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A45632 Some reflections upon a treatise call'd Pietas Romana & Parisiensis, lately printed at Oxford to which are added, I, A vindication of Protestant charity, in answer to some passages in Mr. E.M.'s Remarks on a late conference, II, A defence of the Oxford reply to two discourses there printed, A.D., 1687. Harrington, James, 1664-1693. 1688 (1688) Wing H834; ESTC R6024 66,202 96

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