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A01268 A boke made by Iohn Frith prisoner in the tower of London answeringe vnto M mores lettur which he wrote agenst the first litle treatyse that Iohn̄ Frith made concerninge the sacramente of the body and bloude of, christ vnto which boke are added in the ende the articles of his examinacion before the bishoppes ... for which Iohn Frith was condempned a[n]d after bur[n]et ... the fourth daye of Iuli. Anno. 1533.; Boke answeringe unto M Mores lettur Frith, John, 1503-1533. 1533 (1533) STC 11381; ESTC S105657 100,080 176

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followe one opera●ion And where as is like reason there mus●e followe like misterie But what so euer is signified bi the water as cōcerninge the fay●hfull people is takē spūall● Therfore what so ●uer is spokē of the bloud● ī the wine muste also ned●s betakin spūallie This reason is not mine but yt is made bi one bartrā vppō a .700 yeres sins whē this matt was furs●e ī disputacō Where vppon at the instance of great Char●es the Emperour● he made a boke ꝓfessynge euyn the same thinge that I doo and ꝓueth by the olde doctours and faythfull fathers that the sacramēt is Christes bodye in a misterie that ys ●o saye a signe figure or memoriall of his bodye whiche was brokē for vs and not his naturall bodye And therfore that doctrine ys newe w c otherwise teacheth and not myne w c ys not myne but the doctrine of Christe and of the olde fathers of Christes churche tyll Antichriste began to sytt and reigne in the temple of God Besydes that Cypriane sayth that the people ys annexed in the sacramēt thorough the mi●ture of water Therfor I meruell me moche that they are so cōtentious and will not see that as the water ys the people so the wyne ys christes bloude that ys to saye in a misterye because yt representeth christes bloude as the water doth the people Furthermore Eusebius sayth● Dū in sacramētis uino aqua miscetur christo fidelis populus incorporatur iungitur quadā ei copula perfecta charitatis unitur That ys to saye why●es in the sacrament water ys admixte w t the wyne the faithfull people ys incorporate Ioyned w t Christe ād ys made one w t hym w t a cert●yne knott of ꝑfayte charite Now where he sayeth that we are Ioyned and in corporate w t Christe what fondenes were yt to cōtende syth we are there onlye in a misterye and not naturallye to contend I saye w t suche pertinacite that his naturall bodye muste be there and not rather that he ys Ioyned with vs as we are Ioyned with hym and both in a misterie bi the knott of parfay●e charyte The yonge man perceyuith well ynough that an allegorie vsed in some place is not a cause sufficient to leue the proper significations of godes worde in euery other place and seke an allegorye and forsake the playne comen sense For he confesseth that he wolde not so do saue for necessite because as he sayeth that the cōmen lyterall sense is impossible For the thinge he sayth that is mēte therbye can not be true That is to wite that the verye bodie of christe can be in the sacrament because the sacramēt ys in many diuerse places at onece and was at the maundye that ys to wite in the handes of Christe ād euerye of his appostellis mouthes And at that tyme yt was not glorified And then he saieth that Christes bodye not beinge glorified coulde no more be in to places at once than his awne can And yet he goth after furder and sayeth no more yt can whan yt is glorified to And that he ꝓueth by the sayinge of S. Austen whose wordes be that the bodye with which Christ arose muste be in one place c. Hertherto hath maister More resoned reasonablie but now he beginnith to decline from the dignite of diuinite in to the dirtye dregges of vayne sophistrie For where I saye that I muste of necessite seke an allegorie because the literall sense is impossible and can not be true meaning that yt can not stōde w t the processe of scripture but that other textes do of necessi●e constraine me to construe yt spirituallye There ca●chet he this worde can and this worde impossible and wolde make men beleue that I ment yt could not be true because reason can not reache yt but thinketh yt impossib●e And there he triumpheth be●ore the victorie wold● know what article of our faith I could ass●gne in w c reason shall not dreue awaie the strēgthe of mi pruffe ● a●d make me leue the literall sense wherin my proffe shuld s●ōd sende me to seke an allegorie that might stond w t reason and driue away● the faith But now deare brethern siht I speake not of the impossibilite of reason but of the impossibilite to stōde w t other textes of scripture ye maye see that this ryall reason is not worth a rishe Then wolde he faine knowe the place were s. Aus●ē so saieth w c thīge allthought ●t were harde for m● to tell sith I haue not his bokes to loke for yt ● yet I thāk● god my memorie is not so bad but I can shewe him wh●re he shall fi●de yt And because I thinke that he is more accustomed to the popes lawes then ●o S. Aus●ens workes ● sith he is become the p̄lates proctoure and patrone I saye he shall not fayle but finde yt in hys lawes de cōsecratione And where as he wolde wreste the wordes of s. Austen which saith that the bodie in w c Christe arose muste nedes be in one place sayinge that he might meane not that his bodie might not le ī●iuerse places at onces but that yt muste be in one place that is to saie in some one place or other he speaketh sayth master more nothinge of the sacramēt nor saieth not his bodie w t w c he rosse muste nedes be in one place that yt can by no possibilite be in any mo This seameth to some a good lie glose ād yet yt shall ꝓue but a vayne euasiō For yf a man wold saye that the kinges graces bodye muste be in one place and then a nother wolde expoūde that natwtstōdynge his wordes hys graces bodye myght be in two places at once I thinke m●n myght sone Iudge that he delicted to delaye and myght saye what nede he to determye that he muste be ī one pla●e except he thought in dede that he myght be in no mo but onlye on● And though men myght so argue on other mens wordes yet of sainct Austēs wordes this muste nedes follow for he bryngyth them in as god wold by a contrarie antithesis sayinge Corpus in quo r●surrexit in uno loco esse oportet ueritas autem eius ubique diffusa est That ys to saye hys bodye wherin he rose muste be in one place but hys truth ys disper●ed in all places Where he playnlye concludeth by the contrarye antithesis that as hys truth ys disp●rsed in all places so muste hys bodye nedes be in one place onlye As by example yf a man shulde saye The kynge hys graces bodye muste n●des be in one place but hys power ys thorough out hys Realme Where no man doubteth but that in saying one place he meaneth one place onlye And therfore though in some place that worde muste doth not signifie suche a necessite as excludeth all possibilite yet ī this place yt doth so signifie as the contrarye antithesis doth euidently
A boke made by Iohn Frith prisoner in the tower of London answeringe vnto M mores lettur which he wrote agenst the first litle treatyse that Iohn̄ Frith made concerninge the sacramente of the body and bloude of christ vnto which boke are added in the ende the articles of his examinacion before the bishoppes of London winchestur and lincolne in Paules church at London for which Iohn Frith was condempned ād after burēt in smith felde with out newgate the fourth daye of Iuli Anno. 1533. ¶ Mortui resurgent ¶ The preface of this boke● GRace and encrea●e of knowelege from God the fader thorow oure lord Iesus criste be with the christen reader and with all that love the lorde vnfaynedly Amen I chaūced b●ing in these parties to be in cōpanie with A christen broder wiche for hys commendable cōuersation And sobre behavour myght better be a bishop thē many that weare myters yf the reule of s. Paule were regarded in ther election Thys broder after moche communication desyrid to knowe my mynde as touchynge the sacrrament of the body and blode of oure savioure Christ. Whiche thynge I opened vnto hym accordynge to the gist that god had gevyn me Firste I proved vnto hym that yt was non article of oure fayth necessarie to be beleved vnder payne of dānaciō Thē I declared that christ had a naturall bodie evyn as myne ys savyng synne and that yt cowde no more be in two places at once then myne can Thyrdly I shewyd hym that it was not necessarie that the wordes shulde so be vnderstonde as they sounde But that yt myght be a phrase of scripture as ther ar innumerable After that I shewyd hym certen suche phrases and ma●er of speakyng And that yt was well vsed in oure englishe tong ād finally I recyted after what mauer they myght receyve yt accordynge to christes institutyon not fearyng the froward alteracyon that the prestes vse contrarie to the firste forme and institution When I had sufficiently published my mynde he desired me to entitie the s●me of my wordes ād write them for hym be cause they semed ouer●onge to be well r●teigned in memorie And a●beit I was loth to take the mater in hande yet to fullfyll hys instant intercession I toke vppon me to touche this terrible tragedie and wrote a treatise whyche be side my paynfull impresonmēt ys lyke to purchase me moste cruell deth which I am redie and glade to receyve w t the sprite and inward man allthough the fleshe be frayle when so ever yt shall please god to lay yt vppon me Notwiths●ondinge to say the truthe I wrote yt not to the intent that yt shuld haue byn published For thē I wolde haue touche● the mater more ernestly and haue writyn as well of the spirituall eatynge and drynkynge whiche ys of necessite as I d●de of the carnall whiche ys not so necessarie for the treatise that I made was ●ot expedient for all men albeit yt weare sufficie●t for them whom I toke in hande to ens●ructe For they knewe the spirituall and necessarie eatynge and dryn●ynge of his bodie and bloode which ys not receyvyd with the teth and belye but with the ●ares and fayth and only ne●ed instruc●yon in the ou●ward eatynge whiche thynge I therfore only declared But now yt ys commen a brode and in many mens mowthes in so moche that master more w c of late hathe busted hym sellfe to medle in all soche materes of what zele I wyll not defyne hath sore labored to cōfute yt but some men thinke that he ys ashamed of his ꝑte and for that cause doth so diligently suppresse the worke w c he prynted For I my sellfe saw the worke in prent in my lorde of wynchesters howse vppon S. Stephyns day last paste But nether I nether all the fryndes I cow● make mighte attayne any copie but only one wrytyn copie which as yt semed was drawyn oute in great haste natwithstondinge I can not well Iudge what the cause shulde be that hys boke ys kept so secrette But this I am right sure of that he neuer touched the foūdaciō that my treatise was buylded vppon And therfore syth my foundacion stondith so sure and invincible for els I thynke verely he wolde sore have labored to haue vndermined yt I wyl ther vppon buylde a lytle more and allso declare that his ordinance ys to slender to breake yt downe all though yt were sett vppon a wors foundacyon ¶ The fondacion of that lytle treatise was that yt ys non article of our fayth necessarye to be belevyd vnder payne of dampnacion that the sacrament shuld be the naturall bodie of christe which thynge ys proved on this maner FIrste we muste all aknowelege that yt ys non article af our fayth which can save vs nor which we are bounde to beleve vnder the payne of eternall damnacion For yf I shulde beleve that hys verey naturall bodye bothe fleshe and bloode were naturaly in the brede wyne that shulde not save me seinge many beleve that and receyve yt to ther dampnacyon for yt ys not hys prsense in the brede that ●an save me but hys presence in my herte thorough fayth in hys blode w c hathe washed oute my synnes and pacyfied the faders wrathe toward me And agayne yf I do not beleve his bodely presence in the brede wine that shall not dampne me but the absence out of my harte thorough vnbeleffe Now yf they wolde here obiecte that though yt be truth that the absence oute of the brede coulde not dampne vs yet are we bounde to bel●ve yt be cause of goddes worde whiche who belevyth not as moche as in hym lyeth makythe god al lyer And therfore of an̄ obstinat mynde not to beleve hys worde may be an occasiō of dāpnaciō To thys we may answer that we beleve goddes worde and knowelege that yt ys trewe but in this we dissent whether yt be trewe in the sense that we take yt in or in the sence that ye take yt in And we say agayne that thought ye haue as yt apereth vnto yow the evidēt wordes of christe ād therfore cōsiste in the barke of the letter yet are we cōpelled by conferringe of the scryptures to gether within the letter to serche oute the minde of our sauiour w c spake the wordes And we saye therdly that we do it not of an obstinate mīde For he that defendeth a cause obstinatly whether yt be true or false ys euer to be rep̄hended But we do yt to sati●fie our cōsciences whiche are cōpelled by other placys of scripture reasons and doctours so to Iudge of yt And evyn so ought yow to Iudge of youre partie and to defende youre sentense not of obstinatie but by the reason of scriptures which cause yow so to take yt ād so ought nether partie to dispyse other for eche sekyth the glorie of god and the trew vnderstondynge of the scripture This was the
that thing wher in they were offended By this wearke you shall espye their blasphemies the venemous tonges wher w t they s●launder not onlye them that publyshe the truthe but euyn the truth yt seelfe They shame not to saye that we affyrme yt to be onlye bred and nothinge els And we saye not so but we saye that besyde the substance of bred yt is the sacrament of Christes bodye and bloud As the yuye hangyng before the tauerne doore ys more then bare yuye For beside the substance of yuye yt ys a signe and signifyeth that there is wyne to be sould And this sacrament signifyeth vnto vs and poynteth oute before oure eyes that as verely as that bred is broken so verely was christes bodye broken for our synnes And as that bred is distributed vnto vs so is hys bodie and fructe of hys passyon distributed vnto all hys faythfull And as the bred comforteth the bodie so doth the fayth in Christes deth cōforte oure soules And as surelye as we haue that bred and eate yt wyth oure mouth and teth and knowe by our senses that we haue yt w t in vs and are partakers therof no more nede we to doubte of hys bodye and bloud but that thorough fayth we are as sure of thē as we are sure of that bred As yt is sufficientlye declared in my boke Agayne you maye perceyue how wyckydlye they report on vs w c affyrme that we dishonoure yt w c geue yt the right honoure that yt ought to haue And you do playnlye dishonoure yt w c geue vnto yt the honoure that is onlye dew vnto god We geue yt the same honoure that we geue vnto the holye scripture worde of god because yt expresseth vnto our senses the deth of our sauyoure and doth more dypelye prent yt w t in vs. And therfore we calle yt an holye sacrament as we calle goddes worde holye scripture And we receyue this sacrament w t great reuerence euyn as we reuerrentlye reade or heare preached the holye worde of God w c conteyneth the helth of our soules And we graunt that hys bodye ys present with the bred as yt ys w t th● word and with both yt ys verelye receyued and eaten thorough fayth But yf we shuld knele downe and praye vnto the holye scrypture men might count vs soles and might lawfullye saye that we do not honoure the s●ripture by that meanes but rather dishonoure yt For the right honoure of a thinge ys to vse yt ●or that entent that yt was institute of god And he ●hat abuseth yt to any other purpose doth in dede dishonoure yt And lykewise yt is in the sac●amēt w c was institute to kepe in memorye ●he d●th of christ wc●f we do any other wise honoure then we do the holye scripture vnto the w c we maye in no wise make our prayers I saye that then we shulde v●ter●ie dishonoure yt Auoyde therfore this poynt of Idolatrye and all ys saffe Finallye we saye that they speak● well and faythfullye w c saye that they goo ●o the bodie receue the bodye of Christ and that they speake vilynously wickedlye w c saye that t●ey onlye receyue bred or the signe of his bodye for in so sayinge they declare theyr inside ly●e For the faythfull wyll reakyn that he is euyll reported of and reputed ●or a traytoure and a nother Iudas yf me● shuld saye of hym that he did onlye receyue the sacramēt and not also the thynge which the sacramēt doth signifye For albe it he onlie eate●h the bred sacramēt w t his mouth and teth yet w t his harte and fayth i●wardlye he eatethe the very thinge yt sellfe w t the sacrament owtwardlye dothe represent And of this springe the maner of speakinges that the old fathers do somtyme vse w c at the ●irst sight mought seame cōtrarie to our sentense But yf they be will pōdered yt ma●e sone be sen● ●ow they shuld be taken For many tymes when they speake of the sacrament outward eatyng they applye vnto the sacrament owtward eatinge the frute and cōditions of the inwarde eatinge and thinge yt s●llfe ● because that in a ●aythfull man they are so Ioyn●t●ye Ioyned that the one is neuer w t oute the other As by ●xāple Marye is named the mother of god and yet she is not the mother of hys godhed by the w c parte onlye he is called god but because she is hys mother as touchinge his manhode and the godhed is so annexed w t the mā●ed that they both make but one person therfore ys she called the mother of god w c in dede yf y● b● wyselye weyed sha●be founde to be ●bused speache And yet neuerthelesse yt may very will be vsyd yf men vnderstond what ys ment therbye but yf thorough the vse of thys speache men shuld fal● in to suche an erroure that wold affyrme oure ladye to be in dede the mother of hys godhed then necessyte shuld compell vs to make a dystynctyon betw●ne the nature of hys godhed and the nature of hys manhod and so to expound the mater vnto them and bringe them home agayne in to the ryght vnderstondynge As we are now cons●rayned to do in thys sacrament because you mis●construe the sayinges of the scrypture and Doctoures Whych notwyths●ondyng yf a man vnder●●ond them saye verye well And many suche maner of speaches are conta●ned in the scripture As where christ sa●eth Ioan 3. there shall no man ascend in to heuin but he that discēdeth frō heuē the sone of mā w c ys in heuin Thys text doth saye tha● the sonne of mā was thē in heuē whē he ●pake thes word●s vnto n●codemus here o● yer●h w c thinge all wise mē cōsent to be vnderstond propter unitatem personae That is to saye for the vnite of the person For albe it his godhed was in euerie place at that tyme yet was not his māhod by the w c he was called the sonne of man in heuin at that tyme. And yet christ sayd that yt was in heuen for the vnite of his ꝑson For his godhed was in heuen ād because the godhed ād manhode made one ꝑson therfore yt was ascrybed vnto the manhod w t was on●ye vere●ied vppon the godhed as saint Au●ten ad Dardanum doth delygentlye declare And lyke wise in the sacramēt o● baptime because the inward workinge of the holye gos● is euer ānexed in the faythfull vnto the outward ceremonye therfore somtyme the frute of the inward baptyme ys ascrybed onto the outward warke And so the scripture vseth to speake of the outward bapt●me as though yt were the inward that is to saye the spryt of god And therfore s. Paule sayeth that we are buried w t christe thorough baptime And yet as s. Austene expoundeth yt the outeward baptime dothe but signifie this buriall And agayne paule sayeth as manye as are baptised haue put christ vppō thē And yet in
they mu●te nedes haue a signe token sacrament or comen badge by the w c they may knowe eche other And ther ys no defference betwene a signe or a badge and a sacramēt but that the sacrament sygnifyeth an̄ holy thinge and a signe or a badge dothe signy●ie a wordly thinge as s. Austē●ayeth signes whē they are referred to holy thīges are called sacramētes The secōde cause of their institucyon ys that they may be a meane to brynge vs vnto hys fayth and to enprent yt the deꝑ in vs for yt doth costomably the more move a man to beleve whē he ꝑceyvyth the thynge expressed to diuerse senses at once as by exāple yf I promise a man to mete hym at a day apoynted he wyll somwhat truste my worde Notwtstondynge he trustyth not so moche vnto yt as yf I did both promise hym with my worde allso clape handes w t hym or holde vp my fynger for he counteth that this promiseys strong more faythefull then ys the bare worde because yt moveth mo senses For the worde doth but only certifie the thynge vnto a man by the sense of herynge but whē w t my promise immediatly after I holde vp my fynger then do I not only certifye hym by the sense of hearynge But allso b● hys sight he perceyvyth that that facte confyrmeth my worde And in the clapynge of handes he perceyvyth both by hys sight and fealyng be side the word that I wyll fullfyll my promise And lykewise yt ys in this sacramente Christ promised them that he wolde geve hys bodye to be slayne for their synnes And for to establishe the faythe of this promise in them he did institute the sacramēt w c he called hys bodye to th entent that the very name yt selfe might put them in rem●mbrāce what was ment by yt he brake the brode before them signifying vnto thē outwardly evyn the same thynge that he by his wordes hade before ꝓtested evyn as his wordes hade enformed thē by their hearynge that he entended so to do so the brekynge of that brede enformed their ye sight that he wolde fullfyll hys promise Then he dide distribute yt amonge thē to enprynt the mater more depely in them signifinig therbye that evyn as that brede was devidid amonge them so should hys bodie and frute of his passyon be distributed vnto as manye as beleved his wordes Finaly he caused them ●o eate yt that nothynge shoulde be lackynge to cōfyrme that necessarye poynt of faythe in thē signifyinge therbye that as verely as they fellte that brede wtin them so sure should they be of hys bodye thorough fayth And that evyn as that brede doth norishe t●e bodye so dothe the fayth in hys bodye breakynge norishe the soule vnto ever lastynge lyffe This did our mercyfull saviour w c knowyth our fraylte weakenes to establishe ād strenghth their fa●th in hys bodye breakynge blode shedynge w c ys our shoteanker and laste refuge w t oute w c we shoulde all perishe The th●rd cause the inst●tucyon profit that comythe of yt ys this They that haue receyved thes blessyd tidynges and worde of helth do love to publishe this felicite vnto other men And to geve thākys before the face of the congregacyō vnto their bountteons benefactour and as moche as in them ys to drawe all people to the praisinge of God with them which thinge though yt be partly dō by the prechynge of goddes worde fructefull exhortacyons yet dothe that visible token sacramente yf a man vnderstond what ys ment therbye more effectuously worke in them both fayth and thankisgeuynge then doth the bare worde but yf a man wot not what yt meaneth and seketh helthe in the sacrament and outeward signe then may he well be lykened vnto a fonde fellow which when he ys very drye and an honest man shewe hym an alepole tell hym that ther ys good ale ynough wolde goo and sucke the ale pole trustynge to get drynke oute of yt and so to quenche hys thurste Now a wise man wyll tell hym that he playeth the fole for the ale pole doth but signifie that ther ys good ale in the howse where the alepole stondyth and wyll tell hym that he must goo nere the howse and there he shall fynde the drynke not stond suckynge the alepole in vayne For yt shall not ease hym but rather make hym more drie for the ale pole doth signifie good ale yet the ale pole yt sellfe ys no good ale nother ys there ony good ale in the alepole And lykewise yt ys in all sacramentes For yf we vnders●ond not what they meane and seke helth in the outeward signe then we sucke the alepole labour in vayne But yf we do vnderstond the meanynge of them than shall we seke what they signifye and go to the signyficacions ther shall we fynde vndoubted helth As to oure purpose in thys sacrament wherof we speake we muste note what yt signyfyeth and ther shall we fynde oure redempcyon It signifyeth that Christys bodye was broken vppon the crosse to redeme vs from the thrauldom of the deuell and that hys blode was shed for vs to washe oure synnes Therfore we m●ste rūne thider yf we wyll be eased For yf we thynke to haue our synnes forgeuyn for eatynge of the sacrament or for seinge the sacrament onece a day or for prayinge vnto yt then suerly we sucke the alepole And of thys yow may perceyue what profyt comyth of thes sacramentes the which ether haue no signyficacyons put vnto them or els when ther sygnifycacions ar loste and forgotten For then no doubt they are not commended of God but are rather abhomynable for whan we knowe not what they meane then seke we helth in the outward dede and so are iniuryous vnto Christe and hys blode As by example the sacrifices of the Iewys were well alowed accepted of God as longe as they vsed them aryght and vnderstode by them the deth of Chryste the shedynge of hys bloude that holy oblacyon offered on the crosse once for euer But when they begon to forgett thys significacion ād sought there helthe rightwisnes in the bodely worke in the sacrifice ytsellfe thē were they abhominable in the sight of God and then he cryed oute of thē bothe by the ꝓphet Dauid and Isaye And likewise yt ys w t our sacramētes let vs therfore seke vp the significaciōs and goo to the very thinge w c the sacrament ys set to pres●nt vnto vs. And ther shall we synde such● frutefull foode as shall never fayle vs but com●ort our soules in to lyff euerlastynge Now wyll I in order answer to master mo●es boke and as I fynde occasion gevyn me I sha●l indevoure my sellfe to supply that thynge w c lacked in the fyrste treatise I trust I shall sh●we suche lyght that all men whose eyes the prence of thys worlde hath not blynded shall ꝑceyve the truthe of the