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A01004 God and the king. Or a dialogue wherein is treated of allegiance due to our most gracious Lord, King Iames, within his dominions Which (by remouing all controuersies, and causes of dissentions and suspitions) bindeth subiects, by an inuiolable band of loue and duty, to their soueraigne. Translated out of Latin into English.; Deus et rex. English Floyd, John, 1572-1649.; More, Thomas, 1565-1625, attributed name. 1620 (1620) STC 11110.7; ESTC S107002 53,200 142

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whic● the cheefest Pretendents in that refor●mation had notice at loast in confu●● and in generall as the said Archbisho● affirmeth and did secre●ly conniu● thereunto fauouring no doubt in ha●● a popular state where Church-doctrine and discipline is receaued reiected by voices In which gouernment these fiery Ghospellers as hi● Maiesty calleth them beeing com●monly men of sharpe wits and ready tongues high minded and of working spirits might beare great sway euery one rule as King and Pope in his parish Since that time these men haue been in shew both for doctrine practise more moderate specially ●ince his Maiesties happy raigne and that some of them haue been aduaunced to dignities Now they are become the forwardest in shew ●or defence of Allegiance they speake most against the Papists that hold Kings to be deposable in some cases They extoll Royall authority aboue the skyes I can i● Charity beleeue that some of them meane as they professe yet wisedome giues leaue to feare rec●nciled emenies Poison no where lurketh more securely then in hony Their present doctrine carrieth outwardly a shew of friendship to Kings but ●o will ●ooke into the ground shall finde it dangerous to them and more pernicious then the former of Caluin Goodman Beza Knox Buchanan and others ●heir predecessors and Maisters The ●umme of this their doctrine is con●eyned in the Treatise intituled God ●he King The Authour whereof had ●o reason to tearme himselfe Theodi●act that is Taught of God seing he spea●eth diuers thinges that the spirit of God could not suggest vnto him He ●ndertaketh the proofe of foure pro●ositions The first is That Kings haue ●uthority immediately only from God the Church and people not being any thing in the ●uist thereof This is the fundamentall ●●one whereon is built the second ●hat Kings haue no superior on earth to cha●●ise and punish them The third is That ●either Tyranny nor Heresy nor Apostacy can release subiects of their Obediēce The fourth That Kings may neither be deposed nor resisted but by teares and prayers though they should be so tyrannous prophane as to endeauour to oppresse the whole Church and Commonwealth at once and vtterly to extinguish the light of Christian Religion Philanax These speaches may be disgustfull to Subiects and sound vncou●hly in their ●ares but doctrine that doth so magnify Kings I see not how it may be thought pernicious to them Aristobulus Kinges are not to regard so much how great and glorious as how grounded be the titles that are bestowed on them seeing incredible praises giuen to men do oftentimes abate the credit of their deserued commendation Some Ghospellers as a iudicious Protestant complaines attributing to the holy Scripture more then it cā haue the incredibility of that hath caused euen those things which in deede it hath most aboundantly to be the lesse reuerently esteemed The same we may ●are will happen to the authority of Kinges And the danger of such flat●ering speculations as this Dialogist ●each●th is so much the greater to the Soueraigne whilest they extoll him ●boue measure to the state of absolute Lord God vpō earth as it is hatefull ●o the subiect to see himself abased to ●eruile abhorred ●●ptiuity put to ● more miserable condition then the ●ondage of slaues For slaues to speak nothing of humane lawes that haue ●ppointed limits to their miseries ●aue some rightes and liberties by the ●aw of nature inuiolable which if ●hey be able they may defend by force ●gainst euen their owne Maisters that shall violently and vniustly inuade ●hem● Such liberty they haue to marry ●nd propagate humane kind to enioy ●ife so longe as they haue done no●hing worthy of death but principally ●o worship God their maker and su●reme Lord. But this new doctrine of Princely absolute Soueraignty set ●owne in the Treatise mentioned ●akes the Common-wealth so mise●able and the people such bondmen to their Prince that they may not defen●● their nationall freedomes how iust necessary soeuer nor the liberties an● rightes that nature hath bequea●●e● euen vpon slaues But that if th● Prince wanton in cruelty should kee● men by force frō marrying so to bring the Common-wealth to vtter de●olation in one age ●r if not hauing pati●ence to attend that lingring consump●tion of the state he should daily sen● mē by multitudes like heards of sheep or oxen to the slaughter or if out o● a desire his subiects may perish eternally he should seek vtterly to extinguish the doctrine of saluation within his Realmes In these cases I say o● the like of extreamest necessity and most hostile inuasion according to th● doctrine of this Dialogist they may not lift vp so much as their finger against his attempts nor ioyne with any power vpon earth that would releeue them Philanax I see plainly that this doctrine is very odious in it self and you set it forth to the vttermost Aristobulus I say no more then his owne wor●es import nor haue described tyrāny ●ore truly then he hath done in his Dialogue And I know so well there is ●o cause to feare the practise of this ●octrine by his gratious Maiesty that I would not haue said thus much but to ●hew how odiously ●nemies of Royalty may and will exagitate this Conclu●ion when such discourses shal be for ●he aduantage of popularity Now ●hey write and cause Treatises to be ●ublished by authority which when ●ime shall serue they may vse to make ●is Maiesty hatefull By the like stra●ageme the Puritans of Scotland ouer●hrew his Maiesti●s Mother When ●hey had barbarously slayne the Kinge ●er husband they importunely vrged ●e● alledging it was necessary for the maintenance of her state and life to marry with the Earle of Bothwell ●oncealing from her that he had been ●heef actor in the murther The mar●iage was no sooner concluded but ●hey diuulged the hatefullnes therof● thence seeking to persuade the world she had been consenting to her husbands death And so what with defa●matory libells abroad what wit● their turbulent declamations at hom● they made her odious they tooke from her the Crown● they tossed her frō mi●sery to misery till finally they brough● h●r to lay her head on the blocke to b● cut off by the comon Executioner ● hope his Maiesties happy raygne shal● neuer see commotion in this state ye● if any such tumult happen and human things are vncertain I do not feare to be found a false Prophet in saying tha● this doctrine wil be bitterly exclaime● against and this Treatise I speake of● produced to witnes what desperate allegiance Princes exact and vrged no● only against his Maiesty but as a caus● sufficient to banish Kings out of th● Land The late Lord of Canterbury complaynes that in his dayes cantonin● of Kingdomes was in many mens mouthes tha● men did talke what a notable thing it is to liu● in Venice● where euery gentleman liueth wit● as great liberty as the Duke