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A19033 The plea for infants and elder people, concerning their baptisme, or, A processe of the passages between M. Iohn Smyth and Richard Clyfton wherein, first is proved, that the baptising of infants of beleevers, is an ordinance of God, secondly, that the rebaptising of such, as have been formerly baptised in the apostate churches of Christians, is utterly unlawful, also, the reasons and objects to the contrarie, answered : divided into two principal heads, I. Of the first position, concerning the baptising of infants, II. Of the second position, concerning the rebaptising of elder people. Clyfton, Richard, d. 1616. 1610 (1610) STC 5450; ESTC S1572 214,939 244

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baptize_v and_o hear_v what_o be_v demand_v and_o what_o be_v answer_v weep_v etc._n etc._n begin_v to_o confess_v that_o he_o have_v otherwise_o receive_v baptism_n of_o heretic_n etc._n etc._n now_o if_o he_o be_v baptize_v of_o heretic_n without_o confession_n of_o his_o faith_n it_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n &_o of_o the_o apostle_n concern_v such_o as_o come_v new_o to_o the_o faith_n eusebius_n ecclesiastical_a hiss_v lib._n 6._o c._n 33._o thus_o write_v of_o no●atus_n that_o ●e_v be_v vex_v with_o a_o unclean_a spirit_n in_o his_o youth_n and_o have_v spend_v s●me_v 〈◊〉_d with_o exorcist_n fall_v into_o a_o great_a sickness_n and_o lie_v in_o his_o bed_n for_o necessity_n he_o be_v baptize_v neither_o any_o of_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v accustom_v to_o follow_v baptism_n w●re_v so_o 〈…〉_o n_o fulfil_v etc._n etc._n as_o for_o the_o rudiment_n of_o this_o confession_n which_o you_o say_v still_o remain_v thereunto_o i_o answer_v that_o this_o 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in_o that_o estate_n can_v not_o be_v fit_a minister_n of_o god_n holy_a ordinance_n and_o that_o the_o want_v of_o a_o lawful_a calling_n to_o administer_v the_o sacrament_n make_v not_o a_o nullity_n thereof_o the_o circumcise_n of_o moses_n son_n by_o his_o mother_n zippora_n exo._n 4._o 25._o do_v plain_o teach_v for_o as_o the_o lord_n make_v effectual_a his_o word_n to_o his_o people_n though_o come_v unto_o they_o by_o the_o hand_n of_o a_o false_a ministry_n so_o do_v he_o baptism_n to_o all_o that_o be_v he_o though_o administer_v by_o they_o that_o have_v not_o a_o lawful_a call_n thereunto_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o minister_n make_v not_o a_o nullity_n either_o of_o the_o word_n or_o sacrament_n else_o shall_v the_o efficacy_n of_o the_o word_n an●●acraments_n depend_v upon_o he_o that_o administer_v they_o which_o be_v no●_n so_o for_o both_o have_v their_o effect_n from_o the_o lord_n esay_n 55._o 11_o if_o again_o it_o be_v object_v that_o baptiste_n be_v not_o 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●6_a where_o there_o must_v be_v a_o mutual_a confent_n of_o both_o person_n contract_v together_o and_o that_o this_o be_v so_o the_o form_n of_o baptism_n retain_v in_o popery_n yet_o teach_v etc._n etc._n that_o the_o matter_n of_o baptism_n as_o you_o term_v it_o or_o subject_n must_v necessary_o be_v one_o always_o that_o confess_v his_o faith_n and_o sin_n all_o that_o you_o have_v say_v re._n re._n hitherto_o have_v not_o prove_v it_o the_o scripture_n say_v it_o not_o and_o the_o contrary_n be_v confirm_v before_o viz._n that_o infant_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v although_o they_o can_v not_o make_v actual_a profession_n of_o their_o faith_n &_o to_o we_o they_o be_v partaker_n of_o remission_n of_o synn_n and_o regeneration_n see_v they_o be_v in_o the_o covenant_n 2._o concern_v the_o form_n of_o baptism_n i_o confess_v it_o be_v the_o sprinkle_n of_o a_o fit_a subject_n with_o water_n into_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n etc._n etc._n but_o your_o voluntary_a deliverance_n 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