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A07935 The Bishop of London his legacy. Or certaine motiues of D. King, late Bishop of London, for his change of religion, and dying in the Catholike, and Roman Church VVith a conclusion to his bretheren, the LL. Bishops of England. Musket, George, 1583-1645. 1623 (1623) STC 18305; ESTC S102862 100,153 188

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