volume of Controuersies betweene the Protestants and the Papists CHAP. 1. Of the holy Scriptures The holy Scripture alone is the Iudge of all controuersies which arise in the Church and the most certaine rule of truth REASONS THE Prophet Isaie sendes vs in deciding of coÌ„trouersies of Religion to the law and to the testimonie Isai 8. 20. that is to the holy Scripture Christ in the controuersie of his person â—nd doctrine saith to the Pharisies Search â—he Scriptures c. they are they which teâ—tifie of mee Ioh. 5 39. Saint Paul greatly commendeth the holy Scriptures vnto vs saying The whole Scripture is giuen by inspiration of God and is profitable to teach to improue to correct and instruct in righteousnes that the man of God may bee absolute being made perfect vnto euery good worke 2 Timoth 3 16 17. The Citizens of Beraea iudged of Pauls Sermons opinions out of the Scriptures whether Paul taught such things as were agreeable to the holy Scriptures and are for that cause commended Act 17 11. Christ answered out of the Scriptures to the questions of the Pharisies Matthew 19 4 c. of the Sadducees Matth 22 31 c. of the perfect fulfilling of the law Luke 10. 26 27. of his diuinitie out of Psalme 110 Matthew 22 43 44. Whereas hee might haue confuted and confounded them with his miracles alone The Apostles confirmed all their assertions out of the Scriptures as did also the Euangelists Matthew speaketh often of the fulfilling of the Prophets and so decides the greatest controuersie that euer was concerning the Messias out of the writings of the Prophets So Peter also prooueth out of the holy Scripture that Iesus is the promised Messias the Sauiour of the worlde Acts 2 25 c. And Chapter 3. verse 18 c. and Chapter 4 verse 11 25 c. and Chap. 10 verse 43 Stephen fighteth against his aduersaries the Priests Pharisies Scribes with the weapons of the Scripture Acts 7. Paul in the controuersie of Religion which he had with the Iewes prouokes to the law and the writings of the Prophets Acts 24 14 and 26 22 27. The same Paul gathered the doctrine of Iustification out of the Scripture Romanes 1 2 3 4 and 10 Chapters Galath 3 and 4 Chapter and cleareth the controuersie of the person of our Sauiour out of the Scriptures Ephesians 4. Peter draweth Baptisme 1 Peter 3. 21 And other controuersed points betwixt the Iewes and the Christians out of the Scripture of the old â—estament The Epistle to the Hebrewesis wholly heerein occupied to proue the greatest controuersie of his time concerning Christ the only true high Priest out of the Scripture of the old Testament The same did likewise the ancient Fathers in the Church of God who confuted the Heretikes out of the holy Scripture and the ancient godly Counsels ouerthrew the Heretikes not by the opinions of men but by testimonies of the holy Scripture dulie waighed The Position of our Aduersaries The holy Scripture alone cannot be the Iudge of controuersies Their reasons are Because it is insufficient and containeth not all things which pertaine to faith Because it is obscure Because it is vncertaine and may be drawne either to this or that side Hence arise these questions following The first question Whether the Scripture be insufficient They affirme we denie that it is insufficient and that for these testimonies following These things are written saith Iohn that you might beleeue that Iesus is the Christ the Sonne of God and that in belieuing you might haue life through his name Ioh. 20. 31. Therefore those which belieue may attaine euerlasting life by those thinges which are left writteÌ„ in the holy Scriptures and so the Scripture is sufficient for the saluation of men Thou hast knowne the holy Scriptures of a childe saith Paul to Timothie which are able to make thee wise to saluation 2. Timothie 3. 15. All things that I haue heard of my Father haue I made knowne to you Iohn 15 15. The holy Scripture doth mâ—ke â—he man of God absolute and perfect to euery good worke 2 Timo 3 17. I kept back nothing but shewed you all the counsell of God Act 20 27. There can be moued no controuersie of Religion for which the Scripture hath not afore hand prouided a deciding or determining sentence therefore Saint Paul in the controuersie of Iustification calleth the Scripture prouident or fore-seeing Galath 3 8. Contrariwise our Aduersaries reason thus 1 The Apostles taught many things which are not written Answer 1. This is a begging of the question for this same thing is it which is denied Now a doubtfull thing ought not to bee proued by an other as doubtfull 2 The contrarie heereto is contained in the places of Scriptures before alleadged 3 The Apostles should heereby be conuinced of vnfaithfulnes as hauing kept back things necessary to saluation 4 Moreouer there is extant not one onely writing of an Apostle or Euangelist but more that that which is not contained in one may plainely be seene in other of the Apostles writings 2 I haue yet many thinges to say vnto you but you cannot beare them now Ioh. 16 12 Answer 1. It is a fallacie from that which is saide in some particular respect to the same spoken absolutely and generally in all respects for Christ speaketh of his Apostles not yet illuminated by his holy Spirit but he speaks not of them as beeing endued with the holie Ghost in the day of Pentecost That which the worde Now dooth plainely declare 2. While our Aduersaries argue from the Apostles not enlightened to the Church instructed by the writings of the Apostles there arise in the Syllogisme foure termes 3 Besides it was one manner of knowledge which the Apostles had before the day of Pentecost and an other after the receiuing of the holy Ghost therefore these different thinges ought not to bee confounded 3 Other thinges saith Saint Paul will I set in order when I come 1 Corinthians 11 34 therefore Paul did not write all things Answer Paul speakes of indifferent Ceremonies in the Church not of articles of Religion necessarie to saluation Their Argument therefore as the saying is is from the staffe to the corner 4 Manie thinges are not contained in the holy Scripture which are necessarie to faith Ans 1. This we denie it is the very thing in question therefore it is a begging of the question 2. Our Aduersaries play with the word Faith for they meane not a true and sauing faith whereof our question is but in a large sence they take the word Faith vnfitlie wrapping in the word Faith euery friuolous toy long after the Apostles time as it were yesterday obtruded vpon the Church of Christ and so from the two-fold signification of the word Faith there arise foure termes which hinder that there can be no iust conclusion 5 The Scripture saith nothing of Christs descension into hell Answere That is most false for the
truth it did not belong vnto them 3 That after the canon of the Scripture was perfected yet neuerthelesse the inuocatioÌ„ of Saints was vnknowen and that yet notwithstanding Christians might beelâ—ued as Iohn witnesseth of his Gospel â—ap 20 ver 31. 4 Seeing the Apostles wrote all things necessary to saluation Act 20 27. Ioh 20 31 and the holy Scripture is such as maketh a man perfect to euery good work 2 Timoth 3 17. It followeth heereof that either these things are not true which are heere spoken of the scripture or that it is a lye that inuocation of saints is necessary to saluation 5 It followeth that inuocation of Saints hath none other grounds than lying miracles froÌ„ which God dehorteth vs De 13 2 3. 2 Thes 2 9. Isay 8 19. 6. It followeth also that all those papists doe impudently and against their conscience which being of Eckius his minde do go about to proue inuocation of saints by sayings of the Scripture 7 It followeth also that because inuocation of Saints is not contained in Scripture were it neuer so voidâ— of sinne yet no man were bound to accept of it The Scripture biddeth vs worship and pray vnto God alone 1 Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God him only shalt thou serue Mat 4 10 Deut 6. 13. and 10 20. 2. Call vpon Mee in the day of trouble Psa 50 15. 3. I will not giue My glory vnto an other Isa 48. 11. 4. Christ bid vs pray Our Father c. Matt. 6. 9. 5 Come vntoâ—e all ye that are weary c. Matth 11. 28. Hee is to be prayed vnto whom we may call vpon in faith But faith is by the Word of God Rom 10 17. Therefore because we haue no word to stir vp our faith with promise of being heard or to command vs so to do nay because it is an horrible sinne and religion forbiddeth vs to belieue on Saints doubtlesse it is vnlawfull also to pray vnto them But neither may wee pray vnto Saints as to mediatours because the holy Scripture doth ascribe the glory of mediation to none but to Christ alone 1. So he is called the Mediatour of the New Testament Heb. 9 15. 2. There is one GOD and one Mediatour betweene God and man which is the man Christ Iesus who gaue himselfe a ransome for all men 1 Timo 2 5 6. Now 1 This vnity is taken away if there be erected moe Mediatours 2 And the saintâ— gaue not themselues a ransome for vs therefore c. â— If any man sin we haue an Aduâ—cate with the Father Iesus Christ the iâ—st 1 Ioh 2 1. But Saints are noâ— Iesus Christ the Iâ—st â— Verily verily I say vnto you whatsoeuer ye shall aske the Father in My Name Hee will giue it you Ioh 14 13 16 23. â— No man commeth vnto the Father but by Me Ioh 14 6. By the doctrine of the inuocatioÌ„ of Saints Christians are bereaued of that confidence in the loue mercy of Christ the Sonne of God in trust whereof they ought to pray as if Christ were not truly a brother toward vs as if He were not mercifull and a louer of mankinde but such a one as would not be appeased and a fearefull Iudge euen to the repentant vnlesse hee were first pacified by some Intercessour or Saint The contrarie whereof is proued in Scripture 1 In all things it became him to bee made like vnto his brethren that he might bee As the Priest was a mediator betweene God and the peoplâ— so Christ in one and the same word is called a Priest a Mediator He. 2 17 18 mercifull a faithfull High Priest in things concerning God that he might make reconciliation for the sinnes of the people for in that He suffered and was tempted Hee iâ— able to suâ—â—ouâ— them that are tempted 2 Seeing then that wee haue a great high Priest which is entred into heauen euen It 〈◊〉 â—lâ—â— Sonne of God let vs holde â—aâ—â— our profession For we haue not an higâ— Prâ—est which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities but was in alâ— things tempted in like sort yet without sinne Let vs therefore goe bouldly vnto the throne of grace that we may receiâ—â— merâ—y and finde grace to help in time oâ— neede Heb. 4 14. 1â— 16. 3. Wherfore he is able also perfectly to save them which come vnto God by him seeing he euer liueth to make intercession for them Heb 7. 25. 4 The Lord is gracious and mercifull slowe to anger and of great mercie Psal 145 8. Num 14 18. Yea and God the Father also is mercifull towards repentant sinners for the intercessioÌ„ of his Sonne so that there is no â—â—â—dâ— of the intercession of Saints 1. The Lord is ful of compassion mercie slow to anger of great goodnes He will not alway chide nor keepe his anger for euer He hath not dealt with vs after our sins nâ—râ—â—warded â—s according to our iniquities Heere the implacable popish god is not proposed vnto vs to whom wee should not daâ—e to come but by the medâ—ation of Saints For as high as the heauen is aboue the earth so great is his mercy toward theÌ„ that feâ—â—e him As far as the â—ast is fâ—oÌ„ the west so far hath he remoued our sins fâ—oÌ„ vs. As a father hath compassion on his children so hath the Lord compassion on them that feaâ—e him Psal 103. 8 9 c. 2 Hereto belong all the penitentiall fermoÌ„s of the prophets wherein God openeth his ready and willing minde Ezech 18 33 chap. and many other places 3 Paul in the 8 th to the Romans is wholy herein busied to shew vs with what confidence we should cometo God by his Son with the â—roâ—â—ings of the holy Spirit â—so that we should nothing doubt of the fauor of God toward vs. The â—iâ—â—â—cation of Saints is for this cause not to be â—oâ—n with be â—â—â—se the saints heare vs not yea they know not what is done on earth 1 Though Abraham be ignorant of vs Israel know vs not yet thou art our Father Isai â—3 â—6 â— Thus dooth the Prophet comfort Iosias Thou shalt bâ—â— put in thy graue in peace and thine eyes shall not see all the euill that I will bring vpon this placeâ— King 22 20. And because the most seruent prayers are often made without the voice or motion of the mouth and lippes but in the entralls of the heart and in the spirit if prayer bee directed to Saints hereby is deuine honour giuen vnto them as if they vnderstoode the thoughts of the heart which is proper to God alone 1 Thou alone knowest the hearts of all the Children of men 1 King 8 39. 2 I the Lord search the heart and trye the reines Ier 17 10. and â—0 12 Reu. 2 23. There are manie also in the popish catalogue of Saints of whom there is great doubt they be not glorified in Heauen And many of them
certaine precepts to the Corinthians which they did well that they obserued them 1 Corin. 11 2. Answ The same answer which was giuen to the first obiection fits this too that is that there is no sound proofe of all particulars The Papists should prooue that those Traditions proceeded from the Apostles which they bragge so fast to bee Apostolicke 5 The Fathers testifie that certaine Traditions came from the Apostles to them Answ 1. The Fathers many times by the name of Traditions vnderstand such things as are contained in the Scripture according to the sence and meaning thereof though not according to the Letter And in this sence there bee in the reason foure termes the Fathers vnderstanding Traditions contained in the Scriptures the Papists Traditions not at all there contained 2 The Fathers by Traditions Apostolick vnderstand sometimes generall customes and rites of indifference which was in the liberty of the Church to alter as occasion should require 3. If any of the Fathers haue maintained other sort of Traditions as Apostolick then the question is whether they did well in accepting such Traditions for Apostolicke which were not Apostolick neither did coÌ„sent with the holy Scripture 6 That infants should be baptized that the Eucharist should bee deliuered to women c. wee haue receiued from vnwritten Tradition onely Answ 1. The Antecedent is not true for concerning the former wee haue Scripture that Baptisme is needfull for all and that it doth belong vnto Infants Iohn 3 5. Mark 10 14 15 16. 1 Corinthians 1 16 c. 2 The Trent Catechisme proueth the Baptisme of Infants by diuers places of Scripture Part 2. cap. 2 quaest 26. As for the latter that the Eucharist belongeth to the whole Church and so vnto women wee haue Christs commandement Math 26 26 27 28. Mark 14 22 c. Luk 22 19 20. 1 Cor 11 26 27 28. 7 The obseruation of the Lords day is not found in the Scripture Ans Seeing it is acknowledged by both sides by the Papists as well as by the Protestants that to set a certaine time a part for Gods seruice is a morall and immurable law and that the Apostles left to the Church the first day of the weeke which is the Lords day in Parte tertiâ— ca. 4 quaest 4. steede of the seuenth day which the Iewes obserued as the Trent Catechisme proueth out of 1 Corint 16 2 and Reuel 1 10 We ought to acknowledge it as a precept of God grounded on the Scriptures CHAP. 5. Of the Letter and the Spirit THE Papists seeke themselues an other starting hole when as they cannot proue See Fran. Coster in his Enchiridion of CoÌ„trouersies Cap 1 of thâ— holy Scripture out of the holy Scripture many their Idolatrous and superstitious opinions to say that the Scripture is a dead and killing letter but the Spirit that is the meaning of the Scripture is contained in the liuing tables of the heart of the Church that therefore all things ought to be iudged determined not out of the Scrip but by the consent of the Church So for examples sake whereas nothing is found in the letter of the Scripture concerning the worshipping of Images that say they is to bee sought for in the hearts of the faithfull that is of the Pope Cardinalls c Wherein the holy Spirit hath written it that Images are to be worshipped As for vs we acknowledge no other Scripture wherein God doth by writing reueale his will beside the sacred bookes of the Bible and this spirituall Scripture of the Papists we reiect Because the holy Scripture described and comprised in letters deserueth this praise that it can make a man perfect therefore vnto There is one manner of Spirit in the outward Scripture another in the inward which are coÌ„trary one to another concerning the authoritie of the Scripture Note heere the Spirit of Christ and Antichrist perfection there is no neede of any other new spirituall Scripture 2 Because that spirituall Scripture which the Papists forge doth disanull the authoritie of the holy Scripture penned in paper by the instinct of the holy Ghost But the holy Ghost cannot be so contrarie to it selfe as to commend highly the Scripture by the Apostles and Prophets and to diminish the authoritie of the same by an inward Scripture 3 Because this inward Scripture is manifestly proued to bee often ontrarie to the outward Therefore the holâ— Ghost if he be the Author of both should â—â— conuicted either of falshood or inconstanie By this meanes we should it open a wide gap to all errours whiles euey man would brag of the inward writing oâ— the holy Spirit and would compare it witâ— and preferre it before the holy Scripture Besides this sauours strongly of the error of the Enthusiasts and Schweneldians on this wise This inward Scripture or writing is either mediate or immediate if mediate then the Scripture keepes his old standing to be the meanes and Rule of this inward writing if immediate then they manifestly fall into the error of the Enthusiasts but our Aduersaries accept not of the former therfore of the later All the paines which the Euangelists and Apostles did take in penning the Scriptures were bootlesse if wee should take no more heede to their writings than to such a like inward Schwenfeldian writing Contrarily our Aduersaries doe argue 1 The Letter killeth but the Spirit giueth life 2 Corin 3â— Therefore we are not to heede the Scripture wâ—tten with inke but the inward Scripture of thâ— Spirit sealed in the heart of the Church Ans 1. Tâ—â—t Paul doth not speake of any inward or oâ—tward distinction of writing but of the diference of the law and the Gospell the wâ—rdes immediatly going before A view of a Doctour like exposition proceeding froÌ„ the inward writing of the heart doe shew â—od saith S Paul hath made vs able Ministâ—rs of the new Testament not of the â—etter bâ—t of the Spirit 2 So then there are fiue terâ—es taking the word Letter in the Antecedent or former proposition according to Paules meaning for the Lawe and in the consequent or later proposition for the whole body of the holy Scripture according to the Papists meaning and vnderstanding the word Spirit in the Antecedent for the Gospell and in the consequent for Enthusiasme or immediate inspiration from God the argument therefore hangeth together like sand Now S. Paul calleth the law a killing letter because that no man can bee iustified and saued by the law but the Lawe doth rather condemne and spiritually kill But he calls the Gospell Spirit because the Gospel receiued by faith doth giue the holy Spirit which doth quicken our harts create them a new stir them vp to good workes 2 I will put my Lawe in their inward parts and write it in their harts c. Ierem 31 33. therfore the will of GOD is to bee learned not out of the outward but inward Scripture or writing
power receaued from God 3 The word heere vsed translated by the Latine Interpreter potuisti signifieth to be able to do any thing somtime to be of strength or to be strong in doing any thing the meaning of the prophet is the they kept no measure but with all their strength and power committed sinne 9 The just man might offend and hath not offended and do evill and hath not done it Eccl. 31. 10. Therefore c. Ans 1 There is more in the conclusion than in the premises For all that follows is this that the righteous man might reframe from transgressing but it doth not hence follow that he could doe it of himselfe 2. The Author speaketh of an outward matter name ly the outward vse of money Therefore it is nothing to the purpose 3 If it be meant of spirituall matters never so much yet the argument followes not from a righteous and regenerate man whose will is freed by the Holy-Ghost to a man vnregenerate 10 I will sacrifice freely vnto thee c Ps 54 6. Answere 1 Againe this argument proceedes from a regenerate man to an vnregenerate 2 and that this willingnesse and voluntarie service was not in David of himselfe it is plaine because he could not of himselfe acknowledge his sinn of adulterie and manslaughter vntill he was admonished therof by the Prophet 11 Cornelius could of his owne accord prepare himselfe to the grace of God and dispose himselfe to the acknowledgement of saluation Act 10. 4 c. Ans Cornelius was before amongst the lewes instructed out of the Scriptures concerning the Messias so that onely hee did doubt of the person of the Messias therefore it is sayd of him that hee was a deuoute man and one that feared God c. and prayed God continually Verse 2 therefore this argument proceedes from a regenerate man to an vnregenerate For Cornelius did alreadie believe the sayings of the Prophets concerning the Messias but did not yet know that those things were fulfilled in Iesus Christ of Nazareth 12. Euerie Man that hath hope in God pargeth himselfe 1 Iohn 3. 3. Answere 1 Hee speakes of the regenerate which have hope and trust in God by faith 2 Neither dooth hee speake of their conuersion but of their renouation or sanctification which followes conuersion and hath his growth and increasing in the regenerate vntill the end of their lives This argument therefore hangeth not together but hath foure termes 13. If anie man open the dore vnto me I will come in vnto him c. Revela 3. 20. Therefore a man may aforehand dispose himselfe vnto grace by his free-will Ans There is more in the Consequent than in the Antecedent For this onely is sayde what the Sonne of GOD will doo to him which openeth the dore vnto him but there is never a worde sayde by what power the heart of man is opened whether by his owne or such as he hath received frō an other 14 Hee that standeth firme in his heart that hee hath no neede but hath power over his owne will c. 1 Corinthians 7 37. Ans Hee speakes of things meerely externall of marrying or not marrying Therfore this is impertinent 15 Euerie man as he hath determined in his heart c 2 Corinth 9 7. Ans 1 The speech is of the regenerate 2. And of externall matters that is of giving of Almes There are therefore fiue termes 16 Yet not I to wit haue wrought but the Grace of God as the Papists expound it hath wrought with mee 1 Corinth 15 10. Therfore our strength doth worke in our conversion and not God alone Ans 1 Paul speakes not of his conuersion but of the labour of his Ministerie by which GOD did worke 2. The text speakes of Paul being regenerated 3 Paul disables himselfe in respect of all things even those that concerne his ministerie and ascribes them to God alone in the wordes going before where hee sayth By the grace of God I AMTHAT I AM and his grace which is in me was not in vaine c. yet not I but the grace of God which is with me Heere is therfore made a great confusion of the tearmes or words 1 with mee that is I and God by ioynt working 2 with mee that is in mee 3. the regenerate 4 the vnregenerat 5 conuersion 6. Ministerie 17 We are Gods Cooperarii fellow-workers 1 Corinth 3. 9. Ans 1 He speakes of his ministerie not of his conuesiron 2 And if it could be racked to his renued state yet were it then an argument from the regenerate to the vnregenerate 3 The Latine and Greeke phrase is ambiguous and may either signifie that we are fellow workers with God or we fellow workers amongst our selues are the workemen of God This later is the plaine meaning of the place and therefore to avoyde ambiguitie it is rightly translated we together are Gods labourers 18. If man be so enthralled vnto sinne that hee cannot conuert of himselfe he cannot iustly bee accused of sinne vnles God will accuse nature Ans 1 God doth accuse nature not simply as it is in it selfe but in some respect as it is corrupted 2 The first man before hee fell had the power of his free-will which hee should haue preserued Man therefore is neverthelesse iustly accused of his corruption There remaine yet besides this first now ended three other questions moe in this matter of free will which wee must needes discusse 1 of Originall sinne 2. of the works of infidells 3 of Grace QVESTION 1. Of Originall sinne The Iesuites at this day doe denie that Originall sinne in vs is truly and indeede sinne which they doe least they should be constrained to acknowledge the great and horrible corruption of the power of mans nature Wee on the contrarie side do affirme that Originall corruption is a sin that no little or light one but a verie great one and that for these reasons Because the holy Scripture giveth plainly the name of sinne vnto it 1. Behold I was borne in iniquity and in sinn hath my mother conceived me Psalme 51 5. 2. Thou hast set our iniquities before thee and our secret sinnes that is originall sinn in the light of thy countenance Psalm 90 8 3 I knew not sinne but by the Lawe for I had not knowne luste except the law had sayd c. Rom 7 7. 4. Now if I doo that I would not it is no more I that doe it but the sinne that dwelleth in me Rom 7 20. Because seeing it is the fountaine well-spring of all actuall sinnes Originall sinne by reason of which all the rest are sinns shall much more be such it selfe Because Originall sinn or concupiscence rebelleth against the Lawe of GOD and is not subject thereto Romans 7 23. and 8. 7. But sinne is the transgression of the Lawe 1 Iohn 3 4. See more hereof in the 13 Chap of Concupiscence Contrariwise our Aduersaries reason thus 1 Sinne is not sinne vnlesse it bee
Scripture saith thou wilt not leaue my soule in hell Psalm 16 10. The sorrowes of hell compassed mee about Psalm 18. But that these Psalmes speake not of Dauid but of Christ our Aduersaries themselues cannot denie seeing the former is alleaged of Saint Peter expreslie in his Sermon of Christ Acts 2 27. 6 The Scripture sayth nothing of the perpetual Virginitie of Marie of a certainty Therefore it is insufficient Ans 1. Be it neuer so much that the scripture say nothing at all of the perpetuall Virginitie of Marie yet might it not therefore be said to be insufficient to our saluation for we are not hereby saved because we believe that Marie after the birth of Christ remained a Virgin but because we believe in Christ who according to the Scripture Isai 7. 14 was borne of a Virgin 2. The perpetuall Virginitie of Marie may bee shewed by the phrase of Scripture where it sayth And hee knew her not Vntill She had brought forth The word Vntill doth note also perpetuitie as the Raven returned not vntill the waters were dried vp vpon the Earth Genesis 8. 7. which Raven yet never returned at all 7 Manie things are rightly believed although they be not contained in the Scriptures as the words Trinitie Essence Person c. Ans 1. A thing is sayd to bee contained in the Scriptures two manner of waves according to the letter and according to the sâ—nse by a good consequence Or sometimes the things onely sometimes together with the things the wordes signifying the things are expressed also So the thing of Trinitie and Persons in the Deitie the Scripture expresseth Mat 3 16 17 28 19. Althogh the very words be not coÌ„tained there 2 We are not heerby saved for that wee vse and approve these words which were invented for a more easie and plaine waye of teaching but for that we steadfastly believe the thing it self which is found in the scriptures 8 There are many bookes lost as the Epistle to the Laodiceans c. Therefore the Scripture cannot be sufficient to saluation Ans 1 There are yet remaining other bookes which are sufficient 2 S. Iohn sayth of his Gospell alone that it containeth all things necessarie to saluation Ioh 20 31 9 The Canon of the holy Scripture which is a thing necessarie to saluation is not contained in the holy Scriptures Ans 1. The Canon is a thing necessary not of it selfe but by an accident to wit because heritickes had forged certaine counterfaite bookes which if they had not done there had been no need of a Canon 2 The true Canon is the perpetuall rule of truth which is comprised in the Scripture For therfore false counterfaite bookes are not received because they contradict the Scripture and the truth neither do agree with the authenticke Canonicall bookes 3 And the Church of Christ could for 300. yeares almost discerne the true Scriptures froÌ„ the counterfaite before the Fathers had composed the Canon and catalogue of holy writte The Canon therefore is not simply necessary and is contained after a sort in the Scripture 10 Hee shall bee called a Nazarite Mat 2 23. but this is not contained in the writings of the olde Testament Ans Yes this is typically spoken of Christ in the person of Sampson Iudg 13 5. And our Aduersaries if they be well in their witts will not reiect the types of Christ set out in the olde Testament Question 2. Whether the Scripture be obscure We deny they affirme We say it is plain for these reasons The Lawe of the LORD is perfect conuerting the soule the testimonic of the Lord is sure and giveth Wisedome to the simple Psalm 19 7 Nothing of all which the Scripture could effect especially to the simple if it were obscure The commandement of the Lord is pure and giveth light to the eyes verse 8 Thy Word is a Lanterne to my feete and a Light vnto my path Psal 119 105. Wee have a most sure worde of the Prophets to the which you doe well that you take heede as vnto a light that shineth in a darke place c. 2 Pet. 1. 19. Contrariwise our Aduersaries reason thus 1 Many sayings in the Scripture are very obscure Ans 1. We may not dispute from a part to the whole saving only particularly and of meere particulars no conclusion wil follow 2. Some things be obscure in the Scripture not of themselues but accidentally and the vaile that covers the eyes of the Iewes and other infidels is the cause thereof the word 2 Co 3 15 is not the cause 3. That which is spoken more obscurely in one place is explained more clearely in an other And so by conference of places the clearenes of the Scripture appeareth 2 Saint Peter sayth that in Pauls Epistles there be some things hard to bee vnderstood 2. Pet. 3. 16. Ans 1. Some things are hard to bee vnderstood therefore not all Heere the former answere fits this obiection that is that those things which are written of Paul more briefely and some what obscurely in one place are in other places most fully explained 2. Peter layes the fault of the obscurity vpon the vnlearned and vnstable which wrest and peruert the Word of God Now nothing was ever so plainly delivered which may not bee wrested by the frowarde to a wrong sence which is apparent in the outragious dealings of Heritikes Neither yet is the Scripture for that cause to be accused of obscuritie 3. Over and besides the greek text saith not that either the Epistles of Saint Paul or the maner of his teaching which he vseth in his Epistles is obscure but only thus much it sayth that Paul doth intreate of not onely such things as are plaine and easie for everie one to conceive but that he doth not let passe in handling of things necessarie to beknoweÌ„ such things as have in them some difficultie Which to bee so the nature of the Greeke Article En Hois which cannot answere or agree with the Antecedent En autais but with peri Toutoon accordingly also as Xantes Pagninus and Arias Montanus both of them Papists and Men very skilfull in the tongues have translated this place 3 In the Scripture are handled many things most obscure and such as cannot be found out by the wit of man to reason seeme very absurde Ans 1. They be obscure absurd to the reason of the naturall man but not to faith 2 It is not all one to say obscure things are haÌ„dled in the scriptures things are handled in the scriptures obscurely For theÌ„ by the same reason euery explication of an obscuritie should be it selfe nothing else but obscurity 4 The Greeke Hebrue Phrases breed obscurity Ans 1 To them that know not the tongues they be obscure Therefore that is but accidentally 2 This inconuenience is easily remedied by the knowledge of the tongues 3 Therefore the Primitive Church had the gifts of tongues And at this day by the singular
blessing of God there are many excellent men indued with the knowledge of the tongues who do fitly properly expound the Phrases of the Scriptures 5 There be some customes of the former ages vnknowen vnto vs as that which is said 1 Cor. 15 29. of them which are baptized for dead Ans 1. Some therefore not the whole Scripture The argument therefore goes from a part to the whole 2 Those things pertaine not to faith but to some speciall Ceremonies of the Ancients which faith is never a whit the worse if it know not 6 The Scripture handleth heavenly and high matters such as our reason cannot comprehend Ans 1. By faith wee believe the heavens were made Heb 11 3. 2. The Scripture as much as may be descendeth downe and applieth it selfe to vs and our capacitie 3. Many things are simply to be believed which in this life wee know but in parte but in that which is to come wee shall know fully 7 Some things are handled mistically as the Revelation Ans 1 Such are not Articles of faith therefore wee may be ignorant of them without losse of Saluation 8 Some cannot beare strong meate Therefore in the Scripture some things are plaine and some things are not plaine Ans 1. This is an Argument from a particular to a Generall on this fashion Some things are not vnderstood of all therefore all the Scripture is to be accused of obscuritie 2. Because the weaker sort cannot beare stroÌ„g meate the faulte is not in the meate but in their weakenesse Therefore heere is the fallacie whcih Logicians call fallacia accidentis And the stronger in tracte of time may expound the obscure things to the weaker Question 3. Whether the Scripture bee vncertaine and pliable to any sense Our Aduersaries affirme wee denie it Because If the Scripture bee plyable to any side then it will follow that either God coulde not or would not speake more distinctly that his minde might bee vnderstood Neither of which can bee sayde without great blasphemy Wee have a most sure word of the Prophets not flexible and vncertaine 2 Peter 1. The Word of our God shall stand for ever Isay 40 8. But we could not rely vpon the word of God as most true most certain if the Scripture were flexible Heauen and Earth shall passe away but my word shall not passe away Luke 21 33. If wee must belieue this word then doubtlesse it must not be flexible doubtfull and mutable Contrariwise our Aduersaries reason thus 1 In expounding of the sayings of Scripture the best Interpreters the fathers of the church doe not agree therefore the Scripture may bee drawne into diuers sences and meanings Answ The Scripture is not the cause thereof which remaines alwaies the same both for Simil. As if the motion of the stars should therfore be said to varie to change for that Alphonsus Pâ—olomie haue not hit vpoÌ„ the truest motion words meaning but the cause is the weaknes of mans iudgement Whence it coÌ„meth that one vnderstands more than an other that one hath more clearenes of iudgment than an other that one is more or lesse furnished with knowledge of tongues than an other or doth lesse diligently compare places of Scripture together and waigh the things themselues by their necessary circumstances antecedents coÌ„sequents what went before what comes after so then the Scripture is not flexible but mans iudgment is diuers therfore let vs chuse the better and refuse the worse 2 But all Heretiks do alleage for themselues the Scriptures Ans I answer 1 as to the former obiection 2 That happens not by the fault of the Scripture but the fault is in Heretikes as S. Peter saith for that they wrest and offer violence to the Scriptures haling their opinions into the Scriptures 3 Vnlesse the Scripture were certaine and free from flexibilitie it could not confute any heresie therfore it is not vncertaine 3 The Copies of the bookes of Scripture might be corrupted by the Scriueners and such as copied them out or by the Iewes Answer From what may be to what is is no good argument 2 By comparing of ancient Copies as also by the Analogie of faith if any be corrupted they may be amended 3 Againe heere is the fallacie which they call fallacia accidentis wheras the Scripture seemes to be flexible and vncertaine but of it selfe it is not but by an accident to wit through some mens negligence 4 But the Hebrue Copy in many places agrees not with the translation of the seuenty Interpreters therfore it is corrupted by the Iewes Ans That disagreeing hinders not the certainty of the Scriptures for the translation of the seuentie Interpreters is not of absolute authority in the Church of God neither is to bee compared or opposed to the Hebrew Bible whereto as to the fountaine in the diuersitie of translations we must euer haue recourse And who can assure vs that that which comonly goes now a-daies vnder their name is the right translation of the seuentie wheras it may euidently be shewed that a great part of the Latine translation of the Bible is not Hieroms which notwithstanding is thrust vpon the Church of God vnder the name of S. Hierome for this the barbarousnes of the Latine translation and ignorance of the Hebrew tongue as also the diuersitie of the stile in diuers places compared together doe apparently in many places conuince CHAP. 2. VVHether the Scriptures ought to bee read of the Lay-people Our Aduersaries denie and wee affirme it for these reasons Because the Scripture dooth make a man â—bsolute perfect to euery good work Lay men haue need of it for this purpose as well â—s the Clergie 2 Timoth 3 17. The Lord commanded that the King who is a ciuill person should read in the book of the law all the daies of his life Deut. 17. The Epistles of the Apostles were written not onely to Bishops and Clergie men but to Lay men too as appeareth by the Epistle of Paul to the Galatians wherein he warneth his Hearers that they discerne betweene false and true teachers So both the former and later Epistle to the Corinthians speaketh manie things to Lay men So likewise the Epistle of S. Iohn where the Apostle saith I write vnto you litle children c. I write vnto you fathers c. I write vnto you young men I write vnto you Babes c. 1 Iohn 2 12 13 14. Peter wrieth to the Elect strangers dispersed abroad If therfore Epistles bee written to Lay men why should they not also be read of Lay men The brethren of the rich glutton were Lay-men whoÌ„ notwithstanding Abraham sendeth to Moses and the Prophets Luke 6. 29. This was fore-told by Isay They shall be all so Lay men too taught of God Isai 54 13. We haue examples hereof in the Scriptures 1 of the Eunuch who reade Isai the Prophet Act 8 28. 2 Then of the Beraeans Act
17 11. Christ bids all in generall search the Scriptures Neither did hee giue this charge to the Priests alone but to others his hearers also Ioh 5 39. S. Peter willeth all euen Lay men too to be ready to giue an answer to euery man that asketh them a reason of the hope that is in them 1 Pet 3 15. which that they may do it is needfull that they learne it out of the Scripture Contrariwise our aduersaries reason thus 1 The Scripture hath many obscure things therefore the Lay people can reade it with profite Answ 1. Although all things be not to euery man plaine yet the people alwaies finde such things as they may vnderstand 1 those things which seeme hard by often reading become more easie 2 The Lay people by reading the Scriptures misvnderstood do easily fall into heresie it were better therefore they should refraine Ans 1. If they fall into heresie that comes accidentally not because they reade the Scriptures but because they read them not in such manner as they should do and doe preferre â—heir formerly conceiued opinions before the Scripture and wrest it to them 2 On the contrarie side good men and well minded hauing been deliuered froÌ„ herisie by reading the Scriptures haue returned to the truth 3 To whom it belongeth not to iudge of coÌ„trouersies to them neither doth it belong to read the Scriptures but it belongeth not to Lay-men to iudge of coÌ„trouersies therfore neither to read Ans 1 The Minor or second proposition is most false 2 Then had the Beraeans done amisse in reading and from thence deciding a controuersie then newely sprung vpp 3 Seeing euery one is bound to answer to God for himselfe it is needfull for euery Lay-man to proue all things and keepe that which is good 1 Thessa 5 21. 4 So should the order which discerneth betweene teachers learners be confounded Ans This we denie for a Lay hearer may try and examine those things he heareth by the Scripture remaine for all that a hearer still for he doth not therfore take vpon him the office of teaching in the church because he examineth the thinges which hee hath heard of his teacher by the touchston of the holy Scriptures As likewise the Beraeans became not therefore of the order of teachers because they iudged of the Sermons of Paul and Silas CHAP. 3 WHether the interpretation of the holy Scriptures bee to bee sought for from the Church of Rome This question arose from hence that the Papists seeing that wee did esteeme more of the holy Scripture than that we would suffer the authority thereof to be diminished and that the letter of the Scripture did manifestly make for vs did straight change the state of the question and said that the question was not of the authority of the Scripture but of the interpretation thereof the right of which interpretation they make to be so peculiar to the Church of Rome that they would binde vs to receaue any interpretations that should come from thence bee they neuer so absurd and false But we gainsay them herein and reiect the forged power wherby the Bishops of Rome make claime to the key of knowledge and interpretation as committed to them alone Reasons prouing our opinion Because the interpretations of the Papists contradict the euidences of holy Scripture as shall be most plainely prooued in his due place Because the greatest part of them are most vaine as for example that the eight Psalm is expounded by the Canonists as meant of the Pope which notwithstanding speakes of Christ alone as the Apostles and Christ himselfe haue interpreted it Because they affirme as by name Cusanus doth that if the minde and opinion of the Romane Church be changed that then the holy Ghost doth change his mind in the Scriptures too What an impious mad absurdity is this Many times they explaine not the Scripture but wrest it violently shamefully to vphold their own toyes contrary to the text of Scripture The gifts of God such as the interpretation of the Scripture is one are not tyed to certaine persons places for God distributes these his gifts to euery man as he will 1 Corinth 12 â—1 It is no where read that the whole Church is tied to the meaning of the Romaine Church but to the meaning of the holy Scripture which doth expound it selfe most clearely Contrariwise our Aduersaries doe argue 1 If we beleeue the Romane Church that it hath conuayed vnto vs the true proper books of the Bible and not counterfait and forged theÌ„ must wee belieue her also in the interpretation which she bringeth of the holy Scripture Ans 1. It is one thing to beare witnes of the truth of the sacred books and an other thing Simil â—t is one thing to acknowledge the Seals hanged to a Testament and another to expound it contrary to the Teuor of the letter to expound them So the Iewes are witnesses of the Canonicall books of the olde Testament yet we accept not of their Talmudicall interpretations 2 Moreover the interpretations of the Papists do contradict that same Scripture wherof they beare witnesse 2 The Scribes and Pharises sit in Moses chaire all therefore whatsoeuer they bid you obserue that obserue and do Mathew 23 2 3. Ans 1 The Pharisies were to be believed not simply in all things but when they sate in the chaire of Moses that is when they taught the truth out of the law of Moses It is therfore a fallacie from that which is spoken but in part and some respect to that which is absolutely spoken 2 They were to be hearkened vnto when they taught Moses but in the meane while Christ said also Take heede of the leaven of the Pharisies Now Christ by the leaven of the Pharisies meant their false doctrine as S. Mathew expressely witnesseth cap. 16 v. 12. that is Christ did reiect the Pharisies false interpretatioÌ„ of the Scripture So then wee must distinguish betweene the scripture it self which the Papists handle their false interpretatioÌ„ or humane traditioÌ„s wherwith they defile it 3 God would have theÌ„ punished with death which would not obey the judgment of the high Priest Devter 17 12. Ans 1 Moses speaketh not of matters of faith but of civill government betweene bloud and bloud betweene plea and plea betweene plague and plague as the wordes of Moses are verse 8 in which matters for publike peace sake it was necessary there should be some order appointed for ending of controversies For the high Priest at that time was the highest Iudge from whom no man might appeale 2 It was not in the high Priests choise to judge as hee pleased but hee was tyed to the lawe of the Lord according to which he gave sentence In like sort is the Popetyed to it too 4 The Priests lippes shall preserue knowledge they shall seeke the law at his mouth for he is the messenger of the Lord of Hosts c
the Papall councels In that there were witnesses without all exception but in these men do meet among whom there bee many vnlearned wicked in parte Epicures and such as have sworne homage to the Pope In the councell at Ierusalem the decrees were made out of the Scripture but the papall councells make constitutions very often against the Scripture This is therefore a loose reason 2 In the councell of the Priests and Scribes Caiaphas by the holy Ghost prophecied that it was better that one should dye for the people than that all the people should perish Ioh 11 50 Therefore Councells speake by the holy Ghost and are therefore to be obeyed Ans 1. Although Caiaphas vnnwittingly spake the truth that that it was better that one man should dye then all the people perish yet the mind and meaning of Caiaphas was nothing so But the definitiue sentence of the High Priest and the Councell was that Christ was an hereticke a blasphemer a seducer of the People a wicked man and such as well deserued the shamefull death of the crosse This was the decree of that councell which if the Papists will subscribe vnto they shall bee reckoned impious and blasphemous Men. And by alleaging this devilish councell they shall gaine small credite to their owne 2 This argument proceeds from a particular to an vniversall Caiaphas minding an other thing and vnwittingly spoke a fewe true wordes therefore all the decrees of their councells are simply in all thinges from the Holy Ghost and cannot in any case erre 3. They might with as much truth and better reason conclude that Southsaiers when they are sought vnto to speake for a rewarde cannot speake an vntruth Because that Balaam being consulted with of Balak to speake against Israel did on the contrarie side by inspiration blesse them and which is more then is sayde of Caiaphas coulde not doe otherwise and whereas the prophesie of Caiaphas was onely in his wordes which hee spoke in an other sense Balaams prophesie was both in his words and his meaning Numb 22 and 23. 3 Thou shalt not remove the ancient bounds which thy Fathers have made Pro. 22 28. Therfore the decrees of Councells are to be kept Ans 1 Wee have to deale with Counsells whose decrees are contrarie to the holy Scriptures the ancientest boundes of all Therefore are the Councells themselues tyed to this precept 2 This is an argument drawen from the not changing of antient things well ordained vnto new things constituted the last day that against right too 3 And this doe wee at this day against the Papists we shew men the antient limites and bounds which the Prophets Christ and the Apostles have set but the Bishops of Râ—me haue overturned and cover those most antiâ—t bounds with their new-fangled opinions humane Traditions 4 Which hee commanded our Fathers to teach their children that the posteritie might know it Psal 78 6 7. Therefore councells declare to vs those things which they were enioyned by this coÌ„mandemeÌ„t to teach their childreÌ„ Answ 1. There is more in the Conclusion Simil. A Prince bidâ— his servantâ— be faithfull therefore none of the can bee vnfaithfull than in the premises for it followeth not God commaunded our Elders to deriue the truth to us therefore of certainty they did so 2 It is a changing of the manner of speach for the Antecedent containeth a commandement the consequent a storie or narration of the fulfilling of that commandement 5 Where two or three are gathered in my name there am I in the middest of them Math 18 20. Therefore the decrees of Counsels are sacred c. for they are gathered together in the name of Christ Answ 1. Heere be foure termes To be gathered together in the name of Christ is to be gathered according to his word and wil but this they apply to the companies of them which decree contrary to the word and will of Christ 2 It is a begging of the thing in question for this is the speciall doubt whether Counsels decreeing contrarie to the Scripture may be said to bee gathered in the name of Christ for it is not enough in counsels to bragg and make shew of the name of A protestation contrarie to theiâ— deeds Christ and to recite the wordes of the Apostolick Counsell It seemed good to the holy Ghost and to vs c. 6 In the assemblies of Counsels inuocation is made to the holy Ghost that hee would bee their guide Answ 1. That is done with Idolatrous rites It is as if a man should heare one aske aduice of a wise man but would not obay his aduice of the Papisticall Masse therefore their praiâ—rs are not heard nay such as their seruice is that is Idolatrous such is the Spirit which ruleth them 2 They obay not the Spirit whom they pray vnto neither doe they rest content with his pleasure comprised in the Scripture 7 But who would say that so many so great and so worthie men could all erre at once Answ 1. The Scripture saith that euerie man is a lyar therefore it is not a thing impossible Psa 116 11 that so many and so worthie men should erre 2 Wee cited before examples of famous Counsels which haue erred 3 There is no respect of persons with God 4 I giue thee thanks O Father saith Christ because thou hast hid these thinges from the wise Matthew 11 25 5 Not many wise men after the flesh not many mighty not many noble are called but God hath chosen the foolish thinges of the world to confound the wise 1 Corinthians 1 26 27 6 Onely one Prophet Micha spake the truth when in the meane time foure hundred false Prophets consented together in a lye 1 King 22. 8 All herisies at what time soeuer they haue sprunge vppe haue still beene ouerthrowne by Counsels therefore this honour is as yet due to Counsells Answere This is a fallacie putting that for the cause â—hich is not the cause for Councells not as For example so the Samâ—ritans speak vnto the woman wee do not now beleeue because of thy words but because we haue heard him our selues Ioh. 4. 42. Counsells barely considered vnder the name of Councells but as prouing the truth by the word of God haue troden vnder foote and ouerthrown herisies Had the Papists such couÌ„cells we would of our owne accord willingly giue them the honour due vnto them for their â—rue and right alleaging and expounding of Scriptures CHAP. 7. Of the Church FVrther yet the Papists seeke an other shift for the defending of their humane Traditions and Doctrines whiles boasting of the name of the Church with open mouth they tell vs that the true Church was of olde time at Rome and that the Bishop of Rome with his band are at this day that Church and that the Church cannot erre and that therfore all whatsoeuer is deliuered vnto vs from the Church of Rome is to be helde for most certaine and
indefinite proposition which in this place is but a particular into an vniuersall thus feede my sheepe therefore feede all my sheepe 2 Heere are foure termes The word feede in the Antecedent is to do the office of a Minister of the Gospell but in the Consequent it is to be a Prince and to exercise dominion 4 Christ payed tribute for Peter and not for the rest of the Apostles Matth 17 27 Therefore Peter was Prince of the Apostles An. This is a Doctor like exposition to pay tribute that is to make a Prince for Peter that is Peter These dotages of the Papists declare how absurdly for want of proofes they scrape together any thing to bleare the eies of the vnlearned 5 Peter after the manner of a Prince lifted vp his voice on the day of Pentecost when the rest of the Apostles held their peace as it were for reuerence sake to him Act 2 14 4 8. Ans This is a fallacie putting that for a cause which is not a cause because the Apostles might giue Peter this honour either for his age or eloquence and not because they acknowledged him for their Prince and head 6 In the Counsell of the Apostles Peter first of all gaue his voice Act 15 7 Therefore he was Prince of the Apostles Ans 1 The voice of Peter is described but whether he first of all gaue his voice or some other before him that is not written therefore there is more in the Consequent than in the Antecedent on this wise Peters voice is the first that is mentioned therefore no man gaue any voice before him 2 It seemeth rather that others spake before him by these words next going before When there had been great disputation c. Whence it appeareth that some had spoken their mindes before Peter 3 out of this place it might rather be proued that Iames was the Prince of the Apostles for that he their voices being gathered gaue the definitiue sentence the argument therefore of the Papists is most fond 7. The Fathers and Writers of the Church haue acknowledged Peter to bee the Prince of the Apostles Answer If any of them did so they had it frō vncertaine reports contrarie to the meaning of the Scripture Neither ought the error of a few to be any preiudice to the truth 2 They gaine-saide the Primacie of Peter Augustine on the 16 of Matthew Cyprian in his Epistles Gregorie the great others Now in the second place let vs treate also of Dominion of faith with the Papists is that power or prerogatiue whereby the Pope may as please him determine and iudge of articles of Religion the power of knowledge or dominion of faith Wee denie that such a power was granted by Christ to Peter or any other man and that for these reasons Because it is Christ alone of whom the heauenly Father hath said heare him Math. 3 17 and 17 5 and there is one Maister or Doctor Math 23 8. Though that we or an Angell from heauen should preach vnto you otherwise than that which we haue preached vnto you let him be accursed Galat 1 8. Christ and Paul had not done well in sending their hearers vnto the Scriptures wheras rather they should haue sent them vnto Peter if wee must stand to the Popes iudgement Peter himselfe sends vs to the word of the Prophets and teacheth vs to attend to the word and not to himselfe as for any personall priuiledge 2 Pet 1 19. Peter in his Sermons and Epistles neuer taught any thing by such an absolute peculiar power or authoritie but confirmed all his assertions out of the holy Scripture as is to be seene Act. 2 4 10 and 15 Chap. By this meanes there had beene no neede of the Counsell of the Apostles but Peter alone should haue beene asked what hee would infallibly define Paul would not seeme to haue receiued anie thing from Peter as concerning his doctrine wherein hee had offended if the dominion of faith had beene committed to Peter Galat. 1 11 12 c. It may not be thought that such a dominion on of faith was committed vnto Peter because that hee was blame worthie and went not the right way to the truth of the Gospel Galat. 2 11 14. Contrariwise our Aduersaries reason thus 1 I will giue vnto thee the keyes of the Kingdome of heauen Matth 16 19 Therefore Peter had the key of knowledge and the dominion of faith Ans 1. There is more in the Consequent than in the Antecedent for it followeth not the keyes were given to Peter therefore power was given him to appoint and constitute what he pleased in doctrine faith 2 There are foure termes In the Antecedent the keyes are taken for that part of the ministery which consisteth in binding and loosing of sinnes in the consequent it is mistaken for authority to determine and constitute any thing what seemeth good in doctrine 3 The keyes did not only belong to Peter but to the rest of the Apostles also vnto whom Christ promised the keyes vnder the person of Peter who had answered for all And Christ gave authority alike to all to retaine to remit sinnes Mar 18 18 Ioh 20 23 which Panormitan also doth aduertise vs of 2 Christ prayed for Peter that his faith should not fayle Luke 22 32 therefore Peter received the Dominion of fayth Ans 1 Christ speaketh of Peters denying of him from which by his prayer for him he reclaimed Peter and did not suffer him to perish with Iudas To argue then from a particuler case to all the actions of Peter is very absurde 2 If to pray for a mans perseverance be all one as to give him the dominion of faith then because Christ prayed for the perseverance of all those that should heare and believe in him through the preaching of the Apostles Ioh 17 20 it would follow that he had committed vnto all them the dominion of faith which is absurde There are therefore in this argument foure termes 3 Christ sayd to Peter when thou art conuerted strengthen thy brethren Luke 22 32. Therfore the dominion of faith was given to Peter Ans 1 Christ speakes of such a strengthening whereby he that hath beene tempted knowes how to strengthen them which are tempted in the like manner But concerning the dominion of Faith there is not one title Againe therfore heer are foure terms 2 Every man that strengtheneth his brother should by the same reason as the Papists heer argue have the dominion of faith assured vnto him 3 And so also Peter could not have beene blame-worthy if hee had Gal 2 11 14. obtained the dominion of faith but hee ought rather to have chid Paul that reproved him 4 Vpon this Rocke I will builde my Church and the gates of hell shall not overcome it Math 16 18. Therefore it must needes bee that Peter received an infallible dominion of Faith Ans 1 If Peter had beene that most firme and sure Rock then
Peter neither can they certainly say who was his successor the different opinions are these 1. Platina Sabellicus Epiphanius reckon thus 1. Peter 2 Linus 3. Cletus 4. Clemens 5. Anacletus 2 Eusebius Irenaeus Hierom reckon them thus 1. Peter 2. Linus 3. Anacletus 4. Clemens 5. Of Cletus they say nothing 3. Damasus the Tomes of the Counsels Mariaâ—â— Scotus Caranza doe reckon them thus 1 Petrus 2 Clemens 3 Anacletus 4. Onuphrius reckoneth them thus 1 Peter 2 Linus 3 Clemens 4 Cletus 5 Anacletus Caranza saith In a matter so intricate I leave the defining therof to the iudgment of the Reader Summa concil pa 13. Amongst the Ecclesiasticall Writers some doe reckon fewer some reckon moe Bishops so that they agree not in the nuÌ„ber Because the Church of Rome in respect of this succession hath not anie where in â—he holy Scriptures any prerogative given her aboue other Churches They are not the sonnes of the Saints as â—he Canon lawe confesseth which possesse â—he roomes of the Saints but they that pracâ—se their works nether doth the See make a Biâ—â—op but a Bishop maketh the See as also the â—ace doth not sanctifie the man but the man both sanctifie the place Distinct 40 cap â—ulti Sacerdotes c. But the Pope is not the â—ccessor of Peter neither in doctrine nor in â—anners 1. Not in doctrine Peter taught thus There is giuen no other name vnder heaven whereby we must be saued but by Iesus Act. 4 12. The pope hath other names that men may bee saued by the merites of Saints the virgin Mary Iohn Baptist the holy Martyrs as also Francis Dominicus c. Peter To him that is Christ gaue all the Prophets witnesse that through his name all that belieue in him shall receiue remission of sinnes Act 10 43. The pope Sinnes committed after Baptisme are not remitted but are recompenced for by vs not because we belieue in Christ but in our works Peter acknowledgeth one onely foundation of the Church euen Christ the corner stone Math 16 16 1 pet 2 6 The pope placeth himselfe for the foundation and corner stone of the Church Peter Submit your selues to all manner of ordinance for the Lords sake whether vnto the King or vnto Gouernours c 1 peâ— 2 13. The pope would haue all Kings and Emperours subiect to him Peter ascribes vnto Christ that hee is the Shepheard and Bishop of our soules 1 Pet. 2 25 and the chiefe or head Shepheard 1 Pet. 5 4. The pope takes it to himselfe that hee is the pastor of all soules and the head Shepheard Peter Baptisme is the stipulation or taking to witnesse of a good conscience 1 pet 3. 21. The pope The state of Monkerie is equall See Aquiâ— as lib 4 〈◊〉 distinct 4 art 3. to Baptisme and Christians that haue fallen into any sinne after Baptisme cannot comfort their consciences by their Baptisme although they repent Peter If any man speake let him talke as the words of God 1 pet 4 11. The pope If any man speake let him speake our Traditions of men Peter Feede the flock of God not for filthie Venalia nobis Templa Sacerdotes Altaria Sacra Coronae Ignis Thura preces Coelum est venale deusque Mautuâ—n lukers sake 1 pet 5 2 The Pope Wares of all sorts are heere to be sold Buy what yee will for money downe told Churches Priests Altars Offerings Crowns We passe for quicke sale all Cities and townes Fire frankincense Dirges pardons froÌ„ paine Hell HeaveÌ„ God the Devil we give al for gain 1 Peter not as though ye were Lords over Gods heritage 1 Pet 5 3. The Pope will bee Lord over Angells Church and Christian Monarchies c. Peter Resist the devill steedfast in the faith 1 Pet 5 9. The Pope Resist him by consecrated candles holy water the signe of the Crosse moonkish weede c. Peter Make your calling and election sure by holines and good workes 2 Pet 1 10. The Pope seeke for your iustification before God by good workes Peter we followed not deceivable fables when wee opened vnto you the power and comming of our Lord Iesus Christ 2 Pet 1 16. The Pope hath canonized the fabulous Bookes of Dominick and the conformitie of Saint Francis as also the lying Legends are yet set abroade to sale And more over hee hath gone about to confirme the most of his trash by fables Peter we haue a most sure word of the Prophets to which ye do well that yee take heede 2 Pet 1 19. The Pope dooth no otherwaies runne away from the scripture than the devill is supposed to doe from the signe of the crosse But and if we would further compare the Popes decrees with the doctrines and writings of the other Apostles we should finde that they differ as farre as Heauen and hell 2 Peter and the Bishops of Rome differ very much in manners Peter inueigheth against them which live luxuriously delighting themselues in their deceiuings c. having eyes full of adulterie 2 Pet 2 13 14. The Pope feedes a great number of such massing seruants of his owne Peter lived in humilitie The Pope in more than Ruffian-like ryot Peter carried himselfe as a Minister or seruant to others The Pope behaueth himselfe as Lord of Lords Peter caried about a wife with him i. Corinthians 9 5. The pope abhorreth mariage in priests Peter condemned Simonie Act. 8 20 c The pope for money selleth Indulgences Bishoprickes Palles Bulls and all thinges are ordered for the scraping of money and the wiping of others of their substance See the popes a A book openly set to sale wherein is the price of absolutioÌ„ for most hai nous sinnes whereof Espencaeus coÌ„plaineth most pittifuâ—ly in Tit. cap. 1. Digress 2. taxa paenitentiaria 6 Peter was godly holy honest chaste c. The pope hath in the Genealogie of his succession Thieues Magicians Southsaiers Witches Adulterers WhoremoÌ„gers Warriours and what not Contrariwise our Aduersaries doe reason The Fathers called the Bishops of Rome the successors of Peter Answer 1. They were better Bishops then than they bee nowe a-daies The ancient Bishoppes of Rome the most of them were holy Martyrs the late ones voluptuous persons 2 And all godly and good Bishops are the successors of the Apostles in office not only the Bishop of Rome if he were good and godly 3 The Fathers also called Rome the purple colored whore Hieron to Marcella and Augustin â—â— Ciuit. Dei lib 8 cap 22 and other An other or the first Question coincident with the former Who the Pope is I Answere He is Antichrist Because all things which are foretolde of Antichrist in the holy Scriptures are fulfilled in the Pope Hee is called in the Scriptures an Aduersarie that opposeth himselfe against Christ Now the Pope opposeth himselfe against Christ manie wayes as for examples sake 1. Christ commends the holy Scripture Ioh 5 39. The Pope calleth it the matter of
and therefore the place is fitly and properly translated There are diuersities of gifts 2 Wee haue receiued grace for grace Iohn 1 16. 1 This is a Doctour like exposition made of their meere Doctour like authoritie without reason wee haue receiued grace that is the grace of iustification for grace that is for the first preuenting grace but the meaning of Saint Iohn is because the sonne of God was in highest grace and fauour with his heauenly father therfore the father doth embrace vs also with his grace and louing kindnesse for his sonnes sake in whom we beleeue 2. That grace in this place is opposed vnto merites the wordes next following doe declare for the law was giuen by Moses but grace and truth came by Iesus Christ Heere Christ and Moses are opposed betwixt themselues as it were in the proper differences of their offices that is of wrath by the lawe and of grace by the Gospell 3 Grace is the gift of God Ephes 2. 8. therefore it is an infused and inherent habite Answere 1 It is a fallacie of composition and diuision arising from the construction of the words for the word gift is not simplie and alone construed with the word grace but with saluation by grace which if it might should haue been expressed in one word Brieffely plainely the Apostle saith not Grace is the gift of God but that ye are saued by grace that is the gift of God 2 and for the same cause the gift in this place is not a habite for gift is opposed there to workes and merites as being a thing that is bestowed of meere fauour 4 It is a good thing that the hart be established with grace Heb 13 9 Answere 1 It is a begging of the question because this is controuersed whether Grace doe in these wordes signifie an infused habite 2. In that very place the Apostle opposeth Grace to the vaine confidence of workes against them who put confidence in meates drinkes c. Therefore by the nature of contraries it appeareth that the worde grace is heere taken for the free fauour and mercy of God so the argument hangeth not together for in the Antecedent Grace is taken for the fauour of God in the consequent for an infused habite CHAP. 10. Of Iustification SEeing our aduersaries doe diuerse wayes wrâ—p and inuolue this disputation let vs devide it into certaine and distinct members and questions Question 1. And first of all whereas the word Iustification wrested to a wrong signification by our aduersaries as if to iustifie were of an vniust man to make one iust habitually or by a habite infused and seeing they hisse at imputed righteousnesse let vs consider the true signification of the word which is no other but to be absolved from the guilte of sinne that it bee not imputed but pardoned which appeareth to bee so by the reasons following Because the word Iustification is a borowed word from the court and place of iudgement which in his proper and naturall signification is vsed in the Scripture for to absolue acquitte from fault and guilte as 1 Wo to them that iustifie the wicked for a reward Isai 5 23. 2 The righteous shal bee iustified and the wicked condemned Deuter 25 1 3 Euerie man that hath a matter might come vnto me that I might iustifie him as the originall hath and is translated agreeable to the sense more plainely that I might doe him iustice 2 Sam. 15 4. 4 He that iustifieth the wicked and hee that condemneth the iust euen they both are abomination Note that the whole acte of Iustification is very liuely described in the scripture as a kind of iudiciall acte processe the person guilty is called to the barre is accused witnesses are brought he is condemned or acquitted c. to the Lord Prov. 17 15. So doth the same word keepe the same signification borowed from the court and iudicial proceedings in the Article of Iustification in the Scripture 1 Who shall laie any thing to the charge of Gods chosen It is God that Iustifieth who shall condemne c. Rom 8 33 34 heere yee see words and phrases borowed froÌ„ the court and Iudiciall proceedings to accuse to condemne to iustifie c. The equivalent termes of iustification or other words vsed to signifie iustification doth proue the same 1 Reconciliation is taken for Iustification Rom 5 9 10 2 Corinth 5 19 2 Remission of sinnes is taken for Iustification 1 Blessed is he whose wickednesse is forgiuen Psal 32 1 2 Iesus shall saue his people from their sinnes Matt. 1 21. 3 To giue knowledge of saluation vnto his people by the remission of their sinnes Luke 1 77 3 To cover sinnes is vsed for Iustification Blessed is he whose sinne is couered Psal 32 1 4 The holy Scripture doth describe Iustification by the words imputation reckoning accounting c as 1 God was in Christ and reconciled the world vnto himselfe not imputing their sinnes vnto them 2 Corinth 5 19. 2 Blessed is the man vnto whome the Lord imputeth not iniquitie Psal 32 2 3 As Dauid declareth the blessednesse of the man vnto whome God imputeth righteousnes without workes Rom 4 6 4 Abraham belieued God and it was counted to him for righteousnes Rom 4 â— 5 To him that worketh not but beleeueth in him that iustifieth the vngodly his faith is counted for righteousnesse Rom 4 5. 6 It is not written for him onely that it was imputed to him for righteousnes but also for vs to whom it shall be imputed for righteousnes which beleeue in him c. Rom. 4. 23 24 Contrariwise our aduersaries do reason 1 To iustifie by force of grammaticall composition of the word is all one as to make a man iust of one who before was not iust therefore to iustifie is to make iust Ans 1 Heere be foure termes in the Antecedent the signification of the word iustificatioÌ„ is taken grammatically in the consequent it is taken according to that signification which belongeth properly to Diuinitie 2. The true signification of the word is to be sought for in the proper science wherin the question is contained 2 By his knowledge shall my righteous seruant iustifie many Esai 53. 11 therefore hee doth iustifie them by an infused habite Ans It is a fallacie called ignoratio elenchi for the necessarie determination or limitation is omitted which followeth in the next words for he shal beare their iniquities which wordes declare that iustification is to bee vnderstoode heere by imputation for they are iustified by his bearing their sinnes as if themselues had borne and wyped away their owne sinnes 3 Holinesse shall preserue and iustifie the heart that is shall cause that the heart bee made iuste Ecclesiastic 1. 17. Answere 1 The booke is not Canonicall and therefore in a point of such moment his authoritie is not sufficient â— in the Greeke text the word iustification is not found 3 Neither if to iustifie in this place
is faith is not that righteousnes in it selfe whereby wee are iust before God but it is that instrument whereby we lay hold vpon Christ his righteousnes which being by faith made and accounted with God as ours we stand iust by the righteousnes of Christ before God and this we proue 1 Because the Scripture speaketh still of faith relatiuely as it respecteth and is referred vnto Christ as He that beleeueth in Christ in him on him the faith of Christ c. Ioh. 3 15 and 6 40 47 Act 10 43 and 15 11 Galat 2 16 Rom 3 22 26 and 4 24 and infinite moe such like Contrariwise our aduersaries doe reason 1 Faith is the gift of God but the gifts of God are qualities therefore faith is a qualitie Ans 1 We denie not but it is a qualitie but it doth not iustifie as a qualitie but because it layeth hold on Christ 2. Faith is called in the Scripture a gift not that it should be defined as a quality but that we might vnderstand that it is freely giuen vs. 2 Faith is oftentimes in the Scripture vsed absolutely without determination or reference to any other thing as Hee that shall beleeue and bee baptized c. Mark 16 16 if yee beleeue not surely yee shall not be established Isai 7. 9. Ans The obiect of faith is alwaies understood by the figure Synecdoche for without it faith doth neither beleeue neither is it faith 2 The Apostles taught their hearers to beleeue not absolutely without reference to Christ but to beleeue in Christ in whom they were bid to beleeue and to be baptized in his name Matt 28 19 3 Faith is a worke Iohn 6 29 therfore it iustifies as a worke Ans 1 The question is not whether faith may be called a worke but how it is considered in the verie act of IustificatioÌ„ This how it is to be considered Christ declareth in the words next following This is the worke of God that yee beleeue in him See there is the relatiue or respectiue acception whome he hath sent 2 Besides in this argument there is more in the conclusion than in the premisses for the collection they make is such like as this faith is in some sorte a worke therefore it iustifieth as a worke Our aduersaries doe acknowledge nothing in faith but a bare and general knowledge and assent Condition 2 making it only an historicall faith but wee as wee presuppose knowledge and assent so wee affirme that in faith there is required a trust or confidence whereby we relie and depende vpon God that for these reasons Because truste or confidence is the essential and proper difference whereby the faith of Christians is distinguished from the faith of Diuels for that Diuells though they certainely beleeâ—e that Christ died for the sinnes of mankinde yet they doe not put their trust in him seeing that benefite doth not belong vnto them Because the Scripture when it speaketh of faith doth expressely vse such wordes as be token trust or confidence 1 By Christ wee haue bouldnesse and entrance with confidence by faith in him Eph 3 12 2 Let vs goe bouldly vnto the throne of grace Heb 4 16 3 Seeing that by the bloud of Iesus we may be bould to enter into the holy place let vs drawe neare with a true heart in assurance of faith Hebrewes 10 19 22 4 Herein is loue perfect in vs that wee should haue boldnes in the day of iudgement c. There is no feare in loue but perfect loue casteth out feare for feare hath painefulnes and he that feareth is not perfect in loue 1 Ioh 4 17 18. In this saying the excluding of feare presupposeth a trust in Christ 5. Sonne be of good comfort thy sinnes are forgiuen thee Matth 9 2. 6 Daughter be of good comfort thy faith hath made thee whole Matt 9 22. 7 Bee of good comfort I haue ouercome the world Ioh. 16 33. Contrariwise our aduersaries reason Iames acknowledgeth no other faith but that which consisteth of a meere knowledge and assent Iam. 2. Ans 1 This holdes not Iames founde no other faith in the Diuels therefore neither did hee finde any other in true Christians 2. Neither doth this follow Iames intreateth only of one kind of faith to wit of historicall faith therefore the Scripture teacheth none other kind of faith Our Aduersaries affirme that faith may bee in Condition 3 impenitent and wicked men in Epicures and adulterers c. but we denie that faith can be in such men for these reasons Being iustified by faith we haue peace towards God Rom. 5 1 but euery one that committeth sinne is of the Deuill 1 Ioh 3 8 therefore hee hath not peace towards God consequently hee wanteth true faith All men haue not faith 2. Thessal 3 2 The hearts of the beleeuers are purified by faith Acts 15 9 therefore true iustifying faith is not in a wicked and impure heart which is polluted and laden with sinne Paule speakes of the wicked ones after an other manner than our Aduersaries doe 1 That as concerning faith they haue made shipwracke 1 Timoth 1 19 of those which haue bid all conscience farewell 2 That they haue erred from the faith 1 Tim 6 10 of couetous men 3 That they haue denied the faith 1 Tim 5 8 of such as are without naturall affection Contrariwise our aduersaries do reason thus 1 Wicked men haue wrought miracles in the name of Christ by faith Matt. 7. 22 23 therefore there is faith in the wicked ones Ans They haue the faith of miracles but not iustifying faith 2 Satan himselfe hath faith Iames 2 19. Ans Satan hath an historicall faith but our question is of a iustifying faith therefore seeing one kinde of faith is meant in the Antecedent and an other in the consequent there bee foure termes 3 Simon Magus beleeued whose heart notwithstanding was not right Act 8 13. 21 Answere He was conuicted in conscience that the miracles of the Apostles were not magicall but deuine as the forcerers of Egypt acknowledged the finger of God Exod 8 19 Simon therefore beleeued as Saint Luke saith but it was an historicall faith onely and not a true iustifying faith Our Aduersaries dreame that true faith may be without workes but wee maintaine that a true iustifying Condition 4 faith cannot want his fruites and that for these reasons A good tree cannot bring forth euill fruite Matt 7 18. Faith worketh by loue Galat. 5 6 Faith without workes is dead Iames 2 26 Because Christ shall proue our faith by our workes as by the in fallible effects therof Matt. 25. Contrariwise our aduersaries doe reason 1 Shew me thy faith without workes Iam. 2. 18 therefore faith may be without workes Ans That translation is faultie for according to the Greek it should be translated shew me thy faith by or out of thy works 2 vnlesse S. Iames thought true faith to be effectual working by loue he would not
this Blessed is the man to whome the Lord imputeth not iniquitie and in whose spirit there is noe guile therefore if sinnes be not imputed yet they are in the man though they be not imputed vn to him 10 The fathers denie that concupiscence is a sinne Ans They denie it to be sinne according to the ciuill definition where the will consenting and the act performed and consummated is vnderstood not according to that definition which is taken out of Diuinitie CHAP. 14 Of the Number of the Sacraments VVe denie not but that the ancient writers did vse the word Sacrament some times but in a very general signification to note other things by than Baptisme the Lords supper partly for reuerence partly for some misterie in the thing But the question is of the more stricte and most proper signification of the word Sacramēt in such sort as it agreeth to the Lords Supper and to Baptisme Hereuppon the question is whether the other fiue papistical Sacraments to wit Confirmation Penance Extreme Vnction Order and Matrimony be to be receiued vnto the number of Sacraments in such sort as that they may haue the like autoritie the same definition of a Sacament with the other vndoubted Sacraments and most properly so called Our Aduersaries contend for the number of their seauen Sacraments but we admit not of that number for these reasons Because that number of 7 Sacraments is no where mentioned in holy Scripture Neither can there be any of the ancient fathers shewed who did precisely reckē 7 Sacraments and neither moe nor fewer Wheras it is the power of God to ordain Sacraments none of the other fiue Sacraments haue the words of Sacramentall institution contained in the Scripture Our Aduersaries themselues cannot although their schoolemen haue toyled in it many waies but al in vaine they cānot I say giue a general definition of a Sacrament which is not larger thē the thing defined that is so that it doth not admitte within the definition other things besides those 7. Sacraments or els which is not straiter than the thing defined whiles they endeuour to exclude other things which besides their 7. Sacraments doe arise out of their larger definition that is which is so framed that there be not some of the 5 counterfeit Sacraments excluded by that definition Heere our Aduersaries doe sticke in doubtfull plight whiles they make the definition of a Sacrament either too large or too straite Seeing those two vndoubted Sacraments the Lords Supper and Baptisme doe admitte the same definition and may be contained vnder one generall definition so that whatsoeuer in that generall definition agreeth to the one the same agreeth to the other also why should the other 5 controversed Sacraments if they be truely and properly Sacraments why shold they want this proprietie of a common definition and why should they not be pertakers of the same definition Contrariwise our aduersaries doe reason 1 As there are 7 spirituall diseases so there must bee 7 remedies and Sacraments And as there be 7 cardinall vertues so there must be 7 Sacraments which conferre the same Answere 1. These diseases and these vertues what euer they be were in the time of the old Testament also If therefore 7 Sacraments be necessarily concluded from the 7 diseases and 7 vertues it will likewise follow that in the olde testament there were neither moe nor fewer than seauen but because the cōsequent is false therfore the Antecedent is false also 2 Besides those diseases and vertues may either bee restrained to fewer or extended to moe these are therfore ropes of sande 2 The number of seauen in the Scripture is an holy number and is oftentimes vsed in mysteries the 7 Seales Reuel 5. 1. the 7 trumpets Revel 8. 6 the 7 starres Candlestickes Reuel 1 13 16 the 7 loues Matt 15 34. the 7 eyes vpon one stone Zachar 3. 9. and such like both in the old new testament concerning the number of seauen therefore there are 7 Sacraments Answere 1. If our Aduersaries would make a perfect syllogisme thus it should be framed wheresoeuer in Scripture there is the number of seauen there the 7 Sacraments are prefigured c. But this proposition as is cannot be proued so it is ridiculous and therefore our Aduersaries keepe it close 2 Yea not 7. but 70 Sacraments might by the same reason bee proued seeing that the number of Seuentie is often vsed in Scripture The captiuitie of Babilon endured 70 yeeres there were 70 palme trees in Elim Exod 15. 27 the patriarches descended into Egypt with 70 soules there were 70 Elders of the people there are 70 yeares of our life Psal 90 10. Christ chose 70 disciples we must pardon our brother that sinneth against vs seuentie times seauen times in one day c It is therefore a fallacie taking that for a cause which is no cause whereof followeth no conclusion 3 There are 7 principall orders in the Church The first is of them that enter into it whereto answeareth Baptisme The second is of them that warre and plaie the souldiers and to this confirmation answereth The third of them that resume strength and refreshing in the Euchariste the fourth of them that arise after a fall by pennance The fift is of them that depart out with extreame vnction The sixt of them that minister and doe seruice in the Church and heereto belong holy orders The seuenth is of them that bring in newe souldiers by matrimonie therefore needes it must be that there be 7. Sacraments and neither more nor lesse Answere These distinctions of orders diseases vertues are speculations of idle braines which cannot beget vs any Sacraments for it should be proued by the holy Scriptures that all these things haue the force and propertie of Sacraments 2. Neither may the counterfeit Dionisius in his Ecclesiasticall Hierarchie rest content with this number of 7 for such reason as these be 4 The fathers haue giuen the name of Sacramēt vnto other things beside Baptisme and the Supper Ans 1. Yet did they neuer precisely define the number of 7 Sacraments to be necessarie 2. Neither did they name other thinges Sacraments in the like sorte as they did Baptisme and the Lords Supper but either they called them so for renerence of the things or for some mystery in them A particular Examination of the fiue Papisticall Sacraments Whether that the other 5 Popish Sacraments be to be called properly truly Sacraments seeing that the word Sacrament is not contained in the Scripture we can not better learne than if the true properties of Sacraments be fetched from the definition and nature of the two proper and vndoubted Sacraments baptisme and the Lords supper Wherby afterward the agreeing or disagreeing of the rest of the Popish Sacramēts wil be made manifest For this is a groūd without cōrrouersie so that it neither can nor ought to bee refused of either side Now the properties of a true Sacrament
then to Popish Confirmation 2. Heere bee more termes than three 1 Confirmation 2 Sacrament 3. Laying on of hands 4 Ceremonies different from laying on of hands 5 The bestowing of the gifts of the holy Ghost 6. The bare Popish spectacle of Chrisme or oile 6. Christ confirmed the little children Mar. 10 16 therefore Confirmation is a Sacrament Ans 1. The Antecedent speaketh of blessing and praier such a Confirmation as is vsed at this day in our Churches neither is there any mention of oile but the Consequent speaketh of a quite other thing altogether different from the action of Christ there arise therefore foure termes 2 Penance Repentance though it bee necessarie for all men yet it is not to bee counted among the Sacraments for these reasons Repentance was commaunded and was necessarie in the olde Testament also but our Sacraments ought to be the institutions of the new Testament Seeing in the olde Testament where also was repentance it was not reckoned for a Sacrament why should it now be It wanteth a visible element ordained by God for Repentance Those ceremonies which the Papists vse in their penance laying on of handes and such like haue no promise that God will be effectuall in vs by those rites The Popish penance is polluted with manie humane traditions and corruptions as shall bee declared in his proper place Chap. 23 for which cause it deserveth not the name of a Sacrament Contrariwise our Aduersaries doe dispute 1 penance is commaunded Mar 1 15 Math 3 2. therefore it is a Sacrament Answer 1. It is a fallacie for that there is not a sufficient reckoning vp of the causes and parts requisite to a Sacrament for not some one or other partiall cause alone is a sufficient cause of a Sacrament 2. By the same reason Charitie should be a Sacrament too for that also hath the commandement of Christ Ioh. 13 34. and in other places 2 Penance hath an outward element also as the laying on of hands therefore it is a Sacrament Ans 1. If the ceremonies of actions performed by the hand bee elements in the Sacraments then in Baptisme there will bee two elements to wit water and the laying to of the hands or the washing of the childe by the hand of the Minister which is absurd therefore the Antecedent is false 2. The rite or ceremony of laying on of hands is not commaunded in Scripture 3. Neither can it be shewed that the grace of God is tyed to the ceremonie Neither doe we reade that Iohn Baptist laied his hands vpon euery one of that innumerable multitude of men whom vppon their repentance hee baptized 3. In penance there is an application of the grace of God to euery one in particular therefore it is a Sacrament Answere It is a fallacie from an vnsufficient cause for remission of sinnes is applied to euerie one in particular by faith and yet it is not therefore a Sacrament And as Papists say the grace of iustification is applied to euery one in particular by good works therefore according to their opinion the good works of the regenerate should bee counted amongst the Sacraments And by this meanes what an infinite number of Sacraments shall we haue 3 Order Wee denie that Popish Orders are to bee accounted a Sacrament if we speake properly of a Sacrament for these reasons Because it hath no outward element Because the rites which are there woont to bee vsed haue neither example of the Apostles nor commandement of Christ and therefore they haue no promise of grace to the receaver Because those things which are alleaged out of Scripture for their degrees of Orders are very ridiculous 1. That Christ was Ostiarius a doore-keeper and so thereby did institute this See Durandus in his book called Rationale Divinoruâ— officioruâ— degree of Orders they triflingly proue because he said I am the doore by mee if any man enter in hee shal be saved Ioh. 10 9. And so their Ostiarij the dore keepers in Poperie shall be that dore by which we must enter into heauen 2. The degree of Lector or Reader they proue because Christ did reade out of the booke of Isai Luk 4 17. 3 They proue the degree of Exorciste because Christ gaue power to his Apostles to cast out Devils Mar. 6. 7 13. 4 The degree of Acolythites they proue because Christ saide Hee that followeth mee walketh not in darknesse Iohn 8. 12. 5. The degree of Subdeacon is proued because Christ when he washed the Apostles feete was girded about with a linnen to well Ioh 13. 4. 6 They proue the degree of Deacon because Christ did distribute the Eucharist or Communion to his Apostles Math 26 26 c. 7 They proue the degree of Priesthood because Christ was a Priest after the order of Melchisedech because hee offered himselfe to his Father in his last supper because there he ordained his Apostles to be Priests Because the rites of the popish ordination a great part of them be taken out of the ould Testament where the Priest was annointed with oile c. Wherfore those belong not to the Sacraments of the newe Testament vnlesse we would bring Christians backe againe to Iudaisme Because the end of the popish ordination is not intended and destinated to the preaching of the Gospell but to the offering of the sacrifice of the masse for the liuing and for the dead Which how great an impietie it is shall bee declared afterward in the chapter of the masse Contrariwise our Aduersaries doe reason thus 1 The institution of the ministery is contained in the Olde and New Testament Therefore it is a Sacrament Ans 1. The maior proposition which our Aduersaries doe not set downe is manifestly false which should be this whatsoeuer is instituted in the Olde and New Testament that is a Sacrament 2 It is a fallacy from an vnsufficient reckoning vp of the causes for it is not some one propertie of a sacrament that can suffice vnlesse there bee a sufficient cause brought that is such a one as consisteth of all the properties which concurre to the making of a Sacrament 3. There is more in the Conclusion than in the premisses For there doth no more follow but that the Ministerie dependeth not vpon humane but deuine authoritie 4 And by the like reason to answere them by an instance the ordination of the Magistrate should be a Sacrament For it hath his institution both in the Olde and New Testament 2 Order hath a visible signe the imposition of hands as appeareth by the ordination vsed of the Apostles Therefore it is a Sacrament Ans 1 We answered a little before that imposition of handes is not the Element or matter of a Sacrament 2 We doo not reade that that ceremonie was euer commanded of Christ 3 b * Though there be no certain coÌ„mandâ—ment for imposition of hâ—â—des yet because we And it is now in the liberty of the church to vâ—e it or not to vse it
three sonnes Shem Ham and Iapheth c. Genes 6 9 10. 3 Abraham the Father of the faithfull was Will any man say that any vnmaried man is more pure than was Abraham beeing maried maried as were also the other Patriarches 4 Dauid a man after Gods owne heart was maried and in state of wedlocke composed Psalms most acceptable to God being indued in a principall measure with the Spirit of God 5 Ezechiel the Prophet was maried Ezech 24 16. 18. 6 The high Priest who offered holy oblations to GOD might by the lawe of God marie a wife neither was he polluted by mariage bed to be made thereby vnfit for the Priests office And Aaron was commanded by God to burne sweetâ— incense euery morning in the tabernacle before the Arke of the Couenant as it is Exodus 30 7. Neither did the vse of mariage bed hinder him in this behalfe For he begate sonnes 7. And so were the rest of the Priests maried also 8. Zacharie and Elizabeth were both iust before God and walked in all the coÌ„maundements and ordinances of the Lord without reproofe and yet they were man and wife had Iohn Baptist to their son Luk 1 6. 2 In the newe Testament also there were Ecclesiasticall persons holy and religious that lived in wedlock 1 Peter had a mother in law and therefore a wife Math. 8 14. 2 Haue wee not power to leade about a wife being a sister as wel as the rest of the Apostles and as the brethren of the Lord and Cephas 1 Corinth 9 5. 3 Philip the Evangelist which was one of the seaven Deacons had foure daughters which did prophecie Acts. 21 8 9. 4. A Bishop must be vnreproveable the husband of one wife c. having children vnder obedience with all honestie 1 Tim. 3 2 4. 5. Let Deacons bee the husbands of one wife and such as can rule their children well and their owne housholds 1 Timo. 3 12. 6. The like appeareth by the examples of Spiridion and of others in the Primitive Church who being holy men and indued with singular gifts of the Spirit were maried and begat children And often times the legitimate sonnes of Bishops succeeded their Fathers in the Bishopricks Paul doth sharply reproue them which disgrace mariage saying In the latter daies some shal depart from the faith and shal giue heede vnto spirits of error and doctrines of Devils which speake lies through hypocrisie haue their consciences burned with an hot iron forbidding to marie 1 Tim. 4 1 2 3. Finally if matrimonie be a Sacrament if it do confer grace and that grace of the Sacrament causeth as Eckius saith the bed to bee vndefiled why are Ecclesiasticall persons polluted thereby Or why is a state otherwise impure and defiled reckoned among the Sacraments as matrimonie in the opinion of the Papists is Contrariwise our Aduersaries do dispute 1 The vse of Mariage bed after the fall is impure and not without lust Therfore priests who ought to bee pure must abstaine from wedlocke Ans 1 If the speech bee of the motions of concupiscence remaining after Originall sinne whereof the Psalmist maketh mention in his conception Psal 51 5 then is it a fallacie of an accident and that which agreeth to the accident to wit Originall sinne is transferred to the vse of Mariage bed which of it selfe is right lawfull and ordained by God And if because of this accident men should abstain from mariage as froÌ„ an impure state then should they abstain from all other states and workes because in all of them there concurreth somewhat of Originall sinne And because purenes becommeth all Christians therefore all should abstaine from mariage 2 But if the vse of mariage bed bee compared to vnlawfull lusts and aequall thereunto it is manifestly repugnant to these sentences of Scripture 1 In the Scripture the vse of mariage bed lust are opposed as contraries but contraries seeing they destroy one another are not the same 2 To auoide fornication let euery man haue his wife 1 Cor 7 2. and what may the remedy of lust impuritie be called lust Sâ— the sâ—n beames which are as it were the remedy of darknes should be called darkenes and impurity 3 Paul saith let the Husband giue vnto the wife due beneuolence he bids them also come together again 1. Cor. 7. 3 5. And what dooth Paul bid them follow after impuritie dooth he egge them forward to sinne 4 The bed betwixt the godly maried couple is vndefiled Heb. 13. 4. 2 If Mariage bed were so pure then would not Paul bid them abstaine in the time of prayer and fasting Answ 1 Hee speaketh not of all sorts of prayers but of solemne prayers 2 Neither doth he bid them therefore abstaine because the vse of mariage bed is impure and would pollute their prayers but that they may giue themselues to prayer and their prayers may be the more feruent c. Euen as in the time of solemne prayers we leaue of the exercise duties of our proper honest calling that wee may attend to prayers and sermons Heere is then committed a fallacy taking that for the cause which is not the cause 3 I was borne in iniquity c. Psalm 51 5. There Dauid confesseth the impuritie of mariage therefore c. Answ 1 Hee speaketh not of the vse of mariage bed in his parents as if that were of it selfe a sinne but he sheweth that lumpe or masse so to speake of which he was created euen then to haue been polluted with sin for the whole substance of man was corrupt with sinne not by reason of the act of mariage bed but by reason of originall sinne which doth accidentally concur there with heere is then committed the fallacy of an accident 2 Whereas our question heere is not concerning originall sinne whether it be in the regenerate and doe concurre also in their good workes but whether there be in matrimony of it selfe anie impurity our Aduersaries change the state of the question play the Sophisters 4 They that are in the flesh cannot please God Rom 8 8. But those which are maried are in the flesh Therefore c. This is pope Syricius his argument Answ 1 What it is to bee in the flesh Paul expoundeth Gal 5 19. Where he reckoneth vp the fruites of the flesh to wit sins and crimes but there is no mention of mariage but of the contraries thereto 2 To liue in the flesh with Paul is to liue in sinne but with our aduersaries to liue in the flesh is to liue in the state of matrimony Therefore there are foure termes in this argument 5 Yea but many doe vse mariage bed intemperately which is not without impurity Answ 1 This is the fallacy of an accident For this is a thing that accidentally agreeth to mariage besides the right vse and that but amongst some onely â— Neither is a thing which is of it selfe laweful to be condemned because some vse it
cannot be broken vpoÌ„ any preâ—ense of not being able to containe Answer 1 It cannot by any one word bee prooved that these widowes made vowes that they would not afterward marrie this place then is wrongfully wrested to Popish vowes of continencie 2 These widowes are not reproved for that they marrie but for that they secretly play the harlots and then seeke for marriage for a pretense to cover their naughtinesse 3 The first faith is not any vowe but the first faith that was given to Christ in Baptisme this is the first faith which they breake while they make the members of Christ the members of an harlot 4 And Paul biddeth these younger widowes marrie in the same place hee should then bid them breake their vowe if these widowes had made any vow which our Aduersaries will not willingly graunt 5 If this place be vnderstood of vowes it followeth against the Papists that they offend in laying vowes vpon theÌ„ which are not yet come to threeâ—core yeeres of age for Paul would haue such chosen as be threescore yeeres old 4. The vowe which Priests make of chastitie is a free vow of their owne accord neither doth any man compell them to it Ans 1. This wee denie for those that will be admitted into holy Orders haue none other entrance but by vowing A man that is admitted if he marrie is removed from his calling and is punished in his body what a kinde of liberty is this It is therefore a loud lie 5 Paul 1 Timo. 4 1 3. doth not speake of the Pope that he holdeth the doctrine of Devils but he meaneth the Tatianâ— and Encrâ—tiâ—ae herâ—tikes Ans 1. Paul saith of them forbidding to marrie but the Pope forbiddeth to marrie therefore c. 2 It followeth not the Tatiani forbad marriage therefore the Pope which forbiddeth it too is not to bee reprooved There is the like iudgement of like things 3 Though the Pope doe not forbid mariage to all persons yet hee forbiddeth it and therefore hee is rightly condemned by Paul with the Tatiani and Encratitae CHAP. 22. Of the Popish Fastes IN this chapter the controuersie is not whether Christians ought to fast For none of our side doth denie that but the question is whether the popish fastes such as are in vse amongst our Aduersaries bee to be approued and necessarie to be obserued But because so many things meete together in the popish fastes which are repugnant to the holy Scripture let vs treate of them all seuerally 1 Error 1 And first of all our Aduersaries do place their fastes not in sobriety or temperance in meate and drink neither in a totall abstaâ—ing from all meate and drinke for a certaine time which was vsed of the Auncients but in abstinence from flesh and white meates c. onely putting a difference betwixt meates And they presse that difference to be obserued with such seuerity that amongst them he is accounted to commit a more hainous crime who should taste flesh vpon the dayes forbidden than hee that should be taken in adulterie or other wickednesse And in some places especially of Italy and Spaine men are in greater danger for tasting flesh vpon the dayes inhibited than for committing capitall crimes Wee disallow and reiecte this obseruation and preposterous choise of meates for these reasons Because there is not any either commandement or example in the whole Scripture of the new Testament of this difference and choise of meates and therefore it is rightly reiected as a meere will-worship 1 Teach them to obserue all things that I haue commanded you Matt 28 20. 2 Of such like obseruations Christ sayth In vaine they worship mee teaching for doctrines mens precepts Matth 15 9. In the Newe Testament those Leuiticall differences of meates are taken away which after a sorte are brought in againe of our aduersaries 1 The things that God hath purified pollute thou not Act 10 15. 2 Whatsoeuer is set before you eate 1 Cor 10 27. 3 That which goeth into the mouth defileth not the man Matth 15 11. 4 Meate maketh vs not acceptable to God for neither if we eate haue we the more neither if we eate not haue we the lesse 1 Cor 8 8. 5 The Kingdome of God is not meate nor drinke but righteousnesse and peace and ioy in the Holy ghost Rom 14 17. 6 It is a good thing that the heart bee stablished with grace and not with meates which haue not profited them that haue beene occupied therein Heb 13 9. By this difference and choise of meates layed vpon the Church as if it were necessarie Christian libertie is impugned 1 In the latter times some shall departe from the faith and shall giue heede vnto spirits of errours and doctrines of deuills which speak lyes through hipocrisie and haue their consciences burned with an hote iron forbidding to marrie and commanding to abstaine froÌ„ meats which God hath created to be receiued with giuing thaÌ„ks of theÌ„ that belieue know the truth for euery creature of God is good and nothing ought to bee refused if it be receiued with thankesgiuing 1. Tim 4 1 2. c. 2 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not let not him that eateth not iudge him that eateth Rom 14 3. 3 Let no man condemne you in meate or in drinke c. Colos 2 16. 4 If ye be deade with Christ from the ordinances of the World why as though yee liued in the World are ye burdened with traditions As touch not taste not handle not Which all perish with the vsing and are after the commandements doctrines of men which things haue indeed a shew of wisdome in voluntary religion and humblenes of minde and in not sparing the body neither haue they it in any estimation to satisfie the flesh Coloss 2 20 c. 5 Vnto the pure are all things pure Titus 1 15. 6 Whatsoeuer is soulde in the shambles eate yee and aske no question for conscience sake 1 Corinth 10 15. Contrariwise our Aduersaries doe reason 1 Obedience is due to the Church but the Chuâ—ch hath ordained such fasts Therefore c. Answer 1 In customes and indifferent ceremonies for orders sake obedience is to be performed to the Church but not in matters of necessity and articles of our beliefe vnlesse it be vpholden by the authority of the scripture whereof we haue spoken in the beginning of this booke Thither we referre the Reader 2 Neither is that rightly ascribed to the Church which is tyrannously obtruded to be obserued of Christians by superstitious men vnder the name of the Church 2 Hee that is weake eateth herbes Rom. 14. 2. Therefore the eating of flesh may rightly be forbidden for the weake ones sake Answ 1 Paul speaketh of those that be weake but the Church respecteth not the weake but onely their owne tyranny which they would establish by such superstitious precepts 2 Paul addeth presently vpon it let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not
hath beene sufficiently declared in the article of Iustification and the sayings of Scripture Acts 4 12. 1 Ioh 1 7. 2 1 2. doe witnesse 2 Errour They appoint a certaine measure to contritiâ— on and do teach that vnlesse it be sufficient there is no remission of sinnes granted We reiect this doctrine of sufficient contrition Because it breedeth a perpetuall doubting of the remission of sinnes the repentant sinner being alwaies in suspense and neuer knowing whether he be so contrite and sorrowfull as the measure of his sins do require therfore will alwaies be in doubt and anxiety whether his sinns be forgiuen Neither can his Confessor free him from this doubt For how shall he know certainly that the penitent mans contrition is sufficient for the greatnes and multitude of his sinnes And so at length he should thrust his penitent into the depth of desperation because he sendeth him to his owne sufficient contrition and not to the all-sufficient satisfaction of Christ By this doctrine of sufficient contrition the soule of maÌ„ is led to a thing simply impossible For how is contrition for all sins possible seeing the knowledge of all and euery sin in particular not only contrition for them is impossible and vnknowen vnto vs 1 Who can vnderstand his faults clense me from my secret faults Psal 19 12. 2 Thou hast set our secret sins in the light of thy countenance Psal 90 8. 3 Error They require satisfaction in their repentance or penance not the satisfaction of Christ but their owne which the priest receiuing confession must lay vpon him that confesseth that heereby satisfaction may be made to God by the sinner for his sinne Which same also cannot stand with the one alone satisfaction of Iesus Christ nor with the article of free iustification nor with the imperfeâ—tion of our good works Add heereto that those workes of satisfaction are for the most part works of their owne deuising which for that very respect are hatefull to God Which seeing they haue beene sufficiently handled before in their proper place it is not needefull now to repeate the same Let it suffice onely to note and reckon vp their errours The explication thereof the Readershall finde before in their due place 4 Errour In reckoning the parts of repentance they omit faith and take awaie as it were the soule or life of true Repentance For Contrition without faith is desperation as wee are taught by the most woefull examples of Cain and Iâ—das Iscarioâ— Whatsoeuer is not of faith is sinn Rom 14 23. Therefore Repentance without faith cannot please God that sinnes may beforginen Repentance without faith profited Esau nothing Heb 12 17. 5 Errour Mens Consciences also with our Aduersaries are most miserably tormented while they driue them that confesse to a particular rehearâ—ing of all and euery of their sinnes and that with euery circumstance of the facte fondly affiâ—ming that this same particular confession is meritorious by reason of the shame that is ioyned with it which vexing of mens consciences in the Church of God is not to be borne with for these reasons â— Because it hath no precept nor example of Christ or his Apostles Such auricular confession as they call it hath no promise of grace in the Word of God The Gospell is turned into the law whiles the desert of remission of sinnes is placed in the reckoning vp of offences as it were out of the tables of the law The Conscience is brought into perpeâ—uall doubting and at length into desperation on while a man feareth lest he haue forgotten some of his sinnes or lest he haue not rehearsed his sinnes with all circumstances necessarie to the remission of his sinnes And therfore he must alwaies doubt of the remission of his sins which how terrible a tormeÌ„t of Conscience it is men of conscience may easily iudge Hence it came to passe that superstitious men in Popery coulde scarse euer make anie end of confessing and yet still there arose new prickes of conscience Agaiâ—â— mens workes which cannot stand in Gods iudgment are placed in the roome of Christs satisfaction and the free forgiuenesse of sinns whileâ— such confession is made meritorious The doubtfull consâ—ience is driâ—en to an impossibility as before was cited out of Psal 19 12. 90. 8. Contrariwise our Aduersaries do dispute 1 In the Primitiue Church publike confession of â—innes by circumstances was required Answere 1 It was a part of ecâ—lesiasticall discipline which was woont to be performed before the whole Church by such persons as had grieuously fallen before the Church had any Christian Magistrates But that popish auricular confession was vnknowen to all antiquity There are therefore foure termes 2 God exercised priuate confession in Adam when he sayd Adam where art thou in Cain when hee asked where is Abel thy brother Gen 3 9 4 9. Answ 1. Those places prooue nothing lesse For Neither did Adam nor Cain reckon vp their sinnes but endeuour to cloke them But to preaâ—h to the impenitent the acknowledging of their sinnes to receiue confession in the care are things very far different 2. Neither did either Adam or Cain deserue anie thing by that confession which was with much a doe wrunge from them For Caine despaired and Adam belieuing on the promised seede of the woman was saued by faith not by the confession of his sinne The Argument then hangeth not together 3 Hee that hideth his sinnes shall not prosper but hee that confesseth and forsaketh them shall haue mercy Prou. 28 13. When I held my tongue my bones coÌ„sumed Psal 32 3. If we acknowledge our sinnes c. 1. Ioh. 1 9. therefore Auricular confession is grounded on the Scripture Ans 1. Seeing there is not one onely manner of confession but diuers they argue from that which is spoken indefinitely to the same taken definitely from a particular as from an vniversall for there is a confession before God there is a generall confession there is a particular before the Ministers before the Church before our brethren whom we haue offended c. All these things our Aduersaries do fondly confound together 4. The Iewes were baptized of Iohn and confessed their sinnes therefore he speaketh of Auricular confession Math. 3 6 Answer 1 There is more in the conclusion than in the Premisses for it followeth not they confessed themselues to be sinners therfore they confessed every one of their sinnes on the Popish manner 2 The text saith that Ierusalem all Iurie all the region about Iordan went out vnto Iohn c. of how much time then and how many tenne yeares had Iohn neede of if hee would haue heard the particular and secret enumeration of all and every their sinnes nothing therefore followeth 5. Christ saith Whosesoever sinnes yee remit they are remitted vnto them and whosesoevers sinnes yee retaine they are retained Ioh. 20 23. That it may therefore bee knowne what sinnes ought to be retained what not
which now are prayed vnto never were at all such as George Christopher c. are fained to haue beene Wee haue no examples of the inuocation of Saints and Angells in the Scripture but we haue examples to the contrary 1 Paul Barnabas would not be worshipped Act 14 14 15. 2 So the Angel of the Lord forbade himselfe to be worshipped Reuel 19 10 and 22 8 9. GOD accounteth all the worship of a Creature according to the worship of God idolatrie and esteemeth it as an Apostacy from GOD. 1 By the example of the Samarâ—tans who worshipped the creature together with GOD 2 King 17 41. 2 My people hath committed two euils they haue forsaken Mee the fountaine of liuing waters and digged to themselues broken cisternes Iere 2 13. 3 The Gentiles offended for that they woâ—shipped and serued the creature paraton ktisanâ—a beside the Creator Contrariwise our Aduersaries doe reason thus 1 Euen as in Princes Courts there is neede of some mediatour to procure accesse to Princes so when we would pray vnto God we haue neede of the Saints to be our mediatours Answ 1 Similitudes proue nothing 2 A certaine widowe calling to the Emperour of Rome for justice when he answeared I am not at leisure to heare thee then quoth she haue no leisure neither to be Emperour It is a similitude ill befitting this thing for it is a fault if Princes themselues refuse to heare their subiects either for negligence or pride And if they refuse because promiscuous admittance of all might bee dangerous to their persons or because themselues cannot doe all but leaue many things to their officers these bee infirmities which belong to men but no way to God For God is not as man 2 It is a point of Christian humility to seeke for a Mediatour when thou iudgest thy selfe vnworthâ—e Hos 11 9. Answ 1. We haue neede of humility but of true humility which is such that we esteeme our selues and the merits of all Saints more vnworthy than we may obtaine mercy for them but for Christs sake alone This is true humility which doth not leade vs from Christ Seeing then our Aduersaries meane another humility than this by this ambiguity of the word humility there arise foure termes 2 The popish humilitie is repugnant to the commandemeÌ„t of God For God saith Call vpon me in the day of trouble The Papists wil answer Lord humility teacheth me not to cal vpon thee because I am vnworthy 3 He that honoureth the friends of the Prince doth that which is acceptable to the Prince So the worship of Saints may be acceptable to God Ans 1 Againe our Aduersaries deale by Similitudes and coniectures in a matter of such difficulty 2 That saints are to bee honoured or reuerenced no man denieth but they may not so be honoured as that God be thereby robbed of his honour which is done by inuocation but they are honored by publishing the vertues wherewith God indued them and by imitating the godlinesse wherin they flourished 4 Christ is of greater dignitie than that we may dare to come vnto him because hee is made higher than the heauens Therefore we haue need of the mediation of Saints Ans 1 The Antecedent is false as hath bin shewed before And Christ calleth vs to come vnto him saying Come vnto me al c. Mat 11 28. 2 This is not humilitie but diffidence reproued condemned by God 5 Let my name bee called vpon these children and the name of my Fathers Abraham and Isaac c. Genes 48 16. Therefore the Saints are to bee called vpon in prayer Answ 1. The Papists deny that inuocation of Saints was in vse in the olde Testament the Fathers as their fable is beeing then in Limbus Why then doo they alleadge a testimony of the olde Testament 2 It is an hebrue phrase to call or name ones name ouer another that is to bee reckoned in his family as seauen women shall take holde on one man saying let thy name be called or named ouer vs that is let vs be called by thy name and so bee thou our husband Isay 4 1. 6 Though Moses Sâ—amuel stood before me yet mine affections could not bee toward this people Iâ—r 15 1. Ezech 14 14. Ans 1 A conditionall speech proueth nothing vnlesse the condition be first granted And the sense of the text doth shew that these men did not then stand before God for the people 2 The Papists themselues doe denie that they tâ—en stoode before God but they say they were in Limbus Therefore they alleadge this saying against their conscience 7 The Fathers in the olde Testament did often pray for the merites sake of the Patriarches as Iacob Genes 32 9. Moses Exod 32 13. Deute 9 27. Psal 132 10 c. Ans Let the places be considered it wil be manifest that they provoked not to the persons or merits of the patriarches but to the Couenant which God of his meere fauour and mercy had made with the Patriarches their posterity The argument then is altogether impertinent 8 As Absolon when he was reconciled to his father was not by and by admitted into his fathers presence 2 Sam 14 24. So sinners reconciled vnto God may not goe straight into Gods presence but must vse intermediate persons namely the Saints departed Ans 1 There is great difference between the reconciliation with God and reconciliation with a ciuill Magistrate and neither prescribeth any rule vnto other The argument then is vnfit and drawen from things of vnlike and different qualitie 2 The Heauenly Father is glad of the returne of his prodigall son and goeth out to meete him not waiting til some daies man make way for the sonne to his father Luke 15 20. 9 As Adonias did not himselfe goe vnto Salomon but sent his mother before whom the King set at his right hand so we send before vs the mother of Christ who is placed at the right hand of Christ 1 King 2 19. Answ 1. The Kingdome of Christ is one thing and an externall politick kingdome is an other neither can it be proued that the Kingdome of Christ is to bee gouerned on the same fashion as politick kingdomes vse to be 2 From this place we may conclude against our Aduersaries that as Adonias obtained nothing by his Mother so those which seek for the intercession of Saints sâ—al obtaine nothing nay they shall haue the heauenly King Christ angry with them 10 Call now if any will answere thee turn thee to some of the Saints Iob 5 1. Ans 1 The right translation is to which of the Saints wilt thou turne thee and the meaning is looke and see whom thou canst find to agree to thee or to which of the saints or holy men thou wilt be take thee for the defence of thy cause The godly will not and the vngodly cannot defend thy cause Where then shalt thou find any defence 2 Or Iobs friends bid him look