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ratify_v their_o covenant_n make_v in_o baptism_n and_o so_o be_v confirm_v in_o their_o church_n estate_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n which_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v therefore_o reckon_v one_o of_o the_o six_o principle_n of_o the_o foundation_n of_o christian_a faith_n heb._n 6.2_o for_o it_o can_v not_o be_v a_o principle_n of_o faith_n it_o must_v be_v therefore_o a_o principle_n of_o the_o foundation_n of_o church-estate_n and_o order_n so_o mr_n cotton_n with_o much_o more_o before_o recite_v chap._n 7._o now_o let_v the_o world_n judge_n whether_o these_o man_n reading_n and_o reason_n or_o mr_n tomb_n his_o strain_a gloss_n give_v we_o rightly_o the_o meaning_n of_o heb._n 6.2_o to_o mr_n t._n his_o second_o answ_n we_o reply_v first_o that_o the_o learned_a man_n afore_o quote_v give_v we_o the_o sum_n of_o antiquity_n charitatem_fw-la antiquity_n tertul_n de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la dehinc_fw-la manus_fw-la imponitur_fw-la per_fw-la benedictionem_fw-la etc._n etc._n cyprian_n ep._n 3._o &_o 70._o nunc_fw-la quoque_fw-la apud_fw-la nos_fw-la geritur_fw-la ut_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la baptizantur_fw-la per_fw-la praepositos_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la offerantur_fw-la &_o per_fw-la nostram_fw-la orationem_fw-la &_o manus_fw-la impositionem_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la consequantur_fw-la august_n tract_n 6._o in_o joan._n epist_n nuac_n quidem_fw-la they_o loqui_fw-la linguis_fw-la quibus_fw-la imponuntur_fw-la manus_fw-la post_fw-la baptisnum_fw-la tamenrevera_fw-la accipere_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la &_o latenter_fw-la alque_fw-la invisibiliter_fw-la infundi_fw-la charitatem_fw-la that_o there_o be_v a_o imposition_n of_o hand_n upon_o believer_n child_n to_o confirm_v that_o baptism_n they_o have_v receive_v be_v infant_n upon_o the_o confession_n of_o faith_n when_o grow_v up_o and_o to_o testify_v the_o church_n receive_v they_o now_o unto_o full_a membership_n and_o complete_a fruition_n of_o all_o church_n privilege_n as_o to_o partake_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o this_o the_o text_n here_o call_v the_o doctrine_n of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n whereas_o the_o recital_n of_o the_o article_n of_o faith_n by_o those_o that_o be_v past_a infancy_n be_v child_n of_o heathen_n fit_v they_o for_o baptism_n be_v by_o the_o apostle_n precise_o and_o distinct_o from_o the_o other_o call_v the_o doctrine_n of_o baptism_n and_o be_v not_o this_o a_o proof_n sufficient_a that_o the_o common_a and_o ordinary_a imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v use_v after_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n only_o 2._o if_o mr_n t._n can_v prove_v out_o of_o antiquity_n for_o this_o text_n of_o heb._n 6.2_o have_v it_o not_o for_o he_o that_o a_o ceremony_n of_o impose_v hand_n upon_o the_o ripe_a age_v child_n of_o unbelieved_a parent_n when_o the_o say_v child_n make_v confession_n of_o their_o faith_n for_o baptisine_n creep_v into_o the_o church_n this_o do_v not_o overthrow_v other_o antiquity_n much_o less_o the_o text_n of_o scripture_n that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n that_o be_v that_o impose_v of_o hand_n belong_v to_o believer_n child_n after_o they_o have_v be_v baptize_v but_o three_o to_o answer_v mr_n tomb_n his_o quotation_n of_o tertullian_n about_o this_o de_fw-fr coronâ_fw-la militis_fw-la c._n 3._o by_o the_o leave_n of_o mr_n tomb_n that_o do_v if_o not_o scorn_v so_o score_n with_o the_o nail_n in_o his_o examen_fw-la those_o antiquity_n of_o the_o father_n we_o usual_o allege_v we_o must_v tell_v the_o world_n first_o what_o a_o piece_n and_o place_n of_o tertullian_n mr_n t._n have_v here_o allege_v viz._n such_o a_o one_o as_o wherein_o tertullian_n dispute_v for_o receive_v unwritten_a tradition_n quaeramus_fw-la a_o traditio_fw-la non_fw-la scripta_fw-la debeat_fw-la recipi_fw-la etc._n etc._n say_v he_o let_v we_o inquire_v whether_o unwritten_a tradition_n be_v not_o to_o be_v receive_v we_o shall_v deny_v it_o to_o be_v receive_v if_o it_o be_v not_o prejudge_v or_o fore_o determine_v by_o the_o example_n of_o other_o observation_n which_o without_o the_o instrument_n of_o any_o scripture_n or_o write_v by_o the_o title_n of_o tradition_n only_o we_o from_o thence_o defend_v under_o the_o patronage_n of_o custom_n moreover_o to_o begin_v with_o baptism_n when_o we_o be_v about_o to_o enter_v into_o the_o water_n even_o there_o but_o also_o too_o a_o little_a afore_o in_o the_o church_n under_o the_o hand_n of_o a_o bishop_n or_o prelate_n we_o bear_v witness_v or_o make_v serious_a protestation_n that_o we_o renounce_v the_o devil_n pomp_n and_o his_o angel_n after_o this_o we_o be_v plunge_v or_o drench_v or_o dip_v three_o time_n answer_v something_o more_o than_o the_o lord_n have_v determine_v in_o the_o gospel_n then_o be_v place_n be_v suscepti_fw-la which_o allude_v to_o godfather_n office_n jun._n note_v on_o the_o place_n undertake_v for_o we_o take_v a_o taste_n of_o the_o compound_n of_o milk_n and_o honey_n and_o from_o that_o day_n we_o abstain_v from_o wash_v in_o the_o common_a laver_n or_o place_n of_o wash_v for_o a_o whole_a week_n thus_o far_o mr_n tomb_n his_o place_n of_o tertullian_n now_o let_v the_o reader_n weigh_v all_o the_o circumstance_n of_o the_o place_n and_o judge_v whether_o turtullian_n here_o allude_v to_o any_o scripture_n authority_n or_o to_o any_o approve_a antiquity_n 2._o such_o a_o place_n of_o tertullian_n that_o do_v not_o prove_v the_o thing_n mr_n tomb_n intend_v for_o he_o well_o know_v that_o sub_fw-la manu_fw-la be_v a_o phrase_n that_o have_v so_o many_o sense_n as_o it_o be_v no_o way_n certain_a that_o here_o sub_fw-la manu_fw-la under_o the_o hand_n signify_v imposition_n of_o hand_n haply_o it_o may_v rather_o signify_v the_o minister_n lift_v up_o of_o his_o hand_n in_o prayer_n as_o pacianus_n have_v it_o we_o obtain_v say_v he_o in_o prayer_n pardon_n and_o the_o holy_a spirit_n in_o baptism_n by_o the_o mouth_n and_o hand_n of_o the_o antistes_fw-la touch_v mr_n t._n his_o quotation_n of_o chamier_n pan_n cathol_n tom_fw-mi 4._o l._n 4._o c._n 11._o sect._n 14._o we_o give_v the_o world_n this_o account_n that_o we_o have_v run_v over_o and_o that_o twice_o that_o 14_o section_n with_o as_o many_o more_o follow_v to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o chapter_n as_o make_v up_o that_o 14_o to_o be_v 59_o and_o we_o find_v but_o four_o quotation_n touch_v imposition_n of_o hand_n all_o which_o serve_v little_a to_o mr_n t._n his_o purpose_n the_o first_o be_v in_o sect._n 23._o quote_v out_o of_o areopag_n and_o be_v this_o after_o question_v and_o profession_n he_o put_v his_o hand_n upon_o his_o head_n and_o command_v he_o be_v consign_v to_o be_v enroll_v or_o number_v among_o the_o priest_n &_o after_o other_o ceremony_n put_v he_o into_o a_o certain_a garment_n and_o anoint_v he_o with_o oil_n be_v this_o supposition_n areopagite_n problem_n areopagite_n mitto_fw-la arcopagiram_n hier._n eccles_n clementem_fw-la rom._n constitut_n apostol_n ne_n libri_fw-la isti_fw-la corum_fw-la sunt_fw-la quibus_fw-la tribuuntur_fw-la vulgo_fw-la jo._n voss_n thes_n theol._n &_o hist_n see_v also_o perkins_n prepar_fw-la to_o they_o of_o the_o problem_n a_o author_n of_o credit_n and_o free_a from_o the_o ceremonious_a foolery_n here_o mention_v yet_o the_o baptism_n here_o mentìon_v be_v of_o one_o of_o ripe_a year_n at_o which_o time_n unbeliever_n child_n have_v the_o first_o seal_n to_o who_o this_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v apply_v rather_o to_o make_v he_o a_o priest_n as_o we_o conceive_v by_o the_o word_n then_o to_o accompany_v baptism_n the_o second_o be_v of_o the_o same_o hogge-sty_n leo_n the_o first_o and_o rather_o against_o mr_n tomb_n if_o any_o say_v he_o shall_v be_v baptize_v by_o a_o heretic_n he_o be_v not_o to_o iterate_v that_o sacrament_n but_o only_o that_o to_o be_v confer_v which_o be_v want_v that_o by_o episcopal_a imposition_n of_o hand_n he_o may_v obtain_v the_o virtue_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n here_o imposition_n of_o hand_n follow_v baptism_n at_o distance_n which_o be_v for_o we_o the_o three_o be_v out_o of_o cyprian_a viz._n it_o be_v to_o small_a purpose_n to_o impose_v hand_n on_o heretic_n to_o receive_v the_o holy_a spirit_n unless_o they_o receive_v the_o church_n baptism_n here_o imposition_n of_o hand_n presuppose_v precedent_a baptism_n though_o in_o man_n of_o ripe_a year_n the_o four_o be_v out_o of_o a_o false-named_n 〈◊〉_d false-named_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o a_o forge_a eusebius_n as_o chamier_n call_v he_o in_o his_o first_o decretal_a know_v you_o that_o those_o that_o have_v be_v baptize_v in_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o sacred_a trinity_n we_o receive_v or_o undertake_v for_o by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n if_o this_o fellow_n be_v of_o any_o credit_n he_o be_v for_o we_o not_o against_o we_o thus_o few_o do_v chamier_n quote_v touch_v imposition_n of_o hand_n because_o his_o design_n be_v chief_o to_o pursue_v the_o dispute_n of_o the_o other_o part_n of_o confirmation_n as_o he_o call_v it_o
shall_v not_o receive_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n as_o a_o little_a child_n shall_v not_o enter_v therein_o it_o be_v speak_v occasional_a as_o in_o a_o parenthesis_n which_o may_v be_v leave_v out_o and_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o story_n of_o blessing_n the_o little_a child_n as_o to_o who_o heaven_n do_v belong_v stand_v full_a and_o perfect_a or_o as_o that_o which_o may_v be_v put_v last_o as_o do_v last_o after_o christ_n whole_a speech_n and_o action_n to_o the_o little_a one_o and_o so_o it_o be_v put_v last_o luk._n 18.17_o speak_v by_o christ_n to_o quip_v those_o that_o keep_v off_o the_o little_a one_o from_o christ_n as_o esteem_v they_o or_o the_o motion_n of_o bring_v they_o to_o christ_n contemptible_a as_o if_o christ_n say_v to_o they_o you_o have_v need_n look_v to_o yourselves_o that_o you_o be_v so_o happy_a as_o little_a child_n etc._n etc._n by_o all_o which_o it_o appear_v that_o this_o speech_n about_o man_n be_v not_o of_o the_o body_n or_o substance_n of_o the_o solemnity_n of_o blessing_n the_o little_a one_o or_o of_o the_o doctrine_n why_o they_o shall_v be_v permit_v to_o be_v bring_v to_o christ_n but_o be_v only_o a_o circumstance_n and_o cause_n make_v to_o the_o stander_n by_o as_o for_o mat._n 18.3_o 4._o there_o be_v not_o a_o tittle_n of_o christ_n blessing_n little_a one_o but_o the_o pride_n of_o the_o disciple_n occasion_v christ_n to_o set_v a_o child_n before_o they_o for_o a_o text_n out_o of_o which_o to_o preach_v humility_n to_o they_o obj._n but_o lest_o this_o exposition_n of_o such_o that_o be_v humble_a man_n shall_v not_o stand_v firm_a but_o fall_v before_o some_o such_o reason_n as_o we_o have_v give_v mr._n t._n provide_v another_o exposition_n that_o of_o such_o must_v not_o signify_v all_o infant_n of_o believer_n but_o only_o they_o who_o he_o bless_v and_o those_o person_n who_o either_o be_v so_o bless_v or_o be_v convert_v and_o humble_a as_o little_a child_n answ_n 1._o christ_n do_v not_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o these_o but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o such_o 2_o christ_n speak_v indefinite_o who_o shall_v presume_v to_o restrain_v he_o with_o if_n and_o and_o be_v the_o apostle_n say_v act._n 2._o more_o precise_o to_o you_o be_v the_o promise_n yet_o may_v not_o we_o apply_v that_o to_o we_o when_o we_o be_v pinch_v in_o heart_n for_o sin_n be_v whatsoever_o thing_n be_v write_v afore_o as_o the_o apostle_n speak_v rom._n 15.4_o be_v write_v for_o our_o instruction_n or_o learning_n that_o we_o through_o patience_n and_o comfort_n of_o the_o scripture_n may_v have_v hope_n for_o we_o and_o we_o 3_o what_o ever_o person_n else_o this_o may_v be_v extend_v to_o by_o mr._n tomb_n that_o do_v not_o exclude_v other_o believer_n infant_n positâ_fw-la una_fw-la affiematione_fw-la etc._n etc._n one_o affirmative_a do_v not_o take_v away_o another_o for_o mr._n tomb_n his_o deny_v major_a or_o minor_a we_o leave_v the_o reader_n to_o judge_v by_o that_o which_o have_v be_v say_v those_o on_o who_o christ_n lay_v his_o hand_n must_v be_v suppose_v to_o have_v be_v baptize_v afore_o or_o if_o mr._n tomb_n can_v evince_v they_o be_v not_o contrary_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o scripture_n yet_o they_o must_v be_v as_o fit_v or_o more_o fit_a for_o baptism_n then_o imposition_n chap._n viii_o the_o argument_n from_o the_o place_n examine_v place_n eâ—cercit_fw-la sect._n 7._o the_o argument_n from_o act._n 15.16_o etc._n etc._n for_o infant_n baptism_n examine_v act._n 16.15.32.33_o act._n 18.8_o 1_o cor._n 1.16_o be_v thus_o form_v if_o the_o apostle_n baptize_v whole_a household_n than_o infant_n but_o the_o apostle_n baptize_v whole_a household_n ergo_fw-la answer_n this_o argument_n rest_v on_o a_o sleight_n conjecture_v that_o there_o be_v infant_n in_o those_o house_n and_o that_o those_o infant_n be_v baptize_v whereas_o the_o word_n of_o the_o text_n evince_v not_o these_o thing_n yea_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v say_v act._n 16.32_o he_o speak_v the_o word_n of_o the_o lord_n to_o he_o and_o to_o all_o in_o his_o house_n and_z vers_n 33._o he_o rejoice_v believe_v god_n with_o all_o his_o house_n act._n 18.8_o crispus_n believe_v the_o lord_n with_o his_o whole_a house_n do_v plain_o prove_v that_o under_o the_o name_n of_o the_o whole_a house_n be_v understand_v those_o only_a that_o hear_v the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o believe_v whence_o it_o be_v answer_v by_o deny_v the_o consequence_n of_o the_o major_a proposition_n we_o reply_v animad_fw-la reply_v animad_fw-la if_o this_o be_v but_o a_o sleight_n conjecture_v whether_o there_o be_v infant_n in_o these_o house_n why_o do_v the_o anabaptist_n proclaim_v with_o such_o confidence_n that_o for_o certain_a there_o be_v none_o and_o that_o there_o be_v for_o certain_a no_o instance_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n of_o any_o baptize_v i_o think_v they_o shall_v leave_v it_o at_o least_o uncertain_a when_o they_o say_v it_o be_v uncertain_a 2_o it_o be_v not_o so_o sleight_v a_o conjecture_n to_o all_o as_o to_z mr._n tomb_n whether_o there_o be_v child_n for_o the_o syr._n in_o the_o story_n act._n 16._o have_v it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o the_o gaoler_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o child_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o his_o house_n vid._n schindl_n de_fw-mi voce_fw-mi 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o buxt_v sure_o enough_o a_o son_n of_o eight_o day_n old_a be_v a_o son_n and_o if_o son_n of_o the_o house_n than_o some_o son_n of_o the_o father_n of_o the_o house_n what_o ever_o note_n may_v be_v put_v on_o the_o text_n different_a from_o the_o word_n in_o the_o text_n 3_o it_o be_v not_o so_o plain_o prove_v that_o under_o the_o name_n of_o the_o whole_a house_n child_n or_o infant_n be_v not_o understand_v first_o because_o when_o the_o holy_a ghost_n mention_n house_n it_o mean_v child_n too_o if_o there_o be_v no_o express_a exception_n gen._n 50.22_o for_o they_o abound_v with_o child_n exod._n 1._o so_o 1_o tim._n 3.5_o for_o there_o be_v mention_n of_o the_o child_n v._o 4._o i_o omit_v many_o other_o instance_n for_o brevity_n sake_n second_o where_o by_o house_n child_n be_v not_o include_v they_o be_v express_o exclude_v gen._n 50.7_o 8._o and_o joseph_n go_v to_o bury_v his_o father_n and_o all_o the_o house_n of_o joseph_n go_v only_o their_o little_a one_o they_o leave_v in_o goshen_n numb_a 16.32_o 33._o and_o the_o earth_n open_v her_o mouth_n and_o swallow_v they_o up_o and_o all_o their_o house_n and_o all_o the_o man_n that_o appertain_v to_o korah_n numb_a 26.11_o notwithstanding_o the_o child_n of_o korah_n die_v not_o three_o it_o be_v distinct_o say_v act._n 16.32_o that_o peter_n speak_v the_o word_n to_o the_o gaoler_n and_o to_o all_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o his_o house_n which_o be_v more_o than_o to_o all_o of_o his_o house_n the_o holy_a ghost_n make_v some_o such_o distinction_n rom._n 9.6_o they_o be_v not_o all_o israe_fw-la that_o be_v of_o israel_n 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or_o with_o john_n baptist_n practice_n who_o as_o it_o be_v say_v express_o baptize_v the_o parent_n confess_v their_o sin_n but_o do_v not_o exclude_v by_o any_o expression_n their_o child_n so_o then_o we_o must_v needs_o conclude_v that_o here_o be_v no_o determinate_v word_n in_o matth._n 28.19_o to_o exclude_v believer_n infant_n and_o that_o this_o text_n do_v but_o give_v in_o the_o two_o main_a part_n of_o the_o apostle_n commission_n but_o not_o express_o all_o the_o part_n as_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o communion_n nor_o all_o the_o main_a circumstance_n of_o those_o two_o as_o touch_v child_n baptism_n second_o we_o answer_v to_o the_o comparison_n of_o that_o place_n of_o 1_o cor._n 11.28_o with_o matt._n 28.19_o let_v a_o man_n examine_v himself_o that_o the_o 1_o cor._n 11.28_o relate_v as_o the_o apostle_n there_o express_v v._o 23._o i_o have_v receive_v of_o the_o lord_n that_o which_o i_o deliver_v i_o say_v relate_v to_o a_o express_a institution_n wherein_o 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in_o baptise_v people_n of_o ripe_a year_n de_fw-la facto_fw-la in_o fact_n confession_n of_o sin_n etc._n etc._n do_v precede_v and_o forego_v but_o neither_o john_n baptist_n nor_o the_o apostle_n make_v any_o such_o express_a rule_n that_o the_o jure_v of_o equity_n none_o shall_v be_v baptize_v by_o they_o but_o those_o that_o can_v make_v confession_n of_o sin_n or_o profession_n of_o faith_n nor_o do_v all_o the_o scripture_n bring_v by_o mr._n t._n prove_v any_o such_o rule_n mr._n t._n himself_o intimated_o confess_v that_o john_n the_o baptist_n do_v not_o make_v a_o rule_n for_o confession_n but_o only_o in_o practice_v those_o jew_n of_o ripe_a year_n that_o john_n baptist_n do_v baptize_v do_v first_o confess_v their_o sin_n and_o that_o act._n 2.39_o act._n 16._o etc._n etc._n have_v be_v already_o discuss_v that_o they_o show_v child_n be_v baptize_v who_o can_v not_o make_v confession_n or_o profession_n but_o mr._n t._n object_n act._n 8.37_o if_o thou_o believe_v 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delicta_fw-la etc._n etc._n textul_n lib._n de_fw-fr baptis_fw-la cap._n 18._o or_o mr_n t._n his_o perhaps_o a_o fine_a word_n for_o a_o argument_n and_o in_o divine_a thing_n heathenish_a lustration_n of_o little_a one_o when_o justin_n martyr_n tertullian_n etc._n etc._n apologize_v against_o heathenism_n for_o christianity_n and_o many_o of_o our_o quote_v author_n seal_v their_o opposition_n against_o heathenism_n with_o their_o blood_n and_o if_o there_o be_v any_o true_a jewish_a imitation_n of_o circumcision_n in_o infant-baptisme_n it_o be_v in_o fidus_n that_o think_v child_n may_v not_o be_v baptize_v till_o the_o eight_o day_n and_o not_o in_o cyprian_n epistle_n that_o confute_v he_o nor_o do_v they_o more_o intimate_v the_o necessity_n of_o baptism_n to_o salvation_n then_o christ_n himself_o john_n 3.5_o except_o a_o man_n he_o bear_v again_o of_o water_n and_o the_o spirit_n &c._n &c._n which_o be_v a_o place_n they_o oft_o quote_v or_o the_o apostle_n that_o say_v we_o 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hic_fw-la ergo_fw-la scelestissimi_fw-la illi_fw-la etc._n etc._n here_o those_o most_o graceless_a follow_v provoke_v question_n so_o that_o they_o say_v baptism_n be_v not_o necessary_a to_o who_o faith_n be_v sufficient_a etc._n etc._n to_o mr_n t._n 17._o exercitat_fw-la §._o 17._o his_o three_o particular_a in_o his_o minor_n that_o infant-baptisme_n be_v not_o universal_o practise_v for_o constantine_n be_v not_o baptize_v while_o a_o infant_n though_o his_o mother_n helena_n be_v a_o christian_a nor_o augustine_n though_o his_o mother_n monica_n be_v a_o christian_a etc._n etc._n we_o answer_v 1_o no_o wonder_n if_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v not_o universal_o practise_v in_o all_o age_n animadver_n animadver_n when_o so_o many_o sect_n under_o one_o notion_n or_o another_o more_o or_o less_o stick_v at_o it_o first_o arrian_n in_o one_o age_n after_o that_o the_o pelagian_o in_o another_o after_o they_o arminius_n then_o the_o anabaptist_n in_o luther_n time_n then_o the_o 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find_v three_o to_o wit_v those_o two_o also_o on_o which_o the_o thief_n be_v crucify_v on_o and_o be_v perplex_v which_o be_v christ_n a_o miracle_n of_o cure_v a_o die_a woman_n with_o that_o which_o be_v christ_n resolve_v which_o be_v his_o and_o so_o she_o lock_v up_o some_o of_o it_o in_o a_o silver_n chest_n and_o the_o rest_n be_v set_v up_o upon_o a_o pillar_n in_o the_o market_n place_n at_o constantinople_n so_o call_v of_o constantine_n for_o the_o preservation_n of_o that_o city_n as_o also_o that_o she_o find_v the_o nail_n that_o fasten_v christ_n to_o the_o cross_n she_o send_v they_o to_o her_o son_n constantine_n the_o emperor_n whereof_o he_o cause_v bit_n for_o bridle_n helmet_n and_o head-piece_n to_o be_v make_v which_o he_o wear_v in_o battle_n so_o socrate_n eccles_n you_o see_v how_o vain_a a_o story_n here_o be_v and_o that_o all_o the_o christianity_n by_o this_o appear_v in_o helena_n relate_v to_o the_o time_n of_o her_o son_n constantine_n be_v emperor_n 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year_n of_o unworthy_a communicate_v whereas_o more_o fit_o he_o may_v have_v infer_v that_o it_o show_v what_o a_o sinful_a human_a invention_n it_o be_v to_o force_v the_o wine_n of_o the_o sacrament_n into_o a_o infant_n i_o say_v let_v pass_v these_o thing_n in_o his_o 23._o ep._n let_v we_o consider_v what_o be_v allege_v out_o of_o he_o in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o merit_n and_o remission_n of_o sin_n chap._n 20._o upon_o occasion_n of_o his_o allege_v john_n 6._o to_o which_o we_o say_v 1._o that_o augustive_a do_v not_o speak_v of_o infant_n receive_v the_o communion_n as_o the_o common_a tenet_n of_o those_o time_n 2._o he_o bring_v in_o some_o dispute_v against_o he_o that_o that_o place_n of_o john_n 6.53_o do_v not_o belong_v to_o infant_n 3._o when_o augustne_v weak_o endeavour_n to_o pull_v that_o text_n to_o reach_v to_o infant_n from_o the_o verb_n plural_a unless_o yes_o shall_v eat_v and_o that_o it_o must_v belong_v to_o child_n too_o or_o else_o to_o those_o only_o who_o christ_n there_o speak_v and_o not_o to_o we_o also_o in_o follow_v age_n etc._n etc._n in_o the_o conclusion_n he_o say_v only_o this_o that_o flesh_n which_o be_v give_v or_o the_o life_n of_o the_o world_n be_v give_v for_o the_o life_n of_o little_a one_o and_o if_o they_o shall_v not_o eat_v the_o flesh_n of_o the_o son_n of_o man_n nor_o shall_v they_o have_v life_n speak_v in_o the_o future_a tense_n or_o time_n as_o for_o maldonat_v that_o popish_a calumniator_n i_o think_v it_o nor_o worth_n while_o to_o turn_v to_o he_o if_o i_o have_v he_o or_o to_o believe_v he_o if_o i_o read_v he_o if_o innocentius_n the_o 1._o bishop_n of_o rome_n so_o think_v and_o say_v its_o wonder_n there_o be_v no_o letter_n or_o epistle_n between_o he_o and_o his_o coeve_n friend_n augustine_n concern_v this_o point_n too_o and_o that_o boniface_n succeed_v innocent_a and_o be_v also_o in_o augustine_n time_n do_v not_o mind_n augustine_n of_o it_o nor_o augustine_n allege_v innocent_a to_o boniface_n in_o his_o 23._o ep._n to_o boniface_n augustine_n touch_v upon_o this_o very_a point_n and_o allege_v cyprian_n for_o it_o in_o that_o epistle_n howsoever_o if_o the_o 600._o year_n of_o that_o opinion_n and_o practice_n be_v those_o next_o before_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n thâ—n_v the_o opinion_n and_o practice_n be_v rare_a and_o private_a in_o cyprian_a and_o augustine_n time_n if_o the_o 600._o year_n must_v begin_v at_o cyprian_a you_o a_o or_o at_o augustine_n and_o his_o coeve_n innocentius_n how_o be_v it_o aver_v that_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n first_o reject_v it_o sure_o it_o be_v a_o gross_a thing_n in_o the_o opinion_n of_o all_o orthodox_n church_n that_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n must_v reform_v thus_o of_o mr_n t._n his_o proof_n that_o the_o error_n of_o infant_n cummunicate_v go_v along_o with_o infant-baptisme_n now_o according_a to_o promise_v a_o word_n of_o the_o connexion_n and_o inference_n to_o make_v it_o a_o argument_n 1._o we_o have_v prove_v infant_n baptism_n to_o be_v no_o error_n therefore_o it_o can_v beget_v a_o error_n in_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o holy_a supper_n 2._o the_o adjunct_n or_o companion_n can_v necessary_o argue_v the_o badness_n of_o the_o subject_n or_o thing_n the_o sun_n shine_v many_o man_n commit_v evil_a yet_o this_o do_v not_o prove_v the_o badness_n of_o the_o sunshine_n 3._o the_o sacrament_n be_v two_o thing_n specifical_o different_a distance_v by_o express_a rule_n that_o only_a self_n examiner_n may_v communicate_v it_o be_v not_o say_v so_o of_o baptism_n therefore_o they_o that_o give_v the_o communion_n to_o infant_n err_v for_o want_v of_o eye_n not_o for_o want_v of_o light_n distinguish_v between_o sacrament_n 4._o many_o error_n for_o many_o hundred_o of_o year_n cleave_v to_o
the_o holy_a supper_n to_o the_o disciple_n 2_o cornelius_z his_o and_o the_o gaoler_n family_n after_o the_o gather_n of_o church_n be_v not_o by_o that_o number_v to_o any_o particular_a church_n or_o thereby_o make_v particular_a church_n that_o we_o read_v now_o that_o which_o exist_v afore_o or_o after_o a_o thing_n without_o that_o thing_n can_v be_v the_o form_n of_o that_o thing_n 3_o that_o which_o be_v common_a can_v be_v proper_a and_o peculiar_a but_o baptism_n be_v common_a to_o make_v man_n only_o visible_a christian_n in_o general_n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o proper_a and_o peculiar_a to_o make_v they_o of_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a church_n and_o therefore_o though_o godly_a man_n or_o their_o infant_n have_v be_v baptize_v yet_o the_o church_n think_v according_a to_o scripture_n that_o there_o must_v be_v somewhat_o more_o express_v to_o make_v such_o to_o own_o this_o or_o that_o preach_a officer_n to_o be_v their_o pastor_n or_o teacher_n who_o they_o must_v 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their_o baptism_n basil_n epiphan_n anaceph_n p._n 408._o e_o dit_fw-mi lat._n basil_n epiphanius_n show_v we_o in_o the_o fore_n quote_v place_n that_o they_o affirm_v that_o for_o a_o man_n to_o stray_v in_o some_o great_a sin_n be_v nothing_o god_n require_v nothing_o but_o that_o he_o shall_v be_v of_o their_o faith_n augustine_n in_o his_o four_o book_n against_o the_o donatist_n complain_v and_o quote_v cyprian_a as_o condole_v the_o same_o that_o many_o cord_n in_o melius_fw-la non_fw-la mutato_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o many_o be_v not_o change_v in_o heart_n that_o renounce_v the_o world_n in_o word_n not_o in_o deed_n be_v baptize_v and_o in_o another_o place_n speak_v of_o it_o as_o a_o error_n of_o some_o in_o those_o time_n errant_a qui_fw-la pâ—aeter_fw-la delectum_fw-la omnes_fw-la ad_fw-la baptismum_fw-la admittunt_fw-la they_o err_v say_v augustine_n that_o admit_v all_o to_o baptism_n without_o any_o choice_n or_o difference_n and_o one_o of_o the_o late_a anabaptist_n in_o a_o book_n call_v the_o mark_n or_o character_n of_o the_o beast_n say_v that_o any_o man_n upon_o confession_n of_o sin_n though_o he_o manifest_v no_o sign_n of_o grace_n aught_o to_o be_v baptize_v thus_o of_o fault_n in_o discipline_n 4_o by_o anabaptism_n have_v be_v occasion_v many_o unnecessary_a dispute_n 1_o whether_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o baptize_v signify_v to_o dip_v to_o rantize_n or_o to_o sprinkle_v whereas_o they_o baptize_v in_o old_a time_n some_o in_o their_o bed_n afore_o bed_n see_v afore_o or_o couch_n clinidia_n couch_n clinidia_n therefore_o dip_v not_o they_o the_o baptism_n of_o table_n mar._n 7.4_o here_o the_o word_n can_v signify_v dip_v the_o israelite_n be_v say_v to_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o cloud_n and_o the_o red_a sea_n but_o they_o be_v but_o sprinkle_v in_o the_o cloud_n and_o not_o dip_v in_o the_o sea_n 2_o whether_o those_o baptize_v by_o man_n erroneous_a in_o judgement_n aught_o to_o be_v rebaptise_v aug._n against_o the_o donatist_n 3_o whether_o there_o be_v original_a sin_n in_o infant_n 4_o whether_o they_o have_v faith_n 5_o how_o long_o they_o must_v stay_v ere_o they_o be_v baptize_v occasion_n baptize_v of_o these_o 3_o last_o we_o hear_v afore_o several_o upon_o other_o occasion_n whether_o till_o three_o year_n old_a or_o under_o or_o till_o four_o year_n old_a or_o over_o or_o how_o long_o whether_o till_o as_o old_a as_o adeodaâ—us_n who_o be_v 15_o at_o his_o baptism_n as_o some_o will_v or_o till_o they_o be_v 30_o year_n old_a which_o be_v the_o age_n of_o christ_n as_o some_o thought_n in_o nazianzens_n time_n thus_o i_o have_v give_v you_o a_o taste_n of_o the_o manner_n of_o m._n t._n his_o dispute_v in_o those_o four_o argument_n by_o a_o easy_a retort_v they_o if_o m._n t._n condemn_v these_o our_o argument_n retort_v of_o impertinency_n or_o invalidity_n he_o must_v of_o necessity_n also_o condemn_v his_o own_o and_o for_o my_o part_n if_o he_o will_v do_v so_o i_o be_o content_v that_o these_o four_o argument_n on_o both_o side_n shall_v go_v for_o blank_a and_o so_o to_o leave_v the_o dispute_n where_o we_o find_v it_o as_o no_o great_a matter_n be_v do_v on_o either_o side_n to_o argue_v for_o or_o against_o by_o produce_v the_o error_n and_o mistake_n of_o man_n which_o may_v be_v lay_v aside_o on_o either_o side_n and_o yet_o a_o truth_n be_v hold_v by_o either_o though_o i_o do_v not_o hereby_o mean_a to_o give_v away_o the_o question_n of_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o baptise_v believer_n infant_n and_o therefore_o we_o go_v on_o to_o give_v particular_a answer_n to_o m._n t._n his_o four_o argument_n aforesaid_a chap._n xvi_o to_o m._n t._n his_o first_o particular_a 19_o exercitat_fw-la §_o 19_o of_o surety_n in_o baptism_n urge_v in_o the_o minor_a of_o his_o six_o argument_n touch_v humane_a invention_n occasion_v by_o infant_n baptism_n we_o answer_v animad_fw-la animad_fw-la 1_o that_o surety_n be_v know_v to_o have_v be_v in_o tertullia_n time_n and_o two_o hundred_o year_n after_o in_o augustine_n time_n as_o we_o have_v touch_v in_o divers_a quotation_n afore_o whence_o i_o infer_v only_o this_o that_o the_o tenet_n and_o practice_n of_o infant-baptisme_n be_v hold_v in_o ancient_a time_n 2_o that_o by_o virtue_n of_o abraham_n power_n and_o guardianship_n over_o his_o household_n all_o his_o male_a family_n have_v the_o first_o sign_n or_o seal_n as_o the_o family_n of_o cornelius_n and_o the_o gaoler_n have_v the_o governor_n believe_v and_o be_v baptize_v and_o usual_o those_o surety_n that_o bring_v child_n to_o baptism_n promise_v to_o see_v they_o bring_v up_o in_o the_o fear_n of_o god_n or_o to_o that_o effect_n whence_o i_o infer_v though_o i_o be_o not_o in_o the_o least_o for_o surety_n only_o i_o will_v have_v m._n t._n speak_v just_o of_o thing_n as_o they_o be_v that_o the_o sport_v of_o profession_n of_o faith_n which_o m._n t._n here_o abject_n be_v rather_o in_o the_o surety_n that_o perform_v not_o that_o they_o promise_v then_o in_o thing_n itself_o to_o m._n t._n his_o second_o particular_a thence_o exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la of_o episcopal_a confirmation_n we_o answer_v animad_fw-la animad_fw-la that_o we_o have_v already_o declare_v much_o of_o the_o patriarch_n imposition_n of_o hand_n of_o christ_n imposition_n of_o hand_n of_o the_o apostle_n imposition_n of_o hand_n of_o church_n imposition_n of_o hand_n since_o the_o apostle_n upon_o little_a one_o and_o usual_o after_o the_o first_o seal_n so_o that_o there_o be_v not_o so_o much_o human-invention_n in_o imposition_n of_o hand_n on_o baptize_v person_n as_o there_o be_v arrogancy_n in_o the_o bishop_n to_o assume_v this_o peculiarly_a to_o themselves_o to_o m._n t._n his_o three_o particular_a there_o that_o the_o reform_a union_n exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la by_o examination_n confession_n and_o subscription_n of_o the_o receive_a doctrine_n
be_v account_v worthy_a of_o the_o good_a thing_n they_o have_v by_o their_o baptism_n by_o that_o faith_n of_o those_o that_o bring_v they_o to_o baptism_n so_o mr._n t._n â—is_fw-la translat_fw-la and_o then_o mr._n t._n make_v these_o observation_n upon_o it_o 1_o that_o in_o those_o time_n they_o do_v not_o baptize_v infant_n upon_o mr._n marshal_n ground_n namely_o upon_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n make_v to_o they_o and_o their_o infant_n 2_o but_o they_o baptize_v they_o because_o they_o think_v the_o not-baptized_n shall_v not_o obtain_v good_a thing_n at_o the_o resurrection_n but_o the_o baptize_v shall_v 3_o that_o those_o baptize_v infant_n obtain_v those_o good_a thing_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o bringer_n what_o ever_o the_o parent_n be_v 4_o that_o therefore_o they_o baptize_v the_o child_n of_o unbeliever_n as_o well_o as_o of_o believer_n if_o they_o be_v bring_v mr._n t._n hope_v by_o this_o translation_n and_o these_o note_n to_o bring_v the_o author_n and_o his_o word_n into_o disgrace_n as_o he_o himself_o hint_n it_o to_o we_o but_o we_o answer_v in_o general_a that_o mr._n t._n have_v likewise_o quote_v author_n and_o among_o they_o even_o his_o much_o esteem_a ludovicus_n vives_z that_o have_v have_v their_o harsh_a expression_n and_o worse_o as_o before_o we_o have_v note_v 2._o the_o intent_n and_o manner_n of_o quote_v the_o quest._n to_o the_o orthodox_n be_v only_o to_o testify_v that_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v a_o know_a custom_n in_o those_o time_n in_o particular_a we_o answer_v first_o to_o his_o first_o observation_n that_o the_o say_v 56._o question_v be_v not_o urge_v by_o myself_o or_o mr._n t._n to_o prove_v baptism_n of_o infant_n upon_o the_o ground_n of_o the_o covenant_n but_o the_o question_n be_v whether_o in_o point_n of_o fact_n the_o church_n use_v ancient_o to_o baptize_v infant_n to_o that_o the_o quotation_n of_o those_o question_n name_v justin_n martyr_n be_v allege_v and_o to_o that_o it_o serve_v fit_o and_o full_o for_o he_o be_v a_o very_a ancient_a author_n in_o the_o judgement_n of_o divers_a learned_a man_n sylburgius_n think_v that_o he_o be_v a_o justin_n that_o may_v write_v about_o the_o time_n of_o theodoret._n but_o photius_n think_v that_o it_o may_v be_v justin_n martyr_n interline_v by_o some_o other_o justin_n or_o other_o after_o as_o ruffinus_n deal_v by_o origen_n as_o mr._n t._n confess_v to_o mr._n t._n second_o observation_n we_o answer_v that_o as_o we_o that_o be_v believer_n as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o answer_n to_o that_o 56._o question_v can_v applaud_v nor_o comfort_v ourselves_o in_o a_o willing_a neglect_n of_o baptise_v our_o child_n according_a to_o the_o gospel_n institution_n as_o we_o now_o stand_v to_o maintain_v so_o doubtless_o we_o be_v to_o expect_v good_a thing_n on_o god_n part_n to_o our_o child_n according_a to_o the_o intent_n of_o baptism_n we_o find_v it_o so_o on_o earth_n in_o their_o comfortable_a application_n of_o baptism_n at_o ripe_a year_n and_o why_o not_o then_o to_o believe_v the_o fruit_n of_o it_o in_o heaven_n if_o they_o die_v in_o childhood_n why_o may_v not_o baptism_n as_o well_o comfort_v the_o suppose_a justin_n martyr_n and_o we_o as_o circumcision_n do_v the_o patriarch_n concern_v their_o child_n receive_n the_o first_o seal_n this_o expression_n in_o this_o 56._o question_n and_o answer_n be_v esteem_v by_o grotius_n on_o matth._n 19.14_o who_o mr._n t._n so_o oft_o quote_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n to_o his_o three_o observation_n we_o answer_v that_o there_o be_v no_o such_o clause_n or_o intimation_n in_o the_o say_a place_n of_o the_o 56._o quest._n ad_fw-la orthodox_n as_o mr._n t._n here_o insert_v namely_o what_o ever_o the_o parent_n be_v the_o contrary_n be_v more_o probable_a the_o author_n call_v the_o bringer_n of_o the_o infant_n believer_n and_o who_o so_o likely_a to_o bring_v the_o child_n as_o the_o parent_n and_o therefore_o the_o parent_n here_o most_o probable_o be_v those_o believer_n and_o whereas_o mr._n t._n render_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d worthy_a worthy_a of_o good_a thing_n he_o may_v by_o warrant_n from_o the_o gospel_n 14._o gospel_n as_o matth._n 10.11_o inquire_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d who_o be_v fit_a or_o meet_v that_o be_v to_o receive_v you_o as_o it_o be_v expound_v in_o v._o 14._o have_v render_v it_o by_o a_o more_o orthodox_n and_o fit_a term_n viz._n meet_v or_o fit_a and_o last_o it_o be_v more_o probable_a than_o any_o thing_n mr._n t._n can_v bring_v to_o the_o contrary_a that_o the_o child_n be_v bring_v to_o baptism_n by_o their_o believe_a parent_n and_o so_o make_v meet_v for_o good_a thing_n as_o the_o fruit_n of_o it_o let_v the_o reader_n judge_n whether_o all_o this_o do_v not_o imply_v that_o respect_n here_o may_v be_v have_v to_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n as_o the_o ground_n of_o baptise_v child_n which_o mr._n t._n but_o now_o so_o peremptory_o deny_v as_o if_o it_o be_v infallible_o contrary_a to_o the_o text_n of_o the_o author_n to_o his_o four_o observation_n we_o need_v say_v no_o more_o but_o that_o mr._n t._n speak_v it_o without_o all_o warrant_n or_o such_o probability_n from_o the_o text_n of_o the_o author_n as_o there_o be_v in_o it_o to_o the_o contrary_n now_o let_v the_o world_n judge_n whether_o the_o word_n of_o the_o author_n consider_v his_o time_n be_v so_o vain_a or_o so_o impertinent_a as_o mr._n t._n will_v meek_a they_o have_v they_o be_v allege_v in_o full_a and_o beyond_o that_o the_o quotation_n extend_v to_o thus_o for_o justin_n martyr_n next_o we_o come_v to_o irenaeus_n irenaeus_n irenaeus_n who_o live_v in_o the_o same_o century_n namely_o in_o the_o next_o age_n to_o the_o apostle_n and_o not_o at_o the_o last_o end_n of_o that_o age_n neither_o for_o bucholcerus_n one_o of_o the_o most_o approve_a chronologer_n by_o usher_n put_v he_o in_o the_o year_n after_o christ_n 178._o and_o helvicus_n put_v he_o high_o namely_o in_o the_o year_n enutritus_fw-la testis_fw-la d._n h._n secum_fw-la enutritus_fw-la 170._o and_o both_o of_o they_o put_v he_o down_o as_o bishop_n at_o that_o time_n of_o lion_n say_v bucholcerus_n and_o therefore_o be_v famous_a not_o doubt_v divers_a year_n afore_o and_o a_o observer_n of_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n have_v this_o advantage_n for_o that_o purpose_n that_o he_o be_v the_o scholar_n of_o polycarp_n as_o polycarp_n be_v scholar_n or_o disciple_n to_o some_o of_o the_o apostle_n as_o divers_a chronologer_n tell_v we_o that_o which_o irenaeus_n have_v to_o our_o purpose_n in_o the_o point_n in_o hand_n be_v in_o his_o 2_o book_n 39_o chap._n about_o the_o middle_n his_o word_n be_v these_o magister_fw-la ergo_fw-la existens_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o be_v therefore_o be_v a_o teach_a master_n he_o have_v also_o the_o age_n of_o such_o a_o master_n not_o refuse_v or_o go_v beyond_o a_o man_n nor_o dissolve_v the_o law_n of_o humane_a kind_n in_o himself_o but_o sanctify_v every_o age_n by_o that_o similitude_n that_o be_v in_o he_o to_o it_o for_o he_o come_v to_o save_v all_o man_n by_o himself_o all_o i_o say_v who_o by_o he_o be_v bornagain_a unto_o or_o into_o god_n infant_n and_o little-ones_a boy_n and_o young_a man_n and_o elder_a man_n therefore_o he_o go_v through_o every_o age_n and_o be_v make_v a_o infant_n to_o infant_n sanctify_v infant_n among_o little_a one_o a_o little_a one_o sanctify_v they_o that_o have_v this_o age_n be_v also_o make_v a_o example_n to_o they_o of_o piety_n and_o justice_n or_o righteousness_n and_o subjection_n among_o young_a man_n be_v make_v a_o young_a man_n and_o sanctify_v they_o to_o the_o lord_n so_o also_o a_o elder_a to_o the_o elder_a that_o he_o may_v be_v a_o perfect_a teach_a master_n not_o only_o according_a to_o the_o exposition_n of_o truth_n but_o also_o according_a to_o age_n sanctify_v the_o elder_n be_v make_v also_o a_o example_n to_o they_o and_o then_o he_o go_v also_o unto_o death_n that_o he_o may_v be_v the_o first-born_a from_o the_o dead_a hold_v the_o primacy_n in_o all_o thing_n etc._n etc._n so_o irenaeus_n who_o we_o have_v translate_v above_o and_o beneath_o the_o place_n we_o be_v to_o use_v that_o there_o may_v be_v the_o less_o exception_n by_o any_o that_o they_o can_v not_o see_v the_o coherence_n and_o scope_n of_o the_o place_n the_o word_n we_o stand_v upon_o in_o which_o irenaeus_n intimate_v the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n in_o that_o his_o time_n next_o after_o the_o apostle_n be_v all_o i_o say_v who_o by_o he_o be_v bear_v again_o unto_o or_o into_o god_n or_o according_a to_o god_n infant_n and_o little_a one_o etc._n etc._n the_o word_n renascuntur_fw-la that_o be_v regenerate_v or_o newborn_a or_o bear_v again_o
signify_v or_o imply_v baptism_n so_o the_o scripture_n so_o irenaeus_n and_o the_o father_n mean_v by_o bornagain_a new_a bear_v or_o regenerate_v though_o mr._n t._n deny_v it_o scripture_n the_o first_o scripture_n be_v in_o joh._n 3.5_o except_o a_o man_n be_v bear_v again_o of_o water_n and_o the_o spirit_n where_o the_o spirit_n signify_v the_o inward_a work_n accompany_v or_o follow_v where_o god_n convert_v the_o outward_a sign_n seal_n and_o conveyance_n of_o baptism_n as_o we_o have_v before_o discuss_v this_o place_n where_o we_o have_v give_v you_o the_o general_a consent_n of_o orthodox_n author_n and_o some_o reason_n that_o the_o water_n of_o baptism_n be_v here_o understand_v we_o now_o add_v first_o the_o water_n of_o baptism_n must_v be_v here_o mean_v because_o of_o the_o order_n water_n be_v put_v first_o the_o spirit_n next_o now_o where_o a_o metaphorical_a epithet_n or_o word_n be_v put_v to_o set_v forth_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o spirit_n the_o spirit_n be_v put_v first_o and_o the_o metaphorical_a term_n or_o word_n after_o matth._n 3._o baptise_a with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o fire_n that_o be_v with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o be_v like_o fire_n second_o christ_n be_v speak_v to_o nicodemus_n one_o of_o the_o pharisee_n who_o do_v put_v much_o in_o outward_a legal_a and_o ceremonious_a wash_n mark_v 7.1_o 2_o etc._n etc._n therefore_o doubtless_o christ_n will_v apply_v his_o speech_n suitable_a to_o the_o condition_n of_o nicodemus_n to_o take_v he_o off_o that_o wash_n by_o propound_v to_o he_o the_o gospel_n wash_v of_o baptism_n already_o begin_v by_o john_n baptist_n on_o which_o usual_o follow_v a_o inward_a effectual_a work_n of_o wash_v by_o the_o spirit_n both_o these_o reason_n be_v hint_v by_o beza_n who_o by_o all_o mean_n will_v rather_o have_v a_o external_a wash_n here_o mean_v beside_o the_o inward_a of_o the_o spirit_n and_o prevent_v a_o objection_n that_o grace_n be_v not_o here_o tie_v to_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n the_o peculiar_a sacrament_n of_o regeneration_n say_v he_o no_o more_o than_o it_o be_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n joh._n 6.53_o beside_o say_v he_o there_o be_v mention_v after_o of_o the_o spirit_n without_o water_n three_o regeneration_n be_v attribute_v to_o the_o outward_a and_o more_o common_a mean_n of_o preach_v the_o word_n 1_o pet._n 1.23_o why_o not_o therefore_o to_o baptism_n the_o peculiar_a sacrament_n of_o regeneration_n and_o so_o nicodemus_n have_v here_o for_o the_o business_n in_o hand_n which_o be_v his_o conversion_n all_o three_o mean_n complete_o represent_v to_o he_o christ_n word_n baptism_n and_o the_o holy_a spirit_n we_o listen_v not_o to_o abound_v in_o proof_n of_o a_o thing_n so_o plain_a and_o common_o receive_v if_o one_o or_o two_o think_v otherwise_o it_o be_v not_o of_o weight_n to_o say_v so_o without_o proof_n nor_o do_v i_o know_v any_o reason_n why_o any_o shall_v dissent_v unless_o for_o a_o dream_n of_o tie_v grace_n to_o sacrament_n which_o beza_n and_o other_o excellent_o take_v off_o or_o for_o fear_n of_o man_n private_a interest_n in_o a_o argument_n which_o be_v not_o considerable_a the_o second_o scripture_n be_v tit._n 3.5_o according_a to_o his_o mercy_n he_o save_v we_o by_o the_o wash_n of_o regeneration_n and_o renew_v of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n where_o wash_v according_a to_o divers_a learned_a orthodox_n author_n signify_v or_o imply_v baptism_n the_o reason_n that_o evince_v our_o consent_n be_v 1._o that_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o wash_v signify_v not_o so_o much_o the_o act_n of_o bare_a wash_n as_o the_o place_n where_o the_o water_n be_v and_o the_o action_n be_v do_v for_o it_o signify_v a_o bath_n or_o laver_v of_o water_n and_o therefore_o can_v be_v so_o fit_o apply_v to_o the_o inward_a wash_n of_o the_o spirit_n as_o to_o outward_a baptism_n 2_o the_o spiritual_a work_n of_o the_o spirit_n follow_v in_o the_o next_o clause_n the_o make_n of_o we_o new_a 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