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A66448	George Fox digg'd out of his burrowes, or, An offer of disputation on fourteen proposals made this last summer 1672 (so cal'd) unto G. Fox, then present on Rhode-Island in New England by R.W. : as also how (G. Fox slily departing) the disputation went on being managed three dayes at Newport on Rhode Island, and one day at Providence between John Stubs, John Burnet, and William Edmondson on the one part, and R.W. on the other : in which many quotations out of G. Fox and Edward Burrowes book ... are alleadged : with an appendix of some scores of G.F. his simple lame answers to his opposites in that book quoted and replyed to / by R.W.	Williams, Roger, 1604?-1683.	1676 (1676)	Wing W2764; ESTC R26378	307,504	516

and Congregations contrary to so many Reasons from Nature and Grace so positively expressed by the Holy Spirit in Scripture What Spirits are their Dumb Spirits in their Dumbe Meetings but those foul dumbe Spirits mentioned in that Gospel which the Lord Jesus will cast out and tumble down to Hell whence they came in his holy season What is their monstrous way of Singing and Toning and Humming many at once as they often do and notoriously did at Portsmouth on Rhode Island this last year when no man is edified nor understands what they say and it may be not themselves and this under colour of singing in the Spirit what is it I say but rendring their Tongues which should be their Glory and the Glory of God their scorn and shame and the holy Name of Gods holy Spirit contemptible also 4. I did also mention a fourth Reason against their Spirit and had prosecuted it but I knew that by reason of my Adversaries interposure I had exceeded my quarter of an hour It was taken from the Holy Spirit of God subjecting it self to be tried commanding all men to search the Records commending the Bereans for examining Pauls Preaching and Spirit by the Holy Scriptures and this is the true meaning of the Spirit of the Prophets are subject to the Prophets not that a true Prophet or Messenger of God can subject the truth of God which he believes so to be and will rather suffer many deaths then relinquish to be sentenced by all the Prophets in the Church to be false and he acquiess or rest in 87 or subject his Spirit and Conscience to that Sentence but that the true Prophets of God are willing to have their Teachings questioned examined and made clear by the holy Records to the Souls and Consciences of all men Hence it pleaseth God to give Rules for the trial and discerning between the true Spirit and the false 1 Iob. 3. 4. chapters On the contrary I would have shewed which indeed all men know that the thief endured not searching the galld Horse endures not rubbing the guilty Debtor endures not Reckoning the false and jugling Spirits escape in a Mist and by the help of dark Lanthorns and under the covert of the night who may not see this in G. Fox all along his Book running into the Thickets and Burroughs of Words of divers significations Scriptures notoriously wrested general and sometimes uncouth and barbarous Language which hath been the trade of the false and lying Murtherous Spirit in all ages and will be until that short time be finished wherein the Lord will tread him under the Saints feet and cast him into the Lake that burns with fire and brimstone How oft have I been visited by the Quakers crying Repent Repent hearken to the Light within thee c. And I never could perswade them to sit down and examine their sayings by the Holy Scriptures but when their Cuckoes note and song was over and their Fools Bolt shot then fell they to Cursing and pouring out the Thunder-bolts of Gods Iudgement and so be gone no less then Reve and Muggleton pretending to be Gods two last Prophets and Witnesses about twenty years since in London whose Cursings were notorious But to return while I was beginning to urge the tryal of the Spirits W. Edmundson said the Spirit of God was above the Scriptures and not to be tryed by them for it gave out the Scriptures c. And I said and say it is easie to boast of the Spirit but the true Spirit in a Sense and the holy Scriptures are one as the Father and Son are one and therefore can not but be willing to be examined by the holy Records as every man or author will stand to his own scripture work or writing for the Writers were but Pens of Heaven writing and used by the hand of the holy Spirit And I remember that I said to W. Edmundson Friend You yesterday in your long Sermon alleadged that holy Scripture viz Men will not come to the light least they should be reproved 88 because their deeds are evil This is the true cause of your quarrel against the Scriptures and of exalting the Spirit above them that is upon a true ballance your own Spirit yea the Spirit of Sathan to be God and Christ and Spirit and all After some few interchanges and altercations we descended to the fourth Position which they read out of the Paper as they did all the rest which was this viz. That the People called Quakers did not own the Holy Scriptures In one Copy it was written Really own viz. They did not really own the Holy Scriptures I said there was a twofold owning the Holy Scriptures or the Writings of God as there is a twofold owning the Scriptures or Writings of men the Proclamations and Declarations of Kings and Princes The one is verbal and literal viz. that such a writing or Declaration or Treatise is extant and that it proceeds from the Kings Authority and Command The second is real and actual when the Authority of it is in all humble obedience submitted to and obeyed when the Justice and Equity and the excellency and goodness as well as the royal Authority is embraced and magnified I said the Iews owned verbally and wonderfully that Writings of the Old Testament and the Papists owned both old and new but it is known that in many particulars they do in effect deny and damn them 1. They both set up their rotten Traditions their unwritten Verityes as they speak of equal authority with if not in cases above the holy Scripture 2. They set up the Papists by the authority of the Council of Trent a most defective Translation notoriously false in many places all over above the first Copyes of the Hebrew and Greek whence all Translations as Counterpanes and secondary Copyes or Duplicates ought to flow 3. The Papists set up the Pope as the only infallible Judg Interpreter in all Questions about the Scriptures and the Jews make their Rabbies as so many Popes also 4. Their Interpretations are so forraign and strange and many of them so absurd monstrous from the genuine proper Sence of the Scriptures and adulterated with Wresting and allegorizings c. that is truly said of them that they bring not their Doctrines Disciplines and Conversations to the Scriptures but force the 89 holy Scriptures of God to attend and wait upon their Abomination as a Negro Slave and Lacquey I said the Jews and Papists did not more disowne the holy Scriptures upon the account of their Popes and Traditions and Interpretations than the Quakers did upon the account of their Light and Spirit and Interpretations also Who knows not that in the beginning of their Profession they generally fell from the reading of them by themselves or in their Families or in their Publick Assemblyes only crying up the Light within the Spirit within

this side the Grave I utterly deny G. Fox Answereth Where Glory is in the least degree it is in perfection and who have not Glory and doth ●ot attain to Glory on this side the Grave they are in a sad condition for the Saints rejoyce with joy unspeakable and full of Glory c. I Reply as the Swinish Epicures and Dives's of this World what ever they formally and loosely profess have no solid hope of peace and joy to come after this life and therefore like B●uit Beasts practically confess it saying in their hearts and Life 154 let us eat and drink for to morrow we shall dye so do this cynical and doggid kind of Philosophers the Quakers profess plainly though some would cover it no hopes of a rising of the Body but what they have here no hopes of a Heaven but what they have here no hell but what they in their minds have past through no Judgement but what as Saints they are now executing I know that some of the Quakers will not believe that G. Fox and others of them deny the Resurrection c. but if they will not willingly fish let them read and consider these my Quotations from G. Fox Ed. Burrowes and Iohn Stubs their Book in Folio and let them also know that whatever they profess against this that I have said that is but horrible Hypocrisie and Deceit for they would not in all our Disputations depart one hair from those horrible and monstrous Blasphemies and bruitish Reasonings in G. Fox and Edward Burrowes We came to the ninth Proposal the second in order to be debated at Providence viz all that the Quakers Religion requires externally and internally to make Converts or Proselytes amounts to no more then what a Reprobate may easily attain to and perform I did not the Father of Spirits is my holy witness sling this in as a Firebrand of Reprobation against either Teachers or Followers called Quakers it is true they do so against all that ever were not or are not or shall not be in their Opinion but my hope is that many amongst these misled and wandring Souls may come to Abrahams Bosome c. yet this I assert that thousands and ten thousands may be of their Religion and may have gotten all that their Religion requires or performs yea all that their Principles call for outwardly or inwardly and yet not be accepted but rejected from the holy and gracious presence of God I told them that I had this notion from a man famous in his day Mr. W. Perkins who having been a deboist young man in Cambridge after the call of God to him he proved famous in Preaching and Writing and with a lame Club hand he wrote admirably against the Papists and maintained that all Popery preacht to the making of Converts or Proselytes amounted to no more then what Reprobates may easily attain unto I say the same of common Protestants and of the Quakers they may have a great measure of sorrow for sin great resolu 155 tions great Reformations great Rejoycings great and wonderful performances endure great persecutions endure burning of the Body in the Flames and yet be far from the true Protestant Religion either in the true Doctrine and Principles or in the true life and practice of it For the Foundation both of the Papists and Quakers Faith is laid upon the Sand of Rotten Nature which they both only adorn and trim as the dead Carcasses and Coffins with Roses and Lillies and other Flowers and Garlands their own penances satisfactions Alms Prayers Fastings Suffrings which are but Womens filthy Clouts and Dung of Men and Beasts put into the ballance of Gods infinite Justice instead of the infinite Righteousness and Satisfaction of the Son of God poor Souls they know not that the whole Creation visible and invisible seen and unseen known and unknown cannot reach Gods most holy and inconceivable justice for the least evil word or thought Neither of these nor millions of Protestants much less millions of millions in one evil word or thought then in all the sorrows and calamities felt in this life or justly feared in the li●e a coming With the Quakers 't is known that if a notorious Drunkard c be convinced and come to hearken to a Spirit within him to say Thou and Thee and think himself equal and above all his former Superiours c. he is Justified he is Sanctified and so Holy that he cannot sin in Thoughts Words and from this high Mount looks down on all others especially if opposite as Pharisees Publicans Cains c. Thus they pretend Repentance Faith and a change of heart because they have changed their talk their Garments c. But 1. I told them that true Repentance lay in a discovery of sin as sin as greater than the greatest filthiness in the world no poverty no shame no loss like unto it c. 2 In an utter inability to contribute one mite either from self or from the whole Creation toward satisfaction to infinite Majesty and Justice for the least evil thought or imagination 3. That as blessed Iohn Bradford said to God Lord thou art Heaven I am Hell viz. that in the best natural Soul in the World there is nothing but a Kennil an Hogstie a den of Atheisme Murther Theft Fornication Adultery and all kinde of Wickedness 156 4. That I have not so much in me as to desire Deliverance nor to be sensible of any need of it 5. That it is only mercy and rich free Grace that worketh in me or any Soul a Sence of my Condition a Sence of Justice a Sence of Mercy 6. That it is Mercy only worketh a willingness a new desire new Affections towards my Maker towards my Ransomer who paid his Bloud his Heart-Bloud the Bloud of God to ransome and redeem me 7. That in this work Mercy not only worketh a Sence a thirst after Pardon and Peace with my Maker but also after a Conformity and Likeness unto God 8. Because I cannot reach this the Mercy and Pitty of God worketh in my Soul a longing after God and after the turning of the whole Soul unto God and after those seven Evidences of true Repentance 2. Cor. 7. 9. This is in true Christian Repentance and turning of the whole Soul unto God viz. to receive every thought every motion every desire upon the account of Mercy and Pitty as ever poor Dog received Crum or Bone under the Table Much of this I spake publickly as also that no Papist nor Quaker by their grounds could get up this Iacobs Ladder much less upon those higher grounds and steps of casting off Self of doing all purely for God and in Gods eye of meekness and Mercy to other poor drowning Soules of pure Love to God for Himself for his Holiness Mercy Goodness yea for his Iustice of quiet and patient and thankfull resting in his holy Pleasure whatever he

that the Protestants may do the Papists work and save labour and Charges and so the Pope and his bloudy Whore of Rome may march away securely by the Light of the Protestants fires So deals the Devil the old Serpent with Christ Jesus and the holy Scripture or Records which are but One in a Sense as the Sun and the Sun-dial His end is to tear down the Sun dial the Scriptures under pretence that the Sun is within them and they need no Dials and Clocks no visible thing that are temporal c. and so to destroy the person and Commands of the Lord Jesus as visible and sleshly pretending all to be Light and Spirit 2. The words in the Hebrew Aamar and Dabar as also the Greek Logos and Rema signifie a word and divers other matters as I told my Antagonists in the dispute 1. In both these Languages and divers other Languages it signifies the will and pleasure of the Mind given forth by Command or Decres or Proclamation made by word or writing from Kings and States and Commanders of Armies Navies c. 2. In a Metaphor or Figure it is attributed to God though he have no word properly having no mouth no Tongue no Braine c. but as Nurses he deals with us poor Infants and sucklings c. 3. It is another Metaphor or Figure to say God is the word for God is no more a word then he is a Man or a Spirit or a Sun or Shield or a House or a Fountain or a Shepard litterally c. For as a word or Expression proceeds from the mind thoughts within so are the Thoughts and mind of God declared many wayes but chiefly by that man Christ Jesus called the Word 3. The Inconceivable Godhead being pleased to vouch-safe in Infinite Goodness some back parts and glimpses of his Infinite glori 81 rious Majesty in the Framing of this world and in the restoring of this world by making a Marriage between his Son and mankind all his words and Expressions tend mightily to advance this marriage and great manifestation or Word of God 4. I was once asked by a poor Foxian whether God had any more words but one I Answered and do now that God hath a great many words or Expressions of his mind and Counsels unto Men and Angels and so G. Fox and all the Foxians Confess the Scriptures to be the Words of God and therein Confess that all and every word of Scripture is a word of God The Truth is when God gives forth a word or Command by Angels by Men and by other of his Armies wherein his Infinite Power and Providence daily appeareth his word runneth very swiftly as we see when the word is given in a Kingdome Navy or Army as in Ahashueros his one hundred and twenty seven Provinces c. He sends out his word that is his mind or pleasure and melteth them Psal. 147. 5. So that I Affirm that the two great Lights of Heaven the Sun and Moon and all the lesser Lights the Stars are Words and Preachings and preachers of God to us Every wind and Cloud and drop of Rain and Hail every Flake of Snow every Leaf every Grass every drop of water in the Ocean and Rivers yea every Grain of Corn and Sand on the Shore is a Voice or word and witness of God unto us 6. Hence as in that Admirable 107 Psalm c. Every Turn of the holy hand of God in Ruling and Over-ruling all things in the world upon the two great Hinges of Mercy and Iudgement Psal 110. are but so many Voices or words of God God speaks once and twice Job 33. but man hears it not in Visions in Dreams in Health and Sickness in Ease and pain in wants in plenty in dangers and Deliverances Crosses Losses c. 7. That the Hebrew is most full viz. that God spake by his Prophets or Preachers or declarers of his will divers wayes and divers times but now he hath spoken by his Son From the beginning of the world Luke 1. he hath spoken of the coming of this Son by the mouths of all his Prophets even from the beginning of the World Therefore though God have many Sons yet Christ Jesus that man Christ Jesus among the many millions of 82 Sons is stiled the only Begotten Son of God the Head of all the Elect purchased to God out of every Nation by his Blood c. so by the same excellency and eminency above all the manifestations and appearances of God to the World no word or appearances of God is comparable to that appearance of God in Christ Jesus and therefore called the Word of God as the greatest appearance of the eternal Power and Godhead 8. Hence it follows that these poor Foxians are so much the more shameless and monstrous not only in robbing the Scriptures of their most Heavenly and common Title of the Word of God common to all Gods appearances but also in turning this Word of God Christ Jesus into a Spirit without any body but what is gone for ever from us and by their parting him his God-head from his Man-hood into a Fancie a Dream a meer Whimsie and Devellish Imagination 9 When we deal with Indians about Religion our work is to prove unto them by Reason that the Bible is Gods Word for by Nature they are much affected with a kind of Deity to be in Writing That all their Revelations and Visions and Dreams in which the Devil wonderfully abuseth them are False and Cheating That this Scripture or Writing we pretend to is from God by their own experience because it agrees with their own Consciences reproving them for those sins their Souls say they are guilty of That the terrible Majesty of Gods Justice in punishing Sinners so shines in it and also his infinite goodness and mercy in finding out such a way of Mediation and such a Mediator that their Souls cannot but adore Infinite Justice and Mercy in it That the Holy power of God so appears in it in working upon the Souls of Millions turning them from Dogs and Swine and Wolves and Lions and Sheep and Lambs and Doves c. in Love Meekness Patience c. That it could be none but an Omnipotent Arm that hath preserved the Holy Scripture so many thousand years some part of it through so many wonderful changes through so many Bloody Huntings of Kings Emperours Popes and this more subtile Hunting of these Foxians to run it out of this World and by seeming to embrace it to destroy and kill it 83 The 41. Instance is in Page 228. Where G. Fox brings in Thomas Weld saying There lies a Mystery of Iniquity for to say the World calls them so by such and such Names or gives them their Christian Name He Answers There are Names given by the Heathen the Heathen outward which men are called There is a new Name which the