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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A43112	Animadversions upon a late quibling libel from the Hartford Quakers, stiled, A testimony for the man Christ Jesus demonstrating that it is not the same true and real man Christ Jesus that they give testimony unto, but another false and feigned Jesus, or, A fresh and fuller draught of the same antidote, against the poyson presented in the whores golden cup / by Will. Haworth.	Haworth, William.	1676 (1676)	Wing H1194; ESTC R19450	28,927	32

Soul of Christ be Immense and Infinite and this is too much for us to swallow for then there must be a new created God in time because every Infinite and Immense is God Now the Soul of Christ's Manhood was created in time who can make that which is crooked straight Error is crookedness absurdity and rottenness when it comes to the tryal In the close of this I would ask them whether in these two Scriptures viz. Isa 61.1 The Spirit of the Lord God it s upon me the Lord hath anointed me and Joh. 3.34 For God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him By the Spirit is to be understood the Soul of Christ the Essential part if not as I believe then have I an easie way of reconciling my self in this matter telling them that when I grant that Christ is present with and in his Saints on Earth by his Spirit that I mean the Holy Ghost who is God and Infinite and can be and is in all the Saints both that are in Heaven and on Earth at once not the Spirit of the Manhood an Essential part that is a finite Creature therefore their notion is ridiculous They cannot pass over the report I made of Will. Bates a Neighbour what he should say viz. that what was taken of the Virgin had now no being They question whether I truly state the matter and censure me sharply to be of a creeping peevish insinuating spirit to seek an occasion against my Neighbour and to notify him in Print Pag. 7. Answ It was so exceeding gross and blunt a speech that having an occasion to write upon this Subject of the Manhood of Christ I could do no less then Print it and surely instead of condemning me they should have censured their Brother Bates for speaking so rashly and plainly as that there is not a starting hole no bit of any equivocation no room left to leap back which is not the Quakers way of expressing themselves Now that it may appear that I had a right call when I went to discourse with Will. Bates and therefore am wrongfully censured by these men to be of a creeping spirit seeking occasion against my Neighbour c. and that I have stated the matter right read the following Certificate Be it known to all whom it may concern that we whose names are subscribed do testify that it was through our motion and desire that William Haworth was present at the discourse we had with William Bates and that we did more then once hear him plainly say that what Christ took of the Virgin had now no being Sept. 19. 1676. Daniel Doughty John Albury Stephen Tothil We evidently see now they are not all guided by one and the same Infallible Light else that Light is not one with it self in that it directs them to contrary Opinions Will. Bates saith that which was taken of the Virgin had now no being These Hartfordians Pag. 7. That the Man Christ did neither perish nor vanish in any thing Essential to him as to his Spirit or Body Who can bring the two Poles of North and South together let them as can reconcile these two sayings But withal let me ask them whether Visibility Materiality Finiteness and having the same shape be not Essential to the Man Christ there is none in their wits can deny it but these men as hath in some measure already appeared and will farther appear in the progress have taken away the Visibility Materiality Finiteness and having the same Humane Figure from the body of the Man Christ they have then herein manifested themselves no less than gross Lyers and Cheaters for there hath something Essential perished as to his Soul and Body according to their Doctrine withall let them remember that I had more proof for my Charge against them then meerly my opinion as they of the Barbican Dispute Pag. 4. when as I have such a plain loud witness as this viz. that which was taken of the Virgin had now no being But here is still more against our Opinion viz. Christ is now a man in Heaven if so how then can we disintangle our selves from that thing charged upon us in the 8th Page that in this we resemble the carnal Opinion of the Anthropomorphites who hold that God is like unto Man in shape and form and that he hath a right and and left hand as Men have which likewise Mugleton holds What would these men be at when shall we find them constant my soul pitieth their instability how are they tossed to and fro did they not all along say in words that Jesus Christ was a Man in Heaven had the Essentials of a Man soul and body Now if he hath a Humane body it must necessarily have a Humane shape why then they Symbolize with that Brute Mugleton as much as Wee and if they be concerned let them answer for themselves only you see by their way of reasoning they believe not a word of what they say viz. That Christ is a Man in Heaven but equivocates in all otherwise why would they produce this We can answer for our selves we are not guilty of having any such gross carnal conceptions of the Deity as to think or say that the Humane shape is the shape of the Deity we abhor such idolatrous thoughts we know what the Scripture saith and believe it Isai 40.25 To whom then will you liken God or what likeness will you compare him to Deut. 4.12 Ye saw no similitude but only heard a voice but we say the Word was made Flesh Joh. 1.14 and in that Flesh ascended into Heaven hath that same Body and Soul there and it is still in union with the Deity the fulness of the Godhead dwelleth bodily in him Col. 2.9 but the form and figure the Body hath there is not the form and figure of the Deity but of the Manhood the Godhead is Infinite and Immense And when we speak of Gods right hand and Christs sitting there we mean a state and place of Honour Power and Glory that Christ upon his Ascension was exalted to Still they dispute against that they seem to own viz That Christ is now a Man in Heaven If his being ascended into Heaven hinders him from being on Earth why not his ascending far above all Heavens from being in Heaven Pag. 9. Here is a second of the Objections as they say of my own framing Answ In my last little Book I opened this Phrase viz. Far above all Heavens Any of the three Senses I gave is safe and good First Far above all Heavens is no more then that in Psal 68.18 from whence this is taken nay the very same with it Thou hast ascended on high 2. By the Heavens may be understood the visible Heavens that may be seen with the bodily eye because of their nearness to us 3. Or Heavenly Powers Angelical Nature and Perfection Now let us draw up their Argument Jesus Christ ascended on high above the lower Heavens

wise men it s said fell down and worshipped him when a Babe Matth. 8.2 The Leper worshipped him Matth. 9.18 There the Ruler worshipped him Matth. 14.33 They that were in the Ship upon his stilling the Storm worshipped him Matth. 15.25 The Women of Canaan worshipped him John 9.38 The blind man that Christ healed worshipped him After his Resurrection Mat. 28.9 They held him by the feet and worshipped him and the 17. vers And since his Ascension John worshipped him in the Visions he had and Rev. 5. The twenty four Elders yea and every Creature in its kind and way is said to worship the Lamb See what ingenous men these be to say my talk is unscriptural in pleading for the Humane Nature of Christ to be worshipped in conjunction with the Deity the foundation of the worship being the Deity neither is my talk uncouth but only to them that understand not the Christian Religion it is used by all the Christian Churches and by all Christian Writers that have written any thing of the Humane Nature of Christ especially if they have any contention with Socinians The same can I say of the other Property viz. That the Flesh of Christ giveth life to our Souls I have explained my self in that discourse in what way and manner it giveth life let them if they dare oppose it how unscriptural is this when as I there annexed John 6.53 Except ye eat my Flesh and drink my Blood ye have no life in you whenever Christ mentioneth his Flesh and Blood as here our judgement and belief is that he hath always respect to his Manhood and the benefits the Church hath by his Incarnation let them dare to contradict it and we say that this Flesh that gives life is himself the Manhood with the Deity is but one Person one Christ one Mediator and both are spoken in that place which they in their corrupt judgments alledge against us John 6.5 Pag. 13. robbing the Humanity of that which is due to it Now let us gather up all briefly without wronging them a title and you shall see what a strange Manhood it is that they have confessed to 1. Its according to them a Manhood that is no way the object of Sense cannot any way be seen felt or heard though it was both seen felt and heard after the Resurrection which was a glorified state 2. It is an Infinite Immense God not any where to be circumscribed it may be in a thousand times ten thousand of Saints at once 3. It is so thin subtle that it can penetrate doors Stone walls 4. It is informe hath no shape Figure Lineaments Countenance that is Humane 5. No one is to give any worship to it though in union with the Godhead 6. It is such a Manhood as did not die for Sinners nor doth not now intercede for Sinners For thus I argue according to what hath past if the Flesh of Christ hath not procured life for our Souls which they call'd unscriptural uncouth not to be taken notice of then did Christ never die for Sinners life for our Souls could no way be procured but by expiating and taking away the cause of death which was sin Now sin is no way expiated but by the death of Jesus Christ but Jesus Christ only died as Man suffered as to his Flesh had there been no Manhood there had been no Offering no Sacrifice 2. According to them the Man Christ doth not now intercede if he procured not Life by his Flesh and Manhood he doth not intercede there can be no life to our Souls without the Spirit and Faith now there is neither Spirit nor Faith to any but by the Intercession of Christ he obtains them thereby for us but now there is no Intercession without the Flesh and Manhood of Christ the blood of the Sacrifice was carried into the holiest which figured this viz. Christ carries the Merit of his sufferings into Heaven 1 John 2.2 He is an Advocate by vertue of his being a Propitiation it is the Man Christ Jesus that is the Mediator 7. Such a man is Christ as is not now a Priest Heb. 8.4 If he were on earth 1 Tim. 2.5 he should not be a Priest but he is on Earth the Quakers say at least in one Essential part of his Manhood his Soul is in every S●int you see Error is big bellied and fruitful This is the effect of forsaking the Scripture setting up another Rule not content with sound Doctrine given forth in sound words condemning the Christians in this day as having gross and carnal conceptions of things refining Religion and the blessed holy glorious true real operative Manhood of Jesus Christ into Air Wind Fancy Nothing and all this under a pretence that they are fully for it but we have tried them and you now plainly perceive what their true Scriptural sense is which they speak of Pag. 13. We have done with that controversy concerning the Manhood of Christ now they undertake to vindicate Christopher Tayler whom we answered in a Postscript whom if he be living I thought was at years off to answer for himself And now say they to manifest how like a confused and distempered crazed man W. H. writes take a short view of some of his inconsistencies c. Pag. 13. Reply Christ my Lord was accounted mad by his own kindred and by others the Scribes and Pharisees the Apostle Paul by Agrippa and the false Teachers was thus stigmatized to be besides himself it was a common thing among the Papists thus to censure the Martyrs because Philpot in the Convocation house manifested but a little more then ordinary zeal against the Popish errors they gave it out that he was raging Bedlam mad this is an old trick of the Devil I could name you one of my Brethren that is full of zeal for Christ that they have not long since thus dealt with all must I think much then if in this I be conformed to Christ to his Apostles to the Martyrs and the worthiest of my Brethren no surely it is my honour and we have reason to pity this People that herein as in other things they make themselves so like the Antichristian Papists I could tell them of that common speech that some there be that are not in danger of madness and say again that it might discompose the most composed man still to converse with men in Bedlam They are at it again Pag. 16. Lest he fall into manifest distraction as may tend to his and your reproach for he appears in some danger Answ Questionless they have recourse in their thoughts to that Prophet of theirs Will. Baily who pronounced a dreadful sentence against me viz. that in the name of the living God I should be mad this was at Hartford in the hearing of many to the utter shame of all their Party that was there if they had but a dram of true Humility I am sure to the amazement of many of us and the