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A15082 A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of DivĀ· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit* White, Francis, 1564?-1638.; Laud, William, 1573-1645.; Baylie, Richard, b. 1585 or 6, attributed name.; Cockson, Thomas, engraver.; Fisher, John, 1569-1641. 1624 (1624) STC 25382; ESTC S122241 841,497 706

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shall_v make_v no_o image_n with_o intent_n to_o worship_v it_o ergo_fw-la to_o god_n express_a word_n thou_o shall_v not_o bow_v down_o etc._n etc._n we_o may_v add_v by_o way_n of_o explication_n thou_o shall_v not_o bow_v down_o to_o worship_v they_o as_o god_n or_o with_o divine_a honour_n rest_v in_o the_o thing_n and_o if_o protestant_n deny_v the_o latter_a they_o be_v partial_a in_o affirm_v the_o former_a the_o consequence_n of_o the_o proposition_n be_v again_o deny_v for_o although_o we_o may_v expound_v the_o former_a part_n of_o the_o commandment_n with_o this_o explication_n with_o intent_n to_o worship_n yet_o we_o may_v not_o expound_v the_o latter_a part_n by_o say_v thou_o shall_v not_o bow_v down_o etc._n etc._n that_o be_v although_o thou_o may_v worship_v some_o image_n according_a to_o some_o manner_n of_o worship_n yet_o thou_o may_v not_o worship_v unlawful_a image_n express_v the_o very_a deity_n nor_o any_o image_n by_o rest_v final_o and_o absolute_o in_o they_o and_o the_o reason_n whereupon_o we_o ground_n our_o denial_n of_o the_o consequence_n be_v these_o first_o moses_n himself_o repeat_v the_o law_n concern_v image_n say_v you_o shall_v make_v you_o no_o idol_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d nor_o 〈◊〉_d image_n etc._n etc._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o bow_v down_o unto_o it_o levit._n 26.1_o second_o the_o brazen_a serpent_n and_o the_o cherubin_n be_v lawful_o make_v even_o by_o god_n appointment_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n and_o yet_o their_o worship_n be_v unlawful_a 2._o reg._n 18_o 4._o and_o some_o of_o the_o best_a learned_a papist_n spiritualitèr_fw-la acknowledge_v that_o the_o cherubin_n may_v not_o be_v worship_v three_o jesuit_n vasques_n delatum_fw-la say_v that_o in_o the_o old_a law_n every_o similitude_n or_o portraiture_n be_v not_o forbid_v to_o be_v make_v but_o all_o worship_n and_o adoration_n of_o image_n and_o all_o make_n of_o a_o image_n or_o portraiture_n appoint_v or_o accommodate_v to_o worship_n be_v forbid_v yea_o beside_o tertullian_n prohibetur_fw-la and_o damascen_n vetat_fw-la the_o great_a number_n of_o papal_o expound_v the_o first_o part_n of_o the_o second_o commandment_n by_o the_o latter_a branch_n to_o wit_n gerson_n colantur_fw-la ferus_fw-la ponitur_fw-la caietan_n 20._o alphonsus_n castro_n ea_fw-la oleaster_n cultum_fw-la ystella_n 7._o turrecremat_n adorandum_fw-la and_o aquinas_n 1._o himself_o have_v these_o word_n non_fw-la prohibetur_fw-la illo_fw-la praecepto_fw-la exod._n 20._o facere_fw-la quamcunque_fw-la sculpturam_fw-la vel_fw-la similitudinem_fw-la sed_fw-la facere_fw-la ad_fw-la adorandum_fw-la it_o be_v not_o forbid_v in_o that_o precept_n exod._n 20._o to_o make_v any_o grave_a image_n or_o similitude_n but_o to_o make_v the_o same_o to_o worship_v it_o and_o from_o the_o former_a i_o infer_v that_o although_o some_o picture_n and_o image_n may_v be_v make_v yet_o none_o of_o they_o may_v be_v worship_v and_o therefore_o we_o be_v compel_v to_o expound_v the_o first_o word_n of_o the_o second_o commandment_n with_o limitation_n to_o wit_n thou_o shall_v make_v unto_o thyself_o no_o image_n with_o a_o intent_n to_o worship_v it_o but_o on_o the_o contrary_a we_o may_v not_o expound_v the_o second_o clause_n of_o the_o commandment_n by_o add_v the_o jesuit_n exposition_n which_o be_v thou_o shall_v not_o bow_v down_o to_o they_o or_o worship_v they_o as_o god_n or_o with_o divine_a worship_n rest_v in_o the_o image_n the_o first_o clause_n of_o the_o commandment_n thou_o shall_v make_v no_o grave_a image_n admit_v a_o explication_n and_o qualification_n as_o it_o be_v apparent_a by_o the_o brazen_a serpent_n and_o by_o the_o cherubin_n adorari_fw-la and_o by_o the_o confession_n of_o learned_a papist_n indoctos_fw-la if_o our_o adversary_n give_v instance_n in_o the_o ark_n of_o the_o testament_n say_v that_o the_o same_o be_v adore_v i_o answer_v two_o thing_n first_o there_o be_v a_o difference_n between_o the_o 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speech_n be_v false_a when_o he_o affirm_v the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v as_o clear_v and_o express_v against_o make_v of_o image_n as_o against_o worship_v they_o jesuit_fw-la second_o their_o exposition_n be_v not_o only_o violent_a against_o the_o text_n but_o also_o incongruous_a against_o the_o sense_n for_o god_n prohibition_n of_o a_o thing_n do_v also_o forbid_v the_o intention_n thereof_o in_o the_o precept_n thou_o shall_v not_o kill_v the_o intention_n of_o murder_n be_v sufficient_o forbid_v so_o that_o he_o who_o make_v a_o sword_n with_o purpose_n to_o murder_v his_o enemy_n sin_n against_o the_o precept_n thou_o shall_v not_o kill_v wherefore_o if_o god_n precept_n have_v be_v thus_o thou_o shall_v not_o wear_v about_o thou_o any_o weapon_n thou_o shall_v not_o kill_v the_o prohibition_n of_o wear_v weapon_n shall_v have_v be_v absolute_a and_o not_o only_o with_o purpose_n of_o murder_n in_o like_a manner_n god_n precept_n thou_o shall_v not_o adore_v image_n
do_v sufficient_o forbid_v intention_n to_o adore_v they_o and_o so_o consequent_o forbid_v the_o make_n of_o image_n with_o such_o a_o intention_n so_o that_o if_o not_o to_o make_v jmage_n be_v nothing_o else_o than_o not_o to_o have_v purpose_n to_o adore_v they_o a_o whole_a long_a sentence_n in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d be_v superfluous_a and_o without_o any_o special_a sense_n which_o be_v scarce_o credible_a answer_n this_o argument_n reduce_v to_o form_n sound_v as_o follow_v if_o god_n prohibition_n of_o a_o thing_n do_v also_o forbid_v the_o intention_n thereof_o than_o it_o have_v be_v sufficient_a for_o he_o to_o have_v say_v thou_o shall_v not_o adore_v image_n and_o the_o former_a clause_n thou_o shall_v make_v no_o grave_a image_n etc._n etc._n forbid_v only_o the_o make_n of_o image_n with_o a_o intention_n to_o worship_n have_v be_v superfluous_a and_o without_o any_o special_a sense_n but_o god_n hold_v it_o not_o sufficient_a to_o say_v thou_o shall_v not_o adore_v image_n and_o the_o former_a clause_n thou_o shall_v make_v no_o image_n be_v not_o superfluous_a etc._n etc._n ergo_fw-la the_o former_a clause_n of_o the_o commandment_n which_o say_v thou_o shall_v make_v no_o grave_a image_n forbid_v not_o the_o make_n of_o image_n with_o a_o intention_n to_o worship_n and_o from_o hence_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o protestant_n exposition_n of_o the_o second_o commandment_n be_v not_o only_o violent_a but_o incongruous_a i_o answer_v grant_v the_o antecedent_n part_n of_o the_o first_o proposition_n for_o whensoever_o god_n forbid_v any_o action_n he_o always_o prohibit_v at_o least_o implicit_o &_o interpretative_o the_o purpose_n and_o intention_n of_o do_v the_o same_o but_o from_o hence_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o because_o the_o worship_n of_o image_n be_v prohibit_v in_o the_o word_n thou_o shall_v not_o bow_v down_o to_o they_o etc._n etc._n therefore_o it_o be_v unnecessary_a and_o superfluous_a to_o say_v thou_o shall_v make_v no_o image_n with_o 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〈◊〉_d down_o to_o they_o nor_o worship_v they_o but_o we_o conjoin_v the_o former_a and_o latter_a word_n verbis_fw-la and_o make_v the_o one_o material_a and_o the_o other_o formal_a and_o expound_v they_o in_o this_o sort_n thou_o shall_v make_v unto_o thyself_o no_o grave_v image_n intend_v to_o use_v the_o same_o contrary_n to_o the_o word_n of_o the_o law_n follow_v which_o prohibit_v the_o adoration_n of_o all_o create_v and_o artificial_a form_n when_o our_o saviour_n in_o the_o gospel_n forbid_v to_o look_v on_o a_o woman_n to_o lust_n after_o she_o matth._n 5.28_o we_o may_v not_o divide_v the_o first_o and_o latter_a part_n for_o the_o look_v on_o a_o woman_n without_o lust_n be_v only_o material_a in_o the_o action_n and_o it_o may_v be_v lawful_a and_o in_o some_o case_n virtuous_a joh._n 19.26_o luk._n 7.44_o but_o we_o must_v conjoin_v the_o intention_n which_o be_v formal_a to_o the_o material_a aspect_n and_o then_o the_o same_o be_v vicious_a job_n 31.1_o genes_n 38.15_o and_o there_o be_v nothing_o more_o common_a in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n than_o for_o the_o former_a part_n of_o a_o doctrine_n or_o commandment_n to_o be_v expound_v limit_v and_o receive_v his_o kind_n from_o the_o latter_a part_n mark_n 10.11_o luk._n 16.18_o psal._n 37.21_o job_n 31.26_o 27._o isaiah_n 5.8_o 11._o luk._n 14.12_o 13._o if_o it_o be_v object_v that_o there_o be_v a_o sof_n pasuch_n or_o full_a point_n at_o the_o end_n of_o the_o sentence_n which_o forbid_v the_o make_n of_o image_n i_o answer_v first_o that_o in_o the_o place_n of_o leviticus_fw-la cap._n 26.1_o there_o be_v no_o such_o period_n or_o full_a point_n second_o because_o the_o make_n of_o some_o kind_n of_o image_n to_o wit_n visible_a image_n and_o representation_n of_o god_n according_a to_o his_o deity_n venerari_fw-la deut._n 4._o 16._o be_v unlawful_a in_o itself_o seclude_v adoration_n therefore_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n forbid_v both_o the_o make_n of_o image_n to_o wit_n of_o false_a god_n and_o of_o the_o true_a god_n in_o manner_n aforesaid_a and_o also_o in_o the_o other_o branch_n of_o the_o commandment_n he_o forbid_v worship_n and_o adoration_n of_o all_o image_n whatsoever_o devise_v by_o man_n jesuit_fw-la beside_o as_o to_o make_v a_o image_n to_o adore_v be_v idolatry_n so_o likewise_o to_o take_v it_o in_o hand_n or_o look_v on_o it_o to_o that_o purpose_n why_o then_o be_v not_o such_o look_v on_o or_o touch_v with_o purpose_n of_o adoration_n express_o forbid_v as_o well_o as_o make_v or_o if_o look_v on_o they_o with_o intention_n to_o adore_v they_o be_v so_o include_v in_o the_o precept_n thou_o shall_v not_o adore_v as_o there_o need_v not_o that_o expression_n what_o need_n be_v there_o that_o make_v of_o image_n with_o purpose_n of_o adoration_n shall_v be_v so_o large_o and_o particular_o express_v wherefore_o whosoever_o be_v a_o religious_a follower_n of_o god_n pure_a word_n must_v either_o without_o explication_n condemn_v the_o make_n of_o image_n together_o with_o their_o worship_n or_o else_o allow_v the_o worship_n of_o the_o jmage_n if_o their_o prototype_n be_v adorable_a the_o make_v whereof_o he_o approve_v answer_n although_o to_o take_v in_o hand_n or_o to_o behold_v a_o image_n or_o 〈◊〉_d sign_n natural_a or_o artificial_a with_o intent_n to_o worship_v it_o be_v 〈◊〉_d job._n 31._o 26._o yet_o as_o god_n almighty_a in_o other_o commandment_n do_v not_o always_o literal_o and_o express_o set_v down_o every_o particular_a action_n of_o sin_n virtual_o and_o 〈◊〉_d condemn_v in_o the_o same_o 〈◊〉_d but_o deliver_v sufficient_a ground_n from_o whence_o the_o unlawfulnesse_n thereof_o may_v appear_v and_o also_o in_o the_o prophet_n and_o other_o divine_a scripture_n declare_v his_o own_o will_n more_o full_o matth._n 5._o 21_o 28._o so_o likewise_o in_o this_o commandment_n concern_v image_n the_o unlawfulnesse_n of_o handle_v behold_v and_o the_o like_a be_v prohibit_v virtual_o and_o interprevative_o 〈◊〉_d in_o one_o of_o the_o clause_n of_o the_o commandment_n but_o in_o both_o clause_n conjoin_v as_o aforesaid_a as_o for_o the_o jesuit_n interrogation_n why_o then_o etc._n etc._n what_o need_n be_v there_o etc._n etc._n we_o refer_v he_o to_o the_o lawmaker_n to_o challenge_v or_o demand_v reason_n of_o he_o and_o as_o for_o ourselves_o we_o rest_v upon_o the_o reveal_v will_n of_o god_n pedious_a not_o dare_v to_o question_n or_o demand_v reason_n of_o his_o action_n jesuit_fw-la hence_o i_o gather_v that_o the_o most_o natural_a and_o true_a exposition_n of_o that_o precept_n be_v that_o it_o forbid_v not_o only_o the_o worship_n but_o also_o the_o make_n of_o any_o grave_a image_n but_o how_o to_o represent_v god_n according_a to_o his_o divine_a substance_n this_o sense_n be_v gather_v out_o of_o the_o word_n precedent_n thou_o shall_v not_o have_v strange_a god_n before_o i_o which_o be_v explicate_v in_o the_o consequent_a verse_n thou_o shall_v not_o make_v to_o thyself_o a_o grave_a 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corinthian_n abound_v with_o temporal_a good_n the_o saint_n of_o jerusalem_n be_v in_o want_n the_o matter_n will_v be_v reduce_v to_o a_o equality_n if_o your_o plenty_n supply_v their_o indigencie_n but_o if_o with_o hugo_n carensis_n and_o lyra_n the_o latter_a part_n of_o the_o word_n shall_v be_v expound_v of_o spirituall_n it_o belong_v to_o such_o spiritual_a gift_n as_o be_v communicable_a from_o one_o member_n of_o the_o church_n militant_a in_o this_o life_n to_o another_o as_o instruction_n exhortation_n special_a prayer_n etc._n etc._n and_o not_o to_o satisfaction_n to_o be_v make_v to_o god_n by_o one_o for_o another_o much_o less_o of_o apply_v such_o satisfaction_n of_o the_o decease_a to_o the_o live_n or_o to_o other_o decease_v the_o place_n col._n 1._o 24._o 2._o cor._n 12._o 15._o be_v force_v by_o romist_n to_o speak_v to_o purpose_v which_o the_o apostle_n intend_v not_o s._n paul_n say_v col._n 1._o 24._o ireioyce_v in_o my_o suffering_n for_o you_o and_o fill_v up_o or_o accomplish_v 〈◊〉_d
church_n of_o which_o a_o council_n be_v it_o never_o so_o general_a be_v a_o very_a little_a part_n yea_o and_o this_o very_a assistance_n be_v not_o so_o absolute_a nor_o in_o that_o manner_n to_o the_o whole_a church_n as_o it_o be_v to_o the_o apostle_n neither_o do_v christ_n in_o that_o place_n speak_v direct_o of_o a_o council_n but_o of_o his_o apostle_n preach_v and_o doctrine_n 2._o as_o for_o christ_n be_v with_o they_o unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n the_o father_n be_v so_o various_a that_o in_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n we_o may_v understand_v he_o present_v in_o 14._o majesty_n in_o demetriadem_fw-la power_n in_o aid_n 12._o and_o assistance_n against_o the_o difficulty_n they_o shall_v find_v for_o preach_v christ_n which_o be_v the_o native_a sense_n as_o i_o take_v it_o and_o this_o promise_n be_v make_v to_o support_v their_o weakness_n as_o for_o his_o presence_n in_o teach_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n 〈◊〉_d few_o mention_n it_o and_o no_o 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this_o stable_a edification_n be_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n not_o to_o a_o council_n at_o the_o least_o no_o further_o than_o a_o council_n build_v as_o a_o church_n be_v build_v that_o be_v upon_o christ._n 4._o the_o last_o place_n be_v christ_n prayer_n for_o s._n peter_n faith_n the_o 〈◊〉_d sense_n of_o which_o place_n be_v that_o christ_n pray_v and_o obtain_v for_o s._n peter_n perseverance_n in_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n against_o the_o strong_a temptation_n which_o be_v to_o winnow_v he_o above_o the_o rest_n but_o to_o conclude_v a_o infallibility_n from_o hence_o in_o the_o pope_n or_o in_o his_o chair_n or_o in_o the_o roman_a see_v or_o in_o a_o general_n council_n though_o the_o pope_n be_v precedent_n i_o find_v no_o ancient_a father_n that_o dare_v adventure_v it_o and_o 3._o bellarmine_n himself_o beside_o some_o pope_n in_o their_o own_o cause_n and_o that_o in_o epistle_n counterfeit_v or_o false_o allege_v have_v not_o a_o father_n to_o name_n for_o this_o sense_n of_o the_o place_n till_o he_o come_v downeto_o chrysologus_fw-la theophylact_n and_o s._n bernard_n of_o which_o chrysologus_fw-la his_o speech_n be_v but_o a_o flash_n of_o rhetoric_n and_o the_o other_o two_o be_v man_n of_o yesterday_n compare_v with_o antiquity_n and_o live_v when_o it_o be_v god_n great_a grace_n and_o our_o wonder_n the_o corruption_n of_o the_o time_n have_v not_o make_v they_o corrupt_a than_o they_o be_v and_o thomas_n be_v resolute_a that_o what_o be_v mean_v here_o beyond_o s._n peter_n person_n be_v 3._o refer_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o the_o glass_n upon_o the_o canon_n law_n be_v more_o peremptory_a than_o he_o even_o to_o the_o denial_n that_o it_o be_v recta_fw-la mean_v of_o the_o pope_n and_o if_o this_o place_n warrant_v not_o the_o pope_n faith_n where_o be_v the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o council_n that_o depend_v upon_o it_o and_o for_o all_o the_o place_n together_o weigh_v they_o with_o indifferency_n and_o either_o they_o speak_v of_o the_o church_n include_v the_o apostle_n as_o all_o of_o they_o do_v and_o then_o all_o grant_v the_o voice_n of_o the_o church_n be_v god_n voice_n divine_a and_o infallible_a or_o else_o they_o be_v general_a unlimited_a and_o applyable_a to_o private_a assembly_n as_o well_o as_o general_n counsel_n which_o none_o grant_v to_o be_v infallible_a but_o some_o mad_a enthusiast_n or_o else_o they_o be_v limit_v not_o simple_o into_o all_o truth_n but_o all_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n in_o which_o i_o shall_v easy_o grant_v a_o general_n council_n can_v err_v if_o it_o suffer_v itself_o to_o be_v lead_v by_o this_o 〈◊〉_d of_o truth_n in_o the_o scripture_n and_o take_v not_o upon_o it_o to_o lead_v both_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o spirit_n for_o suppose_v these_o place_n or_o any_o other_o do_v promise_v assistance_n even_o to_o infallibility_n yet_o they_o grant_v it_o not_o to_o every_o general_n council_n but_o to_o the_o catholic_a body_n of_o the_o church_n itself_o and_o if_o it_o be_v in_o the_o whole_a church_n principal_o then_o be_v it_o in_o a_o general_n council_n but_o by_o consequent_a as_o the_o council_n represent_v the_o whole_a and_o that_o which_o belong_v to_o a_o thing_n by_o consequent_a do_v not_o otherwise_o nor_o long_o belong_v unto_o it_o than_o it_o consent_v and_o cleave_v to_o that_o upon_o which_o it_o be_v a_o consequent_a and_o therefore_o a_o general_n council_n have_v not_o this_o assistance_n but_o as_o it_o keep_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o spouse_n of_o christ_n who_o it_o be_v to_o hear_v his_o word_n and_o determine_v by_o it_o and_o therefore_o if_o a_o general_n council_n will_v go_v out_o of_o the_o church_n way_n it_o may_v easy_o go_v without_o the_o church_n truth_n 4._o four_o i_o consider_v that_o all_o agree_v that_o the_o church_n in_o general_n can_v never_o err_v from_o the_o faith_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n no_o persecution_n no_o temptation_n and_o no_o 16.18_o gate_n of_o hell_n whatsoever_o be_v mean_v by_o they_o can_v ever_o so_o prevail_v against_o it_o for_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o militant_a church_n can_v err_v either_o in_o the_o whole_a faith_n or_o in_o any_o article_n of_o it_o it_o be_v impossible_a for_o if_o all_o may_v so_o err_v there_o can_v be_v no_o union_n between_o they_o as_o member_n and_o christ_n the_o head_n and_o no_o union_n between_o head_n and_o member_n no_o body_n and_o so_o no_o church_n which_o can_v be_v but_o there_o be_v not_o the_o like_a consent_n that_o 1._o general_n counsel_n can_v err_v and_o it_o seem_v strange_a to_o i_o that_o the_o father_n have_v to_o do_v with_o so_o many_o heretic_n and_o so_o many_o of_o they_o oppose_v church_n authority_n in_o their_o condemnation_n this_o proposition_n even_o in_o term_n a_o general_n council_n can_v err_v shall_v be_v find_v in_o none_o of_o they_o that_o i_o can_v yet_o see_v suppose_v it_o be_v true_a that_o no_o general_n council_n have_v err_v in_o any_o matter_n of_o moment_n to_o this_o day_n which_o will_v not_o be_v find_v true_a yet_o this_o will_v not_o have_v follow_v that_o it_o be_v therefore_o infallible_a and_o can_v err_v i_o have_v not_o time_n to_o descend_v into_o particular_n therefore_o to_o the_o general_n still_o s._n augustine_n 3._o put_v a_o difference_n between_o the_o rule_n of_o scripture_n and_o the_o definition_n of_o man_n this_o difference_n be_v praeponitur_fw-la scriptura_fw-la that_o the_o scripture_n have_v the_o prerogative_n that_o prerogative_n be_v that_o whatsoever_o be_v find_v write_v in_o scripture_n may_v neither_o be_v doubt_v nor_o dispute_v whether_o it_o be_v true_a or_o right_a but_o the_o letter_n of_o bishop_n may_v not_o only_o be_v dispute_v but_o correct_v by_o bishop_n that_o be_v more_o learned_a and_o wise_a than_o they_o or_o by_o
si_fw-mi 〈◊〉_d rationi_fw-la &_o veritat_fw-la 〈◊〉_d videntur_fw-la in_fw-la precio_fw-la habete_fw-la etc._n etc._n de_fw-fr mysterijs_fw-la religionis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d martyr_n apol._n 2._o 〈◊〉_d si_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d rationis_fw-la etc._n etc._n tertull._n li_n de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d c._n 18._o rationabile_fw-la est_fw-la 〈◊〉_d deum_fw-la esse_fw-la autorem_fw-la scripturae_fw-la henr._n a_o gand._n sum._n q_o 9_o q._n 3._o 3._o hook_n lib_n 3_o §._o 8._o si_fw-mi plato_n ipse_fw-la 〈◊〉_d &_o i_o 〈◊〉_d non_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n s._n aug._n de_fw-fr vera_fw-la 〈◊〉_d c._n 3._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ratio_fw-la potest_fw-la progredi_fw-la à_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ad_fw-la invisibilia_fw-la etc._n etc._n ibid._n c._n 29._o 29._o si_fw-la vim_o spectes_fw-la deus_fw-la valentissimus_fw-la est_fw-la aristot._n de_fw-fr mundo_fw-la c._n 7._o don._n ini_fw-la &_o moderatores_fw-la omnium_fw-la cic._n 2._o de_fw-fr leg._n leg._n ipse_fw-la saturnus_n &_o 〈◊〉_d &_o jupiter_n &_o quicquid_fw-la 〈◊〉_d colitis_fw-la victi_fw-la dolore_fw-la quod_fw-la sunt_fw-la 〈◊〉_d nec_fw-la utique_fw-la in_o turpitudinem_fw-la svi_fw-la nonnullis_fw-la praesertim_fw-la vestrorum_fw-la assistentib_n '_o mean_v untur_fw-la ipsis_fw-la testib_n '_o esse_fw-la eos_fw-la daemon_n de_fw-la se_fw-la verum_fw-la confitentib_n '_o credit_n 〈◊〉_d enim_fw-la per_fw-la 〈◊〉_d verum_fw-la &_o solum_fw-la inviti_fw-la etc._n etc._n arnob._n 8._o contra_fw-la gent._n gent._n s._n matth._n 12.22_o 12.22_o s._n matth._n 16.17_o 16.17_o si_fw-mi libri_fw-la quoquo_fw-la modo_fw-la se_fw-la habent_fw-la sancti_fw-la tamen_fw-la divinarum_fw-la rerum_fw-la pleni_fw-la propè_fw-la totius_fw-la generis_fw-la humani_fw-la confession_n diffamantur_fw-la etc._n etc._n s._n aug._n de_fw-fr vtil_n cred._n c._n 7._o scriptura_fw-la summa_fw-la dispositione_n providentiae_fw-la super_fw-la omnes_fw-la omnium_fw-la gentium_fw-la literas_fw-la omne_fw-la sibi_fw-la genera_fw-la ingeniorum_fw-la humanorum_fw-la divina_fw-la excellens_fw-la authoritate_fw-la subiecit_fw-la s._n aug._n 11._o de_fw-fr civit._n dei_fw-la c._n 1._o at_o in_o omni_fw-la orb_n terrarum_fw-la in_o omni_fw-la graecia_n &_o universis_fw-la nationibus_fw-la innumeri_fw-la sunt_fw-la &_o immensi_fw-la qui_fw-la relictis_fw-la patrijs_fw-la legibus_fw-la etc._n etc._n ad_fw-la obseruantiam_fw-la mosis_fw-la &_o christi_fw-la etc._n etc._n origen_n 4._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cap._n 1._o 1._o irridere_fw-la in_o catholicae_fw-la fidei_fw-la disciplina_fw-la quod_fw-la iuberétur_fw-la homines_fw-la credere_fw-la non_fw-la autem_fw-la etc._n etc._n s._n aug._n 1._o 〈◊〉_d c._n 14._o 14._o and_o therefore_o s._n aug._n 2._o de_fw-la doctr._n christ._n c._n 8._o will_v have_v man_n make_v themselves_o persect_v in_o read_v the_o letter_n of_o the_o scripture_n 〈◊〉_d before_o they_o understand_v it_o eas_fw-la notas_fw-la habeat_fw-la etsi_fw-la nondum_fw-la intellectu_fw-la tamé_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d duntaxat_fw-la no_o question_n but_o to_o make_v they_o ready_a against_o they_o understand_v it_o it_o l._n 1._o contr_n epis._n fund_z c._n 5._o ego_fw-la vero_fw-la non_fw-la crederen_fw-mi euangelio_fw-la nisi_fw-la i_o catholicae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la commoveret_fw-la autoritas_fw-la autoritas_fw-la 〈◊〉_d dial._n p._n 1._o l._n 1._o c._n 4._o 〈◊〉_d solum_fw-la de_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la quae_fw-la fuit_fw-la tempore_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la biel_n lect._n 22._o in_o c._n missae_fw-la a_o tempore_fw-la christi_fw-la &_o apostolorum_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o so_o do_v s._n aug._n take_v eccles_n cont_n fund_z fund_z sive_fw-la infideles_fw-la sive_fw-la in_o fide_fw-la novitij_fw-la can._n loc_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 8._o 〈◊〉_d omnino_fw-la nescienti_fw-la scripturam_fw-la stap._n relect._n cont_n 4._o q._n 1._o a._n 3._o 3._o et_fw-fr ibid._n quibus_fw-la obtemperavi_fw-la dicentibus_fw-la credit_n euangelio_fw-la therefore_o he_o speak_v of_o himself_o when_o he_o do_v not_o believe_v believe_v psal._n 119.105_o sanctarum_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la lumen_fw-la s._n aug._n l._n de_fw-fr vera_fw-la relig._n c._n 7._o quid_fw-la lucem_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la vanis_fw-la vmbris_fw-la etc._n etc._n s._n aug._n l._n de_fw-fr mor._n eccl._n cathol_a c._n 35._o 35._o 1._o cor._n 2.14_o 2.14_o orig._n 4._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d c._n 1._o go_v this_o way_n yet_o be_v he_o a_o great_a deal_n near_o the_o prime_a tradition_n than_o we_o be_v for_o be_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o scripture_n be_v inspire_v from_o god_n be_v say_v de_fw-fr hoc_fw-la assignabimus_fw-la ex_fw-la ipsis_fw-la divinis_fw-la scripture_n quae_fw-la nos_fw-la competenter_fw-la moverint_fw-la etc._n etc._n etc._n principaliter_fw-la tamen_fw-la etiam_fw-la &_o hic_fw-la credimus_fw-la propter_fw-la deum_fw-la non_fw-la apostolos_fw-la etc._n etc._n 〈◊〉_d à_fw-fr gand._n sum._n a._n 9_o q._n 3._o now_o if_o where_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o speak_v ultimata_fw-la resolutio_fw-la fidei_fw-la be_v in_o deum_n not_o in_o ipsos_fw-la per_fw-la 〈◊〉_d much_o more_o shall_v it_o be_v in_o 〈◊〉_d than_o in_o praesentem_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la and_o into_o the_o write_n of_o the_o apostle_n than_o into_o the_o word_n of_o their_o successor_n make_v up_o into_o a_o tradition_n tradition_n calu._n instit._n 1._o c._n 5._o §._o 2._o christiana_n ecclesia_fw-la prophetarum_fw-la scriptis_fw-la &_o apostolorum_fw-la praedicatione_n initio_fw-la fundata_fw-la fuit_fw-la ubicunque_fw-la reperietur_fw-la ea_fw-la doctrina_fw-la etc._n etc._n etc._n 1._o cor._n 2.14_o 2.14_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d heb._n 11._o 1._o 1._o henr._n à_fw-fr gand._n sum_fw-la a._n 10._o q._n 2._o 2._o heb._n 11.1_o 11.1_o 1._o cor._n 13.12_o 13.12_o lib._n 3_o de_fw-fr eccl._n c._n 14._o credere_fw-la 〈◊〉_d esse_fw-la divinas_fw-la scripturas_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la omninò_fw-la necessarium_fw-la ad_fw-la salutem_fw-la i_o will_v not_o break_v my_o discourse_n to_o 〈◊〉_d this_o speech_n of_o bellarmine_n it_o be_v bad_a enough_o in_o the_o best_a sense_n that_o favour_n itself_o can_v 〈◊〉_d it_o for_o if_o he_o 〈◊〉_d by_o omninò_fw-la that_o it_o be_v not_o altogether_o or_o simple_o necessary_a to_o believe_v there_o be_v divine_a scripture_n and_o a_o write_a word_n of_o god_n that_o be_v false_a that_o be_v grant_v which_o be_v among_o all_o christian_n that_o there_o be_v a_o scripture_n and_o god_n will_v 〈◊〉_d have_v give_v a_o supernatural_a unnecessary_a thing_n and_o if_o he_o mean_v by_o omninò_fw-la that_o it_o be_v not_o in_o any_o wise_a necessary_a than_o it_o be_v sensible_o false_a for_o the_o great_a upholder_n of_o tradition_n that_o ever_o be_v make_v the_o scripture_n very_o necessary_a in_o all_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o church_n so_o it_o be_v necessary_a because_o it_o be_v give_v and_o give_v because_o god_n think_v it_o necessary_a beside_o upon_o roman_a ground_n if_o i_o have_v skill_n enough_o to_o stand_v firm_a upon_o they_o this_o i_o think_v will_v follow_v that_o which_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o present_a church_n deliver_v as_o necessary_a to_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d omninò_fw-la necessary_a to_o salvation_n but_o that_o there_o be_v divine_a scripture_n the_o tradition_n of_o the_o present_a church_n deliver_v as_o necessary_a to_o believe_v therefore_o to_o believe_v there_o be_v divine_a scripture_n be_v omninò_fw-la be_v the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o word_n what_o it_o can_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n so_o bellarmine_n be_v foul_a and_o unable_a to_o stand_v upon_o his_o own_o ground_n ground_n lib._n 1._o §._o 14._o 14._o protest_v apol._n tract_n 1._o §._o 10._o n._n 3._o 3._o lib._n 2._o §._o 4._o 4._o lib._n 2._o §._o 7._o &_o lib._n 3._o §_o 8._o 8._o s._n joh._n 5._o 31._o de_fw-fr seipso_fw-la homine_fw-la loquor_fw-la nam_fw-la aliter_fw-la s._n joh._n 8.13_o 8.13_o lib._n 2._o §._o 7._o 7._o lib._n 3._o §._o 8._o 8._o nec_fw-la ijs_fw-la principaliter_fw-la credendum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d propter_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la christi_fw-la &_o dei_fw-la in_o christo._n heur_n 〈◊〉_d gand._n sum_n a._n 9_o q._n 3._o 3._o lib._n 13._o contr_n faust._n c._n 5._o probat_fw-la per_fw-la internum_fw-la argumentum_fw-la impletionem_fw-la prophetarum_fw-la scriptura_fw-la quae_fw-la fidem_fw-la svam_fw-la rebus_fw-la ipsis_fw-la probat_fw-la quae_fw-la per_fw-la temporum_fw-la successiones_fw-la haec_fw-la impleri_fw-la etc._n etc._n et_fw-la hen._n à_fw-fr gand._n sum_fw-la a._n 9_o q._n 3._o citat_fw-la s._n aug._n l._n de_fw-fr vera_fw-la relig._n in_o quo_fw-la l._n haec_fw-la quatuor_fw-la simul_fw-la posita_fw-la non_fw-la leguntur_fw-la sed_fw-la adimplent_fw-la scopum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d duplici_fw-la modo_fw-la munire_fw-la fidem_fw-la etc._n etc._n primò_fw-la divinae_fw-la legis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d tum_fw-la deinde_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la catholicae_fw-la traditione_n contr_n haer._n cap._n 1._o 1._o s._n joh._n 4._o 4._o henr._n à_fw-fr gand._n sum_fw-la a._n 10._o q._n 1._o sic_fw-la quotidie_fw-la apud_fw-la illos_fw-la qui_fw-la foris_fw-la sunt_fw-la intrat_fw-la christus_fw-la per_fw-la 〈◊〉_d i._o ecclesiam_fw-la &_o eredunt_fw-la per_fw-la istam_fw-la famam_fw-la etc._n etc._n in_o glos._n in_o s._n joh._n cap._n 4._o 4._o jbid._n plus_fw-fr vebis_fw-la chrsti_fw-la in_o scriptura_fw-la credit_n quam_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la testificanti_fw-la quia_fw-la propter_fw-la illam_fw-la iam_fw-la credit_n ecclesiae_fw-la &_o si_fw-la ipsa_fw-la quidem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d scripturae_fw-la diceret_fw-la ipsi_fw-la non_fw-la crederet_fw-la etc._n etc._n etc._n in_o sacra_fw-la scriptura_fw-la ipse_fw-la immediatè_fw-la loquor_fw-la fidelib_a '_o ibid._n ibid._n s._n joh._n 10.4_o 10.4_o quod_fw-la autem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d
in_o his_o body_n by_o concomitancie_n for_o then_o it_o be_v accidental_o therein_o but_o as_o a_o part_n in_o the_o whole_a for_o as_o the_o bone_n sinew_n and_o vein_n be_v integrall_a part_n of_o anaturall_a humane_a body_n so_o likewise_o be_v the_o blood_n corporis_fw-la and_o natural_a part_n be_v in_o the_o whole_a by_o substantial_a union_n not_o by_o concomitancie_n for_o than_o they_o be_v in_o the_o body_n or_o belong_v thereunto_o as_o a_o adjunct_n to_o his_o subject_n if_o we_o consider_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n take_v for_o the_o more_o solid_a part_n thereof_o as_o it_o be_v represent_v and_o exhibit_v in_o the_o sacrament_n to_o wit_n as_o it_o be_v fix_v to_o the_o cross_n and_o divide_v from_o the_o blood_n then_o according_a to_o this_o sacramental_a representation_n and_o exhibition_n the_o same_o alone_a neither_o contain_v nor_o represent_v the_o blood_n 1._o the_o sacred_a eucharist_n be_v one_o entire_a sacrament_n sacramentum_fw-la totum_fw-la compositum_fw-la have_v two_o external_a element_n to_o wit_n bread_n and_o wine_n and_o these_o two_o sign_n or_o element_n represent_v the_o material_a sacrifice_n of_o christ_n upon_o the_o cross_n mentio_fw-la which_o consist_v at_o the_o time_n of_o the_o oblation_n thereof_o of_o a_o body_n fix_v on_o a_o tree_n and_o the_o same_o die_a by_o effusion_n of_o blood_n luk._n 22.21_o and_o in_o the_o holy_a eucharist_n christ_n be_v as_o it_o be_v crucify_v before_o our_o eye_n and_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n by_o representation_n be_v divide_v and_o god_n almighty_a use_v these_o mystical_a creature_n as_o instrument_n to_o communicate_v unto_o every_o worthy_a receiver_n the_o sacrifice_n of_o christ_n his_o son_n 1._o cor._n 10.16_o but_o as_o the_o sacrifice_n upon_o the_o cross_n be_v not_o perform_v in_o one_o of_o these_o individual_n apart_o or_o by_o itself_o but_o joint_o in_o they_o both_o and_o without_o effusion_n of_o blood_n there_o be_v no_o remission_n of_o sin_n est_fw-la heb._n 9.22_o so_o likewise_o in_o the_o holy_a eucharist_n the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v represent_v as_o it_o be_v divide_v from_o the_o blood_n and_o again_o the_o blood_n as_o sever_v from_o the_o body_n and_o god_n concur_v with_o both_o the_o element_n deliver_v and_o receive_v with_o the_o one_o as_o it_o be_v by_o inception_n and_o with_o the_o other_o by_o consummation_n and_o communicant_n partake_v not_o the_o whole_a sacrifice_n of_o christ_n until_o they_o have_v receive_v both_o the_o material_a part_n of_o the_o sacrament_n here_o then_o be_v no_o popish_a concomitancie_n either_o of_o the_o blood_n to_o the_o body_n when_o it_o be_v receive_v apart_o or_o of_o the_o body_n to_o the_o blood_n when_o that_o be_v receive_v alone_o but_o the_o sacrament_n reach_v the_o body_n &_o blood_n as_o they_o be_v divide_v and_o they_o be_v then_o conjoin_v to_o make_v one_o sacrifice_n when_o they_o be_v both_o deliver_v and_o receive_v the_o whole_a can_v be_v in_o one_o part_n neither_o do_v one_o part_n concomitate_fw-la another_o but_o be_v substantial_o unite_v to_o another_o and_o in_o a_o sacrifice_n or_o sacrament_n compound_v of_o divisible_a part_n he_o which_o give_v or_o receive_v one_o material_a part_n do_v not_o therein_o or_o thereby_o distribute_v or_o receive_v the_o whole_a neither_o again_o be_v the_o deity_n unite_v to_o the_o body_n or_o blood_n of_o christ_n by_o concomitancie_n but_o by_o personal_a union_n thus_o than_o i_o argue_v whatsoever_o be_v receive_v in_o the_o sacrament_n by_o we_o be_v before_o offer_v to_o god_n upon_o the_o crosse._n but_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n have_v blood_n in_o it_o by_o concomitance_n or_o the_o deity_n in_o it_o by_o concomitancie_n or_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n have_v in_o it_o the_o body_n or_o 〈◊〉_d by_o concomitancie_n be_v not_o offer_v to_o god_n upon_o the_o cross_n for_o before_o the_o effusion_n of_o the_o blood_n the_o same_o be_v in_o the_o body_n as_o a_o part_n not_o by_o concomitancie_n after_o the_o full_a effusion_n the_o blood_n be_v divide_v from_o the_o body_n and_o the_o 〈◊〉_d be_v with_o the_o body_n by_o personal_a union_n and_o not_o by_o concomitancie_n ergo_fw-la at_o this_o day_n the_o body_n and_o deity_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o in_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n by_o concomitancie_n etc._n etc._n jesuit_fw-la first_o he_o that_o acknowledge_v the_o real_a presence_n of_o christ_n sacred_a body_n under_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n and_o deny_v concomitancie_n do_v in_o his_o belief_n separate_v the_o blood_n and_o soul_n of_o christ_n from_o his_o body_n but_o to_o separate_v either_o christ_n divinity_n from_o his_o humanity_n or_o soul_n from_o his_o body_n or_o his_o blood_n from_o his_o flesh_n be_v unlawful_a for_o such_o a_o believer_n do_v dissolve_v and_o destroy_v christ_n jesus_n and_o so_o be_v one_o of_o the_o number_n of_o they_o that_o s_o john_n condemn_v omnis_fw-la 4.3_o spiritus_fw-la qui_fw-la soluit_fw-la jesum_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la ex_fw-la deo_fw-la &_o hic_fw-la est_fw-la antichristus_fw-la answer_n the_o sum_n of_o this_o objection_n be_v whosoever_o dissolve_v christ_n jesus_n be_v a_o antichrist_n every_o one_o who_o admit_v real_a presence_n and_o yet_o deny_v concomitancie_n dissolve_v christ_n jesus_n for_o he_o separate_v the_o blood_n and_o soul_n of_o christ_n from_o his_o body_n and_o his_o divinity_n from_o his_o humanity_n ergo_fw-la whosoever_o in_o the_o real_a presence_n deny_v concomitancie_n be_v a_o antichrist_n our_o answer_n be_v whosoever_o dissolve_v christ_n jesus_n according_a to_o s._n johns_n meaning_n 1._o joh._n 4.3_o by_o deny_v his_o deity_n humanity_n or_o personal_a union_n etc._n be_v antichrist_n but_o the_o deny_v of_o popish_a concomitancie_n infer_v none_o of_o these_o for_o although_o we_o affirm_v that_o in_o the_o holy_a eucharist_n the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v represent_v distinct_o and_o as_o they_o be_v divide_v at_o his_o passion_n yet_o this_o dissolve_v not_o jesus_n but_o signify_v the_o separation_n of_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n former_o make_v upon_o the_o cross_n consecuti_fw-la and_o we_o believe_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n according_a to_o the_o distinct_a signification_n potuit_fw-la of_o the_o sacramental_a element_n reach_v in_o a_o spiritual_a manner_n the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n crucify_v to_o all_o faithful_a communicant_n and_o add_v a_o several_a effect_n and_o virtue_n of_o spiritual_a refection_n to_o each_o distinct_a part_n receive_v 〈◊〉_d according_a to_o the_o signification_n and_o this_o be_v confess_v by_o vasques_n ruard_v tapper_n alexander_n halles_n jesuit_fw-la and_o this_o argument_n have_v great_a force_n in_o their_o opinion_n who_o shall_v think_v that_o christ_n leave_v heaven_n for_o the_o time_n to_o come_v down_o real_o according_a to_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n for_o how_o can_v the_o bodic_n of_o christ_n come_v down_o from_o heaven_n without_o blood_n and_o soul_n unless_o he_o come_v down_o dead_a and_o so_o christ_n shall_v be_v not_o only_o mystical_o and_o figurative_o but_o true_o and_o real_o massacre_v in_o the_o sacrament_n and_o the_o eucharist_n be_v a_o bloody_a sacrifice_n and_o not_o incruent_a as_o the_o father_n term_n it_o answer_n none_o of_o our_o part_n think_v that_o christ_n leave_v heaven_n to_o come_v down_o real_o according_a to_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n act._n 3.21_o donec_fw-la seculum_fw-la finiatur_fw-la 〈◊〉_d est_fw-la dominus_fw-la augustine_n in_o joh._n tract_n 7._o until_o the_o world_n be_v finish_v the_o lord_n continue_v above_o and_o the_o father_n term_n the_o holy_a eucharist_n a_o unbloudie_a sacrifice_n not_o because_o christ_n be_v proper_o and_o in_o his_o substance_n offer_v therein_o but_o because_o his_o bloody_a sacrifice_n upon_o the_o cross_n be_v by_o this_o unbloudie_a commemoration_n represent_v call_v to_o remembrance_n and_o apply_v read_v the_o sentence_n of_o father_n obtulit_fw-la place_v in_o the_o margin_n read_v also_o peter_n lombard_n semel_fw-la and_o the_o enchiridion_n of_o colen_n semel_fw-la jesuit_fw-la second_o the_o priest_n in_o the_o person_n of_o christ_n who_o be_v glorious_a in_o heaven_n or_o rather_o christ_n be_v glorious_a in_o heaven_n by_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o priest_n sai_z this_o be_v my_o body_n but_o a_o body_n devoid_a of_o blood_n without_o soul_n and_o consequent_o dead_a and_o senseless_a be_v not_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n as_o he_o be_v now_o glorious_a in_o heaven_n which_o have_v blood_n in_o the_o vein_n and_o be_v inform_v and_o glorify_v by_o a_o most_o excellent_a soul_n therefore_o christ_n glorious_a in_o heaven_n can_v say_v true_o that_o a_o body_n void_a of_o blood_n sense_n and_o soul_n be_v his_o body_n but_o soul_n life_n and_o blood_n must_v needs_o follow_v and_o concomitate_fw-la his_o body_n wheresoever_o it_o be_v answer_n first_o the_o new_a testament_n acknowledge_v no_o proper_a sacrifice_a priest_n but_o christ_n jesus_n only_o
heb._n 7.23.27.28_o &_o ca._n 10._o 21._o neither_o be_v there_o any_o word_n or_o sentence_n in_o our_o saviour_n doctrine_n concern_v any_o real_a sacrifice_n but_o only_o of_o himself_o upon_o the_o cross_n neither_o be_v any_o altar_n etc._n use_v and_o ordain_v by_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n and_o if_o in_o all_o real_a sacrifice_n the_o matter_n of_o the_o oblation_n must_v be_v real_o destroy_v and_o change_v and_o no_o physical_a destruction_n or_o change_n be_v make_v in_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n or_o in_o the_o element_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n by_o transubstantiation_n sacrificium_fw-la then_o romist_n have_v devise_v a_o real_a sacrifice_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n which_o have_v no_o divine_a institution_n second_o there_o be_v no_o create_a virtue_n inhaerent_a in_o the_o sacramental_a word_n divina_fw-la as_o they_o be_v pronounce_v by_o a_o priest_n to_o make_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n local_o present_a in_o the_o holy_a eucharist_n but_o when_o all_o the_o word_n and_o all_o the_o action_n be_v lawful_o perform_v which_o christ_n command_v the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v assistant_n to_o his_o own_o ordinance_n and_o deliver_v unto_o faithful_a people_n the_o crucify_a body_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n shed_v for_o our_o sin_n upon_o the_o cross_n and_o although_o the_o crucify_a body_n of_o our_o saviour_n be_v sever_v from_o the_o soul_n yet_o the_o deity_n even_o then_o remain_v unite_v to_o that_o body_n which_o then_o be_v not_o dead_a in_o regard_n of_o merit_n and_o satisfaction_n and_o all_o they_o which_o receive_v that_o body_n by_o operative_a faith_n be_v make_v partaker_n of_o the_o merit_n and_o satisfaction_n thereof_o and_o by_o this_o receive_n be_v more_o and_o more_o ingraff_v into_o christ._n jesuit_fw-la three_o if_o under_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n be_v only_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o soul_n and_o blood_n be_v not_o by_o concomitancie_n there_o the_o communicant_n shall_v receive_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n but_o not_o true_o christ_n as_o our_o adversary_n grant_n 74._o calvin_n special_o say_v quis_fw-la sanus_fw-la &_o sobrius_fw-la christi_fw-la corpus_fw-la christum_fw-la esse_fw-la sibi_fw-la persuadeat_fw-la and_o again_o ne_o fando_fw-la quidem_fw-la auditum_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la aut_fw-la sanguinem_fw-la deum_fw-la &_o hominem_fw-la appellari_fw-la but_o father_n affirm_v most_o constant_o that_o not_o only_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n but_o also_o cor._n christ_n himself_o be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n that_o we_o take_v in_o the_o dominical_a refection_n the_o word_n make_v flesh_n that_o by_o the_o consecration_n of_o the_o mystery_n we_o receive_v the_o very_a son_n of_o god_n that_o under_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n we_o lodge_v within_o we_o the_o sovereign_a king_n and_o that_o we_o see_v christ_n feel_v christ_n eat_v christ_n non_fw-la regium_fw-la pverum_fw-la sed_fw-la ipsum_fw-la unigenitum_fw-la dei_fw-la filium_fw-la a_o hundred_o other_o place_n may_v be_v bring_v where_o the_o father_n call_v the_o consecrate_a bread_n christ_n and_o consequent_o they_o do_v not_o think_v there_o be_v the_o mere_a body_n without_o blood_n and_o soul_n see_v as_o calvin_n do_v confess_v it_o be_v a_o absurd_a manner_n of_o speech_n to_o term_v christ_n the_o mere_a body_n of_o christ_n and_o such_o a_o form_n of_o speech_n be_v never_o hear_v of_o hitherto_o in_o the_o world_n ergo_fw-la concomitancie_n that_o be_v christ_n real_a and_o entire_a body_n soul_n flesh_n blood_n to_o be_v under_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n be_v acknowledge_v by_o the_o father_n answer_n it_o be_v grant_v that_o worthy_a communicant_n in_o the_o holy_a eucharist_n receive_v christ_n joh._n 6._o 33_o 35_o 48._o but_o sacramental_a eat_v his_o flesh_n and_o drink_v his_o blood_n be_v the_o mean_n by_o which_o they_o be_v unite_v and_o incorporate_v with_o christ_n himself_o therefore_o the_o objection_n to_o wit_n if_o the_o soul_n and_o blood_n be_v not_o in_o christ_n body_n by_o concomitancie_n communicant_n shall_v receive_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n but_o not_o true_o christ_n be_v inconsequent_a because_o by_o receive_v the_o one_o they_o receive_v the_o other_o and_o the_o former_a be_v the_o instrumental_a cause_n of_o the_o latter_a so_o in_o this_o kind_n of_o spiritual_a concomitancie_n neither_o the_o father_n nor_o calvin_n nor_o we_o nor_o you_o need_v be_v at_o any_o difference_n jesuit_fw-la this_o principle_n which_o be_v no_o less_o certain_a than_o the_o true_a real_a presence_n suppose_v i_o infer_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o communion_n under_o one_o kind_n to_o wit_n under_o the_o sole_a form_n of_o bread_n by_o this_o argument_n if_o communion_n under_o one_o kind_n be_v not_o against_o the_o substance_n either_o of_o christ_n institution_n or_o of_o his_o sacrament_n or_o his_o precept_n or_o of_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n it_o be_v lawful_a justifiable_a and_o for_o just_a reason_n may_v be_v command_v by_o the_o church_n this_o proposition_n be_v true_a because_o there_o neither_o be_v other_o cause_n of_o dislike_n that_o may_v not_o be_v reduce_v to_o these_o four_o neither_o do_v christ_n institution_n or_o sacrament_n or_o precept_n or_o the_o primitive_a practice_n bind_v we_o to_o keep_v they_o further_o than_o in_o substance_n the_o accidental_a circumstance_n of_o institution_n sacrament_n precept_n primitive_a custom_n be_v variable_a according_a to_o the_o variable_a disposition_n of_o thing_n unto_o which_o the_o church_n militant_a in_o this_o life_n be_v subject_a now_o i_o assume_v concomitancie_n be_v suppose_v it_o may_v be_v make_v evident_a that_o communion_n under_o one_o kind_n be_v not_o against_o the_o substance_n either_o of_o christ_n institution_n or_o of_o the_o sacrament_n or_o of_o his_o precept_n or_o of_o his_o primitive_a practice_n for_o the_o substance_n of_o these_o four_o obligation_n be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o to_o wit_n that_o we_o be_v true_o and_o real_o partaker_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o saviour_n which_o be_v full_o do_v by_o communion_n under_o one_o kind_n as_o i_o will_v show_v in_o the_o four_o consequent_a section_n answer_n if_o concomitancie_n which_o be_v style_v in_o this_o place_n by_o the_o name_n of_o a_o principle_n be_v grant_v yet_o communion_n in_o one_o kind_n be_v not_o justifiable_a for_o although_o it_o deprive_v not_o people_n of_o christ_n blood_n as_o it_o be_v a_o bodily_a part_n adeps_fw-la contain_v in_o the_o vein_n yet_o it_o deprive_v they_o of_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n as_o it_o be_v shed_v and_o pour_v out_o and_o offer_v in_o sacrifice_n for_o they_o to_o the_o main_a argument_n i_o answer_v deny_v the_o assumption_n for_o communion_n in_o one_o kind_n be_v repugnant_a to_o the_o first_o institution_n of_o the_o eucharist_n by_o christ_n who_o hallow_v two_o material_a element_n bread_n and_o wine_n appoint_v they_o a_o distinct_a signification_n deliver_v they_o indifferent_o to_o all_o the_o communicant_n and_o annex_v a_o promise_n to_o the_o reception_n of_o the_o one_o as_o well_o as_o to_o the_o sumption_n of_o the_o other_o second_o it_o be_v repugnant_a to_o the_o express_a precept_n of_o christ_n say_v drink_v you_o all_o of_o this_o and_o to_o s._n paul_n precept_n 〈◊〉_d 1._o cor._n 11._o 28._o three_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o holy_a apostle_n 11.23.26_o and_o of_o the_o primitive_a church_n didicistis_fw-la be_v against_o it_o four_o the_o people_n which_o receive_v in_o one_o kind_n receive_v only_o a_o moiety_n and_o piece_n but_o not_o the_o whole_a and_o entire_a sacrament_n jesuit_fw-la jesuit_o 2._o communion_n under_o one_o kind_n not_o against_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o institution_n of_o christ._n divine_a institution_n be_v a_o action_n of_o god_n whereby_o he_o give_v be_v unto_o thing_n with_o reference_n unto_o some_o special_a end_n this_o end_n be_v twofold_a the_o 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marry_v because_o he_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o propagate_v