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A12800 Cassander Anglicanus shewing the necessity of conformitie to the prescribed ceremonies of our church, in case of depriuation. By Iohn Sprint, minister of Thornbury in Glocester-shire, sometimes of Christ-Church in Oxon. Sprint, John, d. 1623. 1618 (1618) STC 23108; ESTC S117795 199,939 306

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fire_n let_v that_o be_v the_o light_n a_o little_a before_o o_o master_n harding_n turn_v to_o your_o writing_n examine_v your_o authority_n consider_v your_o counsel_n apply_v your_o example_n look_v if_o any_o line_n be_v blamable_a in_o your_o service_n book_n and_o take_v hold_v of_o your_o advantage_n i_o think_v master_n jewel_n will_v accept_v it_o as_o a_o article_n this_o be_v their_o judgement_n of_o our_o ceremony_n in_o general_a which_o how_o opposite_a it_o be_v unto_o the_o doctrine_n of_o suffer_a deprivation_n for_o not_o conform_v to_o they_o i_o need_v not_o say_v no_o not_o to_o man_n of_o a_o contrary_a judgement_n we_o will_v descend_v unto_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o particular_n touch_v the_o surplice_n melancthon_n &_o benhagius_n in_o the_o territory_n of_o marquis_n albertus_n the_o prince_n and_o court_n require_v the_o pastor_n to_o embrace_v and_o follow_v the_o whole_a book_n of_o the_o augustane_n confession_n refusal_n thereof_o be_v make_v pio_fw-la consensu_fw-la by_o the_o godly_a agreement_n of_o the_o nobility_n or_o gentry_n of_o the_o citizen_n and_o pastor_n the_o court_n hereupon_o run_v on_o another_o deliberation_n propose_v article_n which_o alter_v not_o the_o doctrine_n and_o the_o leturgie_n but_o thrust_v upon_o they_o more_o ceremony_n which_o yet_o howsoever_o may_v well_o enough_o be_v bear_v add_v withal_o a_o threaten_a that_o they_o who_o will_v not_o follow_v this_o prescription_n shall_v depart_v albeit_o many_o pastor_n have_v rather_o have_v depart_v then_o yield_v to_o such_o condition_n yet_o the_o church_n request_v that_o they_o may_v not_o be_v forsake_v in_o such_o a_o strait_n what_o council_n shall_v be_v give_v some_o more_o forward_o affirm_v that_o it_o be_v good_a the_o court_n be_v fright_v with_o some_o terrible_a writing_n with_o the_o fear_n of_o sedition_n and_o with_o this_o scarecrow_n to_o repress_v and_o hinder_v far_a alteration_n there_o be_v many_o cause_n why_o we_o will_v not_o give_v any_o such_o advice_n neither_o will_v we_o have_v the_o church_n forsake_v as_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v in_o swevia_n where_o in_o many_o church_n there_o remain_v either_o no_o minister_n or_o a_o wolf_n which_o bring_v in_o again_o impious_a doctrine_n and_o false_a worship_n that_o it_o may_v evident_o appear_v that_o we_o wilful_o dissent_v not_o from_o the_o papist_n our_o adversary_n we_o contend_v about_o great_a matter_n in_o the_o which_o the_o evidence_n of_o truth_n do_v convince_v the_o more_o sound_n even_o among_o the_o adversary_n that_o we_o judge_v to_o be_v more_o profitable_a then_o to_o wrangle_v about_o a_o surplice_n or_o the_o like_a matter_n where_o wise_a man_n will_v exclaim_v against_o we_o that_o we_o withstand_v and_o disobey_v authority_n and_o nourish_v dissension_n with_o a_o foolish_a frowardness_n council_n melanth_n part_n 2._o fol._n 90._o 91._o again_o we_o persuade_v not_o that_o by_o the_o use_n of_o these_o ceremony_n as_o the_o surplice_n the_o church_n shall_v be_v trouble_v neither_o be_v we_o which_o thus_o persuade_v in_o this_o case_n to_o conformity_n in_o less_o grief_n and_o peril_n than_o they_o who_o stand_v against_o it_o but_o where_o new_a burden_n be_v impose_v we_o think_v fit_a that_o it_o be_v judge_v whether_o church_n be_v to_o be_v leave_v to_o wolf_n or_o solitude_n and_o utter_a overthrow_n of_o they_o to_o be_v admit_v or_o else_o whether_o servitude_n of_o use_v these_o prescribe_a ceremony_n be_v to_o be_v endure_v for_o neither_o will_v we_o have_v any_o impious_a ceremony_n to_o be_v receive_v neither_o the_o church_n to_o be_v forsake_v without_o most_o weighty_a reason_n as_o it_o be_v write_v not_o forsake_v the_o fellowship_n etc._n etc._n ibid._n fol._n 92._o again_o melancthon_n sure_o i_o can_v have_v wish_v in_o these_o great_a occasion_n that_o these_o church_n have_v by_o no_o alteration_n or_o imposition_n of_o these_o ceremony_n such_o as_o surplice_n etc._n etc._n be_v trouble_v but_o i_o cofesse_v i_o persuade_v the_o franck._n church_n and_o other_o that_o they_o will_v not_o forsake_v the_o church_n for_o such_o servitude_n which_o without_o impiety_n may_v be_v sustain_v miricus_n out_o cry_v that_o rather_o desolation_n shall_v be_v make_v in_o the_o church_n and_o that_o prince_n be_v to_o be_v fright_v with_o the_o terror_n of_o insurrection_n for_o my_o part_n i_o will_v be_v author_n of_o no_o such_o sour_a advice_n and_o for_o our_o part_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o we_o endure_v far_o more_o heavy_a and_o hard_a burden_n in_o our_o place_n then_o be_v a_o linen_n garment_n etc._n etc._n fol._n 106._o again_o melancthon_n i_o persuade_v that_o desolation_n shall_v not_o be_v make_v in_o the_o church_n for_o the_o refuse_v of_o a_o linen_n garment_n or_o matter_n of_o the_o like_a nature_n ibid._n fol._n 108._o bucer_n i_o be_o persuade_v that_o godly_a man_n may_v use_v these_o garment_n godly_a in_o script_n anglican_n censur_fw-fr fol._n 458._o again_o to_o the_o question_n move_v by_o bishop_n cranmer_n to_o he_o whether_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n may_v use_v the_o surplice_n prescribe_v by_o the_o magistrate_n after_o he_o have_v put_v in_o this_o caveat_n that_o his_o answer_n concern_v only_o such_o as_o be_v true_a and_o faithful_a preacher_n of_o god_n word_n answer_v that_o he_o judge_v those_o minister_n who_o be_v such_o in_o the_o english_a church_n may_v by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n use_v these_o garment_n if_o so_o withal_o they_o do_v preach_v the_o whole_a truth_n and_o perfect_a detestation_n of_o the_o antichrist_n of_o rome_n and_o teach_v withal_o that_o their_o meaning_n be_v not_o hereby_o to_o establish_v any_o antichristian_a corruption_n that_o the_o minister_n by_o they_o be_v nothing_o more_o holy_a than_o other_o man_n neither_o the_o more_o effectual_a to_o please_v god_n neither_o that_o they_o thereby_o intend_v to_o revolve_v
apostle_n at_o jerusalem_n to_o circumcise_v titus_n 5._o titus_n aretius_n in_o act_n 16._o 3._o fol._n 75._o gualther_n in_o act_n 16._o hom_n 106._o fol._n 149._o beza_n annotat_fw-la in_o gal._n 2._o 5._o because_o they_o be_v urge_v as_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n act_v 15._o 15._o because_o by_o they_o false_a brethren_n labour_v to_o bring_v their_o christian_a liberty_n into_o bondage_n gal._n 2._o 3._o 4._o because_o by_o that_o practice_n in_o that_o sense_n he_o shall_v teach_v justification_n by_o work_n gal._n 2._o 14._o 15._o 16._o this_o case_n sort_v therefore_o to_o the_o papist_n who_o teach_v that_o god_n be_v worship_v by_o they_o that_o a_o man_n be_v justify_v by_o practise_v of_o they_o that_o a_o man_n be_v bind_v in_o conscience_n to_o use_v they_o as_o he_o be_v the_o precept_n of_o god_n all_o which_o false_a doctrine_n be_v in_o so_o many_o word_n disclaim_v both_o by_o oath_n doctrine_n and_o confession_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o book_n of_o the_o article_n of_o religion_n as_o also_o in_o 34._o artic._n 11._o 20._o 34._o the_o preface_n to_o the_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n where_o the_o superstitious_a use_n of_o these_o ceremony_n be_v disclaim_v as_o also_o the_o opinion_n of_o god_n worship_n by_o they_o and_o the_o reason_n set_v down_o of_o prescribe_v these_o namely_o the_o quiet_a and_o decent_a order_n in_o the_o church_n and_o that_o the_o conveniency_n or_o agreement_n of_o our_o case_n with_o the_o apostle_n conform_v not_o with_o the_o apostle_n refuse_v the_o jewish_a ceremony_n may_v the_o better_o appear_v i_o have_v add_v these_o parallel_n which_o i_o desire_v may_v be_v consider_v the_o apostle_n and_o the_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n the_o church_n of_o england_n to_o avoid_v offence_n of_o weak_a and_o obstinate_a jew_n and_o to_o win_v they_o to_o avoid_v offence_n of_o weak_a and_o obstinate_a papist_n and_o to_o win_v they_o prescribe_v and_o enjoin_v ceremony_n abuse_v superstitious_o prescribe_v and_o enjoin_v ceremony_n abuse_v superstitious_o hold_v as_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n and_o needful_a to_o salvation_n hold_v as_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n and_o needful_a to_o salvation_n by_o the_o unbelieved_a and_o weak_a jew_n by_o the_o superstitious_a papist_n popish_o affect_v but_o not_o by_o the_o apostle_n nor_o faithful_a christian_a but_o not_o by_o any_o sincere_a protestant_n teacher_n or_o people_n the_o member_n therefore_o of_o either_o church_n may_v and_o ought_v equal_o to_o conform_v to_o either_o ceremony_n in_o a_o case_n of_o necessity_n and_o of_o superior_a reason_n again_o the_o apostle_n the_o deprive_v minister_n in_o a_o case_n of_o superior_a reason_n as_o to_o further_o the_o gospel_n &_o to_o prevent_v the_o hinder_v of_o their_o preach_n in_o a_o case_n of_o superior_a reason_n as_o to_o further_o the_o gospel_n to_o prevent_v their_o deprivation_n and_o suspension_n conform_v to_o ceremony_n many_o way_n inconvenient_a abuse_v superstitious_o and_o hold_v necessary_a by_o the_o jew_n ought_v to_o conform_v to_o ceremony_n though_o many_o way_n inconvenient_a in_o their_o opinion_n abuse_v to_o superstition_n &_o hold_v necessary_a by_o the_o papist_n impose_v by_o weakness_n and_o violence_n of_o the_o jew_n impose_v and_o urge_v as_o they_o construe_v it_o by_o weak_a christian_n &_o authority_n threaten_v deprivation_n object_n other_o perceive_v more_o force_n in_o this_o argument_n than_o some_o have_v do_v to_o press_v they_o to_o the_o practice_n of_o our_o ceremony_n in_o the_o case_n of_o deprivation_n and_o yet_o remain_v peremptory_a in_o their_o former_a judgement_n do_v answer_v it_o another_o way_n thus_o answ_n that_o saint_n paul_n do_v evil_a in_o vow_v shave_v himself_o contribute_v offer_v sacrifice_n circumcise_n timothy_n because_o they_o be_v ceremony_n of_o practice_n but_o the_o apostle_n constitution_n act_v 15._o 28_o be_v only_o of_o ceremony_n of_o omission_n of_o like_a nature_n with_o our_o abstain_v from_o flesh_n on_o fast_a day_n not_o of_o the_o cross_n or_o surplice_n they_o who_o thus_o reply_n have_v have_v i_o confess_v a_o light_n of_o this_o their_o answer_n from_o some_o 70._o some_o hier._n apud_fw-la august_n epist_n 19_o hierom._n ep._n 89._o gualt_n in_o act_n 23._o hon_n 138._o fol._n 248._o bullin_n in_o act_n 21._o m._n parker_n of_o the_o cross_n part_n 2._o sect_n 14_o fol._n 70._o learned_a man_n which_o usual_o have_v their_o difference_n from_o other_o according_a to_o the_o reason_n move_v they_o who_o thus_o do_v censure_v saint_n paul_n in_o these_o action_n yet_o gaulter_n and_o bull_n do_v only_o doubt_v of_o the_o place_n act_v 21._o not_o of_o the_o rest_n but_o to_o this_o i_o say_v we_o may_v probable_o see_v how_o these_o replier_n if_o they_o have_v live_v in_o these_o day_n will_v have_v behave_v themselves_o towards_o the_o holy_a apostle_n at_o least_o they_o will_v have_v reproove_v he_o and_o condemn_v he_o for_o commit_v a_o sin_n and_o will_v by_o all_o mean_n have_v dislike_v his_o do_n yea_o they_o will_v have_v cast_v off_o a_o thousand_o weak_a believe_v and_o obstinate_a jew_n and_o suffer_v deprivation_n of_o a_o thousand_o ministry_n rather_o than_o to_o conform_v to_o that_o which_o the_o inspire_a apostle_n paul_n do_v submit_v himself_o unto_o but_o withal_o we_o may_v consider_v whether_o authority_n in_o practice_n be_v rather_o to_o be_v esteem_v they_o or_o saint_n paul_n and_o indeed_o it_o be_v a_o miserable_a shift_n when_o no_o better_a answer_n can_v be_v frame_v to_o accuse_v the_o inspire_a apostle_n in_o their_o do_n because_o their_o practice_n will_v not_o stand_v with_o the_o reason_n which_o themselves_o have_v frame_v or_o undertake_v to_o maintain_v the_o suffering_n of_o deprivation_n for_o refuse_v to_o conform_v a_o very_a feeble_a answer_n as_o i_o suppose_v which_o will_v not_o stand_v but_o by_o heave_v at_o the_o pillar_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n though_o they_o accuse_v the_o apostle_n for_o this_o conformity_n yet_o the_o scripture_n do_v not_o so_o and_o it_o may_v seem_v to_o much_o boldness_n to_o speak_v especial_o in_o so_o dangerous_a a_o case_n of_o lay_v sin_n unto_o the_o charge_n of_o such_o and_o so_o great_a person_n where_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v silent_a but_o this_o practice_n of_o s._n paul_n may_v be_v easy_o and_o strong_o justify_v 1._o because_o he_o be_v advise_v to_o this_o practice_n by_o saint_n james_n and_o the_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n act_v 21._o 18_o 20_o 21_o 23_o 24._o which_o person_n injoin_v other_o jewish_a ceremony_n in_o the_o like_a case_n be_v direct_v and_o inspire_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n in_o so_o do_v act_v 25._o 28_o 29._o 2._o because_o the_o holy_a ghost_n seem_v to_o justify_v the_o reason_n of_o paul_n in_o circumcise_n timothy_n not_o only_o in_o not_o condemn_v he_o in_o his_o practice_n but_o in_o approve_v of_o his_o reason_n in_o so_o do_v act_v 16._o 3._o paul_n circumcise_v he_o because_o of_o the_o jew_n of_o those_o quarter_n for_o say_v the_o holy_a ghost_n in_o the_o text_n they_o know_v all_o that_o his_o father_n be_v a_o grecian_a 3._o because_o paul_n justifi_v this_o practice_n of_o he_o in_o those_o scripture_n of_o his_o epistle_n wherein_o undoubted_o he_o do_v not_o err_v as_o the_o 1._o cor._n 9_o 19_o 20._o 21._o 22._o 23._o and_o 10._o 13._o and_o give_v a_o main_a reason_n thereof_o because_o by_o his_o practice_n he_o will_v win_v the_o more_o unto_o the_o like_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o be_v a_o mean_n of_o their_o salvation_n 4_o because_o it_o can_v be_v imagine_v that_o paul_n be_v ignorant_a if_o it_o be_v a_o sin_n for_o he_o be_v at_o the_o synod_n at_o jerusalem_n chap._n 15._o where_o circumcision_n &_o other_o ceremony_n be_v deny_v in_o other_o case_n and_o if_o he_o know_v it_o to_o be_v a_o sin_n it_o be_v strange_a he_o shall_v so_o many_o time_n fall_v into_o a_o relapse_n act_v 16._o 18._o and_o 21._o and_o observe_v the_o jewish_a sabbath_n so_o continual_o act_v 17._o 8._o and_o 18._o 4._o and_o 13._o 14._o 44._o 5_o aretius_n give_v another_o reason_n to_o justify_v this_o fact_n of_o paul_n 95._o paul_n aretius_n in_o cap._n act_n 21._o fol._n 95._o antiocheia_n ecclesia_fw-la bona_fw-la parte_fw-la constabat_fw-la ex_fw-la gentibus_fw-la itaque_fw-la maior_fw-la pars_fw-la non_fw-la erat_fw-la offendenda_fw-la in_o gratiam_fw-la paucorum_fw-la hic_fw-la vero_fw-la jerosolymis_fw-la maior_fw-la pars_fw-la imo_fw-la omnes_fw-la judaei_n sunt_fw-la quos_fw-la paulus_n debuit_fw-la considerare_fw-la and_o of_o his_o judgement_n be_v the_o best_a interpreter_n namely_o augustine_n caluin_n beza_n aretius_n piscator_fw-la gualther_n zanchius_n junius_n bucanus_n who_o with_o one_o consent_n do_v hold_v these_o thing_n indifferent_a which_o indifferent_a thing_n shall_v serve_v for_o the_o edification_n of_o the_o church_n touch_v the_o apostle_n constituion_n
we_o have_v expound_v namely_o of_o ceremony_n significative_a ordain_v by_o the_o church_n not_o superstitious_o but_o pure_o use_v this_o argument_n also_o have_v zanch._n the_o redempt_n cap._n 16._o fol._n 445._o a._n there_o be_v a_o great_a question_n say_v he_o in_o these_o our_o day_n about_o ministerial_a garment_n sure_o we_o read_v not_o that_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n do_v appoint_v any_o thing_n of_o this_o matter_n neither_o that_o they_o change_v their_o garment_n either_o when_o they_o baptize_v or_o when_o they_o administer_v the_o lord_n supper_n but_o neither_o do_v they_o forbid_v that_o man_n may_v not_o take_v other_o garment_n wherefore_o it_o be_v liberum_fw-la pierce_v a_o matter_n free_a in_o itself_o to_o use_v or_o not_o to_o use_v other_o garment_n in_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n because_o if_o true_a christian_n have_v the_o pure_a doctrine_n of_o christ_n &_o discipline_n in_o their_o church_n shall_v enjoin_v some_o special_a 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angel_n mal._n 3._o 1._o and_o the_o angel_n always_o for_o the_o most_o part_n appear_v as_o apparel_v in_o white_a garment_n pet._n martyr_n loc_fw-la fol._n 1085._o hoopero_n bucer_n will_v have_v they_o signify_v caelesten_n puritatem_fw-la &_o candorem_fw-la omniumque_fw-la virtutum_fw-la ornatum_fw-la heavenly_a purity_n and_o sincerity_n and_o the_o ornament_n of_o all_o virtue_n script_n angl._n fol._n 682._o so_o also_o fol._n 707._o 709._o again_o what_o shall_v let_v but_o that_o the_o church_n may_v use_v this_o white_a vesture_n or_o more_o vesture_n to_o monish_v we_o precise_o of_o that_o divine_a benefit_n of_o the_o light_n and_o dignity_n of_o the_o heavenly_a doctrine_n which_o he_o give_v we_o by_o the_o holy_a ministry_n and_o by_o the_o which_o the_o minister_n themselves_o may_v be_v the_o more_o mindful_a of_o their_o office_n etc._n etc._n bucer_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o io._n alasco_n at_o the_o end_n of_o the_o examination_n this_o reason_n also_o have_v zanch._n albeit_o a_o garment_n be_v a_o free_a thing_n say_v he_o and_o number_v up_o among_o matter_n indifferent_a yet_o for_o signification_n a_o linen_n garment_n be_v more_o decent_a than_o a_o woollen_a for_o a_o minister_n to_o use_v in_o administer_a the_o sacrament_n for_o that_o it_o be_v the_o impress_n or_o type_n of_o innocence_n and_o holiness_n hence_o in_o the_o apocalyps_n white_a garment_n be_v give_v to_o the_o saint_n zanch._n the_o redempt_n cap._n 16._o fol._n 445._o a._n because_o these_o ceremony_n be_v ancient_a and_o have_v some_o good_a use_n it_o be_v a_o old_a custom_n in_o the_o church_n that_o such_o as_o administer_v the_o sacrament_n shall_v wear_v a_o white_a linen_n garment_n zanch._n ibid._n ex_fw-la hieron_n count_n pelag._n li._n 1._o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n be_v vetustissima_fw-la very_o ancient_a beza_n epi._n 8._o fol._n 75._o there_o be_v therefore_o some_o use_n thereof_o though_o since_o it_o have_v be_v horrible_o abuse_v and_o there_o be_v small_a profit_n thereof_o bez._n ep._n 12._o fol._n 99_o kneel_v at_o the_o communion_n have_v a_o show_n indeed_o of_o godly_a &_o christian_a reverence_n and_o therefore_o may_v heretofore_o have_v be_v use_v cum_fw-la fructu_fw-la with_o some_o profit_n ibid._n fol._n 100_o because_o if_o we_o proceed_v to_o dissuade_v from_o these_o indifferent_a thing_n as_o from_o pernicious_a and_o evil_a thing_n we_o shall_v thereby_o condemn_v very_o many_o church_n not_o disagree_v from_o the_o gospel_n and_o shall_v tax_v too_o bitter_o innumerable_a church_n which_o have_v ever_o and_o be_v of_o old_a celebrate_v as_o most_o commendable_a and_o approve_a p._n mart._n loc_fw-la fol._n 1086._o hoopero_n if_o agreement_n in_o doctrine_n may_v be_v procure_v between_o the_o saxon_a or_o lutheran_n church_n and_o we_o there_o will_v be_v no_o separation_n make_v for_o surplesses_n or_o ceremony_n of_o the_o like_a nature_n ib_a fol._n 1127._o bucer_n have_v also_o this_o reason_n if_o there_o be_v no_o liberty_n grant_v to_o the_o church_n of_o ordain_v ceremony_n about_o the_o lord_n supper_n whereof_o they_o have_v not_o the_o express_a commandment_n of_o christ_n by_o this_o mean_n will_v all_o church_n be_v condemn_v impiae_fw-la audaciae_fw-la of_o impious_a boldness_n for_o all_o church_n do_v observe_v in_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n such_o a_o time_n place_n and_o habit_n or_o site_n of_o body_n and_o beside_o do_v admit_v woman_n to_o the_o communion_n of_o all_o which_o thing_n they_o have_v not_o only_o no_o commandment_n of_o the_o lord_n but_o they_o have_v also_o his_o contrary_a example_n for_o our_o lord_n do_v celebrate_v his_o supper_n at_o night_n not_o in_o the_o morning_n in_o a_o private_a house_n not_o in_o a_o public_a lean_v with_o his_o apostle_n and_o after_o the_o receive_n of_o the_o pascall_n lamb_n notwithstanding_o also_o he_o admit_v not_o the_o woman_n among_o who_o he_o have_v sundry_a his_o most_o holy_a disciple_n bucer_n scrip._n anglic._n fol._n 807._o 809._o to_o this_o reason_n pet._n martyr_n move_v a_o objection_n the_o church_n authority_n present_a or_o past_a ought_v not_o to_o be_v of_o that_o force_n that_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n word_n be_v thereby_o wrong_v which_o albeit_o the_o world_n do_v fall_v about_o our_o ear_n in_o piece_n ought_v to_o be_v keep_v inviolable_a it_o be_v true_a sed_fw-la propter_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o for_o thing_n indifrent_a i_o be_o resolute_a that_o by_o no_o mean_n we_o may_v admit_v that_o either_o church_n shall_v be_v condemn_v or_o that_o we_o shall_v less_o reverent_o or_o honest_o speak_v of_o they_o ibid._n fol._n 1086._o because_o we_o must_v take_v heed_n lest_o these_o thing_n which_o be_v of_o less_o importance_n through_o our_o contention_n may_v be_v the_o mean_n or_o occasion_n that_o those_o thing_n which_o shall_v be_v esteem_v of_o great_a force_n and_o value_n either_o can_v at_o all_o be_v bring_v unto_o the_o church_n or_o if_o they_o be_v once_o bring_v in_o they_o can_v be_v establish_v with_o continuance_n peter_n martyr_n ibid._n 1086._o because_o we_o must_v take_v heed_n of_o satan_n accustom_a sleight_n whereby_o he_o lead_v we_o away_o from_o the_o care_n of_o necessary_a thing_n to_o the_o immoderate_a carefulness_n of_o those_o thing_n which_o may_v well_o be_v let_v pass_v and_o from_o search_v out_o of_o the_o true_a doctrine_n of_o christ_n to_o induce_v we_o to_o those_o thing_n wherein_o few_o can_v consent_v alike_o and_o final_o by_o the_o which_o he_o kindle_v in_o diverse_a man_n a_o zeal_n to_o purge_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v without_o we_o thereby_o to_o neglect_v our_o inward_a deformity_n bucer_n epist._n ad_fw-la joan._n alasco_n after_o at_o the_o end_n of_o that_o epistle_n this_o coulorable_a craft_n of_o satan_n must_v be_v take_v heed_n of_o by_o which_o often_o he_o effect_v this_o that_o we_o reckon_v those_o thing_n sin_n which_o be_v no_o sin_n and_o 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action_n that_o chief_o seem_v to_o conduce_v which_o be_v write_v by_o the_o apostle_n unto_o titus_n all_o thing_n be_v clean_o unto_o the_o clean_a and_o unto_o timothy_n every_o creature_n of_o god_n be_v good_a but_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_o require_v that_o we_o have_v a_o express_a mention_n of_o every_o particular_a and_o singular_a thing_n which_o we_o use_v to_o do_v this_o be_v sufficient_a in_o general_n to_o know_v by_o faith_n that_o indifferent_a thing_n can_v defile_v those_o which_o use_v they_o with_o a_o sincere_a mind_n and_o conscience_n loc._n come_v inter_fw-la epist._n fol._n 1088._o hooper_n object_n bb._n hooper_n these_o ceremony_n be_v aaronicall_a and_o jewish_a a_o imitation_n of_o the_o aaronicall_a priesthood_n and_o therefore_o aught_o to_o be_v eschew_v of_o all_o that_o love_n christ_n answ_n bucer_n 1._o though_o i_o admit_v your_o antecedent_n yet_o your_o conclusion_n follow_v not_o for_o to_o imitate_v aaron_n ceremony_n be_v not_o of_o 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