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do_v so_o that_o they_o be_v for_o multitude_n innumerable_a i_o never_o mean_v say_v 13._o say_v august_n lib._n 1._o retract_v c._n 13._o he_o as_o though_o that_o now_o no_o miracle_n be_v do_v in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n for_o that_o in_o milan_n a_o blindman_n receive_v his_o sight_n at_o the_o shrine_n of_o the_o martyr_n and_o sundry_a the_o like_a miracle_n myself_o do_v even_o then_o know_v to_o have_v be_v do_v in_o which_o kind_n so_o many_o be_v wrought_v in_o this_o our_o age_n as_o we_o neither_o know_v they_o all_o nor_o can_v number_v they_o we_o know_v how_o dare_v you_o name_v this_o testimony_n to_o prove_v miracle_n to_o be_v cease_v also_o that_o miracle_n can_v be_v sufficient_a testimony_n of_o christian_a faith_n as_o the_o i_o the_o si_fw-mi non_fw-la opera_fw-la in_o eye_n fecissem_fw-la quae_fw-la nemo_fw-la alius_fw-la fecit_fw-la peccatum_fw-la non_fw-la haberent_fw-la joan._n 15._o â—4_n &_o 5.20_o ego_fw-la habeo_fw-la testimonium_fw-la maius_fw-la joanne_n opera_fw-la enim_fw-la quae_fw-la dedit_fw-la mihi_fw-la pater_fw-la ut_fw-la faciam_fw-la ipsa_fw-la testimonium_fw-la perhibent_fw-la de_fw-la i_o scripture_n term_v they_o you_o 24._o you_o pag._n 112._o lin_v 24._o cite_v suarez_n the_o jesuit_n 3._o jesuit_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la catholica_fw-la contra_fw-la sect._n anglican_n l._n 1._o c._n 7._o §._o 3._o say_v haec_fw-la adulterari_fw-la possunt_fw-la &_o ita_fw-la exteriùs_fw-la fingi_fw-la ut_fw-la non_fw-la sint_fw-la necessaria_fw-la signa_fw-la verae_fw-la fidei_fw-la miracle_n may_v so_o be_v adulterare_v and_o external_o falsify_v that_o they_o can_v not_o be_v necessary_a sign_n of_o the_o true_a faith_n thus_o you_o cite_v suarez_n but_o how_o gross_o these_o be_v not_o the_o word_n of_o suarez_n but_o word_n speak_v by_o way_n of_o objection_n in_o the_o behalf_n of_o protestant_n for_o their_o paradox_n that_o the_o church_n be_v invisible_a this_o be_v then_o your_o argument_n in_o suarez_n without_o faith_n the_o true_a church_n can_v not_o subsist_v but_o there_o be_v no_o infallible_a external_a &_o visible_a sign_n of_o true_a faith_n see_v even_o miracle_n themselves_o may_v be_v forge_v and_o counterfeit_v ergo_fw-la the_o church_n can_v be_v assure_o know_v by_o visible_a mark_n suarez_n have_v urge_v this_o argument_n with_o other_o large_o he_o say_v 8._o say_v ibid._n §_o 8._o notwithstanding_o all_o this_o we_o must_v believe_v the_o church_n to_o be_v visible_a and_o to_o the_o argument_n about_o miracle_n credentium_fw-la miracle_n ibid._n c._n 8._o §._o 9_o non_fw-la ad_fw-la cognoscendam_fw-la singulorum_fw-la credentium_fw-la fidem_fw-la sed_fw-la ad_fw-la cognoscendam_fw-la congregationem_fw-la verè_fw-la credentium_fw-la he_o say_v that_o though_o they_o be_v not_o certain_a token_n of_o the_o sanctity_n of_o the_o person_n that_o do_v they_o yet_o they_o be_v sufficient_a sign_n to_o prove_v that_o true_a faith_n &_o sanctify_v be_v in_o the_o church_n wherein_o they_o be_v do_v so_o that_o what_o suarez_n the_o jesuit_n set_v down_o out_o of_o protestant_n as_o to_o be_v by_o he_o refell_v you_o produce_v as_o the_o assertion_n and_o doctrine_n of_o suarez_n if_o you_o believe_v that_o god_n will_v severe_o punish_v those_o that_o deceive_v soul_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n by_o forgery_n and_o fraud_n i_o wonder_v how_o you_o do_v not_o fear_v to_o cite_v a_o cite_v pag._n 160._o lin_v ult._n &_o in_o mark_fw-mi lit_fw-fr a_o s._n chrysostome_n homil._n 3._o upon_o the_o act_n as_o affirm_v that_o no_o monarchical_a and_o supereminent_a action_n be_v exercise_v by_o s._n peter_n no_o vassalage_n or_o subjection_n yield_v he_o by_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n in_o your_o margin_n you_o cite_v these_o word_n his_o petrus_n egit_fw-la omne_fw-la ex_fw-la communi_fw-la discipulorum_fw-la sententia_fw-la nihil_fw-la ex_fw-la authoritate_fw-la nihil_fw-la cum_fw-la imperio_fw-la peter_n do_v all_o thing_n by_o common_a advice_n of_o the_o disciple_n nothing_o by_o way_n of_o authority_n and_o command_n thus_o you_o cite_v s._n chrysostome_n now_o see_v your_o falsehood_n he_o say_v not_o as_o you_o cite_v he_o universal_o peter_n never_o do_v any_o thing_n by_o way_n of_o authority_n and_o command_n but_o speak_v of_o the_o election_n of_o s._n mathias_n he_o say_v that_o in_o this_o business_n he_o do_v all_o by_o common_a advice_n not_o by_o way_n of_o authority_n and_o then_o add_v present_o that_o this_o not_o use_v authority_n be_v wisdom_n and_o modesty_n not_o want_n of_o authority_n in_o peter_n behold_v his_o word_n so_o pregnant_a for_o peter_n monarchy_n as_o nothing_o can_v be_v speak_v more_o full_o why_o do_v he_o peter_n communicate_v this_o business_n with_o they_o videretur_fw-la they_o quid_fw-la an_fw-mi non_fw-la licebat_fw-la ipse_fw-la eligere_fw-la licebat_fw-la &_o quidem_fw-la maximè_fw-la verumtamen_fw-la non_fw-la id_fw-la fecit_fw-la ne_fw-la cviquam_fw-la gratificari_fw-la videretur_fw-la what_o have_v he_o not_o power_n to_o make_v the_o election_n himself_o he_o may_v very_o have_v do_v it_o alone_o without_o any_o question_n but_o he_o do_v not_o lest_o he_o shall_v be_v think_v partial_a to_o some_o one_o have_v he_o choose_v he_o by_o this_o sole_a authority_n and_o again_o this_o be_v the_o wisdom_n and_o foresight_n of_o this_o doctor_n he_o say_v not_o we_o alone_o be_v sufficient_a to_o teach_v and_o although_o he_o have_v right_a to_o appoint_v a_o apostle_n as_o much_o as_o they_o all_o have_v that_o be_v he_o can_v alone_o have_v do_v as_o much_o as_o together_o with_o they_o in_o respect_n of_o his_o eminent_a power_n yet_o this_o do_v it_o with_o advice_n be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o virtue_n of_o the_o man_n and_o because_o eminency_n in_o spiritual_a power_n be_v not_o a_o honour_n but_o care_n of_o subject_n yet_o worthy_o â—uoâ—_n worthy_o meritò_fw-la primus_fw-la omnium_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la usurpat_fw-la in_o negotio_fw-la ut_fw-la qui_fw-la omneâ—_n habebat_fw-la in_o manu_fw-la ad_fw-la hunc_fw-la enim_fw-la dixit_fw-la christus_fw-la &_o tu_fw-la conversus_fw-la confirm_v fratres_n â—uoâ—_n do_v he_o first_o before_o they_o all_o exercise_n authority_n in_o the_o business_n who_o have_v all_o the_o rest_n at_o his_o disposition_n and_o will_n for_o this_o be_v he_o unto_o who_o our_o lord_n say_v thou_o be_v convert_v confirm_v thy_o brethren_n thus_o s._n chrysostome_n can_v any_o thing_n â—e_v devise_v more_o full_a to_o show_v that_o peter_n have_v and_o do_v exercise_v monarchical_a authority_n special_o see_v s._n chrysostome_n in_o that_o very_a place_n say_v further_a upon_o the_o word_n peter_n rise_v up_o in_o the_o midst_n of_o the_o disciple_n say_v princeps_fw-la say_v quomodo_fw-la cognoscit_fw-la creditum_fw-la sibi_fw-la à _fw-la christo_fw-la gregem_fw-la quam_fw-la in_fw-la hoc_fw-la choro_fw-la est_fw-la princeps_fw-la behold_v how_o fervent_a be_v peter_n how_o he_o do_v acknowledge_v â—nd_a overuiew_n the_o flock_n commit_v to_o he_o by_o christ_n how_o do_v he_o show_v himself_o prince_n &_o primate_n â—f_o this_o quire_n behold_v likewise_o the_o modesty_n of_o james_n he_o â—ad_v the_o office_n of_o bishop_n of_o jerusalem_n yet_o he_o speak_v nothing_o consider_v also_o the_o singular_a modesty_n of_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n disceptantes_fw-la apostle_n quo_fw-la pacto_fw-la concedunt_fw-la ei_fw-la solium_fw-la non_fw-la ampliùs_fw-la disceptantes_fw-la how_o they_o yield_v the_o throne_n of_o primacy_n â—nto_fw-mi he_o not_o strive_v for_o it_o among_o themselves_o as_o they_o â—ad_v former_o do_v thus_o s._n chrysostome_n which_o thing_n â—re_n so_o clear_a for_o peter_n exercise_v monarchical_a priâ—acy_n and_o for_o the_o apostle_n yield_v vassalage_n unto_o â—im_n that_o it_o be_v manifest_v you_o can_v not_o cite_v this_o place_n â—ut_v against_o your_o conscience_n know_v you_o do_v but_o delude_v soul_n in_o matter_n of_o salvation_n against_o the_o â—ruth_n gross_a imputation_n with_o manifest_a falsehood_n impute_v unto_o card._n baronius_n §._o 5._o what_o impudence_n it_o be_v for_o you_o to_o write_v as_o you_o do_v pag._n 114._o lin_v 14._o
to_o evade_v first_o by_o deny_v that_o bless_a saint_n have_v the_o knowledge_n of_o prophesy_n in_o a_o more_o excellent_a and_o permanent_a manner_n then_o have_v the_o prophet_n in_o this_o life_n this_o be_v plain_a against_o the_o word_n of_o the_o apostle_n cite_v by_o the_o answerer_n for_o the_o apostle_n affirm_v that_o the_o gift_n of_o prophecy_n in_o this_o life_n be_v but_o ex_fw-la parte_fw-la imperfect_a in_o respect_n of_o thâ—_n prophesy_v and_o knowledge_n of_o the_o next_o which_o the_o bless_a enjoy_v exit_fw-la parte_fw-la propheâ—â—mus_fw-la tunc_fw-la cognoscam_fw-la sicut_fw-la &_o cognitus_fw-la sum_fw-la second_o he_o say_v though_o the_o blesed_a have_v the_o gift_n of_o prophecy_n eminent_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o theâ—_n have_v the_o exercise_n thereof_o according_a to_o every_o material_a object_n it_o have_v in_o thâ—â—_n life_n i_o answer_v that_o the_o saint_n of_o god_n have_v the_o gift_n of_o prophecy_n permanent_o &_o eminent_o &_o as_o 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of_o knowledge_n be_v evacuate_v from_o they_o ergo_fw-la they_o see_v thing_n absent_a and_o secret_n of_o heart_n now_o no_o less_o than_o they_o shall_v do_v then_o this_o be_v that_o which_o s._n hierome_n do_v defend_v to_o earnest_o against_o vigilantius_n that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o martyr_n be_v present_a where_o their_o shrine_n and_o relic_n be_v &_o never_o absent_v but_o still_o ready_a to_o hear_v the_o prayer_n of_o their_o suppliant_n not_o think_v that_o they_o be_v present_a in_o so_o many_o place_n substantial_o according_a to_o their_o soul_n but_o that_o they_o be_v present_a as_o elizaeus_n be_v present_a unto_o giezi_n in_o spirit_n behold_v what_o pass_v as_o clear_o as_o if_o they_o be_v corporal_o present_a three_o it_o be_v clear_o to_o be_v prove_v by_o scripture_n that_o holy_a angel_n see_v the_o prayer_n and_o action_n and_o affection_n of_o man_n in_o the_o apocalip_n c._n 8.4_o a_o angel_n offer_v unto_o god_n the_o prayer_n of_o man_n which_o he_o can_v not_o have_v do_v have_v he_o not_o know_v they_o appellant_n they_o the_o minister_n pag._n 314._o lin_v 12._o say_v this_o place_n be_v understand_v not_o of_o a_o angel_n by_o nature_n but_o of_o a_o angel_n by_o type_n answer_n we_o must_v understand_v the_o word_n of_o god_n in_o the_o literal_a sense_n except_o we_o can_v clear_o demonstrate_v by_o scripture_n the_o literal_a sense_n to_o be_v absurd_a and_o this_o obligation_n do_v more_o special_o lie_v upon_o protestant_n who_o from_o perpetual_a tradition_n appeal_v unto_o scripture_n understand_v by_o exact_a conference_n of_o place_n as_o unto_o the_o last_o and_o supreme_a judge_n but_o you_o bring_v not_o one_o word_n of_o scripture_n to_o prove_v that_o in_o this_o place_n a_o angel_n by_o nature_n can_v be_v understand_v therefore_o you_o run_v to_o type_n and_o tropical_a sense_n without_o warrant_n of_o scripture_n by_o which_o yet_o you_o pretend_v you_o will_v be_v final_o try_v be_v you_o not_o then_o a_o ridiculous_a and_o vain_a appellant_n our_o saviour_n witness_v luc._n 15.10_o that_o the_o angel_n rejoice_v at_o the_o conversion_n of_o a_o sinner_n so_o they_o must_v needs_o know_v it_o nor_o can_v they_o know_v it_o without_o know_v the_o sinner_n heart_n soul_n heart_n the_o minister_n pag._n 315._o lin_v 15._o object_n against_o this_o argument_n that_o holy_a man_n on_o earth_n rejoice_v at_o the_o conversion_n of_o sinner_n yet_o they_o know_v not_o secret_n of_o heart_n therefore_o this_o argument_n be_v not_o good_a angel_n rejoice_v in_o the_o conversion_n of_o sinner_n ergo_fw-la they_o know_v the_o secret_a pious_a affection_n of_o man_n heart_n answer_n the_o joy_n of_o just_a man_n in_o this_o life_n be_v imperfect_a and_o mingle_v with_o fear_n nor_o do_v they_o rejoice_v in_o re_fw-mi in_o the_o thing_n but_o in_o spe_fw-mi in_o the_o hope_n that_o man_n conversion_n be_v sincere_a and_o in_o the_o outward_a sign_n thereof_o but_o the_o bless_a angel_n joy_n be_v perfect_a devoid_a of_o fear_n &_o they_o rejoice_v not_o in_o the_o hope_n but_o in_o the_o thing_n &_o conversion_n itself_o therefore_o they_o must_v know_v the_o inward_a piety_n and_o devotion_n of_o the_o soul_n conversion_n not_o be_v true_a noâ—_n worthy_a of_o joy_n except_o it_o proceed_v from_o the_o hart_n he_o hart_n although_o the_o place_n speak_v direct_o of_o the_o bless_a that_o they_o shall_v be_v like_a unto_o angel_n in_o incorruption_n of_o body_n yet_o it_o prove_v the_o same_o of_o beatitude_n of_o soul_n for_o see_v the_o glory_n of_o body_n flow_v from_o the_o glory_n of_o the_o soul_n bless_a saint_n shall_v not_o be_v like_a to_o the_o angel_n in_o glory_n of_o body_n be_v they_o not_o like_a and_o their_o equal_n in_o the_o bless_a sight_n and_o vision_n their_o soul_n have_v of_o god_n and_o of_o thing_n contain_v in_o he_o s._n paul_n say_v we_o be_v make_v a_o spectacle_n unto_o god_n and_o angel_n &_o he_o adjure_v timothy_n by_o god_n and_o his_o angel_n which_o show_v that_o we_o live_v in_o the_o sight_n of_o angel_n &_o that_o they_o behold_v what_o we_o do_v and_o hear_v what_o we_o say_v even_o in_o our_o heart_n but_o as_o the_o same_o scripture_n luc._n 20.36_o math._n 22.30_o aver_v the_o saint_n be_v like_a unto_o the_o angel_n and_o equal_a unto_o the_o angel_n and_o in_o heaven_n the_o same_o be_v the_o measure_n of_o a_o man_n &_o of_o a_o angel_n apocal._n 21.17_o aug._n ep_v 112._o ergo_fw-la knowledge_n of_o our_o prayer_n be_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v to_o glorious_a saint_n the_o fellow_n of_o angel_n neither_o can_v saint_n without_o knowledge_n of_o humane_a affair_n be_v perfect_o bless_v blessedness_n be_v a_o state_n wherein_o all_o just_a and_o reasonable_a desire_n of_o nature_n be_v satisfy_v with_o uttermost_a content_n according_a to_o that_o of_o the_o psalm_n 16.15_o satiabor_fw-la cùm_fw-la apparuerit_fw-la gloria_fw-la tua_fw-la and_o who_o can_v think_v that_o saint_n full_a of_o glory_n and_o charity_n do_v not_o earnest_o desire_v desire_n desire_v the_o minister_n against_o this_o reply_n pag._n 319._o saying_n that_o the_o saint_n desire_v to_o know_v no_o more_o than_o it_o be_v god_n will_v they_o shall_v know_v but_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v by_o scripture_n that_o it_o be_v god_n will_v they_o shall_v know_v the_o thing_n do_v on_o earth_n answer_n we_o must_v still_o suppose_v that_o the_o course_n and_o will_n of_o god_n be_v suitable_a to_o the_o nature_n of_o thing_n except_o the_o contrary_n be_v clear_o prove_v the_o nature_n of_o charity_n be_v to_o desire_v to_o know_v the_o state_n of_o our_o friend_n and_o their_o proceed_n and_o affection_n towards_o us._n ergo_fw-la the_o saint_n be_v full_a of_o charity_n be_v to_o be_v suppose_v to_o desire_v to_o know_v the_o state_n of_o their_o friend_n they_o leave_v behind_o they_o upon_o earth_n and_o for_o who_o salvation_n they_o â—e_v solicitous_a except_o our_o minister_n