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A51254 Breach upon breach, or, An acknowledgement of judiciall breaches made upon us, procured by sinfull breaches found amongst us with instruction, admonition, and encouragement yet to turn to him that smites us : as the sum of it was delivered at the funerall of Mr. Jeremiah Colman, late preacher of the Gospell at Hetherset in Norfolk, February 18, 1658/9 / by Tho. Moore, Junior. Moore, Thomas, Junior. 1659 (1659) Wing M2598; ESTC R9514 106,307 114

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the Apostles that they are therein mighty through God to the opening the eyes of the blind convincing the ignorant and gainsayers of the vanity and falsenesse of other foundations in the plaine demonstration of this in the evidence and demonstration of the spirit with power and to the helping them much who through grace believe Acts 18. 24 25 27 28. 1 Cor. 14. 1 3 4 20 24 25. There is also an inferiour degree of this gift of prophecy called in Eph. 4. 11. Evangelizing included in Prephets 1 Cor. 12. 28. In which though there may be wanting some of that abillity and skill forementioned yet there is so much of that nature as may render their feete beautifull to the alluting and drawing to Christ especially on the barren Mountaines where men are not so setled on other objects or where they are in any measure taken off from finding content rest and feeding in them Yea they that have not this gift that are much wanting and short in such understanding and acquaintance with the Scriptures and such skill in the word of righteousnesse the great things of his Law contained in them as might apt them so to open the foundation and sh●w the great things of Christ by the Scriptures and therewith open the Scriptures of the Prophets by the Apostles shew things to come and thence and therewith to instruct c. as before Yet they may have some word of knowledge or of faith some feeding or teaching gift in which they may be fellow helpers to the truth by confessing his name as they have proved the goodnesse and truth of it and may be helped to expresse it by the Scriptures though not so to open interpret and give the sence of the Scriptures and shew the scope of them and instructions contained in them as others that have a more excellent gift that way Each might be profitable to themselves and others to their brethren and the world and comely and usefull in their generation were they content to keep their place and so to minister as they have received the gift and as God hath distributed to every one Every one might have joy and praise from God in a right exercise of his owne gift that God hath given him if he were not seeking to have the rejoycing use and praise of anothers gift which yet is not his owne which indeed springs from a desire of vaine glory whence those admonitions Rom. 12. 3. 1 Pet. 4. 10 11. with such vehemency urged 2. There are some appointed of God to goe before others as guides rulers elders or leaders in the Word of the Lord to whom is especially committed the peculiar service of Preaching the Crosse of Christ of witnessing repentance and remission of sins in his name and so of shewing Jesus Christ and the things of him out of the Scriptures of the Prophets and Apostles compared And therewith interpreting and opening the Scriptures giving the sence of the manifold instructions judgements encouragements reproofes exhortations c. Contained therein and contending with opposers to them also is more peculiarly committed the whole charge of ordering and managing the affaires of the Gospell in the Church and to the world-ward according to their capacity and opportunity in the severall places where they are set And these according to the instructions of the Apostles given by the one Shephard with the advice prayers and help of their brethren in the faith as they may enjoy it are to commit to others their severall charges according to their fitnesse in first and second degrees They are to commit the chiefe worke of preaching and giving the sence of the Scriptures and shewing the things of Christ out of them and contending with adversaryes for the faith unto faithfull men who shall be able to teach others also Seeing to them as they have opportunity that they teach no other doctrine instructing helping and going before them in their Ministry and seeking in a Gospell way to stop the mouths of unruly and vain talkers And to others that are faithfull though not so able nor gifted for the forementioned services as there is occasion and need they may commit the administration of the outward ordinance of Baptizeing in his Name which is mentioned by the Apostle as a lighter matter of the Law and not so peculiarly appropriated to choice instruments as also we have shewed before in 1 Cor. 1. 14-17 which likewise is signified in our Saviours committing that to his disciples before so sit to be sent forth to preach John 4. 2. And in Peters appointing that to be done by others when yet none of them but himselfe that we read of had preached the Gospell to that people Act. 10. 48. And so the testimoniall receiving in that ordinance the little children brought and presented to the Church As also some care and charge of them and of their parents that they may be kept and brought up in the Schoole of Christ and so in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. Likewise according to their capacity some care and charge of other persons adheering to the Gospell with them and so also of one another Care of their souls in faithfull admonishing warning the unruly comforting and strengthening the weake exhorting one another bearing one anothers burtherns c. as 1 Thess 5. 14 15. c. Heb. 3. Gall. 6. 1-5 6. And so care of their bodyes also in visiting the sick having inspection into the wants of the needy and some more particularly as they have capacity and opportunity to see to what is needfull to the mannagement of the affaires of the Gospell as to the entertainment of strangers and otherwise helping forward the fellow-helpers to the truth and to these purposes to be ready themselves and to provoke and stir up others to love and good workes And some to receive and distribute as necessity and opportunity calls for it the liberallity of others to the reliefe of the needy as to other the forementioned purposes And those that are appointed or in any wise set apart as by way of office to such service for all that have believed in God ought to be carefull to maintaine good workes each acording to their capacity and are so to be charged by those over them in any sence in the Word of the Lord yea to stir up and provoke one another thereto Tit. 3. 8 14 1 Thess 5. 14 15. Heb. 10. 24 and 13. 1 2. 3 John 4. 5 6. But those that are in any wise set apart by way of office to such service as the takeing any oversight of their brethren in these things and mannaging these affaires in the Church and for the good of the world They especially are to be such as are knowne to be men sound in the faith honest and of good report and in some measure full of the holy Ghost and of wisedome that the name of God be not evill spoken of but gloryfied among the Gentiles and the designe of the
they were of the first witnesses and preachers of the resurrection of Christ the Evangelists tell us and that they may as any of them is through grace sitted thereto both pray and prophecy and that in the presence of others in some assemblys of believers is clearly fignified 1 Cor. 11. 5. and in other Scriptures but the sense of the saying in both parts together is this They ought not nor is it seemly for them otherwise to speak either in praying or prophecying as the mouth of others or in propounding questions nor otherwise to act no not in the Church or any the assemblys thereof then so as therein they be under obedience and in quiet silence and subjection to the man so as in the Lord and therein to the wise and holy order and disposition of God They then are not capable of any office of rule or oversight in the Church as Elders and Deacons but to be in subjection Yea farther I suppose That in any assemblys of believers where there are men in presence fitted for speaking in prayer or prophecy or in propounding and answering questions for the edification of others it may be convenient for the women there to be silent yea a shame for them to speak unlesse in some extraordinary cases or on some particular occasione and so as desired or appointed as to the order and time of such their speaking by such brethren in presence with them or that are also over them in the word of the Lord as they may judge it needfull and convenient for the man was first formed then the woman likewise the woman was first in the transgression neverthelesse neither is the man without the woman nor the woman without the man in the Lord. But I forbear to urge my apprehensions of these things and leave what is said to correction by better judgement The women then for decency and ordersake observing such cautions as 1 Cor. 14. 33 34 35. 1 Timothy 2. 11 12. c. with 1 Cor. 11. 5 10. and so every one man or woman keeping their place and attending that place and service to which they are sitted and called The whole Church of unfeigned believers may all prophecy one by one as God hath dealt to them such a gift or exercise any other gift they have according to their severall abillity in this shift for the faith of the Gospell that all may learn and all may be comforted according as God hath dealt to every man For as there are many members in one body and all members have not the same office so we being many are one body in Christ and every one members one of another to every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ he who hath set the members in the body as it hath pleased him divides to every man severally as he will for there are diversities of gifts but the same spirit and differences of administrations but the same Lord and diverfities of operations but it 's the same God which worketh all in all but the manifestation of the spirit is given to every one to profit withall according to his measure for to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisedom to another knowledge by the same Spirit to another faith c. And so these severall gifts were set in the Church Apostles Prophets Teachers rancked under five heads Ephes 4. 11. there were also other gifts added with these to the Church to accompany the first proclamation of the Gospell to the Gentiles by the first witnesses which gifts were not so set for continuance as the former unto which they were added and therefore not mentioned among those which were given to continue in the Church till it come to its perfect state compare 1 Cor. 12. 28. with Eph. 4. 11 12 13. Now the Apostles themselves as they were appointed and chosen to peculiar service that by them the preaching might be fully known and that all the Gentiles might hear so they were not onely immediately from the Lord but also peculiarly gifted with all spirituall gifts to fit them to that service they had all the scriptures of the Prophets so opened to them and their understandings so opened and strengthened to understand them and the revelation of the mystery even of the truth of all as fulfilled come forth and manifested in Christ raised from the dead so immediately and fully given them from the Lord himselfe and were so gifted with all wisedom knowledge and utterance that they was therein perfectly accomplished and therefore sent in his name to make known the mystery as now revealed and to make it known out of the Scriptures of the Prophets according to the commandment of the everlasting God for the obedience of the faith among all Nations for his name and so as wise Master-Builders to lay the foundation for others to the end of the world to build on and so their gift as it was peculiar to them is yet left us in the fruit of it in their word and doctrine confirmed and set in the Church And so also their gift even the gift of Apostles in a secondary and inferiour sense is still found in the prime degree of the gift of Prophecy as set in the Church which therefore is mentioned as the head or chief of the best gifts now to be coveted by believers by other believers since or besides the Apostles such as believe through their word 1 Cor. 12. 31. with c● 14 1. of which gift there are degrees or diversity of measure and so of administrations and operations accordingly Whence it is expressed in that to the Ephesians under these two heads Prophets Evangelists The prime degree hath in it such an understanding of the Scriptures of the Prophets even as the Testimony of Christ witnessed by them as now manifested by the Apostles is confirmed in the heart As also such acquaintance with the Scriptures and such skill in the word of righteousnesse vide The vision of all the great things of the Law or doctrine delivered by the Prophets and Apostles and as the foundation of and key of knowledge for opening all other things namely the testimony of Jesus as in which they are furnished and apted to a plain and cleare opening the foundation as laid by the Apostles and that out of the Scriptures of the Prophets by the revelation of the mistery given by the Apostles And so to shew the things of Christ by the Scrriptures even the things already done in his owne body which the Prophets said should come to passe and the powerfull efficacy of them with the Father for men and in the name of the Father unto then Through his powerfull mediation betweene God and men as also therein to shew the things yet to come in his glorious appearing and Kingdome and with this word of righteousnesse so distinctly and convincingly to instruct teach exhort reprove c. By the Scriptures of the Prophets as opened by
bears witness against us of some great iniquities with us and of much stubborness in hiding and retaining them provoking such displeasure in such a gracious God and Saviour If he had given us over or left us in the hands of men and they had not spared nor pitied but been cruel to the utmost they could There might yet have been some room to have waved the reproof of instruction in it or to have strengthned our selves in a thought that there had been no such reproof in it to us or displeasure from God signified against us He might have ordered some light affliction to us and they might being also left to try them have added to our affliction as Zach. 1. 15. But what shall we say Himself hath done it and by himself The Lord that sees many things to provoke before he observe them against us yea though he prevents alwayes with opening the ●ar by gracious instructions in milder means yet is not quick to hear our murmurings disputings and hardning our hearts against the reproofs of instruction so graciously brought us nor is there with him any changeableness He is the same yet he the Lord. The Lord Gracious Merciful slow to Anger ready to forgive and that doth not willingly afflict or grieve the children of men even he hath made this breach upon us Who gave Jacob to the spoil and Israel to the robbers Did not the Lord Surely the Lord our Holy and Gracious One the glorious Lord would not have done it if we had not exc●edingly sinned against him and with much and long stubborness refused to walk in his ways and to be obedient to his lawes Let us then search and try our wayes and turn unto the Lord. This leads us into the n●xt instruction propounded to be considered in the Text. 3 That the reason or procuring cause of such judgments from the Lord is our own iniquities Yea that usually there is found besides the more general evils some great iniquity of neglects and disorder in Gods peculiar people yea even iniquity and pollution in their holy things as the in-let to and procuring cause of such judgments on themselves and others We shall first give some general proof and demonstration of this point by other Scriptures And then speak particularly to the evil of sin or iniquity mentioned in the text as the reason or procuring cause of the breach made upon them First For the general proof and demonstration of this point by other Scriptures See Ezek. 33. After the Proph●t hath mentioned many great and crying sins as general and national evils such as The feeding on and rejoycing in forbidden and unclean things lifting up their eyes to their idols Gods that men make to themselves which indeed are no Gods as their wisdome strength ●iches honour● confederates the like Their shedding blood Their standing leaning or depending on their sword for defence and safety Working Ambition and Vncl●anness For which he threatens to dispossess them of the land and to lay the land most desolate c. verse 25. 28. He then adds verse 30. c. Also moreover or besides these great general and national evils The children of thy people still are talking against thee by the Walls and in the doors of the houses privately murmuring and speaking evil imagining deceit and seeking how to avoid the force and prevalency of his doctrine yet speaking one to another mean while Come I pray you and hear what is the word that cometh forth from the Lord yea such they were as did sit before him as Gods people and did hear his words and with their mouth shew much love and he was to them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voice c. Yet they were not doers of his words but was stil secretly murmuring and disputing against them and the reproofs of instruction in them for their heart went after their covetousness And for these with the former God farther threatens That when this namely the forementioned judgment cometh to pass They should also know that a Prophet had been among them as may seem by the want of them He would take away such in such an evil time when they should have stood in the gap to turn away Gods wrath and been instruments of comforting strength and teaching to them in their affliction Their condition should then be such as they should not see their signes nor should there be among them a Prophet or any that knoweth How long as Psalm 74. 9. I might here mention the evils complained of Isaiah 56. which is principally their general envy at God people by whom his house is rendred a house of prayer for all people the blindness greediness profaness and enmity of their watch-men who were Ring-leaders in those crooked pathes which are declared as fore-runners and procurers of such judgments as well as their multiplied idolatries and cove●ousness compare chap. 57. with chap. 56. Likewise the oppression fraudilence violence deceit and the like spoken of Mich. 6. as fore-runners of such judgments as the taking away righteous and good men from the earth and from among men chap. 7. But to these Scriptures having spoke more fully in the fore-said lamentation I shall here add no more Yet something more we shall briefly add to what is there also hinted of that plain declaration of the cause why many among believers were weak and sickly and many slept 1 Cor. 11. 29 30 31. It was as appears by comparing the verses 28. 31. For their not so discerning considering and looking into the Lords body that was broken for them and is now through sufferings entered into his glory As to examine themselves in that glass and judge themselves thereby as discovered and reproved in the light and powet of it and so for their pride and disorders that followed on that in-let to all disorder For so much is evident from his councel let a man examine himself so let him eat as that is pressed with this motive or reason For he that eats and drinks unworthily eats and drinks Damnation present reproof and correction to himself not discerning the Lords body so much I say is evident 1 That the true way for a man rightly to examine himself is in the discerning the Lords body as declared in the glorious Gospel looking to and into that as the true glass that makes himself and all things else manifest in their right colours 2 That the want of or the wilfull neglect or shunning the so examining a mans selt in that glass the unwillingness to see and judge himself his own vileness and wretchedness the evil and shortness of his own wayes as therein discovered and reproved is that iniquity that renders him unworthy or un●eer and disorderly in his seeking and worshipping the Lord and makes him obnoxious to reproof from the Lords body the object acknowledged by him in those acts of worship and procures such corrections as followes For this cause many are
or other 3 Union of way for promoting this design working and walking together in the same work and way of the Lord speaking or doing nothing through strife or vain glory but truthing it in love so as seeking and striving to walk together in setting forth commending cleaving to and leading others unto the same one Lord and so the one faith and the one baptism that is of and by him and the glory of God as shined forth in his face unto and for all things and in teaching all things therewith Seeking I say to walk together in this way of understanding in their several gifts administrations operations c. studying and striving each of them and together in the light and strength of the Lord to speak the same thing and to be perfectly joyned together in one mind and one judgment that there be no divisions c. 1 Cor. 1. 10. and chap. 12. 6 12. with Ephes 4. 1. 15. And so 4 Union of accord and agreement such as in which all things by each one are sought to be done in charity and with the advice consent prayers and helpfulness of their brethren in the faith and patience of Jesus that they may be blessed out of the house of the Lord and grow by that which every joynt supplyeth and to that purpose the younger submitting to the elder and all of them one to another in the fear of God And so there is in it 5 An union of fellowship one wi●h another and that in personal society and companionship for fellowship in the Gospel and ordinances thereof for acquainting our selves with the joys and griefs of one another for stirring up and exhorting to love and good works not forsaking the assembling of themselvs together as the manner of some is who are sensual not retaining the spirit This of personal society with them that call on him out of a pure heart is to be prized and embraced as one of the choicest outward mercies and blessings of this life and of greatest advantage to the one thing needfull and to be striven for in all our seekings namely the faith of the Gospel and therefore the opportunities God gives for it with diligence to be apprehended and improved See Psalm 84. and 122. Acts 2. 42. 46. Hebrews 10. 23 24 25. with chapter 3. 12 13. And in communicating on with another by and diligent improving the helpfulness that we may enjoy from such persons as afore-said by that meanes when personal converse or society with them cannot be enjoyed Till I come saith the Apostle to Timothy give attention to reading c. Signisying That when the Apostle should be personally present with him it might be of more use and advantage to Timothy to apply himself to personal converse with him and to attend to what he might personally hear and receive from him But when opportunity for that is denyed the reading searching and studdy of the Scriptures of the Prophets and Apostles and so the reading and considering the writings of such as have that lap of knowledge fore-mentioned the Word of God and testimony of Jesus and searching the Scriptures of truth whether those things be so and in such wise attending to those helps to our understanding and usefulness of the Scriptures and great things of Gods love con●ained in them that we may injoy from such persons is in the next place of great advantage and usefulness to the promoting these our main affairs Onely here be we admonished by the words of the wise given forth from one Shepheard That as no man can gather Grapes of Thorns nor Figgs of Thistles so neither can we expect to reap any good fruit or advantage but loss and pollution to the corruping our minds and manners from evil communication or the communication about the things of God from evil persons or such as love not the Lord Jesus Christ nor have that lip of knowledge that word of reconciliation in their hearts or mouths or in some measure having it yet are not so subdued by it to let fall their imaginations and high thoughts of comprehending and making out those things of the testimony of God by the wisdome of man or of this World and by the words which mans wisdome teache●h not willing to become Fooles in themselves that they may have all their wisdome and strength in that evidence and demonstration of the Spirit that is in the testimony of Jesus The discourses or writings of such even of such as the last though they the best and most to be respected of the several sorts mentioned because they have in some measure the testimony of God though not subdued by it they seek to comprehend and declare it by mans wisdome or words as 1 Corinthians 1. 17. and 2. 1. 4. and 3. 18 19 20. 1 Timothy 6. 21. which makes that even such helps of either sort are little helpfull to those that through Grace have believed or to the convincing the ignorant and gain-sayers because they make it not their business nor doth their excellency lye there plainly to shew and demonstrate by the Scriptures Jesus the Christ and so other things in that demonstration of him by the Scriptures and so leave it on mens Consciences as his word and in his name But rather to shew and demonstrate those things by strength of reason or excellency of wisdome and of words which mans wisdome teacheth Compare the fore-mentioned Scriptures with Acts 18. 27 28. Those seeming helps may occasion to us much bodily exercise and such kinde of study as is a wearisomness to the flesh but the profit gained by them is but little and for a little while And if time were spared from such discourses and readings as in which chiefly the excellency of wisdome and of words is shewed in declaring and for demonstrating and making out the testimony of God we might have more to spend better and in more free and diligent attention to those helps that might be indeed helps and profitable to us But how much more are we to go from the presence of such soolish men as have not the lip of knowledge so soon as we perceive it to cease to hear the instruction that causeth to err from the words of knowledge because not onely they are in themselves polluting but also that with more diligence and earnestness we may continue together in the Apostles Doctrine and sellowship striving together for the faith of the Gospel that in nothing we may be terrified by our adversaries When the wicked did gather together in bands and were therein more powerful to do mischief to rob and rend from David he then resolves to be a companion of all those that fear the Lord and of those that in their fear or worship keep his way his precepts as of great advantage to strengthen him against the bands of the wicked Psal 119. 61 63. So in the latter dayes when there are of those many sorts of walkers who are enemies to the Cross
pans others of the Kohathites were over the Shew-Bread to prepare it every Sabbath And they had also their severall set offices and courses of singing praising and blessing in his name the Preists with Trumpets the Levites with other Instruments c. 2 Chron. 29. 25 26. each to wait on their office according to their order see 1 Chron. 6. 31 32. ch 9. 10. to the end 2 Chron. 29. 30. 31. with 1 Chron. 23. 24. to the end with chapters 24. 25. 26. totall 2 There were some appointed chief heads who were of the chief of the house of their Fathers that had the oversight of these severall offices and imployments who had themselves also some speciall service in them and were to look to the management of the rest as appeares in the verses before the text There were some chief of the house of their Fathers to oversee the whole charge and service of bearing the Ark and Vessels of the Lord c. So also we read of four chief Porters that had their set office and the oversight of the whole charge upon them who were therefore lodged round about the house as more devoted to the looking to and management of those affaires Likewise we read of chief heads of their Fathers appointed to be singers and of severall orders and courses of first and second degrees appointed by them 1 Chron. 6. 33 c. and 9. 33 34. c. and 15 16 17 18 19. c. see also Chapters 24. 25. 26. 3 The Preists the sons of Aaron and especially the High-Preist had the whole charge and over-fight of the whole Tribe of Levie and of their severall offices and service about the House of God and holy things when the Tabernacle with the Ark and Vessels of the Ministery were to be carried from place to place They were to appoint the severall services and burdens to the Levites and to cover the holy things committed to the Kohathites charge nor might the Kohathites look into touch or alter them least they dye and so to appoint and order all the other service of the Tabernacle of the Congregation And when they had rest still they were to appoint order and oversee the management of the whole businesse according to the Word of the Lord by Moses And to offer up and consecrate the Levites to their service and to offer the Burnt Offerings and the Bread of their God to make and keep the charge of the Oyle for the Lights and the Oyntments of Spices for anointing c. As in the severall Scriptures fore-mentioned may be seen and none of the Levites no not the heads or the chiefe of the heads of them to presume to doe any thing otherwise then according to and so as under their order For they the whole Tribe as they were devoted to the Lord so were given as a gift to Aaron and his Sons to minister unto them as in the fore-cited Scriptures may be seen Answerable to this their tipicall order There is an order to be observed by the holy Priesthood now in the service of the true Tabernacle and Sanctuary which the Lord hath pitched and not man And in their bearing the vessels of the Lord and Ministration about holy things in it As. 1 The whle company of them that call on him in truth being so sanctifyed by God the Father and preserved in Jesus Christ are therein prepared and made meete for this inheritance and called to this service to strive together for the faith of the Gospell to stand before him as an holy Priesthood to offer up spirituall sacrifices and to shine as lights in the world holding forth the word of life as hath beene shewed before but each according to their severall Abillities and Capacities by the grace given and gracious gifts bestowed and distributed to every man yet with this cautionary provisoe the women are not permitted to speak in every place not in the publick or generall assemblies of the Church where there are or may be not onely many daughters and attenders who are in some degree of simplicity waighting though yet they have received little But also many faighned as well as many halting believers and likewise many ignorant and some wilfull opposers comming in among them Nor is it seemly for them in any assemblys of believers so to speak or act as to usurp authority over the man and so not otherwise then so as they may be therein under obedience as that 1 Corinthians 14. 34. without the Translators addition is thus read It is not or hath not been permitted unto them to speak but to be under obedience c. in which saying as so read are two parts in such conjunction and the former so depending on the latter that it cannot stand without it and so this appears in the summe and scope of the saying That it is not permitted to them otherwise to speak then so as they be therein under obedience for so we find the like phrase or manner of speech in other Scriptures and in other cases carrying a like sense as John 5. 22. The Father judgeth no man but hath committed all judgement to the Son Now that the Father doth now judge men and that without respect of persons is plainly expressed in other Scriptures 1 Peter 1. 17. John 12. 48. with 1 Cor. 11. 32. Therefore the first part of that saying cannot stand alone or without the second yea our Saviour saith in that same Chapter John 5. 19. that The Son can do nothing of himselfe but what he seeth the Father do So that the sense of the saying fore-mentioned appears to be this That the Father judgeth no man immediatly or otherwise then so as by committing all judgement to the Son and so judging and executing judgement by him like to which is that 1 John 2. 27. Ye need not that any man teach you but as the same anointing teacheth c. Now that they all needed the helpfulnesse and teaching of their fellow-members and brethren and that all believers do so while they are here in this present world is evident enough in the same Chapter verses 1. 12. 15-24 28. and in other Scriptures 1 Cor. 12. 21. c. Ephes 7. 12 13. c. But the sense is clear they need not that any man teach them but as that teacheth or otherwise then as that teacheth they need not any mans teaching that teacheth otherwise as 1 Timothy 6. 3. 5. So here it is not permitted into the Women to speak but to be under obedience that the first part of this cannot stand alone or without the second is evident in the Scripture for they especially the elder women are exhorted and instructed so to speak as to be teachers of good things Tit. 2. 3 4. yea women are commended for labouring with Paul in the Gospell Phil. 4. 3. and that a woman expounded unto Apollo The way of the Lord more perfectly we read Acts 18. 26. yea that