruition_n of_o glory_n cap._n 1._o lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr sanctis_fw-la the_o protestant_n we_o confess_v that_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n be_v already_o 14.13_o bless_v yet_o they_o look_v for_o the_o full_a accomplishment_n and_o perfection_n of_o their_o glory_n when_o as_o their_o body_n shall_v be_v glorify_v in_o the_o resurrection_n then_o it_o be_v say_v they_o shall_v be_v like_o the_o angel_n and_o yet_o not_o in_o all_o thing_n much_o less_o be_v their_o soul_n now_o equal_a to_o the_o angel_n in_o glory_n fulk_n ibid._n annot_fw-mi luk._n 15._o sect_n 2._o argum._n 1._o the_o saint_n shall_v be_v as_o the_o angel_n but_o not_o before_o the_o resurrection_n math._n 22.30_o neither_o can_v it_o be_v prove_v out_o of_o that_o text_n that_o they_o shall_v then_o be_v equal_a to_o the_o angel_n in_o all_o thing_n for_o it_o be_v not_o all_o one_o to_o say_v they_o shall_v be_v as_o the_o angel_n because_o they_o shall_v then_o need_v no_o marriage_n as_o to_o say_v they_o shall_v be_v equal_a to_o the_o angel_n in_o all_o thing_n apocalyps_n 6.10_o the_o soul_n under_o the_o altar_n do_v cry_v lord_n how_o long_o ergo_fw-la they_o be_v in_o expectation_n of_o great_a glory_n and_o reason_n also_o give_v as_o much_o that_o the_o body_n and_o the_o soul_n be_v join_v together_o in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n shall_v make_v a_o full_a weight_n and_o measure_n of_o joy_n argum._n 2._o the_o wicked_a spirit_n and_o damn_a soul_n have_v not_o yet_o their_o full_a and_o perfect_a torment_n ergo_fw-la neither_o the_o saint_n their_o perfect_a joy_n the_o devil_n be_v now_o torment_v and_o keep_v in_o chain_n of_o darkness_n 2._o pet._n 2.4_o jud._n 6._o but_o their_o full_a damnation_n be_v reserve_v for_o the_o day_n of_o the_o lord_n math._n 25.41_o they_o be_v not_o yet_o torment_v in_o such_o measure_n as_o they_o shall_v be_v and_o themselves_o make_v account_n for_o math._n 8.29_o luk._n 8.31_o last_o if_o now_o the_o saint_n be_v equal_a to_o the_o angel_n in_o 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the_o other_o sacrament_n often_o to_o be_v receive_v 1._o corinth_n 11.25_o but_o for_o the_o iteration_n of_o baptism_n we_o have_v no_o such_o commandment_n 3._o baptism_n come_v in_o the_o place_n of_o circumcision_n as_o that_o be_v but_o once_o administer_v so_o likewise_o it_o must_v be_v in_o the_o other_o 4._o in_o baptism_n god_n make_v a_o perpetual_a covenant_n with_o we_o which_o he_o always_o remember_v &_o therefore_o need_v not_o to_o be_v put_v in_o mind_n by_o the_o often_o use_v of_o that_o sacrament_n these_o and_o the_o like_a reason_n may_v be_v allege_v why_o baptism_n be_v not_o often_o to_o be_v require_v and_o not_o that_o which_o by_o they_o without_o any_o ground_n be_v pretend_v augustine_n be_v flat_a against_o they_o for_o the_o iteration_n of_o confirmation_n manus_fw-la impositio_fw-la non_fw-la sicut_fw-la baptismus_fw-la repeti_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la quid_fw-la
liar_n 11._o augustine_n say_v of_o christ_n secundum_fw-la corporalem_fw-la praesentiam_fw-la simul_fw-la in_o sole_a luna_fw-la cruse_n esse_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la christ_n according_a to_o his_o corporal_a presence_n can_v be_v in_o the_o sun_n the_o moon_n and_o upon_o the_o cross_n all_o at_o one_o time_n and_o concern_v the_o other_o point_n he_o write_v thus_o spatia_fw-la locorum_fw-la tolle_fw-la corporibus_fw-la 57_o &_o nusquam_fw-la erunt_fw-la &_o quia_fw-la nusquam_fw-la erunt_fw-la nec_fw-la erunt_fw-la take_v away_o space_n of_o place_n from_o body_n and_o they_o shall_v be_v no_o where_o and_o if_o they_o be_v in_o no_o place_n then_o be_v they_o not_o at_o all_o argum._n 2._o the_o real_a and_o carnal_a presence_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v a_o thing_n superfluous_a needle_n and_o unprofitable_a first_o the_o favour_n of_o god_n in_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n through_o christ_n be_v as_o well_o seal_v unto_o we_o in_o baptism_n as_o in_o the_o lord_n supper_n what_o need_v then_o the_o carnal_a presence_n in_o the_o one_o more_o than_o in_o the_o other_o second_o that_o christ_n be_v in_o body_n present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v not_o perceive_v by_o any_o sense_n for_o they_o neither_o taste_v he_o see_v he_o nor_o feel_v he_o it_o must_v be_v then_o a_o work_n of_o faith_n but_o by_o faith_n christ_n be_v as_o well_o apprehend_v be_v absent_a as_o be_v suppose_v in_o this_o manner_n to_o be_v present_a ergo_fw-la this_o kind_n of_o presence_n be_v needle_n argum._n 3._o it_o be_v a_o inglorious_a unworthy_a and_o unseemly_a thing_n that_o the_o glorious_a and_o impassable_a body_n of_o christ_n shall_v be_v enclose_v in_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n devour_v and_o chaw_v eat_v and_o gnaw_v of_o mouse_n subject_a to_o mould_n and_o rottenness_n to_o be_v spill_v upon_o the_o ground_n burn_v in_o the_o fire_n for_o all_o these_o inconvenience_n must_v needs_o follow_v upon_o the_o carnal_a presence_n 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say_v to_o have_v sit_v in_o darkness_n before_o the_o light_n of_o the_o gospel_n by_o the_o preach_n of_o jesus_n christ_n do_v shine_v unto_o they_o math._n 4.16_o but_o they_o much_o more_o shall_v be_v and_o be_v keep_v in_o darkness_n that_o be_v condemn_v to_o hell_n where_o they_o feel_v nothing_o but_o the_o horror_n of_o god_n wrath_n his_o eternal_a and_o endless_a curse_n with_o unspeakable_a torment_n now_o in_o soul_n and_o afterward_o both_o in_o body_n &_o soul_n without_o all_o comfort_n or_o hope_n of_o refresh_v utter_o exclude_v from_o the_o presence_n of_o god_n wherefore_o it_o be_v not_o the_o place_n but_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n and_o absence_n of_o his_o spirit_n that_o cause_v such_o endless_a and_o unspeakable_a punishment_n argu._n 3_o as_o for_o your_o distinction_n of_o hell_n the_o brim_n whereof_o you_o say_v be_v limbus_n patrum_fw-la the_o middle_a part_n purgatory_n the_o low_a and_o nethermost_a hell_n itself_o the_o place_n of_o the_o damn_a in_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d god_n of_o himself_o second_o whether_o he_o be_v mediator_n as_o god_n or_o man_n or_o as_o both_o three_o whether_o he_o have_v by_o his_o desert_n purchase_v any_o thing_n for_o himself_o the_o first_o part_n whether_o christ_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d god_n of_o himself_o the_o papist_n error_n 103_o they_o deny_v that_o christ_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d god_n of_o himself_o and_o affirm_v that_o he_o have_v not_o only_o his_o person_n but_o his_o substance_n of_o his_o father_n whereupon_o they_o be_v bold_a to_o charge_n caluine_n with_o blasphemy_n for_o say_v that_o christ_n be_v god_n of_o himself_o as_o well_o as_o the_o father_n rhemist_n joh._n 1._o sect_n 3._o argum._n the_o word_n be_v with_o god_n to_o wit_n the_o son_n be_v with_o
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state_n of_o the_o dead_a ans._n this_o phrase_n in_o scripture_n import_v and_o impli_v also_o the_o particular_a state_n of_o those_o that_o be_v depart_v as_o 2._o sam._n 12.23_o david_n say_v of_o his_o child_n i_o shall_v go_v to_o he_o he_o shall_v not_o come_v to_o i_o and_o luk._n 23.43_o christ_n say_v this_o day_n shall_v thou_o be_v with_o i_o in_o paradise_n in_o both_o place_n it_o signify_v to_o be_v in_o rest_n and_o joy_n in_o the_o same_o place_n where_o they_o be_v with_o who_o they_o be_v say_v they_o shall_v be_v ergo_fw-la it_o must_v be_v so_o take_v here_o argum._n 4._o if_o it_o have_v be_v samuel_n vtique_fw-la vir_fw-la iustus_fw-la non_fw-la permisisset_fw-la se_fw-la adorari_fw-la the_o just_a man_n will_v not_o have_v suffer_v himself_o to_o be_v adore_v and_o worship_v as_o the_o devil_n do_v take_v it_o at_o saules_n hand_n to_o be_v worship_v of_o he_o for_o the_o text_n say_v he_o incline_v his_o face_n towards_o the_o ground_n and_o bow_v himself_o 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the_o pit_n where_o be_v no_o water_n psalm_n 66.12_o we_o go_v through_o fire_n and_o water_n these_o and_o such_o like_a place_n the_o jesuite_n understand_v of_o purgatory_n lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr purgator_n cap._n 3._o ans._n first_o the_o jesuite_n bring_v this_o place_n before_o to_o prove_v that_o there_o be_v limbus_n patrum_fw-la and_o now_o he_o make_v it_o serve_v for_o purgatory_n thus_o they_o can_v make_v the_o scripture_n to_o speak_v what_o they_o listen_v themselves_o but_o purgatory_n and_o limbus_n patrum_fw-la be_v two_o diverse_a yea_o and_o contrary_a thing_n for_o the_o limbus_n be_v only_o for_o those_o that_o live_v before_o christ_n purgatory_n begin_v since_o the_o limbus_n be_v void_a of_o pain_n and_o punishment_n so_o be_v not_o purgatory_n wherefore_o if_o the_o lake_n or_o pit_n in_o zacharie_n signify_v purgatory_n it_o make_v nothing_o for_o limbus_n and_o if_o it_o serve_v for_o limbus_n than_o they_o miss_v of_o a_o place_n for_o purgatory_n but_o 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ergo_fw-la relic_n may_v act._n 19_o vers_fw-la 12._o rhemist_n the_o protestant_n ans._n to_o the_o first_o first_o the_o virtue_n be_v not_o in_o the_o hem_n of_o christ_n garment_n but_o he_o say_v it_o proceed_v from_o himself_o luk._n 8.46_o second_o it_o be_v her_o faith_n that_o heal_v she_o for_o many_o that_o throng_v christ_n touch_v his_o garment_n but_o receive_v no_o benefit_n neither_o be_v there_o any_o virtue_n in_o his_o garment_n when_o the_o soldier_n part_v they_o among_o they_o three_o if_o it_o please_v the_o lord_n to_o use_v some_o external_a sign_n as_o of_o oil_n clay_n spittle_n in_o heal_v of_o man_n yet_o have_v we_o no_o warrant_n that_o he_o will_v do_v the_o like_a by_o touch_v of_o relic_n to_o the_o second_o first_o the_o napkins_z bring_v from_o paul_n have_v no_o such_o virtue_n in_o they_o for_o the_o text_n be_v plain_a that_o they_o be_v wrought_v by_o the_o hand_n of_o paul_n second_o not_o all_o that_o touch_v they_o be_v present_o heal_v three_o they_o be_v but_o as_o sign_n and_o token_n to_o the_o disease_a that_o the_o apostle_n when_o it_o please_v god_n may_v dispense_v miracle_n even_o when_o he_o be_v absent_a last_o if_o they_o have_v to_o this_o day_n miracle_n wrought_v by_o the_o relic_n &_o monument_n of_o saint_n i_o fear_v i_o nay_o i_o dare_v say_v they_o be_v no_o better_a than_o the_o donatist_n miracle_n be_v either_o figmenta_fw-la mendacium_fw-la hominum_fw-la vel_fw-la portenta_fw-la fallacium_fw-la spirituum_fw-la either_o the_o gloss_n and_o fable_n of_o lie_a man_n or_o the_o strange_a working_n of_o deceive_a spirit_n the_o five_o question_n concern_v image_n and_o of_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o crosse._n the_o first_o part_n concern_v image_n be_v subdivide_v into_o certain_a other_o article_n and_o point_n first_o of_o the_o difference_n of_o idol_n and_o image_n second_o whether_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o have_v image_n three_o if_o it_o
how_o all_o man_n be_v justify_v before_o god_n and_o what_o be_v the_o use_n of_o the_o sacrament_n in_o all_o man_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v no_o extraordinary_a or_o exempt_a case_n but_o the_o common_a case_n of_o all_o the_o faithful_a that_o righteousness_n say_v the_o apostle_n may_v be_v impute_v to_o they_o also_o rom._n 4._o 11._o second_o although_o isaac_n with_o many_o other_o be_v first_o circumcise_v and_o after_o justify_v yet_o this_o be_v perpetual_a they_o be_v no_o more_o justify_v by_o circumcision_n than_o abraham_n who_o be_v justify_v before_o he_o be_v circumcise_v but_o by_o faith_n only_o and_o therefore_o the_o sacrament_n be_v seal_n of_o the_o justice_n of_o faith_n whether_o the_o justice_n of_o faith_n go_v before_o or_o follow_v after_o argum._n 2._o augustine_n say_v in_o isaac_n qui_fw-la octavo_fw-la die_fw-la circumcisus_fw-la fuit_fw-la praecessit_fw-la signaculum_fw-la iustitiae_fw-la fidei_fw-la et_fw-la quoniam_fw-la patris_fw-la fidem_fw-la imitatus_fw-la est_fw-la 24._o secuta_fw-la est_fw-la in_o crescente_fw-la ipsa_fw-la iustitia_fw-la cvius_fw-la signaculum_fw-la in_o infante_fw-la praecesserat_fw-la in_o isaac_n who_o be_v circumcise_v the_o eight_o day_n the_o seal_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n go_v before_o and_o because_o he_o do_v follow_v his_o father_n faith_n as_o he_o grow_v justice_n itself_o follow_v the_o seal_n whereof_o go_v before_o in_o his_o infancy_n ergo_fw-la circumcision_n be_v a_o seal_n as_o well_o to_o isaac_n as_o to_o abraham_n and_o so_o consequent_o to_o all_o the_o second_o question_n of_o the_o efficacy_n and_o virtue_n of_o the_o sacrament_n this_o question_n also_o have_v diverse_a part_n first_o whether_o the_o sacrament_n do_v give_v or_o confer_v grace_n by_o the_o work_n wrought_v second_o of_o the_o difference_n of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n three_o whether_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o new_a law_n do_v imprint_v a_o sign_n or_o 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name_n of_o god_n to_o the_o which_o salvation_n be_v promise_v rom._n 10.13_o to_o wash_v away_o sin_n wherefore_o that_o place_n make_v nothing_o for_o your_o purpose_n second_o in_o the_o other_o place_n health_n of_o body_n be_v promise_v by_o the_o gift_n of_o miracle_n but_o remission_n of_o sin_n be_v say_v to_o be_v obtain_v by_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o elder_n the_o prayer_n of_o faith_n shall_v save_v the_o sick_a jam._n 5.15_o argum._n 2._o s._n paul_n say_v he_o have_v cleanse_v his_o church_n by_o the_o laver_n of_o water_n in_o the_o word_n ephes._n 5.26_o ergo_fw-la baptism_n be_v a_o instrumental_a cause_n of_o our_o justification_n bellarm._n ans._n 1._o it_o be_v not_o unusual_a in_o the_o scripture_n to_o call_v the_o sign_n or_o sacrament_n by_o the_o thing_n signify_v as_o exod._n 12.11_o the_o paschall_n lamb_n be_v call_v the_o passeover_n whereas_o it_o be_v but_o a_o sign_n and_o memorial_n thereof_o so_o baptism_n be_v call_v the_o laver_n of_o regeneration_n tit._n 3.5_o because_o it_o be_v a_o sure_a sign_n of_o our_o regeneration_n by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n second_o the_o apostle_n in_o this_o place_n expound_v himself_o for_o he_o say_v that_o we_o be_v wash_v by_o water_n in_o the_o word_n that_o be_v the_o outward_a element_n do_v send_v and_o refer_v we_o to_o the_o word_n and_o promise_n of_o god_n whereof_o it_o be_v a_o seal_n the_o protestant_n the_o sacrament_n have_v no_o power_n to_o give_v or_o confer_v grace_n to_o the_o receiver_n neither_o be_v they_o immediate_a instrument_n of_o our_o justification_n instrumental_a mean_n they_o be_v to_o increase_v and_o confirm_v our_o faith_n in_o the_o promise_n of_o god_n of_o themselves_o they_o have_v no_o operation_n but_o as_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n work_v by_o they_o our_o internal_a sense_n be_v move_v and_o quicken_v by_o those_o external_a object_n neither_o do_v we_o say_v that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v bare_a and_o naked_a sign_n of_o spiritual_a grace_n but_o they_o do_v very_o exhibit_v and_o represent_v christ_n to_o as_o many_o as_o by_o faith_n be_v able_a and_o meet_a to_o apprehend_v he_o so_o to_o conclude_v look_v how_o the_o word_n of_o god_n work_v be_v preach_v so_o do_v the_o sacrament_n but_o the_o word_n do_v not_o otherwise_o justify_v we_o but_o by_o work_a faith_n at_o the_o hear_n thereof_o so_o sacrament_n do_v serve_v for_o the_o increase_n of_o our_o faith_n faith_n be_v not_o a_o servant_n and_o handmaid_n to_o the_o sacrament_n as_o the_o jesuite_n declare_v by_o the_o homely_a similitude_n of_o the_o fire_n and_o dry_a wood_n but_o faith_n be_v the_o more_o principal_a and_o the_o sacrament_n have_v no_o other_o use_n or_o end_n then_o as_o they_o be_v help_n for_o the_o strengthen_n of_o our_o faith_n grace_n of_o themselves_o they_o can_v give_v or_o confer_v none_o argum._n 1._o rom._n 1.17_o the_o just_a shall_v live_v by_o faith_n ergo_fw-la he_o live_v not_o that_o be_v he_o be_v not_o justify_v by_o any_o work_n wrought_v as_o by_o the_o sacrament_n but_o only_o by_o faith_n faith_n therefore_o give_v life_n and_o efficacy_n to_o the_o sacrament_n it_o be_v not_o contain_v absolute_o in_o themselves_o again_o saint_n paul_n say_v that_o faith_n be_v impute_v to_o abraham_n for_o righteousness_n before_o he_o be_v circumcise_v rom._n 4.10_o ergo_fw-la he_o be_v not_o justify_v by_o circumcision_n no_o more_o be_v we_o by_o the_o sacrament_n but_o both_o he_o and_o we_o be_v justify_v only_o by_o faith_n argum._n 2._o saint_n peter_n say_v baptism_n save_v we_o not_o the_o put_v away_o of_o the_o filth_n of_o the_o flesh_n but_o in_o that_o a_o good_a conscience_n make_v request_n unto_o god_n by_o the_o resurrection_n of_o christ_n 1._o pet._n 3.21_o ergo_fw-la it_o be_v faith_n in_o the_o resurrection_n of_o christ_n which_o work_v in_o we_o peace_n of_o conscience_n and_o not_o the_o outward_a wash_n that_o save_v or_o justifi_v kemnitij_fw-la argum_fw-la augustine_n thus_o write_v aliud_fw-la est_fw-la aqua_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la aliud_fw-la aqua_fw-la 6._o quae_fw-la significat_fw-la spiritum_fw-la dei_fw-la ista_fw-la visibilis_fw-la est_fw-la &_o abluit_fw-la corpus_fw-la &_o significat_fw-la quid_fw-la fit_a in_fw-la anima_fw-la per_fw-la illum_fw-la spiritum_fw-la anima_fw-la mundatur_fw-la &_o saginatur_fw-la the_o water_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v one_o thing_n the_o water_n which_o signify_v the_o spirit_n be_v another_o the_o one_o be_v visible_a and_o wash_v the_o flesh_n and_o signify_v what_o be_v do_v in_o the_o soul_n but_o by_o the_o spirit_n the_o soul_n be_v cleanse_v the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n then_o by_o this_o father_n sentence_n and_o so_o all_o other_o sacrament_n do_v not_o give_v grace_n but_o signify_v only_o and_o represent_v grace_n the_o second_o part_n of_o the_o difference_n of_o the_o old_a and_o new_a sacrament_n error_n 93_o the_o sacrifice_n and_o ceremony_n of_o the_o old_a law_n be_v so_o far_o
life_n or_o quicken_a to_o be_v make_v a_o true_a and_o right_a faith_n the_o word_n than_o be_v thus_o to_o be_v read_v and_o distinguish_v so_o faith_n without_o work_n be_v dead_a that_o be_v this_o kind_n of_o faith_n which_o neither_o work_v nor_o ever_o shall_v not_o thus_o faith_n be_v dead_a without_o work_n as_o though_o a_o true_a faith_n be_v quicken_v by_o work_n but_o even_o as_o the_o body_n be_v dead_a have_v neither_o soul_n nor_o the_o operation_n thereof_o life_n motion_n sense_n so_o this_o vain_a speculative_a kind_n of_o faith_n be_v dead_a both_o want_v the_o spirit_n and_o soul_n that_o be_v have_v not_o one_o spark_n of_o true_a faith_n neither_o the_o operation_n and_o fruit_n thereof_o which_o a_o lively_a faith_n show_v by_o love_n as_o the_o soul_n work_v life_n and_o motion_n in_o the_o body_n for_o a_o lively_a faith_n can_v never_o be_v without_o work_n and_o a_o dead_a faith_n will_v never_o have_v work_n but_o remain_v dead_a for_o ever_o we_o must_v not_o therefore_o think_v that_o it_o be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o faith_n which_o sometime_o be_v dead_a without_o work_n and_o again_o be_v make_v alive_a and_o quicken_v when_o work_n come_v but_o we_o must_v understand_v two_o kind_n of_o faith_n one_o altogether_o void_a of_o good_a work_n which_o be_v only_o a_o faith_n in_o name_n and_o a_o very_a dead_a faith_n another_o be_v a_o livelie_a faith_n always_o work_v and_o this_o can_v never_o become_v a_o dead_a faith_n so_o neither_o can_v the_o other_o be_v ever_o make_v a_o livelie_a faith_n argum._n that_o charity_n be_v not_o the_o form_n or_o any_o cause_n of_o faith_n but_o the_o effect_n rather_o and_o fruit_n thereof_o we_o do_v learn_v out_o of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n christ_n say_v john_n 3.18_o he_o that_o believe_v shall_v not_o be_v condemn_v but_o be_v already_o pass_v from_o death_n to_o life_n john_n 5.24_o i'faith_o than_o be_v able_a to_o save_v we_o and_o alone_o justifi_v we_o before_o god_n without_o love_n which_o always_o follow_v a_o true_a faith_n but_o be_v not_o join_v or_o make_v a_o partner_n with_o it_o in_o the_o matter_n of_o justification_n but_o faith_n can_v do_v nothing_o without_o the_o form_n thereof_o ergo_fw-la charity_n be_v not_o the_o form_n of_o faith_n saint_n paul_n also_o faith_n faith_n which_o work_v by_o love_n galath_n 5.6_o the_o be_v and_o substance_n of_o faith_n be_v one_o thing_n the_o work_v another_o love_v only_o concur_v with_o faith_n in_o the_o work_n it_o be_v no_o part_n of_o the_o essence_n or_o be_v of_o faith_n 67._o august_n ea_fw-la sola_fw-la bona_fw-la opera_fw-la dicenda_fw-la sunt_fw-la quae_fw-la fiunt_fw-la per_fw-la dilectionem_fw-la haec_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la antecedat_fw-la fides_fw-la ut_fw-la inde_fw-la ista_fw-la non_fw-la ab_fw-la istis_fw-la incipiat_fw-la illa_fw-la those_o only_o be_v to_o be_v count_v good_a work_n which_o be_v wrought_v by_o love_n faith_n of_o necessity_n must_v go_v before_o for_o they_o must_v take_v their_o beginning_n from_o faith_n and_o not_o faith_n from_o they_o i'faith_o than_o go_v before_o love_n that_o work_v therefore_o love_n be_v not_o the_o form_n of_o faith_n for_o forma_fw-la prio_fw-la est_fw-la re_fw-la formata_fw-la the_o form_n shall_v go_v before_o the_o thing_n form_v the_o four_o part_n how_o man_n be_v justify_v by_o faith_n the_o papist_n we_o be_v say_v to_o be_v justify_v by_o faith_n because_o faith_n be_v the_o beginning_n error_n 81_o foundation_n and_o the_o root_n of_o justification_n council_n triden_n sess_v 6._o cap._n 8._o i'faith_o then_o by_o their_o sentence_n do_v not_o full_o justify_v the_o believer_n but_o be_v the_o beginning_n way_n and_o preparation_n only_o to_o justification_n andrad_n ex_fw-la tilem_fw-la de_fw-fr fide_fw-la err_v 11._o rhemist_n rom._n 3._o sect_n 3._o the_o protestant_n faith_n be_v not_o the_o beginning_n only_o of_o our_o justification_n but_o the_o principal_a and_o only_a worker_n thereof_o neither_o be_v we_o justify_v in_o part_n or_o in_o whole_a by_o any_o other_o mean_v then_o by_o faith_n argum._n he_o that_o be_v at_o peace_n with_o god_n be_v full_o and_o perfect_o justify_v his_o conscience_n clear_v and_o his_o sin_n remit_v but_o by_o faith_n we_o have_v peace_n of_o conscience_n ergo_fw-la by_o faith_n we_o be_v full_o and_o perfect_o justify_v rom._n 5.1_o the_o scripture_n also_o faith_n the_o just_a man_n shall_v live_v by_o faith_n rom._n 1.17_o but_o we_o live_v not_o by_o justification_n begin_v only_o but_o perfect_v and_o finish_v ergo_fw-la our_o full_a justification_n be_v by_o faith_n augustine_n upon_o these_o word_n john_n 6.29_o this_o be_v the_o work_n of_o god_n that_o you_o believe_v etc._n etc._n si_fw-mi iustitia_fw-la est_fw-la opus_fw-la dei_fw-la quomodo_fw-la erit_fw-la opus_fw-la dei_fw-la ut_fw-la credatur_fw-la in_o eum_fw-la nisi_fw-la ipsa_fw-la sit_fw-la iustitia_fw-la ut_fw-la credamus_fw-la in_o eum_fw-la if_o justice_n or_o righteousness_n be_v the_o work_n of_o god_n how_o be_v it_o the_o work_n of_o god_n to_o believe_v in_o he_o unless_o it_o be_v righteousness_n itself_o to_o believe_v in_o he_o see_v then_o it_o be_v not_o initium_fw-la iustitiae_fw-la credere_fw-la sed_fw-la ipsa_fw-la iustitia_fw-la it_o be_v not_o the_o beginning_n of_o justice_n to_o believe_v but_o justice_n and_o righteousness_n itself_o the_o five_o part_n whether_o faith_n be_v meritorious_a the_o papist_n by_o faith_n we_o do_v merit_v eternal_a life_n catechis_n roman_n p._n 121._o ex_fw-la tilemann_n de_fw-fr error_n 82_o fide_fw-la err_v 20._o rhemists_n also_o ascribe_v merit_v to_o faith_n rom._n 3._o sect_n 3._o argum._n faith_n be_v a_o work_n ergo_fw-la if_o we_o be_v justify_v by_o faith_n we_o be_v justify_v by_o work_n and_o so_o consequent_o by_o merit_n the_o protestant_n ans._n faith_n in_o deed_n be_v a_o work_n but_o not_o any_o of_o our_o own_o work_n it_o be_v call_v the_o work_n of_o god_n john_n 6.29_o god_n do_v whole_o work_v it_o in_o we_o ergo_fw-la we_o can_v merit_v by_o it_o argum._n saint_n paul_n say_v ephes._n 2.8_o by_o grace_n be_v you_o save_v through_o faith_n not_o of_o yourselves_o for_o it_o be_v the_o gift_n of_o god_n not_o of_o work_n lest_o any_o man_n shall_v boast_v himself_o i'faith_o than_o be_v no_o meritorious_a cause_n of_o our_o justification_n but_o only_o a_o instrumental_a mean_n whereby_o we_o do_v apprehend_v the_o grace_n of_o god_n offer_v in_o christ_n god_n give_v both_o faith_n and_o the_o end_n of_o faith_n utrumque_fw-la dei_fw-la est_fw-la as_o augustine_n say_v &_o quod_fw-la iubet_fw-la 11._o &_o quod_fw-la offertur_fw-la believe_v and_o thou_o shall_v be_v save_v both_o come_v of_o god_n the_o thing_n command_v that_o be_v faith_n and_o the_o thing_n offer_v namely_o salvation_n ergo_fw-la all_o be_v of_o grace_n the_o sixth_o part_n whether_o to_o believe_v be_v in_o man_n power_n the_o papist_n rhemist_n act._n 13._o sect_n 2._o give_v this_o note_n that_o the_o gentile_n believe_v by_o their_o error_n 83_o own_o free_a will_n though_o principal_o by_o god_n grace_n therefore_o to_o believe_v partly_o consist_v in_o man_n free_a will_n though_o not_o altogether_o this_o be_v their_o opinion_n the_o protestant_n faith_n be_v the_o mere_a gift_n of_o god_n ephes._n 2.8_o and_o whole_o come_v from_o god_n it_o be_v not_o either_o in_o part_n or_o whole_a of_o ourselves_o argum._n rom._n 11.36_o of_o he_o through_o he_o and_o for_o he_o be_v all_o thing_n ergo_fw-la fidei_fw-la initium_fw-la ex_fw-la ipso_fw-la neque_fw-la hoc_fw-la excepto_fw-la ex_fw-la ipso_fw-la sunt_fw-la cetera_fw-la therefore_o say_v augustine_n the_o beginning_n of_o our_o faith_n be_v of_o he_o unless_o we_o will_v say_v that_o all_o thing_n else_o be_v of_o god_n this_o only_o except_v and_o afterward_o he_o show_v that_o our_o faith_n be_v whole_o of_o god_n not_o part_n of_o he_o part_n of_o ourselves_o sic_fw-la enim_fw-la homo_fw-la quasi_fw-la componet_fw-la cum_fw-la deo_fw-la ut_fw-la partem_fw-la fidei_fw-la sibi_fw-la vendicet_fw-la partem_fw-la deo_fw-la relinquat_fw-la so_o man_n shall_v as_o it_o be_v compound_v with_o god_n to_o challenge_v part_n of_o faith_n to_o himself_o and_o leave_v part_n for_o god_n the_o seven_o part_n whether_o faith_n may_v be_v lose_v the_o papist_n error_n 84_o a_o man_n may_v fall_v away_o from_o the_o faith_n which_o once_o true_o he_o have_v as_o saint_n paul_n say_v of_o some_o they_o have_v make_v shipwreck_n of_o faith_n 1._o timoth._n 1.19_o rhemist_n ibid._n ergo_fw-la true_a faith_n may_v be_v lose_v the_o protestant_n ans._n the_o apostle_n say_v some_o have_v put_v away_o a_o good_a conscience_n make_v shipwreck_n of_o faith_n such_o a_o faith_n in_o deed_n that_o have_v not_o a_o good_a conscience_n may_v be_v lose_v for_o it_o be_v not_o a_o true_a lively_a faith_n but_o a_o dead_a fruitless_a faith_n argum._n but_o he_o that_o once_o
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and_o what_o ignorance_n and_o infirmity_n he_o mean_v afterward_o he_o express_v 29._o cum_fw-la motibus_fw-la irrationabilibus_fw-la perturbantur_fw-la nulla_fw-la ratione_fw-la nullo_fw-la imperio_fw-la cohibentur_fw-la when_o their_o brutish_a and_o unreasonable_a motion_n come_v upon_o they_o they_o be_v rule_v neither_o by_o reason_n nor_o any_o other_o government_n these_o infirmity_n both_o in_o body_n and_o soul_n we_o deny_v to_o have_v be_v in_o christ_n and_o yet_o we_o doubt_v not_o to_o conclude_v that_o as_o christ_n grow_v in_o stature_n of_o body_n as_o augustine_n say_v ibid._n mutationes_fw-la aetatum_fw-la perpeti_fw-la voluit_fw-la ab_fw-la ipsa_fw-la exorsus_fw-la infantia_fw-la he_o pass_v through_o the_o age_n of_o man_n life_n begin_v with_o his_o infancy_n so_o likewise_o as_o the_o scripture_n say_v he_o increase_v in_o wisdom_n luk._n 2.52_o a_o appendix_n of_o the_o manner_n of_o christ_n birth_n the_o papist_n they_o say_v christ_n come_v out_o of_o his_o 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in_o the_o door_n be_v shut_v be_v strange_a and_o miraculous_a because_o one_o substance_n give_v place_n to_o another_o for_o a_o time_n and_o after_o the_o pass_v of_o his_o body_n the_o place_n remain_v whole_a and_o shut_v as_o before_o but_o not_o in_o the_o very_a instant_n of_o pass_v the_o red_a sea_n give_v place_n to_o the_o israelite_n while_o they_o pass_v and_o close_v together_o again_o so_o do_v the_o prison_n door_n open_v miraculous_o to_o the_o apostle_n act._n 5.19_o a_o incredulous_a jew_n see_v the_o ear_n of_o malchus_n so_o soon_o heal_v will_v not_o have_v think_v that_o peter_n sword_n go_v between_o it_o and_o his_o head_n as_o we_o be_v sure_a it_o do_v so_o we_o say_v concern_v the_o birth_n of_o christ_n that_o the_o place_n give_v way_n while_o he_o pass_v and_o close_v up_o afterward_o again_o as_o before_o augustine_n bring_v in_o christ_n thus_o speak_v ego_fw-la viam_fw-la meo_fw-la itineri_fw-la praeparavi_fw-la and_o a_o little_a after_o transitu_fw-la meo_fw-la illius_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la corrupta_fw-la virginitas_fw-la 5._o i_o make_v a_o way_n for_o myself_o out_o of_o the_o womb_n neither_o by_o my_o passage_n be_v her_o virginity_n lose_v christ_n have_v a_o way_n out_o of_o his_o mother_n womb_n but_o if_o the_o clausure_n have_v not_o give_v place_n there_o have_v be_v no_o way_n make_v 57_o again_o he_o say_v spatia_fw-la locorum_fw-la tolle_fw-la corporibus_fw-la nusquam_fw-la erunt_fw-la &_o quia_fw-la nusquam_fw-la erunt_fw-la nec_fw-la erunt_fw-la take_v away_o space_n of_o place_n from_o body_n and_o they_o shall_v be_v no_o where_o and_o if_o they_o be_v not_o where_o then_o be_v they_o not_o at_o all_o but_o the_o papist_n in_o say_v that_o christ_n go_v through_o the_o very_a substance_n and_o corpulence_n of_o thing_n do_v take_v away_o from_o his_o body_n his_o proper_a place_n for_o two_o substance_n can_v be_v in_o one_o place_n and_o therefore_o they_o destroy_v the_o nature_n of_o his_o body_n the_o three_o part_n whether_o christ_n suffer_v in_o soul_n the_o papist_n they_o utter_o deny_v that_o christ_n feel_v any_o pain_n or_o anguish_n in_o soul_n upon_o the_o error_n 100_o cross_n otherwise_o then_o for_o grief_n of_o his_o bodily_a torment_n but_o do_v charge_v they_o with_o horrible_a blasphemy_n that_o do_v so_o affirm_v rhemist_n math._n 27._o sect_n 3._o 1._o the_o scripture_n do_v ascribe_v the_o work_n of_o our_o redemption_n and_o reconciliation_n only_o to_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n upon_o the_o cross_n coloss._n 1.20_o ephes._n 1.7_o ergo_fw-la the_o death_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n without_o any_o further_a anguish_n in_o soul_n be_v sufficient_a bellarm._n de_fw-fr christi_fw-la anima_fw-la lib._n 4._o cap._n 8._o ans._n 1._o by_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n upon_o the_o cross_n must_v needs_o be_v understand_v all_o the_o part_n and_o circumstance_n of_o his_o passion_n both_o his_o suffering_n in_o body_n and_o soul_n for_o if_o it_o 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be_v the_o life_n thereof_o genes_n 9.4_o levit._fw-la 17.14_o but_o the_o soul_n be_v the_o life_n of_o man_n ergo_fw-la not_o unproper_o by_o the_o shed_n of_o christ_n blood_n even_o the_o vexation_n and_o at_o the_o last_o the_o expiration_n of_o his_o soul_n and_o so_o his_o whole_a passion_n both_o in_o body_n and_o soul_n be_v signify_v wherefore_o as_o in_o those_o place_n allege_v we_o read_v the_o blood_n of_o christ_n or_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o cross_n so_o otherwhere_o in_o more_o general_a term_n the_o apostle_n call_v it_o the_o die_a of_o christ_n 2._o cor._n 4.10_o and_o the_o suffering_n of_o christ_n 1._o pet._n 4.13_o argum._n 2._o if_o christ_n when_o he_o cry_v out_o upon_o the_o cross_n o_o god_n my_o god_n why_o have_v thou_o forsake_v i_o have_v feel_v the_o wrath_n of_o god_n and_o despair_v of_o his_o help_n he_o shall_v most_o greevous_o have_v sin_v bellarm._n ibid._n ans._n 1._o it_o can_v be_v that_o christ_n thus_o cry_v out_o for_o the_o pain_n of_o bodily_a death_n for_o than_o he_o have_v be_v of_o great_a infirmity_n than_o many_o of_o his_o servant_n that_o in_o the_o midst_n of_o extreme_a torment_n never_o complain_v and_o therefore_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v the_o burden_n of_o the_o wrath_n and_o curse_n of_o god_n that_o he_o endure_v for_o our_o sin_n that_o make_v he_o so_o to_o cry_v out_o upon_o the_o cross_n 2._o neither_o do_v it_o follow_v that_o christ_n utter_v those_o word_n in_o despair_n but_o only_o to_o show_v the_o great_a anguish_n trouble_n and_o perturbation_n of_o his_o spirit_n be_v upon_o the_o cross_n consider_v now_o as_o a_o mere_a man_n his_o divine_a nature_n and_o power_n repress_v and_o hide_v itself_o for_o a_o time_n and_o although_o in_o the_o vexation_n of_o his_o soul_n he_o thus_o cry_v out_o yet_o he_o be_v not_o altogether_o leave_v comfortless_a in_o spirit_n in_o that_o he_o say_v my_o god_n
of_o his_o abase_v and_o humiliation_n fulke_n annot_v in_o hunc_fw-la locum_fw-la as_o s._n paul_n say_v that_o he_o make_v himself_o of_o no_o reputation_n and_o take_v upon_o he_o the_o form_n of_o a_o servant_n philip._n 2.7_o the_o protestant_n that_o christ_n our_o saviour_n by_o the_o virtue_n of_o his_o death_n do_v overcome_v hell_n and_o the_o devil_n we_o do_v very_o believe_v which_o may_v be_v call_v a_o descent_n into_o hell_n that_o he_o also_o suffer_v the_o torment_n of_o hell_n upon_o the_o cross_n and_o so_o descend_v into_o hell_n for_o we_o to_o abide_v that_o bitter_a pain_n which_o we_o have_v deserve_v to_o suffer_v eternal_o we_o do_v also_o hold_v and_o teach_v for_o what_o rather_o may_v be_v call_v hell_n than_o the_o anguish_n of_o soul_n which_o he_o suffer_v when_o he_o be_v god_n yet_o complain_v that_o he_o be_v forsake_v of_o god_n furthermore_n if_o descend_v into_o hell_n be_v take_v according_a to_o the_o hebrew_n phrase_n for_o enter_v into_o the_o 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