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A14227 An ansvver to a challenge made by a Iesuite in Ireland Wherein the iudgement of antiquity in the points questioned is truely delivered, and the noveltie of the now romish doctrine plainly discovered. By Iames Vssher Bishop of Meath. Ussher, James, 1581-1656.; Malone, William, 1586-1656. 1624 (1624) STC 24542; ESTC S118933 526,688 560

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it_o be_v well_o trinit_fw-la say_v s._n hilary_n that_o thou_o be_v content_a with_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v write_v and_o in_o another_o place_n aug._n he_o commend_v constantius_n the_o emperor_n for_o desire_v the_o faith_n to_o be_v order_v only_o according_a to_o those_o thing_n that_o be_v write_v s._n basil_n trinitat_fw-la believe_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v write_v the_o thing_n which_o be_v not_o write_v seek_v not_o fide_fw-la it_o be_v a_o manifest_a fall_n from_o the_o faith_n and_o a_o argument_n of_o arrogancy_n either_o to_o reject_v any_o point_n of_o those_o thing_n that_o be_v write_v or_o to_o bring_v in_o any_o of_o those_o thing_n that_o be_v not_o write_v he_o teach_v further_a 26._o that_o every_o word_n and_o action_n ought_v to_o be_v confirm_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n for_o confirmation_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o
good_a and_o the_o confusion_n of_o the_o evil_a and_o that_o it_o be_v the_o property_n of_o a_o faithful_a man_n to_o be_v full_o persuade_v of_o the_o truth_n of_o those_o thing_n that_o be_v deliver_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n 22._o and_o not_o to_o dare_v either_o to_o reject_v or_o to_o add_v any_o thing_n thereunto_o for_o if_o whatsoever_o be_v not_o of_o faith_n be_v sin_n as_o the_o apostle_n say_v and_o faith_n be_v by_o hear_v and_o hear_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n than_o whatsoever_o be_v without_o the_o holy_a scripture_n be_v not_o of_o faith_n must_v needs_o be_v sin_n thus_o far_o s._n basil._n in_o like_a manner_n gregory_n nyssene_n s._n basils_n brother_n lay_v this_o for_o a_o ground_n 639._o which_o no_o man_n shall_v contradict_v that_o in_o that_o only_o the_o truth_n must_v be_v acknowledge_v wherein_o the_o seal_n of_o the_o scripture_n testimony_n be_v to_o be_v see_v and_o according_o in_o another_o book_n attribute_v also_o unto_o he_o we_o find_v this_o conclusion_n make_v 8._o forasmuch_o as_o this_o be_v uphold_v with_o no_o testimony_n of_o the_o scripture_n as_o false_a we_o will_v reject_v it_o thus_o also_o s._n hierome_n dispute_v against_o helvidius·_n helvid_n as_o we_o deny_v not_o those_o thing_n that_o be_v write_v so_o we_o refuse_v those_o thing_n that_o be_v not_o write_v that_o god_n be_v bear_v of_o a_o virgin_n we_o believe_v because_o we_o read_v it_o that_o mary_n do_v marry_v after_o she_o be_v deliver_v we_o believe_v not_o because_o we_o read_v it_o not_o in_o those_o thing_n 9_o say_v s._n augustine_n which_o be_v lay_v down_o plain_o in_o the_o scripture_n all_o those_o thing_n be_v find_v which_o appertain_v to_o faith_n and_o direction_n of_o life_n and_o again_o 11._o whatsoever_o you_o hear_v from_o the_o holy_a scripture_n let_v that_o savour_n well_o unto_o you_o whatsoever_o be_v without_o they_o refuse_v lest_o you_o wander_v in_o a_o cloud_n and_o in_o another_o place_n 42._o all_o those_o thing_n which_o in_o time_n past_o our_o ancestor_n have_v mention_v to_o be_v do_v towards_o mankind_n and_o have_v deliver_v unto_o we_o all_o those_o thing_n also_o which_o we_o see_v and_o do_v deliver_v unto_o our_o posterity_n so_o far_o as_o they_o appertain_v to_o the_o seek_v and_o maintain_v of_o true_a religion_n the_o holy_a scripture_n have_v not_o pass_v in_o silence_n the_o holy_a scripture_n julian._n say_v s._n cyrill_n of_o alexandria_n be_v sufficient_a to_o make_v they_o which_o be_v bring_v up_o in_o it_o wise_a and_o most_o approve_a and_o furnish_v with_o most_o sufficient_a understanding_n and_o again_o 2._o that_o which_o the_o holy_a scripture_n have_v not_o say_v by_o what_o mean_n shall_v we_o receive_v and_o account_v it_o among_o those_o thing_n that_o be_v true_a last_o in_o the_o write_n of_o theodoret_n we_o meet_v with_o these_o kind_n of_o speech_n 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o holy_a scripture_n alone_a be_o i_o persuade_v 〈◊〉_d i_o be_o not_o so_o bold_a as_o to_o affirm_v any_o thing_n which_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n pass_v in_o silence_n inquirere_fw-la it_o be_v a_o idle_a and_o a_o senseless_a thing_n to_o seek_v those_o thing_n that_o be_v pass_v in_o silence_n 45._o we_o ought_v not_o to_o seek_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v pass_v in_o silence_n but_o rest_n in_o the_o thing_n that_o be_v write_v by_o the_o verdict_n of_o these_o twelve_o man_n you_o may_v judge_v what_o opinion_n be_v hold_v in_o those_o ancient_a time_n of_o such_o tradition_n as_o do_v cross_v either_o the_o verity_n or_o the_o perfection_n of_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n which_o be_v the_o tradition_n we_o set_v ourselves_o against_o if_o now_o it_o be_v demand_v in_o what_o pope_n day_n the_o contrary_a doctrine_n be_v bring_v in_o among_o christian_n i_o answer_v that_o if_o s._n peter_n be_v ever_o pope_n in_o his_o day_n it_o be_v that_o some_o seducer_n first_o labour_v to_o bring_v in_o will-worship_n into_o the_o church_n against_o who_o s._n paul_n 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make_v so_o near_o a_o approach_n unto_o the_o confine_n of_o some_o of_o the_o ancient_a heretic_n that_o they_o may_v well_o shake_v hand_n together_o for_o howsoever_o some_o of_o they_o be_v so_o mad_a as_o to_o sup_n say_v that_o they_o be_v wise_a than_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o and_o therefore_o make_v light_a account_n of_o the_o doctrine_n which_o they_o deliver_v unto_o the_o church_n either_o by_o writing_n or_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n yet_o all_o of_o they_o break_v not_o forth_o into_o that_o open_a impiety_n the_o same_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n wrought_v in_o some_o of_o antichrists_n forerunner_n then_o which_o be_v discover_v in_o his_o minister_n now_o 25._o they_o confess_v indeed_o as_o witness_v tertullian_n that_o the_o apostle_n be_v ignorant_a of_o nothing_o and_o differ_v not_o among_o themselves_o in_o their_o preach_n but_o they_o say_v they_o reveal_v not_o all_o thing_n unto_o all_o man_n some_o thing_n they_o deliver_v open_o and_o to_o all_o some_o thing_n secret_o and_o to_o a_o few_o because_o that_o paul_n use_v this_o speech_n unto_o timothy_n o_o timothy_n keep_v that_o which_o be_v commit_v to_o thy_o trust_n and_o again_o that_o good_a thing_n which_o be_v commit_v unto_o thou_o keep_v which_o very_a text_n the_o 5._o jesuit_n likewise_o bring_v in_o to_o prove_v that_o there_o be_v some_o tradition_n which_o be_v not_o contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n in_o the_o day_n of_o s._n hierome_n also_o this_o be_v wont_a to_o be_v the_o say_n of_o heretic_n 19_o we_o be_v the_o son_n of_o the_o wise_a man_n which_o from_o the_o beginning_n have_v deliver_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostle_n unto_o we_o but_o 1._o those_o thing_n say_v that_o father_n which_o they_o of_o themselves_o find_v out_o and_o fain_o to_o have_v receive_v as_o it_o be_v by_o tradition_n from_o the_o apostle_n without_o the_o authority_n and_o testimony_n of_o the_o scripture_n the_o sword_n of_o god_n do_v smite_v s._n 799._o chrysostome_n in_o like_a manner_n give_v this_o for_o a_o mark_n of_o antichrist_n and_o of_o all_o spiritual_a thief_n that_o they_o come_v not_o in_o by_o the_o door_n of_o the_o scripture_n for_o the_o scripture_n say_v he_o ibid._n like_v unto_o a_o sure_a door_n do_v bar_v a_o entrance_n unto_o heretic_n safeguard_v we_o in_o all_o thing_n that_o we_o will_v and_o not_o suffer_v we_o to_o be_v deceive_v whereupon_o he_o conclude_v that_o ibid._n who_o so_o use_v not_o the_o scripture_n but_o come_v in_o otherwise_o that_o be_v betake_v himself_o to_o another_o and_o a_o unlawful_a way_n he_o be_v a_o thief_n how_o this_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n wrought_v when_o antichrist_n come_v unto_o his_o full_a growth_n and_o what_o experiment_n his_o follower_n give_v of_o their_o thievish_a entry_n in_o this_o kind_n be_v well_o observe_v by_o the_o author_n of_o the_o book_n de_fw-fr unitate_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la thought_n by_o some_o to_o be_v waltram_n bishop_n of_o naumburg_n who_o speak_v of_o the_o 233._o monk_n that_o for_o the_o uphold_v of_o pope_n hildebrands_n faction_n bring_v in_o schism_n and_o heresy_n into_o the_o church_n note_v this_o special_o of_o they_o that_o despise_v the_o tradition_n of_o god_n they_o desire_v other_o doctrine_n and_o bring_v in_o mastery_n of_o humane_a institution_n against_o who_o he_o allege_v the_o authority_n of_o their_o own_o s._n benedict_n the_o father_n of_o the_o monk_n in_o the_o west_n write_v thus_o regulâ_fw-la the_o abbot_n ought_v to_o teach_v or_o ordain_v or_o command_v nothing_o which_o be_v without_o the_o precept_n of_o the_o lord_n but_o his_o commandment_n or_o instruction_n shall_v be_v spread_v as_o the_o leaven_n of_o divine_a righteousness_n in_o the_o mind_n of_o his_o disciple_n whereunto_o also_o he_o may_v have_v add_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o two_o famous_a father_n
bring_v they_o unto_o that_o which_o be_v to_o we_o invisible_a the_o soul_n as_o be_v by_o the_o deprivation_n of_o the_o body_n make_v unseen_a and_o the_o body_n as_o either_o be_v cover_v in_o the_o earth_n or_o by_o some_o other_o of_o the_o alteration_n that_o be_v incident_a unto_o body_n be_v take_v away_o from_o the_o sight_n of_o man_n the_o whole_a cover_n of_o the_o man_n in_o water_n be_v fit_o assume_v for_o a_o image_n of_o the_o death_n and_o burial_n which_o be_v not_o see_v thus_o dionysius_n concern_v the_o separation_n of_o the_o unite_a part_n by_o death_n and_o the_o bring_n of_o they_o unto_o that_o which_o be_v invisible_a thid_v according_a whereunto_o as_o he_o paraphra_v pachymeres_n note_v it_o be_v call_v háde_n that_o be_v to_o say_v a_o invisible_a separation_n of_o the_o soul_n from_o the_o body_n and_o so_o indeed_o we_o find_v as_o well_o in_o foreign_a author_n as_o in_o the_o scripture_n &_o the_o write_n of_o the_o greek_a and_o latin_a father_n that_o háde_v and_o inferi_n be_v not_o only_o take_v in_o as_o large_a a_o sense_n as_o death_n and_o so_o extend_v unto_o all_o man_n indifferent_o whether_o good_a or_o bad_a but_o be_v likewise_o oftentimes_o indifferent_o use_v for_o it_o for_o proof_n whereof_o out_o of_o heathen_a author_n these_o testimony_n follow_v may_v suffice_v 8._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d say_v pindarus_n the_o man_n that_o do_v thing_n befit_v he_o forget_v háde_n meaning_n that_o the_o remembrance_n of_o death_n do_v no_o whit_n trouble_v he_o and_o again_o 6._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o son_n of_o cleonicus_n wish_v that_o with_o such_o manner_n he_o may_v meet_v and_o receive_v hades_n that_o be_v death_n and_o hoar_a old_a age_n so_o another_o poet_n cite_v by_o apollon_n plutarch_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d o_o death_n the_o sovereign_a physician_n come_v for_o hádes_n be_v in_o very_a truth_n the_o haven_n of_o the_o earth_n so_o the_o say_n that_o the_o best_a thing_n be_v never_o to_o have_v be_v bear_v and_o the_o next_o to_o that_o to_o die_v quick_o be_v thus_o express_v by_o theognis_n in_o his_o elegy_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sophocles_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o trachiniae_n bring_v in_o d●ianira_n affirm_v that_o howsoever_o it_o be_v a_o old_a say_n among_o man_n that_o none_o can_v know_v whether_o a_o man_n life_n be_v happy_a or_o unhappy_a before_o he_o be_v dead_a yet_o she_o know_v she_o own_o to_o be_v heavy_a and_o unfortunate_a before_o she_o go_v to_o háde_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d where_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v the_o same_o with_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d before_o death_n as_o both_o the_o ancient_a scholiast_n and_o the_o matter_n itself_o do_v show_v so_o in_o his_o ajax_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o be_v better_a that_o be_v hide_v in_o háde_n that_o be_v to_o say_v he_o that_o be_v dead_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o the_o scholiast_n right_o expound_v it_o than_o he_o that_o be_v sick_a past_a recovery_n and_o in_o his_o antigone_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d my_o father_n and_o mother_n be_v lay_v in_o háde_n it_o be_v not_o possible_a that_o any_o brother_n shall_v spring_v forth_o afterward_o wherewith_o 6._o clemens_n alexandrinus_n do_v fit_o compare_v that_o speech_n of_o the_o wife_n of_o intaphernes_n in_o 3._o herodotus_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d my_o father_n and_o mother_n be_v now_o no_o long_o live_v another_o brother_n by_o no_o manner_n of_o mean_n can_v be_v have_v so_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v in_o háde_n with_o the_o one_o be_v the_o same_o with_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 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decease_a in_o general_n so_o 56._o sanctius_n the_o jesuite_n with_o sà_fw-la his_o fellow_n acknowledge_v that_o hell_n in_o the_o scripture_n be_v frequent_o take_v for_o death_n therefore_o be_v these_o two_o join_v together_o revel_v 1.18_o i_o have_v the_o key_n of_o hell_n and_o of_o death_n or_o as_o other_o greek_a copy_n read_v agreeable_o to_o the_o old_a latin_a and_o aethiopian_a translation_n of_o death_n and_o of_o hell_n and_o esai_n 28.15_o we_o have_v make_v a_o covenant_n with_o death_n and_o with_o hell_n we_o be_v at_o agreement_n where_o the_o septuagint_n to_o show_v that_o the_o same_o thing_n be_v mean_v by_o both_o the_o word_n do_v place_n the_o one_o in_o the_o room_n of_o the_o other_o after_o this_o manner_n we_o have_v make_v a_o covenant_n with_o hell_n and_o with_o death_n a_o agreement_n the_o same_o thing_n likewise_o be_v indifferent_o attribute_v unto_o they_o both_o as_o that_o they_o be_v unsatiable_a and_o never_o full_a speak_v of_o hell_n 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another_o place_n 2._o moreover_o if_o the_o saint_n that_o have_v leave_v the_o body_n and_o be_v with_o christ_n do_v any_o thing_n and_o labour_n for_o we_o in_o like_a manner_n as_o the_o angel_n do_v who_o be_v employ_v in_o the_o ministry_n of_o our_o salvation_n let_v this_o also_o remain_v among_o the_o hide_a thing_n of_o god_n and_o the_o mystery_n that_o be_v not_o to_o be_v commit_v unto_o writing_n but_o because_o he_o think_v that_o the_o angel_n and_o saint_n pray_v for_o we_o do_v he_o therefore_o hold_v it_o needful_a that_o we_o shall_v direct_v our_o prayer_n unto_o they_o hear_v i_o pray_v you_o his_o own_o answer_n in_o his_o eight_o book_n against_o celsus_n the_o philosopher_n 432.433_o we_o must_v endeavour_v to_o please_v god_n alone_o who_o be_v above_o all_o thing_n and_o labour_n to_o have_v he_o propitious_a unto_o we_o procure_v his_o good_a will_n with_o godliness_n and_o all_o kind_n of_o virtue_n and_o if_o celsus_n will_v yet_o have_v we_o to_o procure_v the_o good_a will_n of_o any_o other_o after_o he_o that_o be_v god_n over_o all_o let_v he_o consider_v that_o as_o when_o the_o body_n be_v move_v the_o motion_n of_o the_o shadow_n thereof_o do_v follow_v it_o so_o in_o like_a manner_n have_v god_n favourable_a unto_o we_o who_o be_v over_o all_o it_o follow_v that_o we_o shall_v have_v all_o his_o friend_n both_o angel_n and_o soul_n and_o spirit_n love_v unto_o we_o for_o they_o have_v a_o fellow-feeling_n with_o they_o that_o be_v think_v worthy_a to_o find_v favour_n from_o god_n neither_o be_v they_o only_o favourable_a unto_o such_o as_o be_v thus_o worthy_a but_o they_o work_v with_o they_o also_o that_o be_v willing_a to_o do_v service_n unto_o he_o who_o be_v god_n over_o all_o &_o be_v friendly_a to_o they_o and_o pray_v with_o they_o and_o entreat_v with_o they_o so_o as_o we_o may_v be_v bold_a to_o say_v that_o when_o man_n which_o with_o resolution_n propose_v unto_o themselves_o the_o best_a thing_n do_v 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