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A65834 An antidote against the venome of The snake in the grass, or, The book so stiled and the Christian people called Quakers vindicated from its most gross abuses and calumnies in certain reflections detecting the nameless author's malice, outrage, and persecution against the said people : unto which is annex'd a brief examination of the author's second book stil'd Satan dis-rob'd : also, some notice taken of his discourse for The divine institution of water-baptism. Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723. 1697 (1697) Wing W1889; ESTC R27066 123,381 290

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cleanse_v from_o sin_n and_o that_o this_o be_v not_o to_o be_v resolve_v into_o the_o light_n within_o nor_o to_o be_v spiritualise_v away_o from_o the_o letter_n re._n let_v we_o be_v excuse_v if_o we_o can_v take_v that_o text_n 1_o john_n 1._o 7._o altogether_o literal_o if_o cleanse_v from_o all_o sin_n be_v a_o spiritul_a and_o inward_a work_n or_o act_n as_o no_o doubt_n it_o be_v there_o be_v as_o much_o ascribe_v to_o the_o spirit_n as_o to_o the_o blood_n in_o respect_n to_o the_o work_n of_o sanctification_n wash_v and_o cleanse_v from_o sin_n and_o therefore_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n may_v be_v both_o take_v spiritual_o and_o literal_o and_o this_o be_v not_o to_o spiritualise_v away_o the_o letter_n relate_v to_o the_o outward_a blood_n and_o sacrifice_n of_o christ_n see_v we_o have_v always_o believe_v both_o in_o the_o letter_n and_o receive_v the_o fruit_n thereof_o in_o the_o spirit_n sn._n p._n 148._o sect._n 11._o these_o man_n who_o chief_a principle_n be_v to_o decry_v and_o damn_v the_o letter_n re._n this_o be_v a_o most_o gross_a and_o foul_a calumny_n our_o prefer_v the_o spirit_n to_o the_o letter_n as_o the_o apostle_n do_v be_v no_o decry_v nor_o damn_v the_o letter_n nor_o so_o intend_v by_o we_o but_o to_o bring_v people_n to_o the_o life_n and_o substance_n and_o real_a fulfil_n of_o scripture_n to_o what_o he_o say_v in_o distinction_n between_o christ_n the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o the_o book_n of_o scripture_n p._n 151_o 152._o this_o make_v for_o we_o and_o against_o they_o who_o have_v often_o affirm_v that_o book_n to_o be_v the_o word_n in_o opposition_n to_o our_o own_n christ_n to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o who_o the_o scripture_n testify_v and_o this_o on_o our_o part_n be_v no_o contempt_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n nor_o in_o their_o place_n any_o deify_n of_o our_o own_o spirit_n and_o our_o own_o scripture_n as_o this_o adversary_n most_o false_o accuse_v we_o p._n 152._o his_o most_o seem_a pretence_n for_o 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more_o affect_v read_v therein_o than_o any_o other_o book_n even_o from_o my_o childhood_n and_o often_o bless_v divine_a providence_n for_o preserve_v to_o we_o the_o scripture_n so_o i_o know_v of_o none_o among_o we_o guilty_a of_o contemn_v they_o neither_o be_v what_o be_v say_v from_o any_o contempt_n of_o scripture_n no_o more_o than_o it_o be_v of_o the_o earth_n and_o the_o heaven_n to_o say_v they_o shall_v wax_v old_a and_o perish_v but_o the_o word_n that_o make_v they_o endure_v psal._n 102._o 25_o 26._o heb._n 1._o 11_o 12._o but_o say_v what_o we_o can_v in_o this_o case_n to_o clear_v ourselves_o of_o any_o contempt_n to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n this_o our_o uncharitable_a judge_n and_o accuser_n will_v not_o believe_v we_o he_o be_v bend_v to_o asperse_v he_o have_v swallow_v down_o so_o much_o of_o the_o sour_a leaven_n of_o the_o malice_n of_o a_o few_o false_a brethren_n persecutor_n and_o apostate_n from_o who_o he_o derive_v much_o of_o his_o authority_n and_o thus_o scurrilous_o and_o most_o false_o impose_v upon_o i_o viz._n and_o therefore_o george_n notwithstanding_o all_o thy_o meal_o modesty_n it_o be_v it_o be_v indeed_o george_n it_o be_v the_o very_a doctrine_n of_o the_o scripture_n which_o you_o blaspheme_v as_o dust_n and_o death_n and_o serpent_n meat_n on_o purpose_n to_o bring_v man_n off_o from_o try_v your_o pernicious_a heresy_n by_o those_o saecred_a oracle_n p._n 250._o this_o be_v a_o pernicious_a abuse_n and_o calumny_n against_o myself_o and_o other_o of_o we_o to_o outface_v we_o against_o our_o very_a sense_n and_o conscience_n and_o in_o good_a conscience_n i_o testify_v against_o it_o it_o never_o enter_v into_o my_o intention_n or_o thought_n so_o to_o blaspheme_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o scripture_n as_o to_o term_v or_o deem_v it_o dust_n death_n or_o serpent_n meat_n the_o lord_n rebuke_v this_o lie_v envious_a spirit_n neither_o do_v i_o vilify_v the_o write_a doctrine_n and_o precept_n of_o god_n in_o comparison_n of_o our_o new_a light_n as_o he_o false_o call_v it_o p._n 250_o 251._o but_o reverent_o esteem_v they_o the_o man_n make_v no_o conscience_n of_o defame_v we_o neither_o do_v we_o quarrel_v with_o the_o law_n and_o the_o testimony_n nor_o yet_o with_o write_v or_o scripture_n as_o it_o be_v in_o ink_n or_o paper_n but_o distinguish_v between_o the_o write_n and_o the_o thing_n write_v which_o be_v no_o contempt_n to_o either_o we_o be_v thankful_a to_o divine_a providence_n for_o both_o the_o scripture_n or_o write_v and_o the_o holy_a doctrine_n and_o divine_a precept_n therein_o write_v for_o they_o testify_v unto_o christ_n our_o light_n and_o our_o ●ight_n to_o the_o truth_n of_o they_o and_o to_o what_o he_o say_v if_o any_o do_v not_o teach_v the_o same_o i._n e._n according_a to_o the_o law_n and_o the_o testimony_n or_o write_v word_n it_o be_v because_o there_o be_v no_o light_n in_o they_o isa._n 8._o 20._o and_o then_o put_v this_o emphasis_n upon_o it_o no_o light_n george_n mark_v that_o your_o false_a pretence_n to_o the_o light_n within_o be_v here_o overrule_v p._n 251._o i_o deny_v that_o our_o pretence_n to_o the_o light_n within_o be_v either_o false_a or_o here_o overrule_v if_o they_o speak_v not_o according_a to_o this_o word_n it_o be_v because_o there_o be_v no_o morning_n to_o they_o if_o he_o will_v see_v the_o note_n from_o the_o hebrew_n in_o some_o bibles_n he_o may_v see_v no_o morning_n in_o the_o margin_n over_o against_o no_o light_n then_o let_v he_o mark_v that_o but_o be_v there_o no_o light_n in_o the_o creation_n before_o morning_n either_o inward_a or_o outward_a pray_v do_v not_o the_o light_a shine_n in_o darkness_n before_o it_o shine_v out_o of_o darkness_n and_o have_v not_o the_o believer_n a_o more_o sure_a word_n of_o prophecy_n whereunto_o they_o do_v well_o to_o take_v heed_n as_o unto_o a_o light_n shine_v in_o a_o dark_a place_n until_o the_o day_n dawn_v and_o the_o daystar_n arise_v in_o their_o heart_n 2_o pet._n 1._o 19_o and_o be_v not_o many_o reprove_v by_o the_o light_n they_o in_o for_o tell_v lie_v and_o speak_v contrary_a to_o the_o word_n etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o there_o be_v some_o true_a light_n in_o they_o before_o the_o morning_n appear_v to_o they_o and_o though_o my_o accuser_n say_v these_z and_o suchlike_a text_n detect_v and_o explode_v the_o miserable_a ignorance_n and_o blasphemy_n of_o these_o pretender_n to_o light_n for_o which_o we_o have_v his_o own_o ipse_fw-la dixit_fw-la and_o much_o such_o raillery_n but_o know_v no_o plain_a text_n of_o scripture_n yet_o produce_v by_o he_o that_o so_o detect_v we_o but_o his_o own_o falsehood_n and_o great_a ignorance_n about_o the_o light_n be_v very_o apparent_a again_o he_o false_o defame_v and_o reprobach_v i_o from_o p._n 28._o of_o innocency_n triumphant_a with_o excuse_v and_o justify_v diabolical_a suggestion_n in_o the_o quaker-refuge_n he_o say_v against_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n by_o say_v that_o it_o question_v but_o some_o not_o all_o p._n 252._o this_o accuser_n have_v a_o most_o odious_a injurious_a course_n of_o defame_v and_o pervert_v as_o well_o as_o curtalize_a our_o word_n wherein_o he_o have_v take_v part_n with_o his_o famous_a author_n f._n bugg_n to_o who_o the_o answer_n be_v give_v on_o which_o he_o ground_n his_o black_a charge_n against_o i_o of_o justify_v diabolical_a suggestion_n etc._n etc._n in_o which_o answer_n i_o express_o declare_v thus_o viz._n his_o accusation_n that_o the_o quaker_n insinuate_v in_o a_o book_n call_v the_o quaker_n refuge_n that_o what_o the_o true_a prophet_n speak_v be_v false_a and_o what_o the_o false_a prophet_n speak_v be_v true_a p._n 47._o new_a rome_n vnm._n p._n 23._o we_o
our_o body_n as_o with_o a_o garment_n or_o veil_n and_o so_o of_o christ._n which_o warrant_v j._n p.'s_n question_v against_o his_o author_n f._n b._n and_o himself_o at_o least_o so_o far_o as_o not_o to_o make_v it_o a_o subject_a of_o any_o further_a contention_n against_o we_o again_o my_o accuser_n bring_v a_o heavy_a black_a charge_n upon_o i_o in_o these_o word_n viz._n in_o this_o same_o 11_o article_n we_o be_v now_o upon_o after_o your_o full_a and_o affirmative_a declaration_n before_o he_o will_v have_v it_o negative_a you_o subborn_a two_o text_n as_o favourer_n of_o your_o damnable_a heresy_n before-told_a yet_o say_v you_o sly_o his_o flesh_n be_v call_v the_o veil_n heb._n 10._o and_o he_o take_v upon_o he_o the_o form_n of_o a_o servant_n and_o be_v make_v like_o unto_o man_n and_o be_v find_v in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d shape_n or_o figure_n of_o a_o man_n phil._n 2._o 6_o 7._o and_o then_o exclaim_v ah_o george_n george_n i_o can_v forgive_v thou_o 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