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A04780 A suruey of the new religion detecting manie grosse absurdities which it implieth. Set forth by Matthevv Kellison doctor and Professour of Diuinitie. Diuided into eight bookes. Kellison, Matthew. 1603 (1603) STC 14912; ESTC S107995 369,507 806

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vvay vvhich leadeth to perditiō vnto the strayt and narrovv vvay vvhich tendeth to saluation Thou canst not deny but that men vnlearned and impotent haue done this vvhome thou canst suspect nether to haue vsed deceit nor compulsion Thou canst not deny but that many Emperours haue resisted these men and yet they haue gottē the victorie Let then this religion be neuer so repugnaunte to sence neuer so high aboue reason I beleeue it is of God I beleeue it is true else by such men and after such a māner it could neuer haue been persuaded Hugo de 8. Vi●t Yea I vvill boldly saye vvith a certain lerued man Si error est domine à te decepti sumus if this vvhich vve beleeue bee an errour thou ô lord hast deceiued vs But thou canst nether deceue nor be deceued therfore vve are assured of our religiō God therfore vvho hathe alvvayes deliuered fayth vnto vs so credibly and induced vs vnto it so svvetly by probable meanes yea by euident signes and testimonies if he hath permitted this fayth to decay or to lye hidden for many hundred yeares or if corruption and errour in religion hath for longe tyme been taken for sincere religiō then noe doubte by them by vvhom he restoreth this religion agayne and deliuereth it in the former perfection by vvhom he reformeth these errours vvhich haue gone for truthes he vvil giue vs probable credible meanes by vvhich like reasonable men vve may be induced vnto this reformation For if vve haue many hundred yeares by our for fathers beene taught that ther are seauen Sacramētes that the sacrament of the Alt●r is a sacrifice and conteyneth Christes body and blood reallie that ther is purgatorie that vve haue free vvill that good vvorkes are necessarie that our euill vvorkes are no vvorkes of God that prayer to sainctes and reuerence done to them and their images is not superstition thē noe doubt if God vvill haue vs to leaue of these old opinions and to imbrace nevv he vvill in so importaunt a matter as this is vvhich toucheth saluation and damnation vse probable and credible meanes to dissuade vs from our olde errours least that seing noe reason vvhy vve should leaue them vve persist still in thē or least that vve expose our selues to danger of imbracing nevv heresies for old religion as easilie vve may if vvithout any reason at all vve vvill forsake that fayth in vvhich vve and our great graund fathers vvere baptised For allthough fayth be a Theologicall vertue and therfore as diuines say cōsisteth not in a meane betvvixte tvvo extremes in respect of God vvho is the obiecte bicause he is prima veritas vvhome vve can not credit to soone nor to much yet in respect of vs and the meanes by vvhich vve come to knovv God his authoritie vve may exceed in beleeuing and vve may be vvanting in beleef They are deficient and to slovve in beleeuing vvho vvhen God his mynd and vvill is proposed by sufficient motiues tokens yet vvill not giue credit This vvas the fault of the Ievves vvho vvere so slovv and hard of beleef that thoughe Christe by miracles and prophecies had proued him self to be the Messias and his doctrine to be of God yet they vvould not beleeue him This also vvas the faulte of the Apostles though not in so high a degree vvhose eyes vvere so blinded vvith Christes passion that all thoughe the stone of his sepulchre Luc. 14. vvas remoued and that the angell had affirmed that he vvas risen yet they vvould not beleue it vvho therfor vvere called tardi corde ad credendum slovve of hart to beleeue .. They are rashe and to hastie in beleeuing vvho beleeue vvith out sufficient reason or testimonie Such vvere the Galathians vvho vvere to easily caryed avvaie from that vvhich vvas preached vnto them Gal. 1. Vvherfor the vvise man sayeth Eccl. 19. that he is light of harte vvhoe beleeueth to quickly And in deed if God vvould haue vs giue oure assent vvher vve se no reason nor testimony sufficient he should first do vs great iniury bicause it is the nature of our vnderstanding to be moued at least by probabilitie or credibilitie Secondly he should expose vs to daunger of errour for he that vvill beleeue vvhen no probabilitie moueth him may easily fall into an errour Vvherfor it may vvell be supposed for certayne that God vvill not haue vs to beleeue any religion thoughe it be preached in his name vnless vve haue some credibilitie or probabilitie to persuade vs ther vnto If then our reformers vvould haue vs to beleeue that in these and these pointes vvee and our forfathers haue erred and that henceforth thus and thus vve are to beleeue they must at leaste shevv vs probabilitie that vve haue beene deceiued and that they are sent to put vs into the vvaye For other vvise vve being for vvarned of false prophets and commaunded allso to hatkē vnto our pastours vve haue no reason to forsake our ancient religion and to imbrace nevv opinions nor to leaue our ancient pastours and to ronne after straungers vnless they can bring some probabilitie yea and that greater then the old fathers can bring for that vvhich they haue taught vs. Tvvoe meanes only I finde vvhich a doctour or preacher can vse to persuade his auditours The first is euident reason vvhich conuinceth the vnderstanding of the hearer or scholler And by this meanes our religion can not be proued bicause reason can not reach vnto mysteries of fayth vvhich are aboue reason And so the reformers can not conuince vs by reason that they are sent from God to reforme vs and that their doctrine is the veritie bicause they teach many things aboue reason as vvell as vve do to vvit the Trinitie Incarnation Resurrection fayth iustificatiō and such like yea as I shall proue herafter many thinges also against common sense and reason not the firste bicause they are aboue reason not the second bicause they are against reason The second meanes to persuade is the authoritie of him vvho teacheth This meanes Pithagoras is sayed to haue vsed in his schoole A●l. Gel. l. 1. ● 9 vvho commaunded his schollers to silence for the space of tvvo yeares all vvhich tyme they might only harken but not aske any questions and for that tyme they vveare called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 hearers After vvards they might aske questions of their Master but vvhen he had ansvverred they might aske noe reason but must content them selues vvith his authoritie and count it sufficient that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 he sayed so Novv authoritie is vvonne ether by vvitt and learning or by vertue or antiquitie or number or office and dignitie And the reason herof is bicause vvise and learned men are likest to see farthest into matters and so the more vvillingly vvee beleeue them vertuouse men are dearest vnto God and so vve are more easilie persuaded to thinke that God imparts his mynd vnto them most
vvill vvith any reason persuade me to bee ether Turke or Ievve I may by authoritie bee of noe religion And thus Atheisme must needs follovv diuision in religion contempt of the Romaine Church The sixte Chapter shevveth hovv their vvant of a visible head giuethe a great aduantage to Atheistes and such as mocke at all religion IN the first booke and last chapter I haue declared at large hovve necessarie a visible head is in all societies and especially in the Church of Christe and I haue also demonstrated that ther is no suche visible head in the Synagogue of the reformers vvhence I haue inferred that amongest them it is lavvfull for euerye heretike to preach vvhat doctrine hee vvill and no man shall cōtrolle him Novve I ame to deduce another conclusion to vvit that thus also the gate and gapp is opened vnto Atheistes and godlesse and irreligious persons vvhich I can do easily and vvill doe in a vvord For if a visible head bee vvanting euery man may preach and imbrace vvhat religion hee vvill as in the alleaged place I haue proued and seing that if this head bee vvanting ther is noe certaintie for any religion but only the priuate spirite and bare scripture vvhich are altogether vncertaine In the first booke ch 2.3 as before is proued it vvill follovv that a man shall haue no more reason to imbrace one religion thē another yea hee shall haue noe probable reason to induce him to any religion at all and consequentlye he may take good leaue to bee of no religion And thus he may argue in forme and figure If ther be no visible head to determine by authoritie vvhat religion is to be imbraced euery man may be of vvhat religion he vvill and no man can controlle him and so I also may vse my libertie in choosing my religion as vvel as another And seing that if the authoritie of a visible head be layed a side I haue no more reason to bee of one religion then another bicause all religions alleage the same reason vvhich is no reason to vvit bare scripture sensed by the priuate spirite and I can not possibly be of all bicause they be contrarie to one another I may by good reason refuse to bee of any religion and noe man can controlle me for it if there bee no visible head vvho can proue that hee hathe authoritie to determine of religion And so he that forsaketh the Catholique Church vvhere only this visible head is to bee found hath leaue and licence to bee of vvhat religion hee vvill yea to be of no religion at all bicause leauing that hee hathe noe more reason to bee of one religion then another bicause hee hath no other reason then bare scripture sensed by a priuate spirite vvhich is not sufficient as is proued in my first booke and third chapter yea leauing the Catholike Churche he can not haue any probable reason to induce him to any of these nevv religions as I haue proued in my first booke and fifte chapter and seing that God nether can nor vvill commande him to bee of a religion for vvhich hee seeth no reason nor motiue vvhich is sufficient to induce a reasonable man as in the same place is proued hee maye vvith reason after hee hath lefte the Catholike Churche ioyne vvith Atheistes vvhoe are of noe religion The seuenth Chapter shevveth hovv the Reformers in denial of the real praesence do ruine Christian religion and call all the other mysteries of faithe in question SAcrifice is a thing so highly pleasing and acceptable vnto God that he vvill haue none to be pertakers vvith him in such honour but reserueth it as an homage devv only to him selfe and proper to a diuine maiestie 1. Reg. 15. Yet obedience is more gratefull vnto him then all the Hecatombs and Sacrifices in the vvorld bicause by sacrifice vve consecrate vnto his seruice the liues and substaunce of brute beastes but by obedience vvee make a burnt-offering and Holocaust of our ovvne soules resigning our desires and vvilles yea our ovvn selues vvholly vnto his vvill and pleasure But vvhilest this obedience resteth in the vvill thoughe it be very meritorious yet hath it not the full complement of perfection bicause so longe as the vvill hathe reason to persuade her the lesse thankes she deserueth for obeying but vvhen this vertue reachethe to the vnderstanding and maketh reason against sence and aboue reason to yeeld to more then reason can reach vnto then hath this vertue the topp of her perfection But this perfection shee hath not of her selfe bicause of her selfe she can only submitte the vvill vnto the commaundement of the Superiour but she is fayne to borrovv so much of the Theologicall vertue called Faithe vvhose propertie is to make the verie vnderstanding to stoupe vvithout any reason to yeeld to thinges for vvhich ther is noe reason bicause they are aboue reason Many such thinges ther are in Christian faithe vvhich seeme to sense senseless to reason vnreasonable and to humaine faithe incredible and as farre as mans reason can see euen to diuine povver impossible Emongest the vvhich three are the most principall and to humain reason most incredible to vvit the Trinitie in vv ch vvee beleeue that three are one that is that three persons are one God The incarnation in vv ch vvee cōfess that tvvoe are one that is tvvoe natures in Christe the one diuine the other humaine are one and the same person the blessed sacramēt of the altare in vvhich vve acknovvledge that bread and vvine by the vertue of Christes vvorde are changed into his body and bloud and that one body is not only in one but in diuers places at one and the selfe same tyme But as these three are the hardest to conceue of all the mysteries of Christian fayth so hath our blessed Sauiour giuen vs more plaine and euident testimonies of them in his holy vvritte then of any other vvhich are more easilie to be conceued For the blessed Trinitie vvhat more pregnaunt proofes can vve desire then vve haue in sainte Matthevv Going therfore teach you all nations in the name of the father cap. vlt. and of the sonne and of the holy ghost Vvhere the ancient fathers note that three are named to signifie three distinct persones and yet Christe biddeth his Apostles to baptise in the name not names of these three to signifie that these three are one God And that the father is God euery leafe almost of Scripture dothe testifie that the sōne is God many places most manifestlye do beare vvitnes Rom. 1.9 Tit. 2.3 Iuda 2. Mat. 1● Act. ● testimonie That the holy ghost is God S. Peter averreth vvho hauing demaunded of Ananias the reason vvhy hee vvould lye vnto the holy ghost auoucheth that he lyed not to mē but to God vvherfore S. Paule sayeth that vvee are the temple of the holy ghost and seing that to God only temples are erected if vvee bee his temple
as diuersly interpret scripture as you may moralize those fables Others calle scripture a nose of vvaxe bicause it may be vvrested and vvried euery vvaye vvhich comparisons although they bee odious and litle beseeming the maiestie of scripture yet are they true if by scripture you vnderstand the bare letter of scripture vvithout an assured interpretour as the Reformers doe For the ba●e letter of scripture is so ambiguous may haue so many senses and meanings that it may be applyed to vvhat you vvill may be already hath been vsed for the proofe of the moste absurde heresies that euer vvere But vvhilest they alleage the bare letter of scripture for cōfirmation of their doctrine vvel may they so delude the vnlerned but men of learning and intelligence are vvel assured that the bare letter is no more scripture then the body of a man is a man For as the soule is the life of the body that vvhich maketh a man so the sense is the life of the vvorde and that vvhich giueth scripture life essēce being Com. ad Gal. Vvherfore sainct Hierome sayeth that The ghlospel is not in the vvorde but in the sence not in the barke but in the sappe not in the leaues of the vvords but in the roote of the meaning Let not therfore out Reformers vaunte in their pulpits that they trye their doctrine by the touchstone of scripture nether let them insulte ouer Catholikes as though they relyed only on mens decrees and Popes Bulles for if they giue vs the letter of scripture vvith the true meaning vvhich is the formal cause and life of the vvord vve vvill reuerence it as the vvord of God and preferre it before all the decrees and vvritinges of Pope and Church but take the true sense from it and it is no more scripture then is a man vvithout a soule bicause as the same body may be the liuing body of a man and a dead carcas also so the same letter vvith the true meaning is the vvord of God vvith a false meaning it is the vvord of the deuil As for example those vvords of our Sauiour The father is greater then I Io. 1● taken in the right sence that is according to Christes humain nature are the true vvord of God but taken in the meaning of the Arrians vvho imagined Christe a creature inferiour euen in person to his father they are noe vvord of God but of the deuil vnlesse you vvill graunte heresie to be the vvord of God The reason of this is bicause vvords are vvordes in that they are signes of the myndes meaning and do explicate her invvard conceipt and consequently that is Gods vvord vvhich explicateth his meaning and diuine conceipt but if it explicate the mynd of the deuil or of his ministers such as all heretikes are then is it not the vvord of God but rather of the deuil Vverfore vvhen the letter of the scripture is ioyned vvith the right meaning then do vve graunt though men vvrote it that is is the vvord of God bicause it explicateh his meaning vvho spake vnto the holy vvriters in that meaning and directed their hartes and handes in the vvriting of the same Isa 1. In so much that God sayeth to Isaie Heb. 1. Behold I haue put my vvords in thy mouthe And saint Paul saieth that God diuersly and by diuers meanes spake in tymes paste vnto our forfathers in the Prophets that is in the mouche of the prophets puttīg in their mouthes that vvhich they vvere to speake and directing their hands to vvrite it For as the vital spirit of man frameth his vvordes in his mouthe and giueth them their meaning so the vvords of the prophets and other holy vvriters vvere framed in their mouthes by the spirit of God Vvhich is the very cause vvhy diuines saye that God vvas the principal speaker and vvriter of scripture and that the Prophet Apostle or Euangeliste vvas his instrument and as it vvere the pen mouthe and tongue of God Psal 44. Praefat. in Mat. 1. Li. 7. conf ● vlt l ●● Ciuit. c. 38. Hom 10. in ●exam in that he vvas guided directed by him and his holy spirit Vvherfore Dauid vvho vvas one of these vvriters sayeth that his tongue is the penne or quill of him that vvriteth svviftly and saint Gregorie and saint Austine affirme scripture to bee the venerable stile of the holy ghost and saint Basil sayeth that not only the sense of scripture but also every vvord and tittle is inspired by the holy ghost Vvherin a difference is put betvvixte scripture and definitions of the Church Pope or Councels Bicause these are assisted by the holy ghost only that they may define the truth and so the sense of a Councells definition confirmed by the Pope is of the holy ghost but it is not necessarie that euery vvord or reason in a Councell proceed from the holy spirit of God and therfore diuines say that in a Councell that thing only is necessarilie to be beleeued vvhich the Councell of set purpose intended to define But as for other thinges vvhich are spoken incidently and as for reasons vvhich the Councel alleageth they are not of that credit although vvithout cuident cause they are not to be reiected And this is the cause vvhy the ancient fathers do vvay and ponder euery vvorde and tittle vvhich interpretours of the Councels canons or definitions do not Vver●ore as I sayed let them not charge vs vvith contempt of scripture for our opinion and estimation of scripture is most venerable if it be in deed scripture yea vve auouch that in it selfe it is of farre greater authoritie then is the Church or her definitions bicause though God assiste both yet after a more noble manner he assisteth holy vvriters in vvriting of scripture bicause he assisteth them infaillibly not only for the sense and veritie but also for euery vvord vvhich they vvrite and euery reason and vvhatsoeuer is in scripture vvheras he assisteth the Pope and Councell infallibly only for the sence and veritie of that vvhich they intēde to define but nether for euery vvord nor for euery reason nor for euerie thing vvhich is incidently spoken as is already declared And yet vvee say also that although scripture of it self be greater then the Church and indepēdent of her bicause not from her but from God it hathe authoritie and veritie yet the Church is better knovvn to vs then scripture and therfore though she make not scripture yet of her vve are to learne vvhich is scripture and vvhat is the meaning therof vvhich is noe more disgrace to scripture then that faint Ihon and the Apostles should giue testimonie of Christe bicause they vvere better knovvn then he though his authoritie in it selfe vvas greater thē theirs not depēding of them yea the reformers euery one in particuler be he a Cobler is according to their doctrine to iudge by his priuate spirit vvhich is scripture and vvhat is the