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A49440 Observations, censures, and confutations of notorious errours in Mr. Hobbes his Leviathan and other his bookes to which are annexed occasionall anim-adversions on some writings of the Socinians and such hæreticks of the same opinion with him / by William Lucy ... Lucy, William, 1594-1677. 1663 (1663) Wing L3454; ESTC R31707 335,939 564

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for_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n these_o two_o relative_n can_v be_v one_o without_o the_o other_o spirit_n and_o it_o be_v evident_a out_o of_o that_o which_o have_v be_v say_v that_o the_o producer_n and_o produce_v must_v be_v father_n and_o son_n for_o although_o perhaps_o we_o can_v proper_o say_v that_o when_o fire_n produce_v its_o like_a that_o product_n be_v the_o son_n of_o the_o fire_n nor_o perhaps_o when_o we_o see_v a_o plant_n or_o beast_n do_v it_o can_v we_o say_v that_o that_o product_n be_v a_o son_n yet_o when_o we_o see_v any_o thing_n that_o be_v rational_a do_v it_o we_o may_v most_o proper_o say_v that_o it_o be_v the_o producer_n son_n now_o that_o god_n be_v such_o can_v be_v no_o question_n therefore_o in_o this_o production_n there_o be_v a_o father_n and_o a_o son_n for_o god_n be_v most_o spiritual_a we_o must_v expect_v only_o a_o pure_a spiritual_a propagation_n which_o can_v be_v conceive_v no_o way_n so_o ●itly_o as_o by_o the_o understanding_n nor_o indeed_o be_v possible_a and_o here_o in_o this_o expression_n we_o find_v all_o those_o notion_n in_o which_o the_o same_o be_v deliver_v to_o we_o in_o scripture_n to_o be_v clear_o evident_a as_o that_o he_o be_v the_o word_n the_o internal_a word_n of_o god_n the_o image_n of_o god_n no_o image_n so_o clear_a as_o that_o which_o be_v draw_v in_o the_o word_n of_o any_o thing_n the_o internal_a word_n full_o express_v that_o of_o which_o it_o be_v the_o word_n so_o likewise_o the_o wisdom_n of_o god_n because_o it_o be_v the_o relict_n of_o divine_a knowledge_n because_o it_o be_v the_o high_a principle_n and_o first_o fountain_n of_o all_o other_o being_n and_o for_o the_o three_o person_n the_o doubt_n can_v only_o be_v whether_o he_o be_v holy_a or_o whether_o a_o person_n and_o indeed_o there_o can_v be_v no_o doubt_n of_o either_o because_o he_o be_v god_n and_o then_o he_o must_v be_v most_o spiritual_a and_o most_o holy_a so_o that_o that_o 3._o proposition_n be_v as_o clear_a as_o the_o former_a that_o these_o person_n be_v the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a spirit_n i_o think_v to_o have_v vindicate_v raymund_n lul_n from_o faber_n faventinus_n who_o be_v a_o scotist_n i_o think_v in_o his_o natural_a theology_n have_v write_v something_o various_a from_o vasques_n but_o he_o deserve_n pity_n have_v no_o knowledge_n of_o lul_n but_o by_o vasques_n and_o what_o be_v worse_o when_o vasques_n excuse_v lul_n from_o that_o opprobrious_a scandal_n of_o be_v a_o heretic_n he_o who_o know_v nothing_o of_o he_o but_o in_o vasques_n fall_v upon_o he_o with_o that_o foul_a and_o disgraceful_a term_n and_o endeavor_n not_o to_o answer_v vasques_n his_o vindication_n of_o he_o sect._n 14._o it_o may_v be_v just_o inquire_v now_o why_o we_o shall_v call_v these_o three_o person_n since_o they_o be_v not_o so_o term_v in_o scripture_n this_o question_n be_v debate_v by_o s._n augustine_n long_o ago_o august●ne_n in_o his_o 7._o book_n de_fw-la trinitate_fw-la cap._n 4._o and_o methink'_v satisfactory_o in_o the_o which_o he_o have_v these_o passage_n first_o since_o the_o father_n be_v god_n the_o son_n god_n and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n god_n why_o be_v there_o not_o three_o god_n he_o that_o say_v the_o scripture_n do_v not_o call_v they_o three_o god_n and_o therefore_o he_o dare_v not_o answer_v himself_o for_o neither_o do_v the_o scripture_n call_v they_o three_o person_n he_o have_v show_v before_o that_o the_o scripture_n say_v that_o there_o be_v one_o god_n and_o that_o these_o three_o be_v call_v god_n but_o as_o he_o have_v show_v that_o although_o the_o scripture_n do_v not_o say_v that_o there_o be_v one_o essence_n of_o god_n yet_o we_o believe_v confident_o there_o be_v but_o one_o essence_n so_o may_v we_o do_v of_o these_o person_n take_v this_o phrase_n propterea_fw-la licuit_fw-la disputandi_fw-la necessitate_v tres_fw-la personas_fw-la dicere_fw-la non_fw-la quia_fw-la scriptura_fw-la dicit_fw-la sed_fw-la quia_fw-la scriptura_fw-la non_fw-la contradicit_fw-la he_o say_v that_o the_o necessity_n of_o disputation_n make_v a_o man_n say_v something_o which_o be_v not_o against_o scripture_n in_o this_o point_n and_o that_o be_v enough_o for_o if_o the_o scripture_n express_v that_o there_o be_v three_o and_o that_o loquendi_fw-la causâ_fw-la as_o he_o speak_v at_o the_o begin_n of_o that_o chapter_n de_fw-la ineffabilibus_fw-la ●ari_z aliquo_fw-la modo_fw-la possumus_fw-la quod_fw-la offa_o i_o nullo_n modo_fw-la p●ssumus_fw-la that_o say_v he_o we_o may_v say_v somewhat_o of_o these_o unspeakable_a thing_n which_o we_o can_v clear_o speak_v out_o in_o full_a and_o significant_a term_n we_o speak_v thus_o and_o again_o in_o the_o same_o chap._n excedit_fw-la supereminentia_fw-la divinitatis_fw-la usitati_fw-la eloquii_fw-la facultatem_fw-la verius_fw-la enim_fw-la cogitatur_fw-la deus_fw-la quam_fw-la dicitur_fw-la &_o ve●ius_fw-la est_fw-la quam_fw-la cogitatur_fw-la the_o result_n of_o which_o be_v this_o that_o the_o thought_n of_o man_n be_v short_a of_o the_o divine_a perfection_n and_o the_o language_n of_o man_n short_a of_o his_o thought_n because_o our_o language_n be_v form_v to_o our_o usual_a business_n which_o we_o converse_v about_o all_o which_o be_v excel_v infinite_o by_o the_o divine_a perfection_n they_o must_v be_v short_a in_o their_o expression_n of_o those_o divine_a excellency_n and_o therefore_o again_o that_o most_o excellent_a and_o learned_a man_n in_o the_o same_o chap._n quid_fw-la igitur_fw-la restat_fw-la nisi_fw-la ut_fw-la fateamur_fw-la loquendi_fw-la necessitate_v parta_fw-la haec_fw-la vocabula_fw-la and_o indeed_o they_o be_v the_o most_o significant_a which_o can_v be_v find_v out_o for_o since_o we_o conceive_v that_o this_o term_n person_n be_v the_o last_o actuality_n and_o addition_n which_o can_v be_v make_v to_o any_o reasonable_a substance_n it_o may_v most_o just_o be_v apply_v to_o this_o of_o the_o trinity_n and_o each_o distinct_a suppositum_fw-la thereof_o but_o still_o with_o this_o reservation_n that_o the_o divine_a thing_n be_v ineffable_a and_o not_o full_o to_o be_v conceive_v much_o less_o express_v by_o we_o say_v god_n essence_n be_v thus_o or_o thus_o we_o may_v but_o to_o say_v that_o that_o language_n whatsoever_o it_o be_v do_v full_o express_v his_o essence_n or_o be_v be_v a_o presumption_n in_o any_o man_n and_o the_o like_a and_o no_o otherwise_o of_o these_o personality_n it_o be_v the_o near_a expression_n man_n can_v make_v and_o let_v we_o be_v content_v with_o it_o a_o second_o question_n may_v be_v determine_v whether_o this_o personal_a distinction_n in_o the_o trinity_n be_v a_o main_a and_o great_a difference_n or_o some_o little_a and_o inconsiderable_a thing_n for_o answer_v to_o this_o my_o humility_n and_o adoration_n of_o the_o divine_a person_n be_v such_o that_o i_o dare_v affirm_v positive_o nothing_o in_o the_o world_n which_o be_v not_o express_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n a_o relation_n we_o be_v sure_o there_o be_v by_o which_o the_o one_o be_v signify_v to_o we_o and_o not_o the_o other_o as_o the_o father_n the_o son_n and_o the_o holy_a spirit_n proceed_v from_o they_o which_o spiration_n signifie'_v a_o procession_n which_o always_o involve_n a_o person_n proceed_v and_o a_o person_n from_o whence_o it_o proceed_v and_o these_o relation_n must_v needs_o be_v found_v in_o some_o substance_n when_o we_o consider_v they_o in_o god_n who_o have_v no_o accident_n but_o what_o difference_n be_v in_o that_o foundation_n the_o scripture_n be_v silent_a i_o be_o at_o a_o maze_n whether_o infinite_a bccause_n whatsoever_o be_v in_o god_n be_v infinite_a and_o therefore_o some_o may_v conceive_v it_o such_o but_o then_o they_o must_v make_v the_o unity_n in_o god_n infinite_a likewise_o because_o that_o be_v most_o primary_o affirm_v in_o he_o and_o yet_o both_o may_v be_v in_o he_o though_o they_o seem_v impossible_a in_o we_o who_o perfection_n excel_v 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a_o husband_n of_o these_o seed_n and_o therefore_o these_o word_n must_v needs_o be_v take_v in_o that_o indefinite_a sense_n they_o be_v express_v that_o these_o be_v the_o seed_n of_o all_o religion_n i_o will_v consider_v they_o apart_o and_o fi●st_v the_o opinion_n of_o ghost_n be_v a_o seed_n of_o religion_n sect._n 2._o all_o the_o opinion_n of_o ghost_n god_n which_o he_o express_v in_o the_o former_a part_n of_o this_o chapter_n he_o make_v to_o be_v a_o error_n now_o for_o error_n to_o be_v a_o s●ed_z of_o truth_n be_v never_o hear_v of_o before_o a_o ill_a tree_n can_v bring_v forth_o good_a fruit_n nor_o ill_a seed_n a_o good_a tree_n error_n the_o great_a growth_n it_o have_v the_o great_a be_v the_o error_n but_o it_o never_o grow_v into_o truth_n again_o in_o the_o seven_o chapter_n he_o make_v opinion_n to_o be_v a_o very_a weak_a assurance_n as_o indeed_o it_o be_v although_o his_o description_n of_o it_o be_v weak_a in_o that_o place_n but_o the_o assurance_n that_o 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second_o cause_n a_o most_o unhappy_a and_o unreasonable_a speech_n ignorance_n the_o mother_n of_o religion_n ignorance_n of_o second_o cause_n can_v make_v a_o man_n acknowledge_v the_o first_o rom._n 1.20_o s._n paul_n say_v the_o invisible_a thing_n of_o he_o that_o be_v of_o god_n from_o the_o creation_n of_o the_o world_n be_v clear_o see_v be_v understand_v by_o the_o thing_n that_o be_v make_v even_o his_o eternal_a power_n and_o godhead_n this_o understanding_n of_o eternal_a power_n and_o godhead_n be_v the_o foundation_n and_o ground_n of_o religion_n and_o this_o be_v visible_a although_o not_o in_o its_o self_n yet_o in_o the_o thing_n that_o be_v make_v the_o second_o cause_n so_o that_o not_o the_o ignorance_n but_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o second_o cause_n like_o jacob_n ladder_n leads_z we_o from_o one_o to_o another_o step_v by_o step_n until_o we_o ascend_v to_o the_o high_a and_o first_o cause_n this_o he_o himself_o acknowledge_v before_o but_o as_o he_o 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that_o these_o must_v be_v speak_v of_o two_o particular_n but_o valkelius_n in_o his_o five_o book_n de_fw-fr vera_fw-la religione_fw-la cap._n 12._o pag._n 473._o give_v we_o a_o unnecessary_a stop_n here_o say_v that_o egression_n or_o go_v forth_o be_v of_o a_o large_a scope_n than_o generation_n but_o beside_o that_o he_o yield_n to_o the_o understanding_n it_o of_o generation_n valkelius_n a_o little_a after_o he_o must_v be_v evince_v out_o of_o the_o text_n for_o egression_n or_o come_v forth_o out_o of_o bethlehem_n be_v a_o nativity_n therefore_o this_o must_v be_v so_o likewise_o again_o if_o this_o egression_n here_o do_v not_o in_o its_o genuine_a sense_n signify_v generation_n yet_o it_o must_v needs_o suppose_v it_o for_o nothing_o can_v go_v forth_o that_o be_v not_o it_o must_v be_v before_o it_o go_v forth_o therefore_o either_o eternal_a without_o be_v generate_v or_o else_o generate_v before_o the_o motion_n or_o action_n of_o come_v forth_o both_o which_o be_v 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