of whom his Life Doctrine and Miracles his Death Buriall Resurrection and Ascension his sitting at Gods right hand and what benefit we reape by him are liuely depainted and written The Apostles Sermons were taken out of the Scriptures Act. 2. 16 25 35. and 7. 2 51. and 8. 35. and 10. 34 35 43. and 13. 16 23 27 33 36 40. by which Scriptures they confirmed what they did teach and thereby confounded the aduersaries Acts 17. 2. and 18. 28. the decrees of the Councell at Ierusalem made by the Apostles and whole Church were grounded vpon Scripture Act 15. 15 19 Saint Pauls faith and seruice to God was the written Word in the Law and in the Prophets Act. 24. 14. And those Euangelicall doctrines found in his Epistles which are so full of comfort to a true beleeuer though our aduersaries spurne at them he found written in the old Testament There could hee finde the Kingdome of Christ Act. 28 23. There hee found written that the workes of the Law before God iustifie not Rom 4. 2 6. and 3 20. That election is of meere grace without respect to will or worke of man Rom. 9 11 16. That man is blessed by imputation through faith without workes of the Law and freely iustified by grace through faith Rom. 3. 21. for all these he gathereth out of the old Testament as in the quoted places may be seene Saint Peter taught out of the Scriptures remission of sinnes through faith in Christs name Act. 10. 43. Yea the Saluation of our soules and the grace which should come by Iesus Christ 1. Pet. 1. 9. 10 11. Therefore he commendeth to the whole Church in his second Epist 2. Pet. 1. 19 20 21. the holy Scriptures to which they doe well to attend as to a candle saith he shining in a darke place This he calleth a Propheticall Word most sure Now that this might not be taken for an vnwritten Word first he telleth them in vers 20. what he meaneth hereby euen the Prophecie of Scripture a Word written and then giueth a reason why hee calleth it a most sure Word for that saith he it was not by any priuate interpretation nor brought by mans wil but it was that which holy men taught inspired with the holy Ghost Psal 20 21. All Scripture therefore being inspired of God 2 Tim. 3. 16. is this most sure Word which is to bee attended vnto And if it be 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a Word surer then any other then euery other word must be ruled by it No other word then can equall it for two superlatiues of the same thing there cannot bee much lesse a word to ouer-top it This is the rule then and not any traditionall word which is but a meere popish fiction and subtill deuice to deceiue by VI. Their owne Bible telleth vs by way of commendations that the Church of Berea did hold the Scriptures to be the rule to examine doctrine by Act. 17. 11. which heard the Word deliuered by preaching and receiued it but no otherwise then they found it written in the Scriptures by which they did trie it daily searching the Scriptures if those things were so Where note 1. That the Bereans held not themselues tyed to the Priests lips 2. That they heard that which was taught them with relation to the written Word 3. That they held the Scriptures to be the triall of the truth of their Teachers doctrine 4. That they hauing heard did bring that which they had heard to the touchstone of holy Writ for their greater confirmation in the truth which things are written for their praise for our instruction also in imitation For if the holy Scriptures of the old Testament were then the rule to trie the Apostles preaching is not both the Old and New the rule to try mens teaching now VII And lastly Our Aduersaries grant vs that the Word of God is that one only and infallible rule of Faith which is vndoubtable true for what can be the rule to vs of Gods seruice but Gods will And how can wee know what is his will but by his Word Therefore this Word now being no where to be found but in holy Scriptures as is proued by their own Bible they must needs yeeld that the Scriptures are then the one onely infallible rule of our faith which if they will yet obstinately deny they must deny antiquity which they so vainely boast of Contraried by Antiquity Their owne Clement telleth vs lib. 1. Recog That from the diuine Scriptures the firme and sound rule of Faith must be taken Tertul. contra Hermog calleth the Scriptures the Rule of Faith Saint Basil lib. 1. Contr. Eunom calleth the Scriptures the Canon of that which is right and the rule of Truth Saint Ierome lib. 1. cap. 1. in Mat. The holy Scriptures are the Limits of the Church out of the which we may not goe Chrysostome Hom. 3. in 2. Cor. calleth them a most exquisite Rule and an exact Square and Balance to trie all things Saint Augustine lib. de bono viduit cap. 1. The holy Scripture hath fixed the Rule of our Doctrine that wee may not presume to bee more wise then we ought Greg. Nyssen in orat de eis qui adiêrunt Hieros calleth the Scriptures a right and inflexible Rule Gregory the great Hom. 4. in Ezechiel compareth the Scriptures to a measuring Reed which meteth out both the actiue and contemplatiue life of man By which testimonies of the Fathers wee may see how they contrary our Aduersaries tenent for in plaine termes the Fathers call the Scriptures a Rule right exquisite and inflexible and the onely Rule the Limits of the Church But our new Romane Masters sticke not to slighten and vilifie the same by calling the Booke of God a piece of a rule a Lesbian crooked rule a leaden rule a nose of waxe and we must be Heretikes for not partaking in such blasphemies We may therefore conclude with the words of Isiodorus Pelusiota lib. 1. Epist 369. who saith We ought to refuse whatsoeuer is taught vnlesse it be contayned in the volume of the Bible and with that of Cyril Hier. in 4. Catech. Concerning saith he the Diuine and holy mysteries of our Faith not any the least thing must be tendered without warrant of diuine Scripture Gainesayed by their owne men Gerson de commun sub vtraque specie The Scripture is the Rule of our faith And the same man saith Li. de examin doct part 2. cons We must take heede whether the doctrine bee agreeable to holy Scripture as well in it selfe as in the manner of deliuery Petrus de Aliaco the Cardinall calleth the Scriptures the Sacred Canon Clemangis loc 3. cap. 29. affirmeth the Scripture to be the infallible Rule of Truth yea the measure and Iudge of all Truth Durand Episcopus praefat in lib. sent The holy Scripture saith he setteth out the measure of Faith wee may not write or speake any thing which may differ from
but he plainely expounded it afterwards vers 37. 43. and now it is written So that what at first was not vnderstood was after explained vnderstood and the same also written And therefore the Scripture is not obscure by this Parable but rather the more cleare because it is written and the interpretation thereof also Luk. 24. 45. Then he opened their vnderstandings that they might vnderstand the Scriptures Answ 1. This place is to be vnderstood of such things as concerned the Messiah touching Christ his suffering as afore in vers 25. 26. 2. This is nothing to the obscurity of the Scripture for the Scripture was cleare but their vnderstanding was not till hee opened it and what they then vnderstood not now euery ordinary Christian doth know and can finde it laid downe plainely in the Scriptures of the New Testament by the Apostles themselues Therefore if their ignorance at that time of those things may conclude obscurity of Scripture then the same after knowne of them and taught fully to vs in Scripture may make for the Scriptures clearenesse 3. We acknowledge that all need to haue their vnderstandings opened by Christ to read the Scriptures because the naturall man perceiues not the things of God but are spiritually discerned 1. Cor. 2. 14. But is the Sunne darke because God doth make a blind man to see it Yet thus our aduersaries reason The Scriptures are obscure because God opens mens vnderstanding to see the things therein deliuered 1. Cor. 12. 20. To another discerning of spirits to another kind of tongues to another interpretation of Languages Answ Here is not a word of the obscurity of holy Scriptures but of extraordinary gifts then by Gods Spirit bestowed vpon some for the Churches good to make the Scriptures easie Luk. 8. 10. To you it is giuen to know c. The answere to this is as to the place in Mat. 10. 11. but they alleadge moreouer Luk. 18. 34. And they vnderstood none of these things Answ 1. This place is not against the Word written For all those things then not vnderstood they after vnderstood and wrote them and wee plainely doe vnderstand them in Scriptures 2. This place speaketh of the Word deliuered by Christs mouth I hope they will not haue that Word obscute too what will then become of the Traditionall word which they so prattle of But the Gagger heapes vp any thing to make a shew though he speake at vnawares against themselues 3. Still here is of things and not of the Scriptures and of onely some things but not of all They cannot therefore conclude the generall that the Scriptures are obscure Luk. 2. 50. And they vnderstood not the Word hee spake vnto them Answ 1. The fault is laid vpon their vnderstanding 2. It is not of the Scripture but of a word then not written 3. Ioseph and Mary vnderstood not then that Word Ergo none now Is it not now written and doe not euery one now know that he spake of his heauenly Fathers businesse Belike if the blessed Virgin Mary were now vpon the earth the papists would not allow her to reade the Scriptures 2. Tim 3. 7. Alwaies learning and neuer attaining to the knowledge of truth Answ 1. Here is no Scripture mentioned 2. If they will haue this to be of their learning the Scriptures then this sheweth that women in those dayes meddled with Scriptures which the Papists now cannot abide to heare of 3. The fault is not laid vpon the truth but vpon those learners negligence or dulnesse 4. Consider what learners they were First silly women Secondly loaden with sinnes Thirdly led with diuers lusts Fourthly led captiue by false Teachers verse 6. It is no maruell that these could not come to the knowledge of the truth and because such could not attaine to it therefore is it hard to be attained to of all others This is an excellent Scripture to shew why the collapsing women and such Apostates as fall from vs now to them cannot attaine to the knowledge of the truth because indeede they are laden with sinnes led with diuers lusts and by false Teachers led captiue to their destruction because here they neuer had a true loue to the Truth 1. Ioh. 4. 6. Hee that knoweth God heareth vs he that is not of God heareth vs not in this we know the Spirit of Truth and the spirit of errour Answ What they can conclude hence touching the Scripture I see not The Spirit of Truth in man which teacheth him to know God teacheth him also to heare those which are sent of God and likewise where the spirit of error is and such as are not of God cannot listen and giue eare to such as are of God for the spirit of errour opposeth the true Teachers as Papists doe vs. Psal 119. 18 34. Open thou mine eyes c. and giue me vnderstanding c. Answ Wee teach that to come to knowledge all must pray to God to instruct them euen the best learned 2. Dauid that now prayed had a great deale of vnderstanding as he confesseth in vers 11. 54 97 98 99 100 104 105. therefore here he prayeth to be more and more acquainted with heauenly knowledge desiring the increase thereof for the godliest haue not al knowledge at once It is not the word of Scripture that Dauid desires vnderstanding in nor to haue his eyes open to see what the Words of Gods Lawes were but he would see the wonderous things thereof And trow wee when your infallible Doctour the Pope shall take vpon him to expound Scripture in Cathedra will hee not first pray to God to open his eyes and giue him vnderstanding Surely his eyes were not open that made this obiection 3. There is a litterall Historicall and outward knowledge of the holy Scriptures which Dauid was not ignorant of but there is also an internall a spirituall and heauenly vnderstanding thereof which God onely must open our eyes to see and this Dauid prayed for and these things so heauenly and spirituall he held to be maruailous and these prayed he to haue his eyes open to see also to increase in the vnderstanding of them IV. Proposition That the Scriptures doe not interpret themselues and that the true sense may not bee fetched out of themselues Confuted by their owne Bible 1. THeir Bble teacheth vs that the Scriptures are of God 2. Tim. 3. 16. that he himselfe wrote some Exod. 24. 4. Deut. 9. 10. Hos 8. 12. othersome his Prophets Exod. 24. 4. Deut. 31. 9 24. Esay 8. 1. and 30. 8. Ier. 29. 1. his Euangelists Luk. 1. 3. his Apostles 2. Cor. 10. 11. And these the Lords Scribes were so commanded to write Exod. 17. 14. and 34. 27. Deut. 27. 8. and 31. 9. Ier. 30. 2. Heb. 2. 2. Reu. 1. 11 19. The Scriptures therefore are called the Oracles of God Rom. 3. 3. Now thus then I reason All wise mens writings carry such a coherence and dependancie in them whether they
spoken is not set downe here and so proueth not the point in question 3. Of themselues there be that expound this depositum farre otherwise Caietan expounds it of the flocke committed to him So also Lyra their Glosse takes it to be his office So Hugo Cardinalis Aquinas interpreteth it of euery good thing which any man hath committed to him of God to keepe and to increase Thus they agree not among themselues if they cannot agree about the sense of the word is this then a sound proofe of so great a point as is in question Must a Rule to rule holy Scripture and the holy Church be grounded vpon such an vncertaine meaning 4. But let the Rhemists interpretation of the word goe for sound it is enough to ouerthrow their tenent for this depositum they make the whole doctrine of our Christianitie If this be the Treasure of vnwritten doctrine as Bellarmine will haue it what doth the Scripture containe Saint Paul telleth vs 1. Tim. 1. 11. that the glorious Gospell was committed to his trust as this depositum was committed to Timothy his trust if these two bee one as they are for was another thing committed to the trust of Timothy then was committed to Saint Pauls trust Then the Gospell is the whole doctrine of our Christianity except there be doctrines of Christianity which are not Gospell but the Gospell is written as before is prooued and therefore also is this a written depositum and not an vnwritten doctrine 5. This place wicked heretickes so expounded and to defend Tertul. de praescript aduersus Haeret. ca. 25. their hereticall falsities feigned such a sense of this place of certaine vnwritten traditions as the Papists doe by which they may see whence they be 2. Tim. 1. 13. Haue thou a forme of sound words which thou hast heard of me the same is mentioned Rom. 6. 17. Answ 1. This sheweth that a forme of words were deliuered by mouth but hence will it not follow that the same is not now written Saint Paul instructed by word of mouth Ergo may it be concluded that he wrote not the same How in reason will this follow And yet this is the thing to be proued or else nothing to the purpose 2. The place sheweth in what things this forme of words is to bee kept to wit in faith and in loue but the forme of the words of our beliefe is in the Scripture Ioh. 20. 31. Act. 8. 37. and also of our loue Mat. 22. 37 39. 3. If by forme of words they will vnderstand the compendium of Christianitie concerning Faith Obedience Prayer and forme of administring the holy Sacraments all these be also in the Scriptures as our Creed the ten Commandements the Lords Prayer as before is shewed For baptisme reade Mat. 28. 19. and for the Lords Supper Mat. 26. 26 27 28. 1. Cor. 11. 23 24 25. Therefore here is no forme of words left vnwritten as out of this place the Papists pretend 2. Tim. 2. 2. And the things which thou hast heard c. Answ 1. This still speakes of Pauls preaching but proueth not the same not to be written 2. It hath been before proued that Paul preached openly the Scriptures and therfore by the things heard from him must be meant those which he taught out of the Scriptures 3. It is probable that S. Paul himselfe preaching out of the Scriptures and onely according to the Scriptures also highly commending Scriptures to Timothy to be able to make perfect the man of God to euery good worke 2. Tim. 3. 16 17. that hee would haue any thing commended by Timothy to other Teachers but what was to be found in holy Scriptures This place therefore helpes not for vnwritten traditions Ioh. 20. 30. Many other signes did Iesus c. which are not written in this booke Answ 1. The Euangelist saith they were not written in this booke But what then May they not be written in other Euangelists 2. Here he speakes of signes and Acts of Christ and not of his doctrine by tradition which is the matter in question and so this text is nothing to the purpose Ioh. 21. 25. There are many other things which also Iesus did c. Answ This place also speaketh of that which Iesus did and not of that which he taught Here is not one syllable of a traditionarie word Ioh. 16 12. Many things I haue to say to you but you cannot beare them now Ans 1. This place tels vs not what Christ said but what hee concealed to wit many things which he had to speake but then spake not so as this proueth not a traditionall word nor any word at all except they will conclude that what one can say therefore he doth say it 2. If Christ had said all things to the Apostles then yet would it not follow that the same were not at all written in Scripture for Iesus Christ taught what was written in the Scriptures expounded them cited them and by them confuted the Aduersaries And Saint Luke makes a profession that his Gospell was A Treatise of all that Iesus began both to doe and speake vnto the day of his Ascension Act. 1. 1 2. 3. Can our Aduersaries tell what things Christ had to say If they can first let them shew to vs what they were secondly that they were differing from those things taught by him and written now in the new Testament thirdly that they were neuer written by the Apostles If these they cannot demonstrate to vs they gaine nothing hence for their pretended traditionary August 77. tract in Iohn word This place heretickes abused for their traditions 1. Cor. 11. 16. Wee haue no such custome nor the Church of God Answ 1. This speaketh not affirmatiuely of a custome but negatiuely of no such custome 2. Though it had spoken of a custome what is this to a traditionall word Is custome doctrine Or is it not rather applied to actions as in Gen. 31. 35. Ioh. 18. 39 3. The Scriptures allow not custome to be a Rule Leu. 18. 2. See Doway Translation Ier. 10. 2. 2 King 17. 40. 1. Cor. 11. 34. The rest will I dispose when I come Answ Here is no speech of any word of Doctrine but of order among the Corinthians Ioh. 2. 12. and Ioh. 3. 13. Hauing moe things to write vnto you I would not by paper and inke For I hope that I shall be with you and speake mouth to mouth Answ These places shew indeed that in the two short Epistles Iohn wrote not all those things which he might haue written because he would speake to them of them But can our Aduersaries proue first that Iohn euer came to vtter the things vnwritten If he did what were they If he did not then so much of their conceited traditionall word is lost Secondly that those moe things left vnwritten were either things necessarie or they were not things already written Til they can shew these things this place doth them
all those things which containe faith and good manners Chrysost in 2. Thes 2. Hom. 3. All things are cleare and plaine in diuine Scriptures whatsoeuer things are necessarie are manifest The same Father in Hom. 1. in Matth. saith That the Scriptures are easie to vnderstand and are laid open to the conceit and apprehension of euery seruant and plowman widdow and boy and him that is most simple So saith Isiod Pelusiota li. 2. epist 5. de Lazer and giueth vs a reason of the plainenesse God penned the Scriptures saith he by the hands of Publicans Fishermen Tent-makers Shepheards Neat-heards vnlearned men in that none of the simple might haue any excuse to keepe them from reading that so they might be easie to be vnderstood of all of the Artificer the Housholder the Widdow woman and of him that is most vnlearned yea the Prophets and Apostles as Schoole-masters to all the world made their writings plaine and euident to all men Origen cont Celsum The Scripture is deliuered as common Theodoret Socrat. lib. 1. meate in such sort as it is fitted altogether to the capacity of the multitude The Fathers therefore cleare the Scriptures in all necessarie matters to saluation from obscuritie Constantine prescribing lawes for the disputation in the Councell of Nice said That the Euangelicall and Apostolicall bookes and the Oracles of the ancient Prophets doe plainely teach vs what is to be iudged of diuine matters See more testimonies of Austin Chrysostome Ierome Fulgentius Hugo Victor Theodoret Lactantius Theoph. Antiochenus In his reply to Fishers answer Clem. Alexandrinus cyted by D. White pag. 36. Gainesaid by learned men of their owne Scotus 1. sent q. 2. The Scripture is cleare and sufficient and the vndoubted way to saluation Espencaeus in 2. Tim. 3. alleageth out of Prosper that little ones and great ones strong and weake may be nourished and fully satisfied Gregory de Valentia Such verities concerning our faith as are absolute and necessarie to be knowne and to be beleeued of all men are plainely taught in the Scriptures themselues Saunders in his Rock pa. 193. We haue most plaine Scripture in all points for the Catholike Faith Costerus in Enchir. We denie not but that these chiefe points which are necessarie to be knowne of all Christians for saluation are clearely enough comprehended in the Apostles writings It is not to be denied that many things are perspicuous in the holy Scriptures Laurentius Iustinianus serm de natiu Ioh. Baptist The Scripture is a faire burning lampe illustrious and conspicuous See in * Reply to Fishers answer Doct. White pa. 36. Aquinas Vasques Gonzales Obiected Scriptures answered 2. Pet. 3 16. In which are certaine things hard to be vnderstood which the vnlearned and vnstable depraue as also the rest of the Scriptures to their owne perdition Answ 1. This place is alleaged by Papists to deterre from the reading of the Scriptures contrary to Saint Peters meaning for he knew this that here he writeth before hee did sit downe to write this Epistle and yet in chap. 1. 19 he commendeth the care and study of the Scriptures to all which by their allegation this place should crosse and so should hee be made to write contrary to himselfe thus they abuse him and this his text of Scripture 2. The words hard to be vnderstood are to be referred to things 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and not to Pauls Epistles nor to the Scriptures which do treate of those things for the words may bee plaine yet the matter sometimes hard obscure things may be expressed in euident speech and in words that may easily be vnderstood so as heere they confound words and matter the manner of deliuery and the thing deliuered 3. It s said that certaine things are hard to be vnderstood not all things so that from some things to all things is no good conclusion And wee our selues confesse that some things are hard to be vnderstood and some places yea many but they are not so necessary to saluation And in that which concerneth the Gospell and sauing knowledge the obscuritie is not in the stile of the Spirit but in the peruersitie and hardnesse of mans heart 2. Cor. 4. 3 4 and 3. 14 15 16. 4 Saint Peter by onely saying that certaine things are hard he yeelds that all the rest are easie to be vnderstood for exception onely to some cleareth the rest from obscuritie and if for some things hard they will conclude the obscuritie of Scripture how much more may we conclude the clearenesse of Scripture from the easinesse to vnderstand all the rest for all the points of life and saluation are in Scripture and if onely some things be hard then many things are easie therefore from the great part of the Scripture easie to bee vnderstood we may rather conclude the Scriptures plainnesse then from some things hard to put obscuritie vpon all the Scripture 5. Saint Peter telleth vs to whom and to what sorts of persons these hard things come to be mistaken yea and not onely the hard but also the rest the things easie to be vnderstood euen onely to the vnlearned and vnstable Therefore not to other which be learned and stable such as be taught of God and doe constantly indeuour to know the Lords will Is this good reasoning Some men vnderstand not Ergo None can Some abuse the Scripture Ergo All doe 6. To whom did Peter and Saint Paul and the rest of the Apostles write To whom were the Epistles sent to bee read Onely to the Clergie or to the Laitie also Verily to all sorts as we may reade 1. Thes 5. 27. Col. 4. 16. And therefore they were not hard to be vnderstood but might be vnderstood of all sorts else had it been vaine to reade them vnto all 7. If we consider it well the Scriptures are cleare to all sorts as they come prepared to the reading thereof Let the naturall man come with the Law within himselfe Rom. 2. 14. and with such common principles as are left in all by nature and he reading will find those things easily and with vnderstanding speake of them Let the honest Moralist come and reade and he will easily vnderstand the places of vertues and vices the examples of both the threats and promises the rewards punishments in which things a great part of Scripture is spent Let Artists come one with the Grammar and another with Logicke another with Rethorick and they will see easily the Grammar the Logick the Rethorick therein contained and so will other learned in other Sciences The naturall Philosopher will see the Philosophy they that haue skill in Lawes in Military affaires in Chronologies and many other things too long to recite will see by their skill these things easily in the Scriptures Now let in like manner a man indued with knowledge in Diuinitie and acquainted with the ground of Christianitie and catechized therein come to the Scriptures so furnished and
a man endued with Gods Spirit and spirituall vnderstanding come to the holy Scriptures he will discerne them to be of God and of his Spirits inditing though none beare witnesse to them and tell him so much For the spirituall man iudgeth all things 1. Cor. 2. 15. and if he can iudge he also can discerne of thē Weigh also that those which bee good Bankers know money at the first sight whose image and superscription it beareth The worke of an Apelles is easily discerned from that which is an ordinarie Painters And wee know that men well read are so quick-sighted as that they can discerne learned mens writings from the counterfeites of them How much more then may the writings of God so infinitely surmounting all others in all manner of grace dexteritie and maiestie of themselues be seuered and sundred from all other writings and be knowne to be of the Lords owne inditing Lastly as in generall the Scriptures shew themselues to bee Gods Word and also more particularly that the seuerall books thereof are his Word So these very bookes which wee at this day acknowledge and haue in account for Gods Word and so beleeue them to be doe witnesse for themselues that they are indeed the very Word of God though the Church should bee silent in her dutie so to professe and teach them to be And this is cleare 1. From the Penmen who according to the wisdome giuen to them as Peter speaketh 2. Pet. 3. 15. haue written the truth of God Ioh. 19 35. and the commandements of God 1. Cor. 14. 37. Now who were the Penmen of these bookes we know 1. By the titles of them 2. By the inscriptions as that to the Rom. chap. 1. 1. to the Corinth chap. 1. 1. 2. Cor. 1. 1. to the Gal. chap. 1. 1. and so of the rest of the Epistles of Saint Paul Likewise that of Saint Iames Peter and Iude and the Reuel 1. 1 4. are knowne by their inscriptions 3. By the subscription in some as 1. Cor. chap. 16. 21. The salutation of me Paul with mine owne hand 4. By apparant testimonie within them telling vs who wrote them Iohn saith he wrote the Gospell ascribed to him Ioh. 21. 24. So Saint Paul his Epistles 2. Cor. 10. 1. 1. Corinth 15 9. 1. Tim. 1. 13. That to the Hebrewes in many places discouers it selfe to be Saint Pauls So the Gospell to be Saint Lukes and the Acts too for hee that wrote the one wrote the other also Acts 7. 7. 2. From the puritie the veritie the integritie the godly plainenesse and simplicitie and yet powerfull maiestie thereof euincing all gaine-sayers and manifesting these very bookes to be the Word of God What true and euident properties soeuer can be shewed to be the properties of Gods Word to know it by the very same these bookes challenge to themselues to approue themselues to bee Gods Word to the conscience of euery true Christian See Scotus his ten arguments 1. Sent. prol Art 1. Also Gregor de Valent. tom 3. p. 329. Let our aduersaries speake herein 3. From the witnesse of Gods Spirit making the reading studying meditation preaching and hearing of the things contained in these bookes very powerfull vpon mens consciences working conuersion to God and so perswading to beleeue them to bee of God as hereupon they doe yeeld obedience thereto feare to offend against the commandements therein beleeue with comfort the promises yea and so fully to giue themselues to the guiding thereof as they thinke in them to find eternall life and are so perswaded as that they can forsake all yea if need were also to suffer death vpon the faith of these sauing truths therein contained as holy Martyrs haue done very chearefully and constantly through the Spirits assistance bearing witnesse to them and by which they and wee know them to be the things giuen vs of God 1. Cor. 2. 12. This worketh faith and maketh vs beleeue them and therefore is called the Spirit of Faith 2. Cor. 4 13. This teacheth vs Ioh. 6. 45. and is truth 1. Ioh. 5. 6. and euer accompanieth the Word Esay 59. 21. to make it the power of God to saluation Rom. 1. and the sauour of life vnto life to them that are saued 2. Cor. 2. The Church is to testifie of them to interpret them out of themselues to keepe them and to defend them but she cannot either make them to be Gods word if they were not so already for she cannot make a word to be mans if man neuer spoke it neither can she make Gods word to be his word vnto vs vpon her owne credit if it selfe bare not witnesse of it selfe and the Spirit did not confirme the same and not worke this faith in vs. If her authoritie could worke this beliefe then were she to blame for not bringing all to the faith of them To worke diuine faith in our hearts is of God and not of men Contraried by Antiquitie Saluianus lib. 3. de prouidentia saith All that men say need reasons and witnesses but Gods Word is witnesse to it selfe for whatsoeuer the incorrupt Truth speaketh must needs be an incorrupt witnesse to it selfe Ambrose lib. 5. Epist 31. Whom may I beleeue in the things of God better then God himselfe Hilarie lib. 1. de Triniate God is a witnesse for himselfe and he is not to be knowne but by himself Now God and his Word is one and therefore saith Nilus it is all one to accuse God as Decausis dissent Eccl. pag. 2. to challenge the Scriptures Origen lib. 4. cap. 2. de Princip Whosoeuer with all diligence and reuerence as is meete shall consider the words of the Prophets it is certaine that in the reading and diligent view thereof hauing his mind and vnderstanding knocked at by a diuine inspiration he shall know that the words which he readeth were not vttered by man but are the words of God and of himselfe shall perceiue that these bookes were written not by humane Art not by the word of mortall man but by a Maiestie Diuine Gainesaid by some of their owne Gregorie de Valentia Comment in Thom. cap. 3. pag. 31. The Reuelation of the Scripture is beleeued not vpon the credit of another Reuelation but for it selfe Canisius citeth cap. de praecept Eccl. Num. 16. We beleeue adhere and giue the greatest authoritie to the Scripture for the testimonies sake of the holy Ghost speaking in them Bellarmine de Verbo Dei lib. ca. 2. Nothing is more knowne nothing more certaine then the Scripture that it were the greatest madnesse in the world not to beleeue them If he saith truth as he doth then is it madnesse not to beleeue the Scripture bearing witnesse of it selfe that it is all of it selfe inspired of God What farther Testimonie neede wee A Papist now of late in His guide of Faith saith thus We beleeue the Scriptures S. N. Guide of faith chap. 7. num 3. for the diuine Authoritie which is the
this life but such as were accounted as dead as going downe to the graue for so Baruch speakes to Israel verse 9 11. And hee speakes of such dead Israelites and their children which had sinned before God and had not hearkened to him verse 4. expressing their deserts worthy death Doe men aliue requesting God to heare for them the prayers of the dead vse to moue God with telling of the Saints sinnes and their rebellion against him Is this a Romish prayer Heare Lord the prayers of the dead for mee for they haue sinned against thee Will any be so madde to alledge such a reason Therefore Baruch makes confession of the liuing Israelites being then through distresse as dead men and beggeth pardon for them as followeth in verse 5. Fiftly their Doway Annotation on this place is this Men in sinnes and miseries are as if they were dead verse 11. yet by Gods mercy may receiue new grace of spirituall life They then take these for men aliue and not dead as this foolish Gagger doth Reu. 2. 26 27. This is answered before and nothing concerneth the prayers of the Saints departed Luk 16. Diues in hell prayed for his brethren on earth much more then will the Saints in heauen Answ 1. This is but a supposed speech a parable and therefore nothing thence to be gathered but as is intended in the scope of the Parable Secondly if there bee such all-knowing vision and all-helping charitie in Heauen it is maruell that in all the Scripture it should no where as clearely be mentioned as this charitie of one damned in hell Reuel 6. 9 10. And I saw vnder the Altar the soules c. and they cryed with a lowd voice How long Lord holy and true doest thou not iudge and auenge our bloud on them that dwell on the earth Answ 1. This was seene by Iohn in a vision and is not to bee interpreted according to the Letter to establish a doctrine of faith Secondly though it be taken after the letter yet here is no proofe that Saints pray for any in particular but for the Church militant in generall Thirdly their Prayer is not for other in the Church they intercede not for other but the request they make concerneth themselues Fourthly their cry is literally for iustice and reuenge vpon their enemies persecutors and sheaders of their bloud Doth mindfulnesse of iniuries remaine in Saints departed They then are lesse charitable then Saints on earth Steuen at his death prayed for his enemies This place proueth not that Saints departed pray particularly here for vs on earth but rather they pray against the enemies of the Church 2. Pet. 1. 15. I will endeuour after my decease to haue remembrance of these things Answ This is not meant by his intercession to God after death but of his then present and diligent writing to them while he was aliue whereby they might bee made to remember after his decease what hee had taught them by word of mouth or writing while he liued 1. King 2. 13 19. Adoniah had a suite to Solomon and used the helpe of Bathsheba to him Absalom vsed Ioabs intercession for him to Dauid 2. Sam. 14. So should we goe vnto God by Saints intercessors for vs. Answ 1. Similitudes are for illustration but doe not proue any thing especially thus detorted absurdly Secondly the case is not alike as betweene man and man so betweene God and vs in this case Hee is God and so euery where and not as man circumscribed in a place To man wee cannot speake when and where we would but to God wee may whose eyes and thoughts are not like to mans Esai 55. Man through pride will not or through carelesnesse regards not or through ignorance knowes not or through businesse is hindered so as hee cannot helpe such as come for helpe or his attendants about him may keepe Petitioners from him so as they cannot speake to him But there are no such lets in God The Simile therefore is not fit Thirdly this is voluntarie humilitie which caused the worship of Angels by certaine Heretikes which the Apostle condemneth Col. 2. 18. Fourthly wee need no Saints to goe to God for vs for wee haue appointed by God himselfe a Mediatour of intercession betweene God and vs his Sonne Iesus Christ by whom boldly with confidence we may goe to God Ephes 3. 12. Heb. 4. 16. 10. 22. 7. 25. Fiftly as for any to goe betweene Christ and vs wee neede it not For he is the Head and all wee the members of his bodie as well those in earth as those in heauen wee here on earth being as deare to him as those in heauen Hee sitteth in heauen to request for vs and is a most mercifull High Priest touched with our infirmities Heb. 4. 15. Therefore hee tooke our nature vpon him Heb. 2. 16. to be a faithfull and mercifull High Priest verse 17. Steuen made no meanes to him but prayed immediately to him Act. 7. 59 60. and so did Iohn Reuelation 22. 20 21. Christ willeth vs himselfe to come vnto him Math. 11. 28. And we reade not that any of the Apostles or holy men praying mentioned in Scripture did euer goe to Saint or Angell to make request for them Also to answer the Simile Is there any of vs hauing a great mans Command in all our needs to come to himselfe giuing his faithfull word and promise to heare our suites requests very readily at any time and none appointed by him to heare suiters when they come but onely himselfe attending mercifully in his owne person for vs in open place without let of any that would goe first to any of his seruants and not forthwith rather to himselfe with all gladnesse I appeale to mens owne hearts in this Lastly this putting of Saints betweene Christ and vs is to make an Intercessor and to hold Saints departed if wee were sure they could heare vs which yet is very vncertaine to bee more louing more tenderly affected toward vs then Iesus Christ himselfe who hath with his owne bloud bought both them and vs. Scriptures obiected that wee may pray to God to haue our Petitions granted in fauour and merit of Saints departed Exod. 32. 13. Remember Abraham Isaac and Israel thy seruants to whom thou swarest c. Answ 1. Here is no merit of Saints vrged Secondly their persons are mentioned by Moses not for their owne worthinesse but for the Couenant which by oath God confirmed to them which Couenant Moses vrgeth not their deserts For Moses speakes of Gods act to them but not a syllable of any thing that they either did or spake note it well 2. Chron. 6. 16. Keepe with thy seruant Dauid my Father that which thou hast promised Answ 1. Here is no word no worke of Dauid remembred and therefore no merit of his vrged Secondly that which Salomon alledgeth in his prayer it Gods promise made vnto Dauid So in 2. Chro. 1. 9. in 1. Chro.
and 8. 20. Â To call vpon the Name of the Lord Gen 4. 26. 21. 23. So in Psal 50. 16. Ioel 1. 14. To eate no blood Genes 9. 4. So in Leuit. 17. 14. Deut. 12 16. To powre out drinke offerings and to offer burnt offerings Gen. 35. 14. and 28. 18. So in Numb 6. 15 17. and 29. 11 16 21. To haue daily burnt offerings Iob 1. 5. So in Numb 28. 3 6. To acknowledge a high Priest Gen. 14. 18. So in Leuit. 8. 6. and 21. 10. To pay tithes Gen. 28. 22. and 14. 20. So in Leuit. 27. 30. To preach and prophecie Iude vers 14. 1. Pet. 3. 19 20. 2. Pet. 2. 5. and to teach the people So in Deut. 33 10. Leuit. 10. 11. Ier. 1. 17. Ezech. 3. 4. Malach. 2. 7. To enquire of God Genes 25. 22. So in 2. King 13. 11. and 22. 13. To make vowes vnto God Genes 28. 20. So in Numb 30. 2 3. Deut 12. 25. To keepe feasts vnto God Exod. 5. 1. So in Leuit. 23. 4. To know the Couenant of God with them Genes 15. 18 17. 2. 8. 21 22 9. 11. So in Deut. 5. 2. To know the promised seed Gen. 3. 15. and 22. 18. and the Messiah Ioh. 8. 56. Gal. 3. 16. Luk. 1. 55. So in Deut. 18. 15 18. Isai 11. 1. and 6. 10. Ioh. 12. 41. To haue faith in comming to God and offering sacrifice Heb. 11. 4. So in 2. Chron. 20. 20. To be iustified and accounted righteous by faith Gen. 15. 6. Rom. 4. 3. So in Hab. 2. 4. To receiue the Sacraments as first Circumcision Gen. 17. 10. then the Passeouer Exodus 12. So afterwards in Iosh 5. 2. Deut. 16. 1. To be vpright-hearted and to walke with God Gen. 15. 22. and 6. 9. and 17. 2. to feare God and to eschew euill Iob 1. 1. So in Deut. 18. 13. Iosh 24. 14. 2. Kin. 20. 3. Eccles 12. 13. To know the commandements of God and to teach others the same Gen. 18. 19. So in Exod. 20. Deut. 5. and 4. 9. and 6. 7. and 11. 19. Lastly Abraham had a charge from God Commandements Statutes and Lawes which he kept Gen. 26. 5. So the Israelites had a charge from God Commandements Statutes and Lawes as Moses and Prophets Psalmes euery where teach Thus we see that what was first by tradition was afterward particularly written and so the vnwritten Word was the same with the written First also before the Word was written with pen and ink the whole moral law written in the hart was to be obserued as may be shewed in the books of Genesis Exod. and Iob as well as the ceremoniall Law and the Sacraments Sacrifices and other parts of Gods worship before mentioned all which afterward were written in books Therefore the traditionall Word before the Law written helps nothing for a traditional Word now seeing God would haue that same written afterwards whereby of a traditionall Word it became the written Word of God Secondly in the time of Moses God spake to him and hee to the people but it is said that Moses wrote all the words of the Lord Exod. 24. 4. Deut. 31. 9 19 24. The Prophets also spake first by word of mouth which were for the most part interpretations and more speciall applications of the Word already written by Moses which also were after written as the bookes extant doe witnesse Thirdly In the time of Christ and his Apostles they taught by word of mouth the Word of God but their Word was not then an vnwritten Word For first Christ taught out of the Scriptures of Moses of the Prophets Psalmes as his interpreting Luk. 24. of them citing them and confuting the aduersaries by them doe shew he therefore taught the written Word And what he himself either did or farther spake in all necessary things touching his life and doctrine they are now written by the Euangelists Luk. 1. 1 5. Act. 1. 1. So in like manner the Apostles before they wrote taught not an vnwritten Word but the Word and Gospell Acts 8. 25. and this same written in the Scriptures of the Prophets Rom. 1. 1 2. and 16. 26. Act. 26. 22. and 28. 23. According as Saint Ierome saith Whatsoeuer the Apostles preached In Mat. 13. in the Gospell they preached it by the words of the Law and the Prophets For if they had preached any thing not in the Scriptures it had been in vaine for the Bereans to haue searched the Scriptures daily to see whether those things which they had heard of them were so or no Acts 17. 11. It is cleare therefore that they taught a written Word and what they receiued from Christ and taught for the effect and vse thereof they also afterward did write as may bee gathered from these insuing places of Scripture In Rom. 15. 15. the Apostle wrote putting them in mind to wit of that which had been taught them by word of mouth In 1. Cor. 11. 23. he telleth them that he deliuered by word of mouth that which he had receiued of the Lord then hee writeth downe in the same verse and the rest following that which he had receiued In 1. Cor. 15. 1. he telleth them that now by writing he declared vnto them the Gospell which hee had preached and which they had receiued so that he wrote that which before he had taught them In 2. Cor. 1. 13. he saith that hee wrote none other things vnto them then that which they did reade or did acknowledge In Phil. 3. 1. he wrote the same things to wit which hee had preached it not being to him grieuous and to them safe In 2. Thes 2. 5. he saith Remember yee not that when I was with you I told you these things to wit which hee then in that Epistle wrote he wrote then what by mouth hee had taught And howsoeuer in the verse 15. of this Chapter he mentioneth Traditions yet those were such as were then by him written there the word traditions is equally and alike referred to word and epistle as if he had said If that I deliuered by word bee forgotten yet haue you now my Epistle to keepe them in your mind and therefore in vers 5. he saith Remember yee not hauing written downe in vers 3. and 4 what he before had told them and so in vers 6. proceeding to set downe the traditions before deliuered vnto vers 13. Then writeth hee to them to stand fast and keepe the traditions taught by word before or by his epistle now as being all one and the same deliuered now both by word and writing In 2. Thes 3. 6. he there also makes mention of tradition but what of a tradition vnwritten Yes before it was written but now Paul wrote it as you may reade in vers 10. where hee telleth vs particularly what it was In 2. Pet. 1. 12. Saint Peter endeuours to put them alwaies in remembrance that they might after his decease keepe in
mind alwaies the things which they knew and the truth wherein they were settled to wit by his and others preaching Now if he wrote not these things they could not so well remember them after his departure And did Peter care onely for those present or for Gods Church after If he did then surely he so wrote to remember those present of that which they had learned as the same might also instruct others in the same truth such as should afterwards liue and had neuer heard him by word of mouth In 2. Pet. 3. 1 2. Here Saint Peter telleth them what was the end of writing both his Epistles to wit to remember them and to mind them of two things first of the words which were spoken by the Prophets and then of the Commandements of the Apostles he therefore wrote these In 1. Ioh. 4. 13. Saint Iohn writes of Antichrist of whom before they had heard and in Chap. 1. 3. he writeth what he had seene and taught before S. Iude he writeth what they to whom he sends his Epistle before knew and had bin preached by the Apostles v. 15. 17. 18. Saint Luke writes those things which were deliuered by word of mouth for the more certaintie of the things taught Luk. 1. 2 3 4. euen of all that Christ began to doe and to speake vnto his Ascension Act. 1. 1. By all these places it is cleare that what was first taught was afterwards written and our aduersaries cannot shew any necessary point of faith or of good life left out of the written Word which as a point of doctrine before was deliuered by tradition for the Churches necessary instruction from the worlds beginning To this the ancient Fathers giue witnesse Irenaeus lib. 3. cap. 1. The Apostles preached the Gospell and afterwards by the wil of God they deliuered it vnto vs in Scriptures to be the pillar and ground of our faith Saint Ierome on Phil. 3. saith that Saint Paul wrote that is made rehearsall of the same things which he when he was present with them had told them by mouth Theophylact on Luke chap. 1. speakes in Lukes person and saith I instructed thee before without writing now I deliuer vnto thee a written Gospell that thou mayest not forget those things which were deliuered without writing Nicephorus lib. 2. cap. 34. saith that what Saint Paul in presence plainely taught by mouth the same things afterward in absence he called to their minds by his Epistle And that this was not but by Gods commandement S. Austine de consens Euangel lib. 1. cap. 35. witnesseth When the Disciples wrote saith he what Christ shewed and said vnto them wee may not say that he did not write for the members wrote that which they learned by the inditing of the head For whatsoeuer hee would haue vs to reade of the things which he did and said he gaue it in charge to them as his hands to write the same So that we may conclude that true which Saint Paul wrote to Timothy 2. Tim. 3. 16. both of all the old Testament as also of all the new and particularly of that very same place it selfe when hee had written it which is that all Scripture is of diuine inspiration seeing he also wrote by diuine instinct and by Christs commandement and made this attribute of diuinely-inspired to be a property of the Scriptures and so all necessarie things being written which were taught we must acknowledge the Word of God to bee found now onely in the holy Scriptures and not elsewhere And therefore may it be necessarily concluded from the premises and more fully also in the next immediately ensuing questions touching holy Scripture that the onely Rule of our faith is the holy Scriptures We are therefore to be guided by them in matter of faith and religion and not by that which seemeth right in our owne eyes Deu. 12. 8. Numb 15. 39. for there is a way which seemeth right to a man but the end thereof leadeth to death Pro. 14. 12. Not by our owne hearts Ezech. 13. 2. for mans heart is deceitfull aboue all things and desperately wicked Ier. 17. 9. Not by the will of man 2. Pet. 1. 21. for it is peruerse and crooked Not by humane wisedome though faire in shew Col. 2 23. for mans wisdome is enmity with God Rom. 8. 7. and the wisdome which is not from aboue is earthly sensuall and diuelish Iam. 3. 15. Not by our owne spirit Ezech. 13. 3. for we know not of what spirit we are Luk. 9. 55. Not by any priuate interpretation 2. Pet. 1. 20. for this is after man and not from holy Scripture which is not of any priuate interpretation but after the guiding of the holy Spirit 2. Pet 1. 20 21. Not by a pretended reuelation or spirit 2. Thes 2. 2. for this hath deceiued 2. Thes 2. 3. 1. King 22. 23. Not by the commandements nor doctrines of men Col. 2. 2. Mat. 7. 7. for such worship as is performed to God on such grounds is vaine Mat. 15. 18. Mark 7. 8. and God reiecteth it threatning to punish the same with losse of wisdome and vnderstanding Esay 29. 13 14. Not by traditions though receiued from our fathers 1. Pet. 1. 18. for with such deceits false Teachers deceiued the people euen in the Apostles dayes Acts 15. 24. 2. Thes 2 2. Not by writings of men as if Apostolical 2. Thes 2. 2. for so the deceiuets in S. Pauls time sought to beguile the people as this place witnesseth Not by statutes iudgements or examples of our forefathers Ezech. 20. 18. for their hearts might not be aright Psal 78. 8 37 57. Not by custome Leuit. 18. 3. for it may be vaine Ier. 10. 3. and idolatrous 2. King 17. 33 40. And custome which God approueth is that which is kept as it is written a custome obserued from the written Word Esd 3. 4. Not by number and multitude Exo. 23. 2. for here we see they may doe ill and examples in Scripture shew that multitudes haue erred when the fewer haue had the truth Not by the bare credit of any one teaching otherwise then wee haue receiued from the Word Saint Paul in this respect forbids to credit Man or Angell Gal. 1. 7 8. and an old Prophet seduced a young Prophet to his destruction 1. King 13. and that vnder pretended authoritie of an Angell vers 18. 24. Not by any rising from the dead much lesse by supposed apparitions seeming to bee of such as were dead Luk. 16. 31. for this the Lord allowed not of as a sufficient meanes to instruct wee are to be sent to the written Word to Moses and to the Prophets Not by signes and wonders or foreshewing things to come for these may false teachers doe Deut. 13. 1 2. by the power of Satan 2. Thes 2. 9. Reuel 13. 13. deceiuing the people Reuel 19. 20. Not by vaine and falsely so called Philosophy Col. 2. 8. or oppositions of Sciences falsely so
called 1. Tim. 6. 20. for these be vaine and deceitfull None of these are sufficient to leade vs but we are to be ruled by the written Word The Errors of our time The Romanists maintaine these insuing Propositions I. Proposition That the holy Scriptures are not in all matters necessarie to saluation the onely rule of our faith and life Confuted by their owne English Bible THeir Bible teacheth that there is a Rule Rom. 12. 6. Gal. 6. 16. This Rule one and the same Phil. 3. 16. Now that this Rule is the holy Scriptures which is the written Word of God it is cleare by the same Bible I. It maketh the Word written to bee the rule and guide in matters of controuersie Deut 17 11. In this place the Priests and Iudges are bound to proceed according to the Law But that Law was written in a booke called The booke of the Law of the Lord which the Priests and Leuites had with them in Iehosophats dayes to teach the people 2. Chron. 17. 9. Bellarmine lib. de Verbo Dei cap 2. saith on this place Holy Moses teacheth here that controuersies arising among Gods people are to bee iudged according to the Law II. Their Bible teacheth that God vrgeth To the Law and to the testimony which is written as aforesaid and condemneth them that speake not according to this Word Esay 8. 20. III. By it we are taught that the Church is straightly charged to keepe to the written Word as in Iosh 23. 6. Onely take courage and be carefull that you keepe all things which be written in the volume of the Law of Moses and decline not from them neither to the right hand nor to the left Iosh 1 8. Let not the volume of this Law depart from thy mouth but thou shalt meditate in it dayes and nights that thou mayst keepe and doe all things that bee written in it Is not this testimony cleare What can be spoken more plainely These places vrge to keepe to the written Word and withal not to decline from it S. Paul hauing spoken against diuision schisme and syding with teachers in the Church of Corinth some of them holding of one some of another to remedy this euill he warnes them not to be puffed vp one against another aboue that which is written 1. Cor. 4. 6. To these places may be added Deut. 30. 10. The Lord promised great blessings vnto Israel with this annexed condition saying If thou heare the voyce of thy Lord thy God and keepe his precepts where their obedience is commanded and his voyce made the rule thereof Now lest they should doubt where to find this his voyce and these his precepts Moses addeth these words which are written in this Law which Law he wrote and commanded the same to bee read before all Israel for this end to learne to feare the Lord and to fulfill all his words in that Law Deut. 31. 9 12. yea a curse is denounced against such as keepe not to the Written Word Deut. 27. 26. Gal. 1. 10. and a plague is threatned for not obseruing the same Deut. 28. 58. Hence is it that we shall find the prayses of holy men very often in Scripture That they did according as it was written 2. Chron. 35. 12. they couenanted that they would doethe things that were written 2. Chron. 34. 31. See out of their owne Bible more for this 2. Chr. 23. 18. 1. Esdr 3. 2. 4. and 6. 18. 2. Esdr 8. 14 15. and 10. 34 36. 4 King 23. 21. 3. King 2. 3. 2. King 1. 18. And not to doe as was written was a sinne for which they were to humble themselues and beg pardon of God 2. Chron. 30. 6 18. 1. By their owne Bible we learne that Iesus Christ the chiefe Shepheard and Bishop of our soules did nothing regard traditions he neuer named them but with dislike but aduanced very highly the dignitie of the Scriptures as the only and alone rule and meanes of our instruction in all things necessary to eternall life for thus their Bible telleth vs 1. That hee tooke for the ground of his teaching Scripture Luk. 4. 17. but wee reade not any where that hee taught vpon tradition 2. That he interpreted the Scriptures and out of them taught the things concerning himselfe Luk. 24. 27. not for traditions nor any thing out of them 3. That he opened the vnderstanding of his Disciples that they might vnderstand the Scriptures Luk. 24. 25. Hee neuer did so concerning traditions 4. That he often cited the Scriptures Mark 7. 6 10. Matth. 9. 13. and 12 3. and 13. 14. and in many other places but neuer traditions 5. That he exhorteth to the searching of the Scriptures Ioh. 5. 39. but neuer to the searching of traditions 6. That hee cleared the Scriptures from abuse and corrupt expositions Mat. 5. 21 22 27 28 33. 24. 25 36 37 38 39. c. but neuer traditions 7. That he vsed the Scriptures in disputing with Satan Mat. 4. and in confuting his aduersaries Mat. 22. 31. and 19. 4. Luk. 10 26. neuer traditions 8. That he defended his owne doctrine and his manner of teaching by the Scriptures Mat. 13. 10 15. and also the act of his Disciples in plucking eares of corne Mat. 12. 3 4 5. but neuer by traditions 9. That hee tooke care alwayes in euery thing to fulfill the Scriptures Ioh. 12. 14 15 16. Mat. 4. 14. Luk. 24. 44 46. yea so farre as to suffer death to make good the truth of them Matth. 26. 54. Luk. 22. 37. but no such regard had he to traditions 10. That he did oppose Scriptures against traditions Mat. 15. 4. but neuer traditions against Scriptures or for interpretation of Scripture in matter of faith 11. That he preferred the witnesse of Scripture before the witnesse of men Ioh. 5. 34 39 41. yea the power of them for instruction before the voyce of any that should be raised from the dead Luk. 16. 27. neuer so traditions 12. That he put the triall of himselfe to Scriptures so true and sure a Iudge he tooke them to be Ioh. 5. 39. not to traditions IV. Lastly he taught how his owne words could take no place if the written Word were not regarded Ioh. 5. 47. What traditionall word is there then of any mortall man or of all the mortall men in the world which may receiue so much as equall authoritie how much lesse then supreme authoritie ouer the Scriptures V. Their owne Bible teacheth that the Apostles taught not an vnwritten but a written Word for the Gospell was that which they preached but that was written Rom. 1. 1 2. and was made manifest by the Scriptures of the Prophets Rom. 16. 26. Our Sauiour taught his Disciples out of Moses Prophets See Treneus lib. 4. cap. 66 in fine and a little booke intituled The Messiab already come for the particulars and Psalmes Luk. 24. 27. in which bookes his Names his Natures his Offices his Birth where and when and
the Author de dupl mart ca. 42. There is no sicknesse of the soule for which the Scripture doth not afford a present remedy Athanas li. contr Gentes The Scriptures inspired of God are sufficient for all discussing and manifesting of the Truth August Tract 49. in Iohan. They are choise things which haue been written and thought sufficient for the saluation of beleeuers Chrysost hom 41. in Mat. or whosoeuer was that ancient Author Whatsoeuer is required to saluation is all accomplished in the Scripture neither is there any thing wanting there that is needfull for mans saluation Cyril lib. 12. in Iohan. in ca. 20. 31. Such things as the Apostle saw sufficient for our Faith and manners are written Hilar. li. 2. de Trinit speaking of Gods Booke What is there concerning mans saluation that is not contained therein What doth it want or what is there obscure in it All things are there full and perfect as being of him that is full and perfect Vincentius Lyrin yeeldeth the Canon of the Scriptures to be perfect and in it selfe aboundantly sufficient for all matters Thus we see how the Ancients ran vpon the perfection of the Scriptures and doe not vilifie them putting vpon them imperfectnesse and insufficiency as our Aduersaries very wickedly doe to get way hereby to their owne inuentions Gainesaid by the learned on their owne side Antoninus Archbishop of Florence God hath spoken but In sum part 3. tit 18. cap. 3. once and that in the holy Scriptures so fully to all doubts and cases and to all good workes that he needeth speake no more Scotus in 1. Sent. q. 2. The holy Scripture is all true necessarie and sufficient for him that walketh here below to bring him to saluation in all that concerneth beleeuing hoping and doing Gerson in serm in die Circum Dom. consul 1. The sacred Scripture is sufficient Caictan in Deut. 4. 2. willeth vs to gather from it that the Law of God is perfect Yea on 2. Tim. 3. saith he It s proper to the holy Scripture to teach the ignorant that he may bee perfect in all things Lyra on Ioh 20. 3. acknowledgeth the sufficiency of the Scriptures in respect of Christs excellencie in worke and doctrine Trithemius the Abbat li. 8. quaest ad Maximil Caesar q. 4. It is necessary that we hold the Scriptures perfect in all things and we must beleeue that they be true right entire sound diuinely-inspired and aboundantly sufficient to confirme the Christian Faith Villa-Vincentius de rat stud Theol. li. 1. ca. 3. The Scriptures and they alone are able to teach vs to saluation And he groundeth his assertion on 2. Tim. 3. 16 17. In which words saith hee the Apostle comprehendeth all things that are necessary to saluation Canus loc theol li. 7. ca. 3. The Canon of the Scripture is perfect and most sufficient of it selfe to euery end Espencaeus on 2. Tim. 3. 15 16. If any thing be needfull to bee knowne or done the Scriptures teach they can instruct a man to saluation and make him sufficiently learned Roffensis Art 37. aduers Luthera pa. 411. The holy Scripture is a store-house of all truths which are needful to be knowne of Christians Bellarm. de Verbo Dei li. 4. ca. 11. All things are written of the Apostles which are necessarie for all and which they openly did preach commonly to all Wee here then see that the Scriptures containe and that sufficiently all the things which be necessary for mans saluation by the many witnesses among the Papists themselues See Doctor * Reply to Fishers answer White pa. 42. producing Anselmus Scotus Gerson Bonauentura Occham Waldensis Gabriel Aquinas Lyra and Durand Here may be brought in against the sufficiency and perfection An Obiection answered of them their common obiection which is that many bookes are lost Let it be so what then This proueth not the insufficiency of these Scriptures for first I haue prooued that they are sufficient to wit these which we haue for of these now wee dispute Secondly the ancient Fathers speeches before are of these and their sufficiency not regarding the Books lost Thirdly of these also doe their owne men speake in their before-cited testimonies though they know well enough this triuiall obiection III. Proposition That the Scriptures be obscure and hard to be vnderstood euen in things necessary THis question is to be vnderstood of all things necessarily to be beleeued and done in the way of saluation For wee doe not say that all and euery thing and all and euery word sentence speech and prophecie in Scripture is plaine and easie to be vnderstood but all the places speaking of matters of faith and good life necessary to saluation are plaine and easie to bee vnderstood and yet not of all men neither but of all such as in humilitie with prayer diligently and constantly reade and heare them hauing a godly purpose and a true indeuour to liue after them for such shall vnderstand these things Prou. 2. 1 5. vers 24 9. Ioh. 7. 17. The question being thus conceiued to say that the Scriptures are to such darke and hard to be vnderstood in such necessarie points of saluation is vntrue Confuted by their owne Bible Psal 18. 18. The testimony of our Lord is faithfull giuing After our Bible Psal 19. wisedome to little ones Vers 9. The precept of our Lord is lightsome illuminating the eyes Psal 118. 105. Thy Word is a lampe to my feete and a light to Psal 119. my paths Vers 130. The declaration of thy words doth illuminate and giues vnderstanding to little ones Prou. 6. 23. The commandement is a lampe and the Law a light 2. Pet. 1. 19. We haue a Propheticall Word most sure which you doe well attending vnto as to a candle shining in a darke place By all these places it is euident that the Scriptures being a light a lampe candle shining lightsome illuminating the eyes and giuing vnderstanding to little ones must be plaine easie and not obscure and dark For if it were how can it be called light how can it be said to enlighten our eyes and be a lampe to our feete And what need haue we to attend to it for direction and guideance in a darke place if it were not a shining light vnto such as attend vnto it Contraried by ancient Fathers Clem. Alex. protrept pa. 25. It is a common light shining to all men there is no obscuritie in it Epiphanius Haeres 69. All things in the Scripture be manifest to them which repaire to them with a religious heart Saint August in Psal 8. God hath bowed downe the Scriptures euen to the capacitie of babes and sucklings And in Epist ad Volus The Scripture like a familiar friend speaketh those plaine things which it conteineth without glosing to the heart of the learned and vnlearned de doct Chr. li. 2. ca. 9. In these things which are set downe plainely in the Scriptures are to bee found
bee Wills Letters Histories or other learned speeches either of humane or diuine matters as the iudicious Readers may and doe collect the Authors true meaning out of them though the Authors themselues be not there to giue their owne meaning And shall wee thinke that the Writings and Scriptures of our God wherein is his Will his Lawes his Histories and other holy Instructions giuen of purpose to teach all in all ages to the worlds end will not afford vs the sense of them out of themselues especially if we doe consider him euer liuing and ayding his humble and godly Readers with his holy Spirit to vnderstand his minde To deny this to Gods Word were to make it herein inferiour to mens writings 2. Their owne Bible sheweth vs that the Scriptures do plainely interpret themselues expounding words Iud. 15. 17. Ramach lechi which is interpreted the lifting vp of the Iaw-bone Iud. 12. 6. Schibboleth which is interpreted an eare of corne So in Mat. 1. 23. Mark 5 4. Ioh. 1. 38 41 42. and 9. 7. Act. 4. 36. and 13. 8. Heb. 5. 4. Thus it expounds its owne words 3. Short sentences as Mark. 15. 34. Eloi Eloi Lamasabachtani which is being interpreted My God my God why hast thou forsaken me So in Dan. 5. 25 26 27. 4. Whole Speeches and Parables as Mat. 13. the Parable in vers 3. to the 9. is expounded in vers 18. to 23. so the Parable in vers 24. to 30. is expounded in vers 37. to 42. 5. Visions and Dreames Prophesies of things to come as in Gen. 40. 9 12 13. 16. 19. 41. 2 8. 25. 32. Ier. 24. 1 3. 5. 8. Dan. 4. 16. 27. so in the 8. Chapter and in other Prophets yea in the Reuelation the words and things in it are in many places interpreted verie plainely as in Chap. 1. 12 20. 17. 1 15. verse 3 9 10 18. and 4. 5. and 5. 6. and 19. 8. 6. Whole bookes For what is Deuteronomie but an explanation of Exodus and other places of Moses What are the Prophets but interpreters and appliers of Moses to the times places and persons What is the new Testament but a large and cleare Commentarie vpon the old In which was the Gospell Rom. 1. 2. and the mysterie kept secret in a manner but now made manifest by the Scriptures Rom. 16. 25 26. Lastly the Scripture euery where expounds it selfe either the See S. Austin de Verbo Dei ser 49. place considered by it selfe in the full circumstances thereof or by some other being conferred with it The places which might be produced for proofe are infinit Origin on Mat. chap. 13. concerning any necessarie point of controuersies in Christian Religion The Answers of our learned men to their obiected Scriptures against our Tenents may be instance for euidence of these things euen out of their owne Bible See these answers before and the rest following and consider thereof without partialitie Contraried by the Ancients Irenaeus lib. 4. aduers Haeres cap. 63. The most lawfull exposition of the Scriptures and without danger is that which is according to the Scriptures themselues In lib. 2. cap. 46. the Scripture expounds it selfe and suffereth none to erre Hillar lib. 1. de Trinit saith God is a sufficient witnesse for himselfe and who is not to be knowne but by himselfe and further he saith It is vnlawfull to impose a meaning but wee must rather receiue a meaning from holy Scriptures S. August de doct lib. 2. cap. 6. There is almost nothing in these obscurities but in other places one may find it most plainly deliuered And in Ser. 2. de Verb. Dom. he saith that the words of the Gospell carrie their exposition with them Basil Regul contract qu. 267. The things which are doubtfull and seeme to be spoken obscurely are made plaine by those things which are euident in other places Chrysost Hom. 13. in Gen. The holy Scripture expounds it selfe And in Hom. 9. 2. Cor. The Scripture euery where when it speaketh any thing obscurely interpreteth it selfe againe in another place Hieron Com. in Esa cap. 19. It is the manner of Scripture after things obscure to set downe things manifest Ambros in Psal 118. Ser. 8. If thou knocke at the gate of the Scriptures with the hand of thy mind thou shalt gather the reason of the sayings and the gate shall be opened vnto thee and that by none other but by the Word of God And the self-same saith Aug. lib. 2. contra Donatist cap. 6. What can be more fully spoken against this their false Tenent then here is vttered by these Fathers Gainesaid by the learned on their owne side Gerson tract contra assertiones Mag. Ioan. parui The sacred Scripture doth expound her rules by themselues according to the diuers passages of the Scripture Steuchius in Gen. 2. God was neuer so inhumane as to suffer the world in all ages to be tormented with the ignorance of the sense of the Scripture but if we consider it well we may interpret it and for this he citeth Theodoret who saith that the Scripture vseth when it teacheth any high matter to expound it selfe and not to suffer vs to runne into error Iansenius Episc Gandau on Mat. pag. 413. part 2. Christ hath taught to conferre Scripture with Scripture if we will not erre in reading of the Scriptures Acosta the Iesuite lib. 3. de Chro Reuel cap. 21. pag. 479. There is nothing seemeth to me so to open the Scripture as the Scripture it selfe Canus loc Theol. lib. 7. cap. 3. num 13. citeth out of Pope Clement Epist 5. ad discipulos Hier. these words You must not from without seeke a foraine and strange sense but out of the Scriptures themselues receiue the meaning of the truth What Scriptures our Aduersaries haue to obiect against vs and to defend this their falsitie by I find not in the Gagger 1. I know they babble much against a mans priuate spirit and a mans priuate interpretation which we also disallow but Gods Spirit is not any priuate spirit but the publike spirit and the same also in euery member of the Church 1. Cor. 12. neither is the Scriptures interpretation any priuate interpretation though shewed out of a priuate mans mouth according to that of Panormitan in cap. signif Extra de electis In things concerning faith the saying of one priuate man is to be preferred before the words of the Lord Pope if he bring better reasons out of the new and old Testament To which agreeth that of Gerson part 1. de examin doct More credit is to be giuen to a priuate simple man alledging the Gospell then either to the Pope or Councill 2 Also that they alledge how Moses did iudge causes the Priests also and the Leuites and that the people ought to learne of them But this is to be vnderstood as Moses spake from God and as the Priests and Leuites iudged and taught according to the Law
as in the place of Deuteronomie is before answered V. Proposition That the Scriptures are not to be allowed to be read of the people nor heard by them in a knowne tongue Confuted by their owne Bible 1. IT teacheth that the Scriptures were written to all sorts the bookes of Moses to all Israel Deut. 31. 91 9 22 30 32. So the Prophets Psalmes and Historicall bookes and all these were commended to the Churches keeping Rom. 3. 2. Act. 7. 38. We see in the new Testament some bookes written to noble Personages Luk 1. Act 1. to Ladies 2. Ioh. ver 1. to Bishops and Deacons Phil. 1. 1. to Pastors ouer Congregations Reuel 1. 11. and 2. 3. to old men 1. Ioh. 2. 14. to yong men 1. Ioh. 2. 13 14. yea generally to all the Saints Rom 1. 7. 1. Cor. 1 2. As the generall Epistles of Iames Peter Iohn and Iude do witnesse 2. It teacheth that they were written for the benefit and guiding of all sorts for kings Deut. 17 18 19. Iosh 1. 8. for Elders and Magistrates of the people Deut. 31. 9. and for others to make vse of Pro. 1. 4. 3. It teacheth that the reading searching and attending to them was commended to all sorts without any exception Deut. 30. 10. Iosh 23. 6. Ioh. 5 39 2. Pet. 1. 19. Eph. 6. 17. Reuel 1. 3. 4. It teacheth that they were commanded to be read vnto all sorts Deut. 31. 11 12. Ier. 36. 6 10. Col. 4. 16. 1. Thess 5. 27. and so were read to them Exod. 24. 7. Iosh 6. 34 35. Neh. 8. 2 3. and 2. Chron. 34. 30. Act. 13. 15. and 15. 21. 5. It sheweth vs that they were read of all sorts and neuer reproued for any euill in them as of Iosias 2. Chron. 34. 30. of the noble Eunuch Act. 8. 32. of the noble Bereans Act. 17. 11. of godly women as Lois and Eunice trayning vp Timothy from his child-hood therein 2. Tim. 1. 5. with 3. 15. It is cleare therefore by their owne Bible that all and euery one might reade Scriptures that could and would reade them and that without hinderance The Papists are farre from Moses spirit who wished from his heart that all the Lords people could prophesie Num. 11. 29. But they that do euill hate therefore the light and will not permit people to come vnto it lest thereby their deeds be reproued Ioh. 3. 20. Contraried by Antiquitie S. Augustine l. 3. c. 1. de doct Christ A man that feareth God doth diligently enquire after his will in the Scriptures And in Serm. 55. it is not sufficient that ye heare the Diuine Scriptures in the Church but also in your houses either reade them your selues or else desire some other to reade them and giue you diligent eare thereto The Nicene Synod saith Corn. Agrippa lib. de van Scient decreed that no Christian should be without the Bible in his house Chrysost exhorteth men to get the Bible the most wholesome remedie for the soule if not all yet some part to take the holy bookes into their hands before and after meate at home and not in the Church onely Yea he telleth his hearers that to think Gods Word needlesse cōmeth of the deuill the it was as an infecting Pestilence for the people to thinke that it appertained to men of the Church to reade them and not to others whereas he telleth them that it was much more necessarie for them then for the other See for these his speeches at large Hom. 10. on Gen. 29. Hom. 1. on Ioh. Hom. 13. on Mat. Hom. 2. on 2. Thess Hom. 3. S. Ierome on Col. 3. 16. We see heare saith he that lay people should not haue onely knowledge of the Scriptures sufficiently but aboundantly that so one might be able to teach another many of his writings were written to women as to Paula Epist 8. 9. 10. 12. 14. Eustochium Saluina Demetria Furia Celantia and others commending them for their reading and studie of Scriptures Epist ad Laetam yea he instructed one Laeta how she should bring vp her daughter in holy Scriptures to learne the Psalter thē Prouerbs then Ecclesiastes then Iob and so to go to the Gospels after these the Prophets Moses and Historicall bookes He herein was then no Papist S. Basil regul contract q. 95. It is necessarie and consonant to reason that euerie man learne that which is needfull out of the Scriptures whose Nurse one Macrina taught himselfe the Scriptures from a child Bas Epist 74. Theophylact on Eph. 6. Say not saith he that it belongeth Lib. 5 de curand Graec. affect onely to Religious men to reade the Scriptures for it is the dutie of euery Christian and most of all of such as deale in worldly affaires because they being as it were shaken with a tempest haue greater need of spirituall succour And Theodoret writeth of his times that Coblers Smiths Websters and all kind of Artificers all the women not onely such as could reade but See also Euseb lib. 1 cap. 6. de demonstrat Euangel Semsters Maidseruants and waiting-women Citizens Husbandmen Ditchers Neatheards Woodsetters vnderstood the points of faith and could discourse of them What can be more cleare then this that in former ages from the beginning euery one had libertie to reade the Scriptures for their helpe Socrat. lib. 4 cap 33. were they translated into vulgar tongues into all languages For the truth of this see Aug. de doct Chri. lib. 2. cap. 5. Theodoret in his forenamed Booke Beda Hist. lib. 1. cap. 1. Chrysost Hom. 1. in Iohan. Yea do we not know how Lay men for their diuine Knowledge were chosen to be Teachers in the Church Nectarius a Iudge made Bishop of Constantinople Ambrose a deputie Bishop of Millan with other moe Gainesaid by some of themselues The Rhemists though they hold the false Tenent yet in their Preface before their translation cannot denie the Scriptures to haue bene in the vulgar Languages of diuers Nations as in the Armenian the Sclauonian Gothick Italian French English tongue yea in the Languages of almost all the principall Prouinces of the Latine Church of later times The meere Politicke caution and limitation of the Trent Conuenticle was not deuised in former ages that the Scriptures should not be read indifferently of all men but of such as haue licence Licence to reade holy Scripture was not thought of in the Primitiue Church nor many hundred yeeres after The very translation of the Scriptures aforetimes shew that the godly Translators minded to put Gods Bible into all mens hands without any Popes licence Acosta li. 2. de Chron. Reu. ca. 2. pa. 65. is enforced to confesse that our gracious God hath maruerlously prouided in holy Writ that the most rude reading in humilitie may profit thereby and in chap. 5. speaking by experience I haue seene saith he some men vtterly vnlearned and scarce knowing Latine who haue gathered out of Scripture such profound
knowledge that I marueiled at them but the spirituall man iudgeth all things Espencaeus in 2. Tim. 3. pa. 116. testifieth that the Iewes did vse to instruct their children from fiue yeeres old A custome continued till this day So that saith he many Christians may bee ashamed of their negligence which is not onely my complaint saith he but also of the ancient Fathers marueiling that that custome should bee iudged now dangerous and pestiferous which the Ancient so often commended for profitable and wholesome Lorinus on Acts 17. 2. speaking of the Act of the noble Bereans saith That it was no more then Christ commanded when he said Search the Scriptures that is saith he as Chrysostome and Euthymius expound it not onely to reade it but also exactly and diligently to discusse it But I neede not speake more of this for among vs we see many of them take libertie to reade not onely their owne Translations but ours too Their practice then here with vs is against their doctrine and their practice else-where for in other places their doctrine is against reading of Scriptures translated and they also doe not suffer them to be read See plentifull testimonies cited by Doct. White in his Orthodox Faith pag. 47. 48. So they disallow and allow some of one mind some of another here with vs differing from themselues in Papisticall Countries for all is as the Iuggler playes fast or loose for their grand Masters aduantage Obiected Scriptures answered Deut. 10. 5. The two Tables were written by God and put by Moses into the Arke Answ What then Therefore the Scriptures are not to bee common and freely read of all If the putting of the Tables into the Arke might force such a conclusion the Scriptures might not onely bee kept from the people but from the Clergie too for those put into the Arke were neither for Priest nor people to reade But I answere more particularly 1. That these were not all the Scriptures of God although all that God himself did immediately write with his owne finger 2. These commandements in the Tables were also written out by Moses in Exod. 20. and in Deut. 5. which Bookes after were also copied out and so were in the hands of the Priests Princes and people 3. The putting them into the Arke was not that thence man should learne not to meddle with holy Scriptures which none euer dreamed of but these Romists For God commanded to teach them to his people Deut. 6. 1. and they were to instruct their children therein Deut. 6. 7. but they were put into the Arke for other ends 1. To keepe them safe there as a testimony against Israel 2. To learne to keepe them in their heart as they were kept in the Arke 3 Because the Arke was a type of Christ in whom this Law of commandements was written and in whom the Lords people should be accounted obseruers of the same Deut. 31. 9 26. There was but one copie of the Law and it was committed to the Priests of the Leuites to keepe and was hid for a long time till it was found in Iosias dayes 2. King 22. 8. Therefore the Scriptures were not common to all Answ It s true that there was but one originall that was kept but other copies were commanded to bee written out Deut. 17. 18. and the same to be read diligently vers 19. Ioshua had a copie of it Iosh 8. 34. Esdras had so Neh. 8. 2. In Iehosaphats See the Dowaies on Neh. 8. 2. for Copies time a copie was carried vp and downe 2. Chron. 17. 9. Daniel had bookes Dan. 9. 2. Christ telleth vs in the Parable Luk. 15. 29. that they had Moses and the Prophets The Law and Prophets were read in their Synagogues from old time Act. 13. 15. and 15. 21. How also could the Bereans search the Scriptures if they had not had them Act. 17. 11. And S. Paul saith that to the Iewes were committed the Oracles of God Rom. 3. 2. The booke of the Law was written to be read and heard of the people Deut. 31. 11 12. So were also the Prophets writings Ier. 36. 6 10 14 15. and free for any to reade them that could get copies of them as wee may see in the Eunuch Act. 8. 28. By all which it is cleare that the Scriptures were common for all Nehem. 8. Here they would gather that the Scriptures were read in Hebrew and yet the people vnderstood not the language so by certaine words in the Euangelists not Hebrew which were then spoken of the people as Golgotha Mat. 27. 33. Talitha cumi Mark 5. 41. Acheldama in Act. 1. 19. Answ That the Scriptures of the old Testament were in the Hebrew tongue is true but that the people vnderstood not that tongue is as false as the other true for it s said as their own Bible hath it Neh. 8. 3. that Esdras read plainely in the presence of the men and women and of those that vnderstood and the eares of all the people were attent to the Booke vers 8. and they vnderstood when it was read And though they were 70. yeeres in Captiuitie yet had they not lost the knowledge of the Hebrew tongue for many thousands and not a few of note and place which went into captiuitie liued to returne againe Esdras 2. 1 2 3 42 65. and 3. 12. And shall we thinke that these had lost their natiue tongue After their returne they had some strange words mixed with the Hebrew but yet they generally spake the Iewes language Neh. 13. 24. and the Prophets Haggai Zacharie and Malachi wrote in the Hebrew and the people hundreds of yeres after vnderstood the Hebrew tongue when it was spoken Act. 21. 40. and 22. 2. and could reade it written Ioh. 19. 20. yea it was so common that Christ spake Hebrew and in no other Language to Paul from Heauen Act. 26. 14. And as for the words of Christ on the Crosse Matth. 27. 46. which some hearing said He calleth for Eliah if they were spoken of the Iewes they did it in mockage If of the Romane souldiers they being strangers and not vnderstanding him it maketh nothing to the purpose or point in question Ioh. 7. 49. The people which knoweth not the Law are cursed Hence they would gather that the Iewes vnderstood not the Hebrew language in which the Law was written Answ 1. The Pharises arrogated knowledge to themselues and contemned the people for want of knowledge to wit of the sense and meaning of the Law but not of the letters words and language wherein it was written 2. Neither is it true that the people knew not the Law because these enemies of Christ said so no more then that they were cursed because they so said of them in hatred against them for following Christ VI. Proposition That the common libertie for all to reade the Scriptures doth breed heresies Confuted by their owne Bible 1. IT teacheth that the ignorance of the Scripture
is the cause of error Mat. 22. 29. Yee doe erre not knowing the Scriptures Error then is from ignorance of the Scriptures The Apostles doubting of Christs resurrection a maine point of Faith without which all is vaine 1. Cor. 15. is ascribed to their ignorance of the Scriptures for as yet saith their Bible they knew not the Scriptures The Israelites erring in heart so continually is ascribed to the want of knowledge in Gods wayes Psal 94 10 11. These alwaies erre in heart and these haue not knowne my Psal 95. wayes Secondly it telleth vs whence otherwise errors proceed from Philosophy vaine fallacie Col. 2. 9. from humane traditions Whence proceed errors Mark 7. 8. from pretended Apostolicall traditions Acts 15. 24. from pretended reuelations of the Spirit a feigned word and forged writings 2. Thes 2. 2. from Satans strange delusions in the Man of sinne and his followers 2. Thes 2. from lying signes and wonders seducing people Reuel 13. 13 14. 2. Thes 2. 9. from doctrines and commandements of men Col. 2. 22. from vnlearnednesse and vnstablenesse of mens owne selues 2. Pet. 2. 16. from false Teachers Act. 20. 29. Iude vers 4. 2. Pet. 2. 2. Tim. 3. 6. from mens giuing heed to Seducers 1. Tim. 4. 1. and such like meanes God giuing men ouer to beleeue lyes because such haue not a loue of the truth 2. Thes 2. 3. Their Bible cleareth Scriptures from being cause of error for it telleth vs that no lie is of the truth 1. Ioh. 2. 21. Now error in diuine matters is a lye the Scriptures are Gods Word inspired by the holy Ghost 2. Tim. 3. 16. Gods Word is truth Ioh. 17. 17. and therefore no error can arise from it and to reason from abuse to hinder the vse is absurd 4. It telleth vs that the holy Scriptures are the Rule of faith and life as before is prooued and therefore cannot be the cause of error 5. It pronounceth the Readers blessed Reu. 3. 3. How can this be if it breed errors in men 6. It telleth vs that by Scripture Christ confuted Satan the false doctrine of Scribes and Pharises the heresie of the Sadduces so did the Apostles the Iewes Act. 17. 2. and 18. 28. Therefore heresies are ouerthrowne by Scripture and get no ground at all from Scripture Contraried by Antiquitie Chrysost Hom. de Lazar. The ignorance of the Scriptures hath bred heresies In Hom. 58. on Iohn The Scriptures doe leade vs to God doe driue away heretickes and doe not suffer vs to goe out of the way Tertullian de resurr telleth vs that heretickes flie the light of the Scriptures Surely hereby its cleere then that this Father did not beleeue that the Scriptures would make heretikes S. Ierome in Esay c. 8. willeth vs in things doubtfull to haue recourse vnto the Scriptures to know the truth otherwise saith he ye shall not haue the light of truth but remaine euer in darknesse of error Therefore Scriptures expell the mist of errors and doe not breed them in the iudgement of Saint Ierome It is witnessed before by Augustine Chrysostome Tertullian Basil Ierome Gregory-Nyssen that the Scriptures are the sound Rule of Faith therefore cannot they be any ground for error Gainesaid by some of their owne Petrus de Aliaco saith The new Testament is the hammer that killeth all heresies the Lanterne that lighteneth vs. Gerson in tract de distinct The sacred Scriptures are the shop wherein is laid vp the royall stampe of spirituall coine if a penny differs from the stampe neuer so little vndoubtedly its counterfeit It is also witnessed before by Gregory Gerson Clemangis Aliacus Durand Mirandula Aquinas Ferus Villa-Vincentius the Canon law and by Bellarmine that the Scriptures are the Rule of Faith how can they then breed error Our Aduersaries haue here no Scripture against vs for indeed the Scripture speaketh for it selfe and not against it selfe But Papists will here say they meane that the Scriptures breed heresies when they are misunderstood or abused or not rightly interpreted Answ If thus they meane in good sooth 1. why blame they the Scriptures when the fault is in men and not in them 2. Why doe not they likewise so accuse all mens writings whose soeuer are not they subiect to be mis-conceiued misunderstood and peruerted 3. Why doe they in this respect feare the Scriptures to breed heresies more in the people then in the Priests Were Arius a Presbyter Macedonius a B. Pelag. a Monke and Eutyches an Abbat they of the Lay-people onely which were the Authors of former heresies or of the Clergie Was Arius was Macedonius was Eutyches Pelagius and other damnable first-broachers of heresies Lay-men No man saith Ierome can frame an heresie but he that is of excellent gifts Gerson and Aeneas Syluius doe De defect viror Eccles 48 Hist Austr 8 52. alleage the same saying of Saint Ierome That there neuer happened any notorious euill in the Church but Priests were the cause thereof Lastly by thus reasoning from the abuse either through ignorance or wilfulnesse in any thing we should disallow euerie thing we should not eate because some gluttonize at meate nor drinke wine nor strong drinke because some thereby become drunke nor weare costly apparell as men of place may because some grow thereby proud nor vse the Arte of Rhetorick because some men abuse it setting their tongues to sale nor Logick for that some peruert it from the right end to iangling Sophistrie Iesus Christ saw how Satan abused Scripture yet he did vse it and exhorted other to search the Scriptures This point of Poperie Christ then knew not nor any of his Apostles VII Proposition That the Scriptures cannot of themselues be knowne to be the Word of God vnlesse the Church doe giue witnesse vnto them that they are so Confuted by their owne Bible 1. IT plainely auoucheth the contrary 1. By teaching that Christs sheepe knew his voice Ioh. 10. 4. 2. That Christ hath promised that such as doe his will shall vnderstand all the doctrine whether it be of God Ioh. 7. 17. 3. That to his Disciples it is giuen to know the Mysteries of the kingdome of heauen Mat. 13. 11. Now the Scriptures inspired of God 2. Tim. 3. 16. are his voice are his doctrine and there are the Mysteries of the Kingdome of heauen euen that great Mysterie opened by the Scriptures Rom. 16. 26. in the Law and Prophets Acts 28. 23. Therefore if Christs sheepe and Disciples can know his Voyce his Doctrine and the Mysteries of the Kingdome of Heauen then they can know the Scriptures to be the Scriptures of God II. It telleth vs by whom and by what we haue this knowledge 1. By the Spirit of God for what things God hath prepared for them that loue him hath he reuealed to vs by his Spirit which we haue receiued that we may know the things that of God are giuen vnto vs 1. Cor. 2. 9. 10 12. Now the Scriptures
are of those things which God hath giuen vnto vs therefore by the Spirit of God can wee know them to be of God And indeed all Scripture being inspired of Gods Spirit who can better informe our knowledge of them then the blessed Inditer and Author of them 2. By the Scriptures themselues which beare witnesse of themselues that they are iustified in themselues Psal 18. 10. that Psal 19. they are all inspired of God 2. Tim. 3. 16. that they are holy Scriptures Rom. 1. 6. the Scriptures of the Prophets Rom. 16. 26. who were guided by the holy Ghost 2. Pet. 1. 20. as also were the Apostles Mat. 10. 20. Mark 13. 11. And Paul telleth vs that he wrote the Commandements of God 1. Cor. 14. 37. III. As their Bible telleth vs that by the Spirit and by the Scriptures themselues we know the Scriptures to be of God so also the same Bible teacheth vs 1. That the testimonie of the Spirit is truth 1. Ioh. 5. 6. and is no lye 1. Ioh. 2. 27. which Spirit of Christ all the Children of God haue Gal. 4. 6. and all that are Christs else they are none of his Rom. 8. 9. 2. That the testimony of the Scriptures are of more credit then the testimony of men for the witnesse of God is greater then men 1. Ioh. 5. 9. And Christ preferred the testimony of the Scriptures before mans testimony yea though a Prophet for he saith he receiued not testimony of man speaking of Iohn Bapt. Ioh. 5. 33 34. and yet he referred himself to the testimony of the Scriptures testifying of him vers 39. Yea he saith that his owne words would not be beleeued if the Scriptures be not belieued ver 47. So that the Scriptures testimony of themselues being the Word of God so the testimony of God are sufficient witnes to take them for the Scriptures of God which whoso refuseth or questioneth the testimony of no men no not of Christ if he were here on earth would be beleeued to make vs to receiue them for Gods Word This their owne Bible doth teach vs. IV. Their Bible doth not onely shew how the Scriptures giue witnesse of themselues thus in generall termes but more particularly informeth vs that the Scriptures doe proue the particular bookes of holy Writ to bee the Word of God Moses witnesseth of his owne writings that he wrote by commandement Deut. 31. 9 19. and what he deliuered was that which was commanded him Exod. 34. 34. All the Prophets witnesse their Prophecies to be of God Esay 1 2. Ier. 1. 2. Ezech. 1. 3. Dan. 10. 1. Hos 1. 1. Ioel 1. 1. Amos 1. 3. Obadiah 1. 1. Ionah 1. 1. Mich. 1. 1. Nah. 1. 1. Hab. 1. 1. Zeph. 1. 1. Hag. 1. 1. Zach. 1. 1. Mal. 1. 1. Iesus Christ gaue approbation to the authoritie of Moses the Prophets and the Psalmes Luk. 24. 26 24. And so the Apostles Act. 26. 22. Rom. 16. 23. not onely in expounding but also by alleaging one where or other some thing out of euery booke as out of Genesis Mat. 23. 35. Act. 7. 3. and 3. 25. Ioh. 4. 5. out of Exodus Mat. 5. 38. and 22. 32. Act. 13. 17 18. Leuiticus Rom. 10. 5. Mat. 5. 38. Numbers Ioh. 3. 14. and 6. 31. Deuteronomy Mat. 4. 4 7. and 5. 31. or 7. 37. Ioshua Act. 7. Heb. 11. 31. Iam. 2. Iudges Act. 13. 20. Heb. 11. 32. Ruth Mat. 1. 2 3 12. Samuel Kings and Chronicles Mat. 1. 2 3 6 7. and 12. 3 42. and 23. 35. Luk. 4. 25 26 27. Act. 13. 21 22. Rom. 11. 3. Heb. 11. 32. Iob Iam. 5. 11. Psalmes the whole book Act. 1. 16 20. and parts thereof Mat. 13. 35. and 21. 16 42. Prouerbs Rom. 12. 26. Iam. 4. 6. Heb. 12. 6. Esay Mat. 21. 5 13. Ioh. 12. 38. Ieremy Mat. 27. 9. Ezechiel 2. Cor. 6. 18. Reuel 4. 7. and 20. 8. Daniel Mat. 24. 15. So might I goe thorow all the small Prophets but that whole booke of the Prophets is approoued Act. 7. 42. And all the Scriptures of the old Testament are called by Saint Paul the words of God Rom. 3. 2. and are confirmed in particular as the rest as Hosea Mat. 9. 13. and 12. 7. Ro. 9. 25 26. Ioel Act. 2. 16. Ionas Mat. 12. 40. Amos Act. 7. 43. Micha Mat. 2. 6. Zacharie Mat. 27. 9. Habacuk Rom. 1. 17. Gal. 3. 11. Nahum Rom. 10. 15. Haggai Heb. 12. 26. Malachy Mat. 17. 11 12. Thus the old Testament beareth witnesse to it selfe and the New also to the Old so doth the Old to the New foreshewing what in the New is reuealed besides the record it beareth of it selfe For Iohn telleth vs that his writings are the truth of God Ioh. 19. 35. Reuel 1. 1. Saint Paul that his are the commandements of God 1. Cor. 14. 37. Saint Peter confirmeth the authoritie of all Pauls Epistles 2. Pet. 3. 16. And thus must we thinke of all the Apostles writings as the diuine truth of God because they were all led by the same Spirit Ioh. 15. 26. into all truth Ioh. 16. 13. which called the words of Christ to their remembrance Ioh. 14. 26. which Spirit Christ gaue them and they had receiued Ioh. 17. 8. Neither is it to be doubted but as their words in their Ministerie were the words of God Mat. 10. 20. Mark 13. 11. so were their words written of God also seeing they wrote what they taught as these places shew Luk. 1. 1 3 4. Act. 1. 1. 1. Cor. 15. 1. 2. Cor. 1. 13. Phil. 3. 1. 2. Thes 2. 5. and as before is prooued at large V. Their owne Bible telleth vs that the Word is a lampe and a light Psal 118. 105. 2. Pet. 1. 19. This is spoken of the written 〈◊〉 11 9. Word Now a lampe and a light need no man to point to them that hath eyes to see if the same be before them but they shew themselues to such clearely enough euen so doth the light of Gods Word in Scripture shew it selfe Gods workes shew themselues to be his workes out of themselues Act. 14. 16. He lest not himselfe without testimony Rom. 1. 20. Psal 18. 1. His Psal 19. workes shew him and shew themselues to be his and shall not Gods Word shew it selfe to be Gods Word Is there to a godly man a lesse print of the Deitie in his Word to discerne it then in a very naturall man to discerne his workes Moreouer shall the writings of men discouer their Authors of what profession and learning they be and shall not Gods Word be able to shew it selfe to bee of God For let one man write like an Artist another as a Philosopher the third as a Moralist the fourth as a Statist the fifth as a Diuine No man that is an Artist a Philosopher a Moralist a Statist or Diuine but hee can discerne of all these writings distinctly though hee haue not some to tell him what they bee So let
formall obiect of Faith and of infinit force and abilitie to perswade immediately by it selfe without the helpe of any formall inducement whatsoeuer Stapleton saith That all the former writings of the Bible may Defens Eccl. Autho. lib. 1. cap 9. Tripl incoat Aduers Wâ—itak in admonit be assured to vs by the latter the old Testament by the new and the inward Testimonie of the Spirit is so effectual for the beleeuing of any point of faith that by it alone any part may be beleeued though the Church hold her peace and neuer be heard Note this saying well you Papists that perswade your selues that the Scripture is not Scripture to you but because the Church tels you so They haue no Scripture for defence of this their Position to S. N. Guide of Faith chap. 7. num 2. and 3. obiect against vs. Atheisticall obiections some haue made as if they would vphold the Turkish Alcoran vnworthy any Christian and no more worthy any answer then the blasphemie of Rabshekah 2. King 18 36. against which King Hezekias commandement was Answer him not a word Esa 36. 21. VIII Proposition That traditions which they call the vnwritten word are the Rule of Faith Confuted by their owne Bible I. IT hath beene proued before that the word deliuered by mouth both before and vnder the Law and after till the new Testament was written in all substantiall and necessarie points of faith is now either expresly set downe or by a necessarie conclusion comprehended in the Scriptures II. That therefore the Scriptures are the onely Rule of Faith which before also is fully proued III. Their owne Bible in many places diuers wayes doth condemne traditions 1. In calling them traditions of men Col. 2. 8. of Fathers 1. Pet. 1. 18. your traditions that is the traditions of Scribes and Pharises Mat. 15. 1 3. commandements and doctrine of men Mat. 15. 9. Rudiments of the world Col. 2. 8 20. not calling them the tradition doctrines and commandements of God or his Word or the word of his Prophets any where 2. In declaring to vs that the worship which is after such traditions is a vaine worship Mat. 15. 9. and but a shew of wisedome in superstition Col. 2. 23. and that the conuersation also which is after Fathers tradition is but vaine 1. Pet. 1. 18. So as we see traditions may not be either a Rule of worship or of conuersation of life 3. In setting downe the euils which haue come to the Church and true Religion of God by such traditions Their Bible telleth vs that for traditions the Commandements of God were left transgressed made frustrate and his Word defeated Mat. 15. 3. Mar. 7. 8 9 13. It was tradition by which the Scribes and Pharises had diminished the integritie of the Law taken from it added to it and corrupted the meaning thereof which Christ freed it from Mat. 5. 18 20 22 23 28 29 34 35. It was a pretended Apostolicall word which first greatly troubled the Church of Antioch and was the cause of gathering the Councell at Ierusalem to confute and condemne the same Act. 15. 1 2 5 6 23 24. The decrees thereof were written the Epistle sent abroad vers 30. 31. and so they had a written Word to strengthen them against that traditionall corrupt and counterfeit Word Lastly it was a pretended Apostolicall word which troubled the Thessalonians 2. Thess 2. 2. which by his Epistle and so by the written Word was confuted If I should adde out of Storie to this out of Scripture what euils haue hereby happened to the Church in and among Hereticks who vsed traditions to defend their Heresies in and Irenaeus l. 5. c. 66. l. c. 13. â—ert de praescript Epiphan de Haeres l. 1. c. 23. 24 38. among the Fathers misse-led and misleading others by false traditions whereby some of them became Chiliasts and now in and among the Papists who vnder the colour of traditions fill the world full of their inuentions superstitions and Idolatries I should be ouer-long and so proue tedious But let the desirous Reader peruse D. Whitakers De traditionibus 4. In teaching vs that the Apostle giueth the Church warning not to be deceiued by word by Philosophie by vaine fallacie according to mens traditions 2. Thess 2. 1 2 3. Col. 2. 8. Contraried by Antiquitie Iustine in Triphonem If we will be safe in all things we must flie to the Scriptures we must beleeue God onely and rest only vpon his institutions and not on mens traditions Irenaeus li. 3. ca. 13. saith of the Apostles that what they preached by mouth they left vs in writing to bee the pillar and ground-worke of our Faith Tertul. de praescrip It were a folly to thinke that the Apostles knew all things but reuealed the same to few deliuering some things openly to all reseruing some other things to be spoken in secret to some What can more plainely be deliuered contradictorie to Papists and to taxe them of folly and falshood in this point Theoph. Alexand. in 2. Paschali It is a diuelish spirit to thinke any thing diuine besides the Authoritie of the holy Scriptures Basil in serm de fide It is a manifest defection from the faith to bring in any thing that is not written When he vttered this did he dreame of a traditionall word Ierome in Hag. cap. 1. All traditions pretended to be Apostolike if they haue not their authoritie from the Scriptures are cut off by the Sword of God Nazianzen in Epimedio Athanasij calleth this vnwritten word An inuocation and opposite to written Pietie See further Tertul. Origen Hippolytus Athanasius Ambrose Basil Greg. Nissene Ierome Augustine Cyril of Alexan. S. Antonie and Theodoret cited by Bishop Vsher in his last booke in the Controuersie of traditions Gainesaid by some of themselues This is to be seene in the words of Gregory Gerson Petrus See question the first before de Aliaco Clemangis Durandus Picus-Mirandula Aquinas Ferus and other auouching the whole Scriptures to bee the Rule of faith Also of Antoninus Scotus Gerson Trithemius Villa-Vincentius Caictan Lyra and other who maintaine that the the Scriptures be perfect and sufficient euery way their words See question the second before are cyted before and so doe gainesay this traditionall word Obiections out of the Scriptures answered 2. Thes 2. 15. Stand fast and hold the traditions which ye haue beene taught whether by word or by our Epistle Answ This place though in shew at the first sight may seeme to helpe them yet considering well what they in the Question vnderstand by traditions it helpes them nothing at all 1. Traditions here are such as all the Thessalonians receiued and which the Apostles had taught to them all but traditions which the Papists maintain are certaine secret traditions deliuered not to all but to some sorts of men for the better guiding of the Church Therefore these traditions here are not those these being common to all
no good Acts 16. 4. They deliuered vnto them the Decrees which chap. 15. 28. were decreed by the Apostles Answ What of all this The Decrees were written The Apostles wrote letters Acts 15. 23. and the Epistle was sent vers 30. and read with comfort vers 31. Here is then no traditionary vnwritten word Thus we may see how their traditionall word vnwritten is confuted by their owne Bible and hath no footing at all in holy Scripture IX Proposition That the present Churches determination is the absolute vnquestionable Rule of the peoples Faith on which they are to rest beleeuing their Teachers without farther enquirie Confuted by their owne Bible ROm. 12. 6. Prophesie according to the Rule of Faith Here is a gift bestowed vpon the Church which is Prophesie expounded by the Rhemists to be the interpretation of the Scriptures Then here is mention of a Rule according to which they that haue the gift of interpretation are to expound Where we see the Churches action and the rule to be two distinct things Phil. 3. 16. Let vs continue in the same rule Here in the word vs is to be vnderstood the Church in the word continue the Churches dutie Here is also mention of the Rule a thing distinct from the Church Gal. 6. 16. And whosoeuer shall follow this Rule peace be vpon them and mercy and vpon the Israel of God The Church is here the Israel of God The Rule is that which she and all that looke for peace and mercy must follow The Church therefore and the Rule are two distinct things In Gen. 26. 5. Abraham is commended for his obedience he and his were the Church But what was now the Rule Euen the Voyce of God his Charge Commandements Statutes and Lawes These places sufficiently teach that the Rule and the Church are two things The Rule being that according to which she is to be ruled in teaching and liuing Yea so farre is the practice custome and voyce of the Church speaking onely from her selfe from hauing the honour to be a Rule in necessary points to saluation as shee hath not absolute vnlimited authoritie in matters of any inferiour kind but therein is tied to certaine obseruances as these Scriptures teach 1. Cor. 6. 12. and 8. 13. and 10. 32. Rom. 14. 19. 1. Cor. 9. 19 22. and 14. 14. and 10. 31. Contraried by Antiquitie See before in the first question Ierome Basil Tertullian Chrysostome Austin Greg. Nyssen Isi dorus Pelusiota and Cyril of Hieros who make a difference betweene the Rule and the Church affirming the Scriptures to be that Rule and the same the Churches limits out of which she may not goe Gainesayd by their owne men See also in the same question twelue or thirteene testimonies from among themselues that the Scriptures are the Rule and therefore not the Church which is to bee ruled by the Scriptures The Scriptures obiected answered Matth. 23. 2 3. Vpon the Chaire of Moses haue sitten the Scribes and Pharises all things therefore whatsoeuer they shall say to you that obserue and doe yee Answ The scope is not to tye men to whatsoeuer they should teach without any exception but to take away the scandall of their ill liues that they might not offend the hearers when they taught that which was right and good This is euident by the reason added But according to their workes doe ye not for they say and doe not That in euery thing they taught they were not to be heard it is cleare 1. If we consider the ground of the speech in the word therfore that is for that they had sitten in Moses Chaire what is that Let the Papists tell vs who say To sit in Moses chaire is Gloss in Mat. 23. 2. Gorham ibid. Arias Montan. elucid on the same to teach according to the doctrine and Rule of Moses Law and to command things agreeable thereunto And so say the ancient Fathers Cyril Catech. 12. The Chaire of Moses is the power of doctrine Origen Hom. 24. on Matth. They sit in Moses Chaire which interpret Moses sayings well they sate well that vnderstood the Law So Theophylact on Mat. 23. They sit in Moses Chaire that teach the things that are in the Law with this consideration then they are to be heard and not otherwise 2. It is manifest that Christs words cannot be taken without restriction because in this same Chapter he calleth them foolish blind guides and taxeth them for false doctrine ver 16 22. shutting the kingdome of heauen before men ver 13. labouring to get a Proselyte and then to make him the child of hell double more then themselues ver 15 He also calleth them Hypocrites Serpents Vipers brood ver 33. denouncing many woes against them and foretelleth how they should scourge persecute kill and crucifie such faithfull Teachers as he should send amongst them ver 33. These things duly considered is it any way likely that Christ should speake without limitation and will them to do whatsoeuer such should teach whom First he calleth foolish Blind-guides Hypocrites Serpents Vipers-brood and persecuters of faithfull men Secondly whom before he had confuted for their foule corrupt glosses and vaine traditions by which they haue broken the Commandements of God and made them of none effect Mat. 5. 43 44. and 15. 11 14. Mark 7. Thirdly whom he plainely gaue his hearers a Caueat to take heede of touching their leauen Mat. 16. 6. that is their doctrine vers 12. Fourthly Christ in so an vnlimited speech should haue ouerthrowne his Doctrine and so his owne heauenly Kingdom for then the people should haue taken him for a deceiuer for a companion of Publicanes and sinners for one that had a diuell in him and for such a one as had cast out diuels by Belzebub the chiefe of the Deuils all which they broached yea and in a full Counsell condemned Christ for a wicked blasphemer 3 If this speech had been to be vnderstood without limitation why did the Apostle refuse afterwards to obserue and doe what these sitting in Counsell commanded them Act. 4. 18 19. 5. 28. 4. And lastly Papists themselues on this place doe comment Iansenius Em. Sa. on this place Barradut Maldonat Canus loc l. 5. c. 4. Ferus on this place thus This place bindeth not vs to obey them if they teach that which is euill for that is to teach against the chaire All things are here meant which are not against the Law and Commandements of God All things keepe saith another when the Scribes and Pharises doe recite explaine teach and propound them This place therefore is rather for the Authority of holy Scriptures and nothing at all to establish mens doctrine contrary or beside Scripture Luk. 10. 16. He that heareth you heareth me and hee that despiseth you despiseth me and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me Answ These words are not to be vnderstood as spoken absolutely that whatsoeuer the seuenty Disciples to
and Erasmus yea Alphonsus de Castro holdeth De haeres li. 1. cap. 4. De certitud Grae. assert 13. them impudent flatterers which say otherwise And Catharinus giueth this reason because the holy Ghost doth not alway and in euery worke assist him They which flatter the Pope hold that he may erre First as a man Secondly as a priuate Doctor so Gregory de Valentia Analys li. 8. on Gal. 2. ca. 7. diuis 5. pa. 355. and this saith Salmeron is a common opinion Thirdly as a Bishop so Hart yeelds it in his conference with Doctor Raynolds Fourthly as Pope in a matter of fact so acknowledgeth Bellarmine Li. 4. de P. Rom. cap. 12. Fifthly as Pope in discoursing about matters of Faith his reasons may not bee apt nor necessary and it is not worth the labour to rippe them vp to the quicke or to rest in them Thus writes Canus and Stapleton In arguing he may bee deceiued Loc. Theol. l. 6. cap. 8. princ doct l. 8. ca. 14. 15. and erre Onely they hold that hee cannot erre in the conclusion How likely is this What wise man will beleeue it 2. Martin the fifth consented with the Councell of Basil and Constance that the Pope might erre But Eugenius the fourth with the Councell of Ferrara and Florence held the contrary The one side must needes erre 3. The Papists doe not rest in shewing full obedience to the Popes decrees which argueth that they beleeue not all things to be infallible truths which they decree As for example The Pope in the Councell of Trent decreed the Apocrypha bookes to be canonicall and yet since then Driedo Sigonius De Script Dogm Eccle. li. 1 〈◊〉 lt Comment in Seu 〈…〉 Bibl 〈…〉 4. 44. De a 〈◊〉 li. â— ca. 7. Loc li. 11. ca. 5. pag. 3â—1 Digres 26. sect 7. pa. 169. and Sixtus Senensis haue questioned and reâ—ected them He also there decreed that the Latin vulgar translation should bee authenticall and in all publike readings disputations preachings and expositions so vsed and none vnder what pretence soeuer to reiect it Yet Galatinus and Canus are bold to taxe it of corruption If any desire more particulars of the Popes decrees in Councels and yet how Papists doe vary from the same reade Doctor Whites Way By this their dealing it is very cleare that they hold no such infallibility in Popes no not decreeing things in general Councels 4. Councels of the Popish Church haue condemned and deposed some As Ioh. 22. who made a mocke at the Gospell and at the immortalitie of the soule and was condemned by the Councell of Constance which calleth him an incarnate diuell So Eugenius the fourth condemned by the Councell of Basil as an heretike an infidell a limbe of the diuell and as a capitall enemie to the truth The Councell of Pisa consisting of 1000. Diuines and Lawyers deposed two Popes Gregorie the twelfth and Bennet the Theod. Niem de schis li. 3. ca. 44. pa. 91. thirteenth for schismatickes and heretikes Lastly the complaints vttered by Papists doe shew how Popes may erre Francis Victoria speaking of immoderate dispensations saith De potestat pap Concil that a Councell should doe well to bridle him Saint Briget speakes thus of the Popes They are tormentors In her Reuel of soules and doe teare in pieces the flocke of Christ c. The Councell at Rhemes vnder Hugh Capet hauing complained of the times and Popes differing from their predecessors saith thus And must so many seruants of God throughout the World be subiect vnto him So wicked they were as Platina after a long deploring of the Tyranny impietie and hypocrisie which then reigned in Popes brake out into these speeches There can hardly be mercy enough in God for the Popes and Petrach durst to say that the greatest harme that one can wish to a man is to be Pope All these things considered we may beleeue without doubting that the Pope may erre So then the Papists virtuall Church may erre The Scriptures obiected answered Ioh. 11. 49 51. Caiphas spake this not of himselfe but being high Priest that yeere he prophesied that Iesus should die for the Nation Answ Caiaphas was a wicked man many wayes and in part an vsurper as the Rhemists confesse a very fit patterne Patron for the Pope But to answer to the place obiected for the Popes not erring First this was but once by speciall direction and therefore cannot hence be concluded any perpetuall assurance of direction It s cleare by that which followed for this man in another Councell Mat. 26. 57 59. heard and accepted of false witnesses condemned Christ for a blasphemer vers 60. 62 65. and in another Assembly tooke counsell to put him to death Mat. 27. 1. Secondly this speaketh of prophesie an extraordinarie gift to this man then Thirdly though the man here was a lewd wicked vsurper yet was his office of Gods own appointment What is this to the Popes Antichristian supremacie an office of the diuell and not of Gods ordinance Fourthly If this place afford assurance of an vnerring spirit to the Pope it must be either in respect of the mans person or office or chaire he sate in But none of these First not of his person who was a wicked vsurper and Christs enemie And will the Pope plead his person Secondly not of his office for that is changed as the Apostle in Hebrewes doth witnesse Thirdly not of the chaire for the seate had no such vertue in it to keepe him safe from error as before is noted in Mat 26. 57 59 61 62 65. and 27. 1. for the chaire either had then lost his vertue and then can it not keepe from error or it was not the chaires vertue which made Caiaphas to prophesie and then is it idle to boast of the chaire or else paraduenture the vertue was in it but not alwayes operatiue and then is it vncertaine when it will worke to keepe the man from error which sits therein so as he may some time or other erre or be left in doubt whether he doth erre or no. This being the state of that chaire how can the Pope clayme an vnerring spirit from this Fourthly though the Euangelist Iohn guided by Gods Spirit did expound the meaning of the words otherwise then Caiphas euer meant them yet those in Councell with him vnderstood them not spiritually but tooke them as vttred in State policie for outward peace and safetie of the Nation as is cleare in Ioh. 11. 48 53. So as he erred in his owne scope and they in apprehending the words in another drift and sense then God did intend by them Therfore as Caiphas and his companie herein erred so may the Pope and conclaue of Cardinals for any helpe to the contrary that they can get from this place Luk. 22. 31. I haue prayed that thy faith faile not Answ 1. This is spoken of Peter and not of the Pope
to his Mother in Luke did dreame of a Pope-holy Father and his Churches iurisdiction Christs Kingdome was not nor is not of this world Ioh. 18. 36. but the Popes is therefore he vndertakes to be chiefe Iudge to diuide inheritances and to dispose of kingdomes which Christ refused to intermeddle in Luk. 12. 14. Moreouer his Kingdome should extend to the vttermost parts of the earth but so did neuer Romes Iurisdiction Many Christian Churches neuer subiected themselues to her many farre remote know her not nor her Pope whether a man or a woman Pope Ioane Lastly The Romish Church cannot be Christs Kingdome for that the Pope is Antichrist whose character set forth in the Scripture he seemeth so liuely to expresse that his best abetters cannot free him of that title For my part I haue laid the dogge so neere his doore that I hope hee and his Parasites See also the Answer of B. Downame vnto Leon. Lessius de Antichristo cannot beat him away See more in my poore labours vpon the Reuelation Coloss 1. 5 6. Yee heard before in the word of the truth of the Gospell which is come vnto you as it is in all the world and bringeth forth fruit c. But saith the Gagger No faith or Gospell hath or is so dilated in all the world nor hath fructified as the faith of the Romane Church hath done Answ 1. Where is in the Text Rome or the Romish Church Secondly by saying no faith or Gospell hath or is so dilated speaking in the time past and present hee playeth the deceitfull Merchant by making two different things one 1. For by the time past and most ancient must bee meant the faith and Gospell in the Church planted in other places as well as at Rome in the Apostles dayes of which this place of the Colossians speaketh and by the time present is vnderstood the faith and profession of the now Romish Church greatly differing from that which the Apostle commended then as before is manifested out of the Epistle to the Romanes Thirdly in that he saith no faith meaning this present faith for which hee onely striueth hath not been nor is so dilated in all the world fructified and growne is not true For first the true faith beginning at Ierusalem went farther being preached to euery creature vnder Heauen Col. 1. 6 23. Secondly this our present faith the very same with that Ancient faith as I See my Booke Looke beyond Luther haue proued is dilated fructified and growne more then theirs It is in both the East and West Indies it is in more Kingdomes in Europe then the Pope hath full iurisdiction in as in England Scotland with all the adiacent Ilands belonging to both Kingdomes which bee many in Ireland in Denmarke Norway Sweden Poland Lapland and in other Countreys vnder those Kings in Pomeraine in the Low Countreys in Dukedomes Princedomes and in other places in Germany Besides that it is in France and some other places of the Popes Iurisdiction So that for spaciousnesse wee be little behinde Rome Hereto are to bee added the Russian Greeke and Abyssine Churches as large as the European In those the Papacie is either vtterly vnknowne or abhorred as vehemently as by vs. Thirdly the faith and vnbeliefe of the Mahumetane Religion is beyond the Romish present faith Therefore as the Text helpeth him not so his boasting is vaine and false Rom. 1. 8. I thanke my God through Iesus Christ for you all that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world The Gagger hauing cited this place saith that Saint Paul in expresse termes calleth the faith of the whole world or Catholike faith The faith of the Romanes that is to say of the Romane Church Therefore it is onely the Catholike Church Answ 1. Note here that hee concludeth the Catholikenesse from the faith of the Church where therefore that is which then was commended must needs bee the Catholike Church holding the Catholike faith as we doe Secondly but what is this to the Romish Church now For their present faith is not that which Paul commended then This should they proue Is this good reasoning Such a mans word was of singular credit formerly with euery man Ergo it is so still when hee is growne Bankerupt Ierusalem was the ioy of the whole earth ergo it is so still Let this Gagger proue their faith now the same with that then else this place will doe them no good but rather vpbraideth their Apostasie 3. In this application of the words hee erreth grosly or rather if it be not his error through ignorance then it is wicked deceite and so worse in calling it the faith of the Church of Rome as if originally it had flowed from thence and gone out thence into the world when Saint Paul mentioneth not any going forth of this Faith from thence but that it was spoken of which is to be vnderstood of their receiuing of it as it was receiued of other Nations as is euident in Rom. 1. 5 6. where Paul speakes of the Faith among all nations among whom saith he they were called So as those at Rome were partakers with others of the common faith preached in the world and not otherwise beholden to Rome for their faith as this Gagger would insinuate to his credulous Schollers This text therefore makes Rome no more the Catholicke Church then Corinth Philippi Tessalonica c. which had receiued the same faith though their receiuing of it was not perhaps so much spoken of for the reasons afore alleadged XVII Proposition That the Church of Rome hath euer beene in perfect vnity within it selfe Confuted by their owne Bible FOr euen in the Apostles dayes when Saint Paul wrote his Epistles there were in the Romane Church some which then made dissentions and scandals contrary to the doctrine which they had learned which serued not Christ our Lord but their owne bellies Rom. 16 17 18. as yet they now doe at Rome There were vncharitable contentions and iudging of one another about things in themselues indifferent about eating and not eating as also about superstitious obseruing of dayes Rom. 14. in and about which two things a great deale of their Religion consists to this day And if shee hath beene in such vnity alwaies within her selfe how is it happened that she is become the great Whore Reu. 17. and that her Head the Pope is become that Man of Sinne 2. Thes 2. and that Antichrist the beast like a Lambe which speaketh as the Dragon Reu. 13 Contraried by Antiquity I. There is no vnity betweene the Popes and Peter whom they make their Predecessor See for this Catal. Test verit pa. 27. 62 c. Saint Peters life and the Popes compared Saint Peters Doctrine in his Epistles and the Popes Decrees together II. Not betweene Pope and Pope Not in iudgement for Martin the fift held with the Councell of Constance and Eugenius the fourth with Ferrara and Florence against the
Lo saith he how from those which he would haue esteemed the lesser he ascendeth to those whom he would haue esteemed the greater Answ 1. The mans wit went a grazing when he wrote this For if he so conclude from the order then Paul must be inferiour to Apollos when Paul was an Apostle and a Planter but Apollos no Apostle and onely a waterer 1. Cor. 3. 6. 2. In Mat. 10. 2. he would haue Peter the chiefe because hee was named first now here the chiefe because hee is named in a third place Saint Paul Gal. 2. 9. puts him in the second place betweene two and will not they hold him the chiefe for this too Doth not vertue consist in the midst for put him in the first place as in Mat. 10. in the third place as in 1. Cor. 3. 4 22. or in the second as in Gal. 2. 9. its with them a profound Reason to make him alwayes the chiefe for he may take what place he listeth Deepe Diuinitie and an inuincible Reason Though Saint Paul in Gal. 2. takes himselfe to be nothing inferiour to him or to other which seemed to bee Pillars and was inferiour to none of the great Apostles 1. Cor. 11. 5. 12. 11. vpon this Text Chrysostome shewes that S. Paul compared himselfe with the Apostles euen with Peter and the rest Luk. 22. 31. And the Lord said Simon c. When thou art conuerted strengthen thy Brethren Answ This place proueth not any Headship ouer the Apostles First hee is called Simon by his common name and not Peter which our Aduersaries stand vpon and make their chiefe argument Secondly this place is to forewarne him of his fearfull temptation and so of his fall thereby the vtter peril wherof he should escape not by himselfe or his owne power and grace but by Christs mediation What is this to haue a Headship Thirdly it teacheth him a duty when hee should be conuerted and be recouered from vnder the fall that hee should confirme others If by confirming the Gagger will hence conclude the practice and exercise of greatnesse ouer the Apostles then Saint Paul and Barnabas had this greatnesse too For they did confirme others Act. 14. 21. and Paul and Silas Act. 15. 41. 1. Thes 3. 2. yea it is a common Duty of euery Pastor Is euery one that confirmeth made thereby a Superiour in Rule and Gouernment Then a Priest confirming his Soueraigne is his Superiour And by this Saint Paul was Peters Superiour for he brought Peter backe from his by-path both by reproofe and publike teaching of the truth and so confirmed him who for feare did before goe astray Gal. 2. 11 17. Fourthly the Lord Iesus if they will here vnderstand the Apostles calleth them Simons Brethren and so giueth them equalitie Lastly where are the Gaggers expresse words for Peters Headship out of this place Is it in strengthening A poore strength to support such a Babylonish Tower Luk. 22. 26. He that is greatest among you let him be yonger and he that is Chiefe as he that doth serue Answ 1. The words in the beginning of this verse are against Chiefety for it is said It shall not be so with you when they were at strife for Superioritie Secondly the meaning of the Greatest and Chiefe on which the Gagger doth fasten his teeth doth not imply as hee pretendeth any Chiefety among them but Christ speaketh according to their aspiring minds not of them as any of them were but as some of them desired to be as is cleare by the speech and Petition of the Mother of Zebedees children Mat. 20. 20 27. Thirdly the occasion and the very scope of the place is against all Superioritie in the Apostles Fourthly it cannot be shewed that any of them all did either claime or practise any superioritie or taught in their writings any such thing Fiftly they did striue verse 24. for superioritie which of them should seeme the greater As yet therefore there was no such greatnesse settled among them 6. If any such thing had beene or had beene intended by Christ to be conferred vpon Peter he had vpon this iust occasion to haue decided the Controuersie as surely he would haue done in Peters behalfe in a matter of so great consequence as our Aduersaries make it as he did in the behalfe of Moses and Aaron to appease the contention against them Num. 16. 17. 10. But Christ telleth them all that no such thing should be among them in this text and giueth the rest authoritie to pull downe the spirit of him that would seeke to be Chiefe to make him as a Seruant as is euident in the words of the text Therefore here is nothing for any authoritie in Peter Nor indeed in any other Scripture XIX Proposition That S. Peter was Head of the Church THough the former Position ouerthrowne sufficiently confuteth this for if Peter be not Superiour ouer the Apostles who were the principall members of the Church he cannot be the Head of the Church yet seeing this Headship ouer the Church is so stiffely stood in I thought good to handle it also distinctly from the rest for more euidence of the truth to common Christians Confuted by their owne Bible I. By appropriation it giueth the title of Head of the Church onely to Christ Ephes 1. 22. 4. 15. 5. 23. Col. 1. 18. And no where doth it make a man the Head of the Church neither Peter nor any other either expressely or by any necessarie consequent II. It calleth the Church the bodie of Christ 1. Cor. 12. 27. Ephes 4. 12. 6. 23. No where is it called the body of S. Peter III. It telleth vs that Saint Peter himselfe giueth to Christ Headship Principalitie and Chieftie and to none other for he calleth him the Prince of Pastors 1. Pet. 5. 4. the Pastor and Bishop of our soules 1. Pet. 2. 25. as he is also called the high Priest of our confession Heb. 3. 1. IV. The Apostles did not know or acknowledge any such Primacy or Headship in Peter For first they sent Peter and Iohn to Samaria Act. 8. 14. which they neither would nor could haue done had he been their Gouernour and Head indeed Secondly Iames in the Councell at Ierusalem tooke no notice of Peters supremacy for Iames did then call him Simon his name before he was an Apostle without any title of preeminencie Acts 15. 14. Hee also said I iudge which word Peter there vsed not vers 19. to whose sentence and iudgement Peter and all the Apostles and Ancients did subscribe vers 22. Thirdly none of the other Apostles then did acknowledge any Headship in Peter for the Decree of the Councell went out vnder the conioynt authoritie of all without speciall mentioning of Peter Act. 15. 23. and 16. 4. Fourthly Saint Paul knew of no such Chieftie in Peter for first when he doth mention any word tending to set out any greatnesse in the Apostles hee applyeth it not singularly as to
signe being called by the thing signified as we see in other Sacraments which must teach vs to expound this as also the rest of the words this Chalice is the new Testament 1. Cor. 11. 25. this is my bloud of the New Testament Math. 26. 28. this is the Chalice the New Testament Luk. 22. 20. and Drinke the Chalice saith S. Paul which they yeeld to be figuratiuely spoken and therefore so must the other Thirdly the name of bread both before the mentioning of the words of Consecration by Saint Paul in 1. Cor. 11. 23. and after is still kept verse 26 27 28. 1. Cor. 10. 16 17. not because only shew of Bread was so to the eye but for that it remained bread indeed and is yet so to feeling and taste as well as to sight Fourthly their Bible telleth vs that heauen truely hath receiued Christ vntill the times of the restitution of all things Acts 3. 21. Till then hee commeth not bodily out of heauen except the bread be heauen it selfe into which at his Ascension he was receiued Fiftly their Bible telleth vs that when Christ commeth hee shall come from heauen visibly so come againe as the Apostles saw him goe vp Act. 1. 11. But they saw him in his body visibly ascend so shall he in body come againe and not in a conceited inuisibilitie into the Sacrament bodily Sixtly their owne Bible teacheth that a body cannot be in two places at one instant of time Mat. 28. 26. He is not here said the Angell and giueth the reason For he is risen Because hee was in another place being risen and gone out of the Sepulchre See Augustine in Ioh. tract 31. shewing that Christ is not in two places at one time the Angell plainely and truely denied him therefore to be there Now wee beleeue him to bee euer bodily in heauen Therefore by an heauenly Angels reason wee may truely say that bodily he is not here in the Sacrament no more then he was in the Sepulchre because he was risen Seuenthly their Bible teacheth that wheresoeuer Christs bodie was at any time hee was discernable by sense and therefore he willeth his Disciples to vse their sense to discerne him Luk. 24. 39. So did Thomas Ioh. 20. 28. But in the Sacrament is no sensiblenesse at all of his bodily presence Eighthly their Bible doth teach that whensoeuer God turned one substance into another or tooke one away and put another in stead thereof that the same was discernable by sense Moses Staffe was visibly a Serpent Dust in Egypt was Lice seene and felt and so the Water was Bloud sensibly and the Water good Wine in Ioh. 2. 9. 10. to the taste But in this change at the Sacrament is no such sensible perception and therefore is there no such thing for God in his miracles deludeth no mans sense Contraried by Antiquity Tertul. aduers Marcionem This is my bodie that is This is a figure of my body Ambros desacra lib. 4. saith that it is a figure of the body and bloud of Christ And speaking of the signes he saith that they remaine the same that they were August in Psal 3. saith that in this Feast the Lord commanded and deliuered the figure of his bodie and bloud to his Disciples And the same Father contra Adamantium cap. 12. saith that wheÌ„ the Lord said This is my body he gaue the signe of his body See more in his Booke de Doct. Chri. lib. 3. cap. 16. calling it a figure and contr Maximinum lib. 3. cap. 22. he calleth the things visible Signes Chrysost ad Caesarium Monachum saith that though the bread hath the name of the Lords body yet the nature of bread remaineth still Theodoret. in Dialo immuta Hee changed the names and gaue his bodie that name which belonged to the signe and to the signe that name which belonged to his body not by changing their nature but by adding grace to nature And in Dial inconfusus hee saith that the mysticall signes after consecration doe not depart from their nature but they abide still in their former substance figure and forme and may be seene and touched as before Cyril in Ios lib. 4. cap. 14. saith that Christ gaue to his faithfull Disciples pieces of bread See farther in Bishop Vsher his last Booke of the controuerse of the Reall presence citing Iustine Martyr Ireneus Tertullian Origen Cyprian Theophilus of Antioch the Author of the harmony of the Gospels Eusebius Acacius Macarius Austin Chrysostome Theodores Ephraemius the Councell of Constantinople Bishops of France in a Synode at Carisiacum Rabanus Also D. White his last Booke pag. 401. citing many and pag. 435. answering the Aduersaries places out of the Fathers Gainsaid by themselues Golasins a Pope de duabus nat Chri. saith that the nature of the Bread and Wine ceaseth not but remaine stil in the propertie of their nature and contra Eutycheten The elements are the image and similitude of the body and bloud of Christ Their Glosse de cons Dist 2. The heauenly Sacrament is called the body of Christ but vnproperly It is impossible that the bread should be the body of Christ Pet. Lombard sent 4. dist 11. si autem c. saith that some iudged and some wrote that the very substance of bread and Wine remained still and of the manner of conuersion he saith he is not able to define Petrus de Aliaco the Cardinall 4. q. 6. Art 2. saith that the opinion which holdeth the substance of bread not to remaine doth not euidently follow of the Scriptures nor in his seeming of the Churches determination Caietan 3. par q. 75. Art 1. pag. 153. saith that in the Gospel there is nothing that compelleth vs to vnderstand them properly See more in Bishop Vsher his last booke of this point Ratrannus Scotus Alfrick Abbot of Malmesbury The Scriptures obiected answered Luk. 22. 15. With desire I haue desired to eate the Passeouer with you before I suffer Answ 1. This Text is vnderstood of the Iewish Passeouer and not of the Lords Supper for the Supper was not called the Pasche or Passeouer Also the whole Text sheweth it to bee â—â— verse 7 8 11 13 15. Secondly euen in this Text is a Sacramentall phrase for here the eating of the Lambe is called the Passeouer which was an act done long before of which this Feast was onely a remembrance and not the thing it selfe Thirdly this Passeouer did Christ certainly eate of with his Disciples but the Bread Wine in the Supper which he instituted for this new sacrament of the new Testament the Apostles ate and dranke of but not a word of Christs eating thereof but onely of the other Iewish Sacrament of which in the Verses next following hee also speakes saying that he would no more drinke of the Vine verse 18. as before he said that he would not eate of the Passeouer verse 16. Ioh. 6. 51. I am the liuing Bread c. Answ This speaketh not
merit of the Saints If all this were true and euidently cleere out of Scripture yet will it not follow that wee therefore may pray to them For prayer is a part of Gods worship to bee made onely to God as precepts dobindlys the patterne of all true right praying directeth and holy mens examples doe teach vs So this answer might suffice Yet that their proofes from Scripture may not deceiue the vnconsiderate I wil produce the places for all foure and make answer thereunto I. Scriptures obiected That Angels pray in particular for vs answered Zach. 1. 12. And the Angell of the Lord answered and said O Lord of Hosts how long wilt thou not haue mercy on Ierusalem and on the Cities of Iudah c Answ 1. This was a vision in the night to the Prophet verse 8. and chap. 4. 1. and so an extraordinarie thing and being so and also but a representation for the present to instruct the Prophet a reall and ordinarie act cannot bee concluded from thence Secondly these words are not a Prayer but a kinde of enquirie after the Lords purpose touching the future estate of the Church that he might enforme the Prophet thereof as by the present ensuing answer may appeare in verse 13. and the charge giuen to make the same knowne to the Church verse 14 15. for her comfort in restoring her to glory and peace verse 16 17. Thirdly grant it a Prayer it will not proue that Angels pray for vs because this Angell is not a created Angell but Iesus Christ who is often called in the Old Testament an Angell as before is shewed And that this Angell is so to bee taken is euident For first the Prophet calleth this Angell his Lord vers 9. chap. 4. 4 5. Secondly the Text calleth him the Lord and maketh this Angell and the Lord all one verse 19 20 21. Thirdly to this Angell the other gaue an account verse 11. Fourthly before this Angell stood Iosua the High Priest chap. 3. 1 3. and he is called the Lord verse 2. The Lord said vnto Satan The Lord rebuke thee Satan Tobie 12. 12. I did bring the remembrance of your prayers before the holy One Answ 1. He that is here brought in for an Angell of God in chap. 5. 12. told no better then a lye for he said he was Azarias the sonne of Ananias a mortall mans sonne He could not then be an Angell or if an Angell a lying one And as hee made a lye therein so might he doe in this chap. 12. 12 15. Secondly this place doth not proue that Angels pray for vs. For he saith not that he prayed for them but if the lyer may be beleeued he brought their prayers vnto Gods remembrance and presented them vers 15. as one taking a Petition of another man to present it to a King he is the presenter of it but not the Petitioner Thirdly this Booke is Apocrypha and suspected of idle fables such as learned Papists doe meanely esteeme of Reu. 8. 4. And the smoake of the Incense which came with the prayers of the Saints ascended from the hand of the Angell before God Answ 1. Here is no created Angell but Iesus Christ which is cleere by these reasons First from the allusion to the Priests office seruing at the Altar who was a type not of a created Angell but of Christ Heb. 9. 11. Then from the place where this Angell stands which was at the Altar to offer vpon the golden Altar which was before the Throne but the Angels are in the out circuit of the Church chap. 5. 11. as her guard to keepe her Psal 34. 7. Secondly it is not said that hee offered vp the Saints prayers but he offered vp Incense with their prayers It accompanied the Saints prayers verse 4. and the smoake of the Incense ascended vp with the prayers of the Saints Christs Spirit goeth with the prayers of the Saints like Incense and the vehemencie thereof teaching vs to pray with groanes that cannot bee expressed Rom. 8. is like smoke ascending vp before God or the Incense is Christs own intercession the smoake the efficacie thereof accompanying the Saints prayers vnto God for when wee pray he then prayeth for vs. Thirdly most of the Papists which doe write vpon this Text doe hold this Angell to be Christ Peter Bullenger Thom. Aquin. Rich. de Sancto victore Haymo Dion Carthus Viegas and many other This is nothing then for Angels praying for vs. Dan. 8. 15. When I Daniel had seene the vision c. and chap. 9. 20 21. while I was speaking in Prayer c. Answ 1. The former Text speakes nothing at all of any Angels praying but of the Angels instructing Daniel at Gods commandement chap. 8. 16 17. This was also a vision in a deepe sleepe verse 18. From whence Doctrines of Faith are not to be concluded but soundly to be taught from the literall sense of other holy Scriptures II. The latter Text sheweth that Daniel praying to God chap. 9. 20. the Angell of the Lord was sent to him verse 21. but no mention of any prayer made by the Angell for him Whether Angels pray for vs the Scripture teacheth not If wee yeeld that they doe it followes not that we should pray to See D. White his last booke in answer to Luk. 15. 10. pag. 315 316. to 1. Cor. 4. 9. pag. 317. them The Angels are sent out by God for vs they are often with vs they are helpers and by comming and going at Gods bidding they doe know our affaires here But should wee therefore pray to them it is a part of Gods worship and Angels themselues as before is proued forbid to be worshipped II. Scriptures obiected to proue that Saints departed know what is here done on earth answered Luk. 16. 29. They haue Moses and the Prophets let them heare them Answ 1. It is a Parable and a thing supposed onely not a literall History For after the very letter some things in this Parable cannot be true and therefore they cannot hence conclude a Doctrine as out of a Historie If this place will serue for Saints knowledge from Abraham how can the Papists looke on this Text hindring the people from the Scripture When first Abraham exhorts to the hearing of Moses and the Prophets Secondly denyeth the sending of the dead to instruct as Papists haue beene instructed for their feigned Purgatorie Thirdly he affirmeth that they which will not heare the Scriptures written by Moses and the Prophets will not beleeue such as rise from the dead Thus he confirmeth the authoritie of the Scriptures against wandring visions apparitions Secondly the Papists say that before Christs Ascension Abraham and the rest of the Patriarks were in the place called Limbus patrum How could Abraham know what was done in Earth when he was in the prison Perhaps by enquirie made of other Soules which came thither how the Church did and what other meanes of instruction she had then
when hee liued on the earth Thirdly if but so what is this to proue that Saints then and so now doe know euery mans estate particularly and what passeth here vpon earth Ioh. 5. 45. There is one that accuseth you euen Moses Answ 1. By Moses is not meant his person but his writings among them as the verses 46. and 47. doe declare Secondly it is absurd to make the Saints in Heauen accusers Papists will haue them Intercessors whose propertie is not to accuse in any sort but to pray for them which pray to them Thirdly Christ saith they trust in Moses Will a Saint in heauen bee so displeased with them and so faile them that trust in him that hee will goe and accuse them vnto God Such then become miserable Patrons Doth their Legend afford any such examples Fourthly Christs saying that they trusted in Moses must not be vnderstood of his person but of his writings For the Iewes did not beleeue in man A curse as is before deliuered they knew to be pronounced against them which trusted in man Reu. 12. 10. The accuser of the brethren is cast downe which accused them before God day and night Answ In the former they make Moses an accuser of some and so in that respect a companion with the diuell heere Is not this a wise Gagger But how can they proue hence that Saints in Heauen know what is done here Because the diuell knowes what euils are here done A goodly reason But doe not wee know that the Diuell is here on earth that hee compasseth the earth to and fro Hee stirres vp Dauid to number the people hee is author of much mischiefe hee must then know many things And will it hence follow therefore that soules which remaine continually in heauen must know what is here done in earth 2. King 6. 12. Elisha telleth what words the King of Syria spake being farre from him So 2. King 5. 26. Elisha saw what passed between Naaman and Gehezi 1. Cor. 12. Saint Paul was rapt vp into the third Heauen Act. 7. Steuen in earth saw Christ in heauen Answ 1. These places tell vs that these things were so Let them bring vs Scriptures which will affirme as much of the soules in heauen heere seeing things in earth and we will beleeue But this these places proue not Secondly these were extraordinarie reuelations and giue no warrant of ordinarie knowledge In such things from extraordinarie acts to ordinarie is no sound arguing For the Prophets did not know all things Elisha knew not the cause of the Shunamites comming 2. King 4. 27. nor Samuel when he went to lesse his house whom God would chuse 1. Sam. 16. 6. Thirdly all these are instances of knowledge in men on earth of things done on earth or of things which being on earth they saw in heauen but not a word what those in heauen saw here vpon earth which is the onely point in question The Gagger quoteth moe places As Mat. 19. 28. But this is nothing to purpose And the place is meant of all appearing before Christ at the last day whom the Apostles shall then see Reu. 2. 26. 1. Here is a promise accomplished in Christ See D. White his last booke p 309. 310 311 312. in answer to this as also to Reu. 3. 12. 1. Cor. 13. 9. 5. 10. not cited by the Gagger Psal 2. in whom the Saints haue this power See Augustine Beda and many other cited by Fulke on this place for this sense Secondly this is to bee vnderstood of the Saints power ouer those out of the Church For here they are to bee ruled with a rodde of iron and to be broken in pieces But the Saints departed Papists make Protectors of others and not breakers of them to shiuers Act. 5. 3. This was an extraordinarie manifestation of Ananias his hypocrisie to Peter If they can proue that God doth reueale mens actions here to Saints in Heauen wee yeeld 1. Sam. 28. 14. Here is the Diuell appearing in Samuelt likenesse what hence this Gagger will gather for Saints knowledge in heauen I know not III. Scriptures obiected that Saints departed doe pray for vs particularly answered Reu. 5. 8. The 24. Elders fell downe before the Lambe hauing euery one of them Harps and golden Vials full of odours which are the prayers of the Saints Answ 1. This was in a vision and traunce and the words allegoricall and therefore cannot bee the ground of Doctrine of faith Secondly here is not meant the Saints departed but these foure and twenty are the type of the whole Church here on earth verse 10. Thirdly these prayers of the Saints which Saints are on earth chap. 8. 3. may be the prayers of the foure and twenty Elders themselues yet called the prayers of the Saints as if they were the prayers of others First for that these represent the whole Church verse 9. which consists of Saints Secondly because a Church or Congregation of people gathered together pray not onely for themselues but for all the Saints of God and so their hearts here being as Vials full of the grace of Prayer as it were odours are esteemed the prayers of all Saints Fourthly Tho. Aquinas Rich. de Sco. Victore Haymo Beda and other doe expound this place of the Church militant 2. Mach. 15. 14. Then Onias answered c. Where he telleth how Ieremy prayed for the people Answ 1. This is an Apocryphal Booke Secondly this speech of Onias touching Ieremies praying was but Iudas his dreame For it is said in verse 11. that he told the souldiers al this as his dreame to encourage them to fight It is weake architecture to build vpon a dreame doctrines of faith Thirdly neither did Iudas much regard the helpe of Ieremies prayer For in the same Chapter hee himselfe did pray verse 21 22 23. but intreated not Ieremy to pray for him but made his suite onely to God Ier. 15. 1. Though Moses and Samuel stood before me c. Answ 1. These words are spoken onely by way of supposition as if God had said If Moses and Samuel were now before mee as they were when they liued on earth praying for these people I should not regard them Is it good reasoning from a suppositiue speech to a reall act indeed Secondly they themselues say that all the Fathers that were before Christ were in Limbus Patrum and so could not know our affaires in particular to pray for vs. Baruch 3. 4. Heare now the prayers of the dead Israelites Answ 1. This booke is Apocryphal Secondly were not these in the place called Limbus Patrum How could they then see all things in the face of God from whose presence they were kept Thirdly heere is mention of the prayers of dead Israelites but not for whom they prayed It is not said they prayed for others on earth They might pray for themselues in Limbo Fourthly by dead Israelites are not here to bee vnderstood such as were departed
20. Because saith hee wee are redeemed by the grace of the Creator wee haue this heauenly gift bestowed vpon vs that when we leaue our fleshly habitation incontinently we are carried to our heauenly rewards Can any thing bee spoken more cleerely against going into Purgatorie See Bishop Vsher his last Booke in the controuersie touching Purgatorie and also D. White his last booke pag. 567. citing many Papists touching the inualiditie of the Popes power ouer soules in Purgatorie Scriptures obiected answered 1. Cor. 3. 15. If any mans worke shall bee burnt hee shall suffer losse but himselfe shall be saued yet so as by fire Answ 1. Albeit the foolish Gagger doth say that this is an expresse Scripture to proue Purgatorie yet Bellarmine saith Lib. 1. de Purg. cap. 5. that this is one of the most difficult places of the whole Scripture Therefore it will not easily satisfie a doubtfull minde in this controuerted point Secondly this place is interpreted in the seuerall words very See Morneus on the Masse all their opinions cited Lib. 3. cap. 6. p. 257 261. diuersly by the Ancients and so variously as Bellarmine is forced by reason of the incongruities thereof to leaue and forsake them all and to run his owne course as wide as any of the rest and differing from his fellowes Thomas Alcuinus Hugo Cardinalis and other Thirdly Erasmus in his Commentarie saith that this place affordeth not any thing for Purgatorie or veniall sinnes This his opinion is not suffered to see light but is blotted out See Index Expurgatorius which is made the true Purgatorie for Erasmus and others that dare to doubt of the false Purgatorie Fourthly the words are all Allegoricall Now Symbolicall places proue not Articles of Faith And therein it is absurd to take any of the words properly in continued metaphors and wholly Allegoricall Fiftly this text speaketh of burning of a mans worke but not of burning a soule But in Purgatorie they say the soule is burning and not his worke workes goe not into Purgatorie but here workes both good and bad are tryed by this fire Sixtly this speaketh of the worke of Teachers building vpon the foundation either Gold Siluer or precious Stones or Wood Hay and Stubble By the former must bee vnderstood either sound Doctrine or sound-hearted Beleeuers wonne to Christ by their teaching and then by the latter must be meant errours and vnsound Doctrine or hollow-hearted Christians which in time of fierie tryall fall away Take then either way this is nothing for veniall sinnes or bringing soules to a purgation Accordingly in the thirteenth verse the fire is a reuealing and trying fire to manifest the difference of mens workes in the execution of their Ministerie What is this to the purging and tormenting fire as a satisfactorie punishment for sinne Purgatorie fire is a materiall fire say they but a materiall fire cannot try Doctrines truth from falshood sound from vnwholesome teaching Seuenthly the word fire in verse 15. cannot be taken for materiall fire or Purgatorie fire First because the continued metaphors in the whole context admits not of such a proper and literall interpretation Secondly the word of similitude is against it For it is not said by fire but as by fire so it is not meant fire properly but by some likenesse a metaphoricall fire not a materiall fire Thirdly Estius one of their owne learned men saith That the word fire three times mentioned in verse 13 and 15 is the same in euery place and calleth the interpretation absurd which puts a difference in them Which being true the former fire in verse 13. not being meant of Purgatorie by Bellarmines grant this latter cannot but absurdly be so interpreted And so in conclusion no Purgatorie fire at all This fire is spirituall such a fire as can try Doctrines and can reueale them and can saue the builder though it consume his worke which fire is Gods Word Ier. 23. 29. and 20. 9. and Gods holy Spirit Mar. 9. 49. Mat. 3. 11. This word by the operation of this Spirit vpon the conscience of an erroneous builder when by the light of truth hee seeth his worke vaine and naught worketh as fire in him to make him confesse his errour and to labour to teach the truth and thus is he saued as by fire the word being in him as fire as it was in Ieremie especially in time of trouble and day of tryall for his Doctrine Ioh. 11. 22. But I know that euen now whatsoeuer thou wilt aske of God God will giue it thee Cardinall Allen saith the Gagger hath hence learnedly concluded that Martha had beene taught and beleeued that the dead might be holpen by the pietie of the liuing Answ 1. How learnedly the Cardinal could conclude hence Purgatorie or the Gagger to helpe him I leaue to learned men to iudge and withal whether they haue not exposed themselues to folly who hence would collect such a thing Secondly touching the Iewish Church and her Doctrine how Purgatorie was vnknowne to her and the Church of Israel vnder the Law let the Reader peruse Mornay of the Masse his third booke and sixt Chapter Thirdly the speech is to Christ and of her full assurance of the efficacie of his prayer vnto God euen to raise vp Lazarus from the dead as appeareth by the scope of her speech What is this to helpe soules in Purgatorie Act. 2. 24. Whom God hath raised vp loosing the sorrowes of Hell This cleerely makes for Purgatorie saith the wise Gagger for here he and the Rhemists wil haue Christ loose others from their paines Answ 1. This speakes of Christs rising from the dead by the power of God Secondly of Gods raising him vp and loosing him from the sorrowes of Hell and not of Christs freeing others from torment Thirdly here is no mention of Purgatorie but of Hell And is Hell and Purgatorie now one place I feare mee they will finde it so that hee which goeth to Purgatorie goeth to Hell Fourthly the word Hell is here taken properly or figuratiuely If properly for hell it selfe the place of the damned then it is nothing for their Purgatorie for from hell is no redemption Luk. 16. 26. If figuratiuely then it speakes not of any reall Purgatorie place and so neither way serues their turne Fiftly if they will haue the place to bee for Purgatorie then is there no cause now to feare it for therein is now no more paines For it is not said that hee loosed the soules out of it but the sorrowes thereof and tooke them away What maketh this for Purgatorie Sixtly the word in the most current originals is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 though the old vulgar reade 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and the first signifieth not Hell but Death so it is thus to be read loosing the sorrowes of death as we truely translate 1. Cor. 15. 29. Otherwise what shall they doe that are baptized for the dead An euident proofe saith the Gagger
haue their strength from faith and by it are set on worke so as it and they together make vs that we neither shall be barren nor without fruit in the knowledge of our Lord Iesus Christ as S. Peter speakes but hereby make our calling and election sure 2. Pet. 1. 5 6 7 8 10. For whilest faith holdeth Christ and in him apprehendeth eternall life hope expecteth the accomplishment patience endureth trials loue exerciseth vs in duties of obedience and workes of mercy feare keepes vs from sinne and aweth vs that we dare not displease God a good conscience comforteth vs humilitie makes vs lowly in our owne eyes hatred of sinne makes vs to fly the causes and occasions thereof as ill companie counsels and examples to euill Godly sorrow vpon our falls exerciseth vs in fasting praying and labour zeale makes vs take reuenge vpon our selues when wee haue trespassed and to oppose stoutly wickednes in others and so forth in all the rest of Gods graces whatsoeuer they be for as faith is said to worke by loue so doth it worke by hope patience humilitie and all other vertues which accompanie it neuer neglecting the meanes which God prescribeth in the way to heauen nor abating the power of these other graces gifts of God nor withholding them from their proper workes wherein they are to be imployed vpon any vaine confidence of saluation by Christ or imaginatie assurance of heauen Hence is it that such as in the Scripture are said to beleeue are said also to feare God to be charitable to be iust to eschew euill to doe good to fast and pray to continue in the Word to heare it with an honest heart to come to the Sacraments and so forth See this in S. Paul who was well assured of eternall life of which he could confidently speake 2. Tim. 4. 8. 2. Cor. 5. 1. Rom. 8. 38 39. And yet neuerthelesse he had care to keepe a good conscience towards God and man Act. 24. 16. endeuouring to please God 2. Cor. 5. 9. and had excellent vertues accompanying his faith 2. Tim. 3. 10 11. Dauid had particulat assurance of pardon of sinne 2. Sam. 12. 13. yet he afterward prayed for mercie feruently Psal 51. and Christ knew his houre yet did auoid dangers Hezekias knew that he should liue fifteene yeeres yet vsed the meanes of life So Saint Paul was sure of safety yet would haue meanes vsed Act. 27. 31. Thirdly that neither this faith nor any of these graces are perfect in this life for the Scripture speaketh of degrees of Faith Matth. 8. 26. and 15. 28. Rom. 4. 21. and of the increase of faith Luk. 15. 5. 2. Thes 1. 3. 2. Cor. 10. 15. Rom. 1. 17. So likewise of the increase of knowledge Col. 1. 10. of loue Phil. 1. 9. of workes of charitie 1. Thes 4. 10. of walking and pleasing God 1. Thes 4. 1. of grace 2. Pet. 3. 18. and so of all other vertues which doe increase as the whole Church doth increase as the Apostle witnesseth Ephes 2. 21. So that they are more at one time then at another in such as haue them and doe increase by degrees though not alike in all Hence it is first that ordinary meanes are prescribed by God not onely for the first begetting but also for the increase and continuance of all these graces to wit the Word 1 Pet. 2. 1 2. the Sacraments and Prayer which therefore the godly doe euer make vse of Act. 2. 42 46. Secondly that the godly are so often found fault with reproued admonished and threatned for failing in their duties Thirdly that they doe so vilifie themselues and renounce all righteousnesse in themselues and fly to Gof for mercy through Christ Fourthly that there are so many exhortations as meanes to vrge them to their duties in which they are weake and defectiue Fifthly that promises are made with conditions annexed to stirre them vp to their duties Fourthly that with these imperfections of graces there remaineth in the most holiest persons naturall corruption which is sometime so strong as it not onely hindereth the worke of these graces so as a regenerate man cannot doe the good hee would but also is drawne to do that which he would not Rom. 7. 15 18. Hence it is first that the best haue sometime broken forth into foule enormities as may be seene in Dauid Solomon and others Secondly that God so threatens chastiseth them as meanes to awake and reclaime them Thirdly that they so See an excellent discourse of this in Bishop Abbots answer to Bishop in this point of the certainty of saluation pag. 257. humble themselues 〈◊〉 cry and call as if they were forsaken Fourthly that this faith and these graces are not seen nor felt to bee at all times alike in operation but so weakened through strength of corruption so brought vnder as if they had clean lost their vertues and faith in a sort had failed which in some agony of spirit causeth them to vtter some vncomfortable words sauouring rather of desperation then of any hope of saluation euen as Christ on the Crosse crying My God my God why hast thou forsaken me And as Dauid sometimes did in the Psalms Ps 13. 1. 6. 1 6. 22. 1 2. 31. 22. 38. 1 8. 55. 4 5. Fifthly and lastly that albeit the imperfection of graces and corruptions of nature doe weaken thus the power of faith and other accompanying graces much troubling the soule of a true Beleeuer yet doe none of them hereby alter their nature nor change their qualitie but faith holdeth its hold though sometime as doth a Palsie hand and striueth against doubting till it conquer in the combate as may bee seene in Dauids conflicts First he will say to his soule as he doth in a Psalme Why are thou so disquieted within me yet trust in God Secondly he will runne to God in Prayer which is the true fruit of faith Thirdly he will professe his faith and trust in God So Iob in his greatest terrours said If he kill mee yet will I trust in him So that faith giueth assurance in the midst of troubles and saueth Daniel in the very den of Lyons and other in the midst of a siery Ouen Therefore for all the defects of graces and power of corruptions ouer-swaying too often yet seeing they destroy not faith in the elect nor annihilate their graces they are most certaine of their saluation in the end Scriptures obiected answered 1. Cor. 9. 27. But I keepe vnder my body and bring it into subiection lest that by any meanes when I haue preached to others I my selfe should be a Castaway Answ 1. This place speaketh not of a Castaway as one reprobated to eternall destruction but the word signifieth one not approued 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 opposed to one approued being like reffuse siluer which is not good and currant Ier. 6. 30. So as the meaning is I Paul preaching to other doe
professing haue erred concerning the faith Answ Faith as before is here the sound and wholesome Doctrine of faith For it is opposed to prophane and vaine babblings and oppositions of sciences falsely so called verse 20. Also the word erred shewed as much for errour is to bee vnderstood of Doctrine and not of the gift of faith it selfe And thus is Faith taken in 1. Tim. 4. 1. Reuel 2. 5. Remember from whence thou art fallen Answ 1. Here is no mention of losse of faith of which the question is Secondly by falling here is not to be vnderstood of a totall or finall falling away but onely the decay of loue not being in him in such a degree as at the first For this Angell had yet very excellent graces in him workes labour patience zeale against false Teachers hating those whom God hated hauing patience and not fainted Reuel 2. 3 6. If he fainted not he had not lost his faith This place is therefore rather against our Aduersaries then any thing for them But our Gagger gazing about without iudgement where-euer hee found a word sounding to his fancy though nothing to purpose that hee will set downe He should haue remembred that euery sticke will not make a gagge for euery mouth Luk. 19. 24. Take from him the pound Answ 1. This is a Parable and therefore affordeth no sound demonstration by argument in a matter of controuersie Secondly if the words be to be vrged he lost not his pound but it was taken from him and then when iudgement was to bee executed vpon him Mat. 25. 30. Our question is of losing it here before iudgement Thirdly by pound here is not meant sauing faith of which the question is but some common graces afforded to Castawayes such as this man was Matth. 25. 30. which if not wel vsed or abused God may depriue a man of But where is it read that God will take away his sauing grace from any man and damne them Matth. 25. 8. And the foolish said vnto the wise Giue vs of your oyle for our Lamps are gone out Answ 1. This is a parabolicall speech and therefore is not fit for argumentation in a controuerted point Secondly by Lamps and Oyle are meant not iustification or iustifying faith or adoption or Christ being made our Wisedome for then could not the receiuers bee deciphered by the name of foolish Virgins But some other more common graces which in some receiuers vanish in others are fed and increased vnto a due progresse of life and light putting them into a true state of iustification This was only in the wise Virgins The foolish had onely a false fire or blaze of some good beginning which neuer came to growth and herein they represent the Reprobates Heb. 6. 4 5 6. It is impossible for those which were once enlightened and haue tasted of the heauenly gift and were made partakers of the holy Ghost and haue tasted the good Word of God and the powers of the world to come if they should fall away to renew them againe to repentance c. Answ 1. This is but a supposition with an If they should fall away He teacheth not positiuely that such may fall away Secondly grant that such may fall away It is meant of Reprobates and not of the Elect For they here are said to be enlightened and but to taste of the heauenly gift and Word of God c. But the Elect doe more then taste for they receiue it digest and concoct it and finde nourishment and strength thereby Againe these are such as cannot be renued by repentance which is such a falling as neuer happeneth to the Elect. Moreouer these are such as make a generall Apostacie crucifying to themselues afresh the Sonne of God and euen sinne against the holy Ghost which the Elect in Christ cannot doe So by this Text we see that they which haue these gifts and illuminations may fall totally from Christ But there bee proper graces to the Elect and such things as accompany saluation which as the Apostle was perswaded were in the Hebrewes though he thus spake vnto them verse 9. Ezek. 18. 24 26. When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousnesse Ans 1. There is a righteous man seeming so before men Mat. 9. 13. but is not before God such a one may turne from his righteousnesse and such a one is here meant For this righteous man here so falls as that he may commit all the abominations that the wicked doth verse 24 and dye therein verse 26. and so apostate finally but a righteous man before God doth not so for he shineth more and more vnto the perfect day Prou. 4. 18. and shall be in euerlasting remembrance Psal 112. 6. and his memory is blessed Prou. 10. 7. Secondly there is a double righteousnesse the one Legall and the other Euangelicall which is the righteousnesse of faith that is the righteousnesse of Christ applyed to vs by faith and so made ours which cannot be lost because it is Christs But the other may and this is the righteousnesse which here the Prophet speaketh of For this righteousnesse is such as is blotted out by sinne and which in the day of trespasse shall not be mentioned as not being able to cleere him before God vers 24. But Euangelicall righteousnes is not blotted out in the day of mans transgression but is able to pacifie Gods wrath and keepe the repentant in Gods fauour Besides these many obiected places against the assurance of saluation they alledge reasons especially these which to the ignorant carry a great shew Obiection First that God in the Scripture doth not speake particularly by name to any that he shal be saued And therfore no mā can haue faith to beleeue certainly himselfe to be saued because there is not any such particular word of personall saluation to any man Answ There is in effect as much counteruailing a particular promise as if the true-hearted Beleeuer were personally named The promises are propounded in general It is true that in Gods book we find the proposition only in this māner Mar. 16. 16. He that beleeueth and is baptized shall be saued Ioh. 3. 15. Whosoeuer beleeueth in him shall not perish but haue life euerlasting Act. 10. 43. Whosoeuer beleeueth in him shall receiue remission of sinnes and shall not be ashamed Rom. 9. 33. 10. 11. The assumption or Minor is suggested by experience I beleeue Thence the conscience with comfort inferreth the conclusion necessarily following Therefore I shall not perish but haue life euerlasting First these and such like promises in generall to all include particular persons Whence it is that sometime they are propounded singularly in the second person If thou confesse with thy mouth the Lord Iesus and beleeue in thine heart thou shalt bee saued Rom. 10. 9. Awake thou that sleepest and arise from the dead and Christ shall giue thee light Ephes 5. 14. Thus speaking as to particular men Secondly Gods Ministers
come to them and blesse them Chap. 20. 24. to be high aboue all Nations to praise name and honour to be a holy people Deut. 26. 19. to circumcise their heart and the heart of their seed to loue him with all their heart and soule Deut. 30. 6. to be with them not to leaue them nor forsake them Deut. 31. 8. yea he promised that no new god should be among Psal 81. 9. them nor they to adore a strange god Psal 80. 10. Mount Sion was not to be remoued but to abide for euer and peace to be on Israel Psal 105. 1. whom he would redeeme from all Psal 1â—â— 1. Psal 13â— 8. Psal 132. 13 14 iniquities Psal 129. 8. He chose Sion and that to be his rest for 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Psal 13â— 13 14. their way was to be the way of Holinesse and so direct that fooles should not erre by it Esay 35. 8. and such as erred in the Spirit should know vnderstanding the mutterer should learne the Law Esa 29 24. and they should haue Pastors according to the Lords owne heart which should feed them with knowledge and doctrine Ier. 3. 15. To conclude Israel had a promise to be saued with eternall saluation they should not be confounded and ashamed for euer and euer Esay 45. 17. yea that we may know that the promises were not to the people then liuing onely the Lord saith I will powre out my Spirit vpon their seede and my blessing vpon thy stocke Esay 44. 3. and touching the Temple thus saith God to Salomon I haue sanctified this House to put my Name there for euer and mine eyes and my heart shall be there 1. King 9. 3. alwayes 3. Kin. 9. 3. Yet for all these so gracious promises she erred she hath fallen away and remaineth in her sinnes We haue heard out of their owne Bible First how the Churches defection hath beene foretold Secondly how she also hath beene found guiltie Thirdly the same proued by Historie of the Bible from the beginning in Adam and Eue till Christ though the Church of Israel had admirable meanes to vphold it to which I do adde this last From Christs comming till Iohns being in Pathmos In this space we may finde errours in the Church The Apostles themselues before Christs Ascension were in an error touching Christ his Kingdome dreaming of a temporall kingdome Act. 1. 6. Luk. 24. 21. of restoring the kingdome to Israel and redeeming them so as they did striue among themselues which of them should be greatest Luk 22. 24. and hereupon it was that the mother of Zebedees children desired of him for her sonnes that one might sit in his Kingdome on the right hand and the other on the left Mat. 20. 20 21. Their knowledge was very imperfect for it is said often that they vnderstood not many things Mat 15. 16. Luk. 9. 45. and 10. 34. Ioh. 12. 16. and 29. yea so slow of heart and dull of hearing they were that Christ telleth them that he had many things to say to them but that then they were not able to beare theÌ„ Ioh. 16. 12. their faith was verie weake as appeareth by his calling of them Ye of little faith Mat. 8. 26 and 16. 8. Slow of heart to beleeue what the Prophets had spoken Luk. 24. 25. Also by their forsaking him and flying from him when he was taken Mat. 26 56. After Christs Ascension and the comming downe of the holy Ghost they were ignorant for a time in this that they did not thinke it was lawfull to go to the Gentiles as we may see in Peter Act. 10 15. 20. and the other Iewes vers 45. compared with Cap. 11. 2 3 18 19. The Churches of Galatia erred so as S. Paul said that he feared lest hee had laboured in vaine Gal. 4. 11. I neede not here speake of errors and Heresies creeping in troubling the Church and deceiuing many as in Act. 15. 2. 1. Tim 1. 3 6 7 19. 20. 2. Tim 2. 18 19. 1. Cor. 15. 12. Ephesus fell from her first loue Reu. 2. 4 Pergamus had in her such as vpheld the doctrine of Balaam and of the Nicolaitans Reu. 2 14. Thyatira tolerated Iezabel to reach and seduce Christs seruants Reu. 2. 20. Sardis was an hypocriticall Church and in a dying condition and Laodicea luke-warme rich in conceit but miserable naked blinde and poore in condition Reu. 3. 2 16 17. S. Paul telleth Timothy that all that were in Asia were departed from him 2. Tim. 1. 15. Thus was the Churches state euen in the Apostles dayes By which we may see the Church subiect to erre and to hold the contrary that she cannot erre Antiquitie is against Contraried by Antiquitie Origen Hom. 6. in Ezek. The Citie of God as long as she erreth not or doth not sinne hath God to her Father but when she beginneth to erre her father is an Amorite and her mother an Hittite he then thought she might erre Ierome complaineth in Dialog aduers Lucifer That the whole world groaned and wondered to see it selfe Arian Did not he thinke then that the Church might erre Aug. lib. 2. cap 18. Retract speaking of the Church on earth saith that by reason of ignorance and infirmities of her members the whole Church hath cause to say euery day Forgiue vs our trespasses Basil epist 70. telleth vs that Satan had in his time begun to sow the seedes of Apostasie in those places where the Gospell of the Kingdome first arose vp striuing to spread it into the whole World He speakes of Apostasie which is more then erring What meant Hilarie cont Auxentium when he said The Church is lost and wee are fallen into the time of Antichrist whose ministers do transforme themselues into Angels of light without all feeling or conscience of Christ Vincent Lvren aduers profan Nou. ca. 4. hath said that not only some portion of the Church but the whole Church it selfe is blotted with some new contagion Gainesaid by some of their owne Pope Innocent saith in the Canon Law The Churches Iudgement Decret Greg. li. 3. de sent excom ca. 28. A nobis est saepe Super 5. de sent excom Anobis 2. oftentimes followeth opinion which many times falleth out both to deceiue vs and to be deceiued it selfe Panormitan thus writeth A generall Councell representing the whole Church may erre in excommunicating him that should not bee excommunicate If in a matter of this nature where proofes may bee brought before sentence pronounced how much more in points of a higher nature without the Scripture for the guide A generall Councell is called the whole Church representadue If therfore this erre theÌ„ may the Church erre for how can the Churches voyce else be heard except in Can. 6. the Scriptures But by their owne confession generall Councels haue erred for the first Councell at Nice of 318. Bishops made the Bishop of Romes gouernment no more then that of Alexandria That at Ephesus of 200.
Bishops with the Councell at Chalcedon of 630. Bishops gaue to the See of Constantinople equall priuiledge with Rome But in these things say the Papists the Councels erred therefore in some things generall Councels may erre euen in that point which to the Papists is most fundamentall being the very soule and essence of Popery in that part which consisteth in vsurpation and tyrannous dominion ouer all other Churches The Scriptures obiected answered Esay 59. 21. This is my Couenant with them My Spirit that is vpon thee and my words which I haue put into thy mouth shall not depart out of thy mouth nor out of the mouth of thy seed nor out of the mouth of thy seedes seede saith the Lord from henceforth and for euer Answ 1. I answere that the Prophet speakes here of Gods Couenant with them that is with those that turne from transgression in Iacob and so of the faithfull and elect and not of the Church visible of which we speake II. Here is no promise that the Church shall not erre but that he will bestow on them which exercise the Ministery his Spirit and his Word continually for the Churches good III. If he will needs hence conclude that the Church cannot erre 1. He must proue that the Teachers doe euer teach the truth by Gods Spirit and by Gods Word which are to go together Ioh. 14. 26. and 16. 13. Mat. 18. 19 20. 2. That the hearers the members of the Church doe euer receiue beleeue and follow their Teachers thus teaching by the Word and holy Spirit which two things rest for him to make good ad Graecas Calendas IV. This promise made must needs be vnderstood conditionally of the visible Church and of an ordinary Ministery for Esay tells vs afterwords how they vexed Gods Spirit chap. 63. 10. We see how the Church of the Israelites and that at Ierusalem hath been cast off of God and hath now neither Word nor Spirit of God to direct it Christ found her Teachers in his time full of errors as they grieuously erred before 2. King 16. 11. 2. Chron. 36. 14 16. Esay 56. 10. Ier. 5. 1. Mal. 2. 8. And we know by experience in our times and by faithfull relation aforetimes that Teachers haue erred and people haue not euer embraced the truth when sound Teachers haue deliuered it let Christs hearers be instance for all and those in Iury which heard the Apostles V. If this were a good argument where Gods Spirit and his Word is there can be no errour then would it follow that no ordinary member of Christ should euer erre for such a one hath Gods Spirit 1. Ioh. 2. 20 27. Rom. 8. 9. 2. Cor. 1. 21. and his Word Deut. 33. 3. by which they become beleeuers Ioh. 17. 20. But this I hope a Papist will not grant and yet the argument is the same Ioh. 14. 16. I will pray the Father and he shall giue you another Comforter that he may abide with you for euer euen the Spirit of truth Answ 1. This place is primarily to be vnderstood of the Apostles to whom the promise of guiding into all truth was a speciall priuiledge Mat. 10. 20. Ioh. 14. 26. and 16. 13. 2. Of the succeeding Teachers but with no such speciall priuiledge for first there are no such promises made to them Secondly experience teacheth that they haue wanted this priuiledge Thirdly the hearers haue libertie to search and trie that which is deliuered if they doubt 1. Thes 5. 21. 1. Ioh. 4. 1. Ioh. 5. 39. Act. 17. 11. Waldensis one of their owne side saith Li. 2. ca. 19. de Doct. sid of particular Pastors and Bishops We know that these haue often erred 3. Neither the abiding of the Spirit for euer where it is nor the title of Spirit of truth will enforce euer an infallibility in teaching for it is called the Spirit of sanctification or holinesse Rom. 1. 4. for that he worketh in vs holinesse and is euer abiding in the godly who are the Temple of the holy Ghost and yet are they not so sanctified but they often offend in life So is it the Spirit of truth because it enlightneth the minds of men with onely that which is truth and guideth them in the truth if they follow their guide but if they doe not they may yea and doe erre from the truth Mat. 18. 17. If he neglect to heare the Church let him be to thee as an Heathen and a Publican Answ 1. This is meant of an euident case proued by witnesses before the Church in matters of offence betweene one priuate man and another wherein the Church may giue right sentence if she will yet we see such as meddle in the Churches censures doe not euer proceede aright This place therefore is not to the matter of doctrine and determination of faith the point in question neither doth it proue that in her censure the Church cannot erre for saith their owne Panormitan as before is cited A generall Councell representing the whole Church may erre in excommunicating him that should not be excommunicate These words speake not of the Churches either not erring or erring but of other hearing the Church and how they should carry themselues towards such as will not in so cleare a case heare the Churches admonition 3. It s not here commanded that he should be held as a Heathen and Publican that would not heare the Church in whatsoeuer she saith for Christ here speakes of the Iewish Church then as appeareth by the name Heathen and Publican which were abhorred of the Iewish Church Now that Church wee reade did excommunicate a blind man which receiued sight for his professing of Christ Ioh. 9. 34. and had agreed to put any man out of the Synagogue which should confesse Iesus to bee Christ v 22. and did also forbid to teach in his name Act. 4. 18. 4. This place is spoken of some Ecclesiasticall Gouernours if it be extended to vs hauing the power of censures in a particular Church which the Learned in their Church doe confesse may erre and therefore this helpes not to proue that the Church cannot erre Esay 35. 8. And a high way shall be there and away and it shall be called The way of holinesse the vncleane shall not passe ouer it but it shall be for those the way-faring men though fooles shall not erre therein Answ I. This verse is wholly allegoricall and therfore cannot so well be inforced for dogmaticall proofe without a full explanation of the words which the Gagger should haue done II. It is altogether against himselfe in the exposition if hee either durst or had been able to haue set it downe for by high-way may be vnderstood the common profession or points of Religion for good and bad as the high-way is for all then the way of holinesse is taken for a more strict profession or more straight Rules of Religion If so then consider the persons who they bee that shall not