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A13295 A reply to a pretended Christian plea for the anti-Chistian [sic] Church of Rome: published by Mr. Francis Iohnson a⁰. 1617 Wherin the weakness of the sayd plea is manifested, and arguments alleaged for the Church of Rome, and baptisme therein, are refuted; by Henry Ainsworth. Anno 1618. Ainsworth, Henry, 1571-1622? 1620 (1620) STC 236; ESTC S122155 171,683 191

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abuse_n of_o these_o divine_a ordinance_n shall_v nor_o justify_v but_o the_o more_o condemn_v she_o 9_o to_o his_o nine_o and_o last_o reason_n if_o baptism_n be_v renounce_v then_o also_o the_o article_n of_o ●aith_n the_o scripture_n and_o translation_n likewise_o marriage_n dissolve_v etc._n etc._n i_o answer_v farr_n be_v it_o that_o we_o shall_v renounce_v any_o good_a thing_n which_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n abuse_v any_o more_o than_o paul_n renounce_v the_o true_a god_n who_o the_o athenian_n ignorant_o worship_v ao●_n 17._o 23._o whatsoever_o be_v of_o divine_a institution_n among_o papist_n jew_o turk_n or_o heathen_n we_o renounce_v it_o not_o but_o their_o profanation_n and_o abuse_n of_o holy_a thing_n we_o do_v renounce_v neither_o can_v we_o justify_v their_o estate_n or_o any_o holy_a thing_n in_o their_o sinful_a abuse_n of_o it_o ●_o though_o we_o put_v difference_n between_o the_o thing_n which_o in_o their_o ow●●_n nature_n be_v good_a and_o the_o person_n which_o be_v evil_a thus_o man_n ma●_n see_v how_o weak_a and_o without_o edge_n his_o reason_n be_v to_o justify_v the_o bap_n tisme_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v in_o their_o use_n of_o it_o the_o true_a seal_n of_o god_n covenant_n of_o grace_n in_o christ_n unto_o they_o next_o this_o he_o set_v himself_o to_o answer_v objection_n 30._o the_o first_o whereof_o he_o make_v this_o but_o 71-75_a the_o baptism_n have_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n i●_n not_o true_a baptism_n but_o a_o idol_n and_o lie_a sign_n a_o detestable_a and_o curse_a sacrament_n a_o fiction_n and_o not_o true_a christian_a baptism_n cl._n no_o better_o then_o when_o we_o wash_v our_o own_o face_n with_o water_n daily_o etc._n etc._n answ._n that_o it_o
a_o good_a creature_n of_o god_n also_o idolatrous_o abuse_v the_o bread_n in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v in_o deed_n a_o idol_n to_o papist_n that_o worship_v it_o as_o their_o maker_n yet_o be_v it_o also_o in_o itself_o god_n ordinance_n idolatrous_o abuse_v so_o be_v popish_a baptism_n he_o may_v even_o as_o well_o say_v that_o reubens_n fact_n in_o lie_v with_o his_o father_n concubine_n be_v not_o in_o deed_n adultery_n but_o a_o abuse_n of_o god_n ordinance_n of_o marriage_n or_o a_o defile_n of_o his_o father_n bed_n gen._n 35._o 22._o &_o 49._o 4._o 5._o moreover_o the_o brazen_a serpent_n be_v but_o a_o temporary_a ordinance_n etc._n etc._n ans._n this_o be_v the_o twelve_o of_o his_o shift_n before_o now_o he_o repeat_v and_o multiply_v it_o among_o his_o error_n i_o refer_v the_o reader_n to_o my_o former_a answer_n 6_o that_o the_o romish_a baptism_n be_v a_o impure_a idol_n in_o their_o abuse_n stand_v up_o in_o the_o place_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o precious_a blood_n which_o it_o be_v not_o pretend_v to_o give_v grace_n etc._n etc._n which_o it_o do_v not_o but_o the_o baptism_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v god_n ordinance_n have_v and_o plant_v there_o by_o the_o apostle_n etc._n etc._n these_o be_v the_o error_n and_o abuse_n of_o man_n about_o it_o not_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o baptism_n itself_o otherweise_v all_o that_o have_v receive_v it_o aught_o to_o renounce_v it_o utter_o and_o to_o get_v a_o other_o outward_a baptism_n etc._n etc._n answ._n this_o also_o be_v before_o object_v and_o answer_v and_o it_o be_v a_o world_n to_o see_v how_o he_o weary_v his_o reader_n with_o repeat_v worthless_a reason_n sacrifice_v among_o the_o heathen_n i_o have_v before_o prove_v be_v god_n ordinance_n so_o be_v the_o lord_n supper_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n so_o be_v excommunication_n so_o be_v the_o ministry_n of_o bishop_n etc._n etc._n these_o have_v be_v continue_v in_o rome_n with_o their_o baptism_n may_v we_o not_o say_v therefore_o the_o mass_n be_v a_o idol_n or_o that_o the_o bishop_n the_o pope_n of_o rome_n now_o be_v a_o idol_n and_o antichrist_n of_o our_o get_v a_o other_o baptism_n which_o be_v the_o usual_a foot_n and_o base_a of_o his_o argument_n we_o have_v before_o speak_v that_o which_o he_o can_v not_o take_v away_o obj._n will_n these_o man_n say_v that_o we_o can_v without_o sin_n retain_v any_o thing_n and_o not_o utter_o reject_v it_o that_o stand_v up_o in_o the_o place_n of_o christ_n precious_a blood_n etc._n etc._n ans._n we_o can_v indeed_o without_o sin_v retain_v it_o while_o so_o it_o stand_v neither_o do_v we_o so_o reteyn_v it_o far_o be_v it_o from_o we_o neither_o may_v the_o gentile_n reteyn_fw-mi the_o lie_n which_o they_o have_v make_v of_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n rom._n 1._o 25._o but_o when_o the_o lie_n be_v do_z away_o and_o god_n restore_v to_o they_o his_o former_a truth_n that_o they_o be_v to_o reteyn_fw-mi the_o idolatrous_a israelite_n if_o they_o have_v set_v up_o their_o own_o blood_n of_o circumcision_n in_o place_n of_o christ_n blood_n may_v not_o without_o sin_v have_v retain_v it_o while_o so_o it_o stand_v yet_o repent_v of_o their_o idolatry_n they_o may_v keep_v the_o outward_a sign_n without_o repeat_v it_o even_o so_o we_o in_o this_o case_n obj._n error_n and_o abuse_n of_o man_n may_v hurt_v themselves_o but_o can_v change_v the_o nature_n of_o god_n ordinance_n in_o itself_o answ._n not_o in_o itself_o i_o grant_v consider_v without_o their_o abuse_n but_o together_o with_o their_o abuse_n god_n ordinance_n of_o sacrifice_n incense_n etc._n etc._n be_v a_o abomination_n to_o he_o prov._n 15._o 8._o esa._n 1._o 13._o so_o baptism_n and_o the_o supper_n now_o in_o rome_n be_v abomination_n to_o the_o lord_n obj._n man_n unbelief_n can_v make_v the_o faith_n of_o god_n of_o none_o effect_n god_n be_v true_a though_o every_o man_n be_v a_o liar_n rom._n 3._o 3._o 4._o ans._n what_o may_v we_o think_v will_v he_o conclude_v from_o this_o scripture_n to_o cite_v a_o place_n and_o leave_v it_o doubtful_a what_o he_o infer_v be_v to_o deceive_v the_o reader_n if_o he_o intend_v according_a to_o the_o question_n in_o hand_n that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v seal_n of_o grace_n and_o of_o salvation_n unto_o man_n whether_o they_o believe_v or_o do_v not_o believe_v it_o be_v a_o notable_a error_n overthrow_v the_o gospel_n and_o establish_v the_o popish_a heresy_n of_o grace_n ex_fw-la opere_fw-la operato_fw-la by_o the_o work_n doen._n the_o scripture_n teach_v touch_v god_n word_n and_o promise_n that_o it_o profit_v not_o they_o that_o hear_v it_o if_o it_o be_v not_o mix_v with_o faith_n in_o they_o heb._n 4._o 2._o if_o man_n believe_v not_o they_o shall_v not_o be_v establish_v esai_n 7._o 9_o but_o shall_v be_v damn_v mark_n 16._o 16._o they_o shall_v not_o see_v life_n but_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n abide_v on_o they_o joh._n 3._o 36._o neither_o be_v the_o faith_n of_o god_n by_o man_n unbeleef_n make_v without_o effect_n for_o his_o truth_n and_o faithfulness_n be_v confirm_v as_o well_o in_o damn_v unrepentant_a &_o unbelieved_a sinner_n as_o in_o save_v those_o that_o repent_v and_o believe_v when_o the_o righteous_a turn_v from_o his_o righteousness_n and_o commit_v iniquity_n he_o shall_v die_v in_o his_o iniquity_n and_o yet_o the_o way_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v equal_a as_o say_v the_o prophet_n ezek._n 18._o 24._o 25._o 26._o again_o as_o all_o man_n natural_o be_v liar_n and_o do_v fail_v and_o break_v covenant_n on_o their_o part_n by_o sin_v which_o god_n never_o do_v so_o if_o they_o continue_v in_o sin_v and_o turn_v not_o to_o the_o lord_n by_o repentance_n and_o faith_n they_o all_o perish_v luk._n 13._o 3._o 5._o rom._n 8._o 6._o 10._o 1._o cor._n 6._o 9_o 10._o judas_n v._n 5._o but_o let_v man_n repent_v and_o turn_v from_o their_o transgression_n so_o iniquity_n shall_v not_o be_v their_o ruin_n ezek._n 18._o 30._o otherweise_v it_o 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justification_n by_o circumcision_n &_o work_n of_o the_o law_n set_v these_o up_o in_o the_o place_n of_o christ_n &_o his_o precious_a blood_n etc._n etc._n shall_v we_o therefore_o say_v that_o circumcision_n be_v then_o a_o impure_a idol_n in_o their_o abuse_n etc._n etc._n or_o shall_v we_o not_o rather_o learn_v to_o put_v difference_n between_o god_n ordinance_n in_o itself_o and_o between_o man_n abuse_n thereof_o etc._n etc._n ans._n whensoever_o jew_n or_o gentile_n hold_v justification_n by_o circumcision_n sacrifice_n or_o work_n of_o the_o law_n they_o make_v their_o sacrament_n sacrifice_n and_o work_n idol_n impure_a idol_n to_o themselves_o in_o their_o abuse_n and_o it_o be_v admirable_a that_o man_n teach_v religion_n shall_v be_v ignorant_a that_o whatsoever_o creature_n or_o work_n of_o man_n be_v put_v in_o the_o place_n of_o god_n and_o christ_n it_o be_v thereby_o make_v a_o idol_n though_o god_n ordinance_n and_o the_o work_n of_o his_o law_n in_o themselves_o 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he_o will_v 〈…〉_z his_o first_o covenant_n and_o so_o receive_v they_o again_o to_o grace_n in_o christ._n unto_o which_o i_o now_o add_v this_o six_o that_o god_n call_v himself_o the_o god_n of_o jsrael_n and_o they_o his_o people_n because_o of_o many_o among_o they_o that_o be_v in_o deed_n he_o both_o such_o as_o yield_v not_o to_o jeeroboam_n idolatry_n but_o go_v to_o jerusalem_n to_o sacrifice_v 2_o chron._n 11._o 16._o and_o seven_o thousand_o in_o jsrael_n which_o bow_v not_o the_o knee_n to_o baal_n 1_o king_n 19_o 18._o and_o such_o also_o as_o err_v at_o first_o in_o simplicity_n be_v by_o the_o prophet_n bring_v to_o repentance_n though_o the_o general_a state_n of_o the_o land_n never_o repent_v but_o go_v on_o in_o their_o sin_v till_o the_o lord_n cast_v they_o out_o of_o his_o sight_n as_o be_v testify_v in_o 2_o king_n 17._o his_o 60._o next_o chief_a ground_n be_v the_o comparison_n of_o judah_n who_o likeweise_v for_o sook_v the_o lord_n and_o sometime_o become_v 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