writinge and certaine by Tradition with whom agreeth S. Basill saying (5) Basil de Spir. Sanct. cap. 27. some thing we haue from scripture other things from the Apostles Tradition c. both which hath like force vnto Christian Religion Mr. D. Rainoldes answering to these foresaid sayings of Basill and Chrisostome saith (6) D. Rainoldes in his Conclusions annexed to his conference the 1. conclusion pag. 689. I take not vpon me to controule them but let the Church Iudge if they considered with aduice enough c. Whereunto might be added the like confessed (7) Where Eusebius l. 1 demonstr Euang. c. 8 is obiected to say that the Apostles published their doctrine Partly by writing partly without writing as it were by a certaine vnwritten law Mr. Whittaker de sacra scriptura pag. 668 fine saith therto I answere that this testimonie is plaine enough but in no sorte to be receaued because it is against the Scriptures testimonie from Eusebius And thus much breifly concerning the Fathers of the Greeke Church Now as concerning the like confessed Doctrine in the Fathers of the LATTIN Church to avoide tediousnes S. Austine only as being most (*) Gomarus in speculo verae ecclesiae c. pag. 96 ante mediu saith Augustinus Patrum omnium communi sententia purissimus habetur approued by our aduersaries shall serue for all who labouring to proue that those who are Baptized by heretickes shoulde not be Rebaptized saith (8) Aug. de Bap. contra Don. l. 5. c. 23 the Apostles commaunded nothinge hereof but that custome which was opposed herein against Ciprian is to be beleeued to proceede from their Tradition as many things be which the wholle Church houldeth and are therefore well beleeued to be commaunded of the Apostles although they bee not written Wherein and (9) See the like saying in Austine epist 118 ad Ianuarium other his like sayings his meaning is so euident and confessed that Mr. Carthwright speaking thereof sayth (10) See Mr. Carthwrite in mr Whitgifts defence c. p. 103 ante med to allowe St. Austines saying is to bringâ— in Poperie againe and that (11) See Mr. Carthwrites wordes alleaged vbi supra if S. Austines Iudgement be a good Iudgment then there be some things commaunded of God which are not in the scriptures and there-upon no sufficient Doctrine conteined in the scriptures Add but now hereunto that (12) See Chemnitius examen part 1. pag. 87. 89 90. Chemnitius reporteth for their like testimonie of vnwritten Traditions Clemens Alexandrinus Origen Epiphanius Ambrose Hierome Maximus Theophilus Basill Damascene c. That M. Fulke (13) See mr Fulke against Purgatory pa. 362 ante med 303 397 and against Martiall pag. 170. 178. and against Bristowes motiues p. 35 36. also confesseth as much of Chrisostomâ— Tertulian Ciprian Augustine Hierome c. that lastly Mr. Whitaker (14) See master Whitaker de sacra scriptura pag. 678. 681. 683. 685. 690. 695. 696. 670 668. acknowledgeth the like of Chrisostome Epiphanius Tertulian Ciprian Augustine Innocentius Leo Basill Eusebius Damascene c. Now as concerning Ceremonies Mr. Calfehill to omitte others affirmeth that (15) Hereof see Mr. Fulkes reioinder to Martialls Replie printed 1580. pa. 131 fine 132 initio the Fathers declined all from the simplicitie of the Gospell in ceremonies 13 Thirtenthly it is confessed yet further in generall concerning Dionisius Artopagitta and Hermes who are houlden most auncient Apostolike (¶) Of Dionisius mention is made act 17 34. and of Hermes rom 16 14. namely that Dionisius in his fore-saide writinges which were aboue a thousand yeares since as D. Humfrie (â‹) Humfreid in Iesuitismi part 2. rat 5 pag. 513 fine 514 initio saith Hunc Arcopagitam Suidas Michaell Singelus Gregorius Turonensis alij Pauli auditorem credunt fuisse illum scriptorem caelestis et ecclesiasticae Hierarchiae And see before Sect 3. n. 4. lit .o. confesseth publickely extant and alleadged vnder his name doth casually and obiter amonge other thinges make mention ouer and besides the foresaide Doctrine of praier for the dead (t) Hamelmanus de traditionibus apostolicis col 707 line 27 col 736 line 56 and master Whitaker de sacra scriptura pag. 655 ante med of Apostolicke vnwritten Traditions of (u) Hamelmanus vbi supra col 707. l. 4 col 732 l. 51 Chrisme (x) Hamelmanus vbi supra col 707. l. 49 col 743 l. 4 Consecration of Moncks (y) Humfreid in Iesuitismi par 2 pag. 519 circamed â—nd Luther tom 2 Witeberg Anno 1562 de captiu Babil fol. 84. b. ante med Sixe of our Sacraments that the booke of Hermes entituled Pastor affordeth in like manner testimonie or grounde worke of (z) Abraham Scultetus in medulla theolog c. pag. 467 post med freewill and monasticall solitude of (a) Hamelmanus de trad apost col 252 fine col 253 initio col 254 line 38 and Abraham Scultetus vbi supra pag. 467 post med Puâ—gatorie and praier for the dead of (b) Hamelmanus vbi supra col 253 l. 54 col 254 l. 49 Merite and Iustification of workes of Professed Chastitie (c) Hamelmanus vbi supra col 251 line 48 col 254 l. 30 in ministers of (d) Hamelmanus vbi supra col 254 l. 36 Fasting from certaine meates of (e) ibidem col 253 line 46 the Innocent parties remainnig vnmaried in case of adultrie of (f) Chemnitius examen concil Trident. part pag. 127 a prope finem workes of superogation and of (g) Hamelmanus vbi supra col 254 l. 53 saith Furtigitur bonum papismi initium impurus ille liber pastoris vel Heremitis Poperie And though in the primatiue Church some question (h) Vide Eusebium hist l. 3 â— 3 prope finem was made of this booke as whether it were Canonicall scripture or not many Fathers (i) It was thought to be sacred and for such alleaged by Origen lib. 10 in epist ad Rom. Tertulian l. de oratione Clemens Alex. l. 6 stromat Athanasius in libro de decretis Nicen Synod Cassianus collat 13. c. 12 and by Ireneus l. 4 c. 37. thinking that it was yet is it confessed to haue ben receaued at the least for (k) Hamelmanus vbi supra col 254 line 24 saith illum pro ecclesiastico habuerunt quidem Patrâ—s and col 730 line 25 he saith Hermetis libellus qui dicitur Pastor est olim aliquando in numerum ecclesiasticorum librorum relatus In so much as Eusebius hist l. 3 c. 3. Ruffinus in Simbolum Hierom in catul do commeÌ„d this booke for profitable and so Mr. Whitaker de sacra scriptura p. 93 fine confesseth of Hierome Ecclesiasticall and the authoritie thereof to haue bene so many ages since specially alleadged (l) Hamelmanus vbi supra col 253 line 10 saith
of the whole time since the Apostles to this present that (¶) See Mr. Bunny in his treatise tending to pacificatioÌ„ Sect 14. circa med pa. 89. the Church of Rome hath euer continued after a sorte in the profession of the faith since the time that by the Apostles it was deliuered to them c. and hath also in some manner preserued and hitherto maintained both the word and the sacraments that Christ himselfe did leaue vnto vs which surely saith he is a very speciall blessing of God an euident worke of the holy Ghost c. And thus much briefly whether that the Romane Church professing the right faith in the Apostles times hath at any time since euer altred or changed the same against our foresaid discourse wherof grounded vpon seuerall truthes confessed euen by our aduersaries if any boulder forehead shal wilfully oppose it selfe shall without other answere or respecte had to that which his learned brethren haue heretofore coÌ„fessed and we otherwise proued leape ouer al the foresaide proofes and ages iumping per saltum vp to the Apostles then tell vs (*) So Mr. Whitaker l 7 Contra Duraeum pa. 478 ante medium saith Nobis sufficit ex PontificioruÌ„ dogmatuÌ„ scripturarum collatione discrimen dissimilità dineÌ„â—gnoscere historicis liberum relinquimus scribere quid vâ— lint that howsoeuer we proue from histories Fathers or other testimonie of their owne writers concerning euery of the ages since the Apostles times yet the scriptures theÌ„selues are in his (¶) Hereof see hereafter Tract 2. c. 1. Sect. 1. initio in the margent at the letter p. and 〈◊〉 q. opinion contrary in many points to that faith which the Romane Church now professeth and that therein therefore she hath changed the faith which was first to her deliuered Besides that this is a most needie and miserable begging of the thing in question against which we doe vehemently contest as being more then perswaded that our aduersaries cannot truely alleage from the first of Genesis to the last of the Reuelations so much as any one texte of scripture which maketh with them and against vs. Let that man all other of his minde yet also further consider that for so much as the sacred SCRIPTVRES them selues do as before (t) See heretofore Tract 1. Sect. 8. l. n. o. and hereafter Tract 2. c. 2. Sect 1. prope initium affirme that the Churches true Pastours must euermore continew and withstand all innouation of false doctrine euen with open reprehension The answerable performance wherof in perticuler being matter of fact can be to vs at this day no otherwise made knowen then vpon the onely credite of humane testimonie commended to vs by historie (u) Mr. Whitaker Contra Duraeum l. 7. page 472. saith Quicquid de Ecclesiae Propagatione Amplitudine gloria veteres Prophetae predixerunt id perfectum esse historia Luculentissime testatur ita vatic inijs Prophetarum Ecclesiasticam historiaÌ„ suffragari nulla controuersia est the force of which testimonie our very aduersaries acknowledge (*) Mr. Hooker in his Ecclesiastical Policie l. 2. p. 115. initio saith The strength of mans authoritie is affirmatiuely such that the weightest affaires in the world depend there-vpon And ibidem pag. 116. ante medium VVhatso-euer we beleeue concerning saluation by Christ although the scripture be therin the grounde of our beleefe yet is mans authoritie the keye that openeth the dore c. The scripture coulde not teach vs these thinges vnlesse wee beleeued men c And ibidem l. 1. page 86. ante medium Of thinges necessarie the very cheefest is to knowe what bookes we are bound to esteeme holy which point is confessed impossible for the scripture it selfe to teach And l. 2. Sect. 4. page 102. fine for if any one booke of scripture did giue testimonie to all yet still that scripture which giueth credit to the rest would require an other scripture to giue credit vnto it neither coulde we euer come to any pause whereon to rest our assurance vnlesse besides scripture there were some thinge which might assure vs. c. vpon which ground l. 3. Sect. 8. page 146. fine he saith VVe all knowe that the first out-ward motiue leading men so to esteeme of the scripture is the authority of Gods Church And Mr. Whitaker aduersus Stapletonum l. 2. c. 4. page 298. post med saith non nego traditionem Ecclesiasticam esse argumentum quo argui conuinci possit qui libri sunt canonici qui non And ibidem page 300. ante medium Hoc semper dixi sensique vide ibidem l. 1. page 25. ante medium And in his booke against Mr. VVilliam Rainoldes page 44. circa med In so much as the Protestant author of the treatise of the scripture and the Church so greatelie commended by Bullinger in his preface before that booke doth after the Englishe translation thereof cap. 15 page 72 say we coulde not beleeue the ghospell were it not that the Church taught vs and witnessed that this Doctrine was deliuered by the Apostles And see further there cap. 19. page 74. 75. that there-fore the same SCRIPTVRES do therein most euidently perforce reduce them to this foresaid triall by historie and Fathers whereto if they stand their ouerthrow they see is certaine and in refusing the same their flight is shamefull As for the further extremest bouldnes of such who are in these straites resolued not to acknowledge the (â‹) Iohannes Regius in libro apologetico c. page 192. post medium and 193. being vrged to shew wherein the Romane Church changed her faith and not able to giue any one perticuler example thereof betaketh him-selfe to this extreemest bouldnes answering page 193. post medium Sed denique licet verum esset Romanam Ecclesiam in sua religione nihil mutasse an propterea mox sequetur eam esse veram Ecclesiam Non opinor In defence whereof he is not ashamed to alleadge sondry impertinent reasons vnworthy of rehersall Romane Church to be a true Church though it were true that she had not changed any thing in religion We passe the same ouer as being most absurde and much more worthy of contempt then answere THE SECOND TRACT FIRST CHAPTER SECT 1. THAT CHRISTS CHVRCH VVAS BY the Predictions of the Prophets foretolde to become vniuersall and to conuert with great increase the Kinges and Nations of the Gentiles AND for so much most GRATIOVS SOVERAIGNE as it hath bin the course of certaine our aduersaries vnder the pretence of onely scripture to vnder take libertie of reiecting all our former confessed proofes drawen from the authoritie of Mirâ—cles though neuer so true of Fathers though neuer so auncient and so thereby in the end making them selues and euery of their vulgar followers Iudges (p) Luberius in libro de principijs christian dogm l. 6. c. 13. page 563. antâ— med saith Omnes publicos Iudices vt interpretando
for which he citeth many scriptures 3. Thirdly our aduersaries do yet further confesse and the nature of the thing proueth it for otherwise they were no true Pastors that these Churches Pastors at the least some of them shall (p) Mr. Fulke in his answere to a â—ounterfaite Catholicke page 11 initio 92 ante med alwaies resist all false opinion euen with open reprehension and that (q) Mr. Deering vbi supra in c. 2. vers 12. lect 10 circa med c. 3 lect 12. fine the religion beiâ—g of God no feare of man shall keepe them backe because as Mr. Deering saith hereof (r) mr Deering ibid. that were to keepe the honour of God for corners and sol tary places for as the Apostle prescribeth (*) Rom. 10 10. with thâ— harte a man beleeueth vnto righteousnes and with the mouth confesseth to saluation Concerning now the continued administration of SacrameÌ„ts 1. First the scriptures affirme that we are therby to (s) 1. Cor. 11 26. shew the Lords death till he come 2. Secondly our puritane aduersaries do acknowledge and accordingly teach that there must be (t) Beza in his sermons vpon the Canticles englished page 79. 80. Pastors and Doctors to the end of the world for the administration of the Word and Sacraments that therfore (v) Mr. Bancroft in the suruey of the holy pretended discipline page 440 post medium the ministrie of the Worde and Sacraments are in absolute degree of necessitie to saluation with whom our other Protestant aduersaries do agree Mr. Whitaker saying to this end of the administration of the Word and Sacraments that (x) Mr. Whitaker contra Duraeum l. 3. pag. 249 ante med saith Sâ— adsunt Ecclesiam constituunt tollunt si auferantur being present they do constitute a Church and being absent doe subuert it and Mr. D. Wilâ—et likewise saith of them (y) Mr. Willet in his synopsis page 71 fine these markes cannot be absâ—nt from the Church and it is no longer a true Church then it hath these markes for as he further saith (z) Mr. Willet vbi supra page 69 finc the onely absence of them doth make a nulletie of the Church with whom herein the Lutheranes also (a) Lobechius a Lutherane Doctor and publique Professor in the vniuersitie of Rostoche in disput theologic pag. 213. sect 44. affirmeth of these and of the Church that tam areto indistolubili nexu inter se copulata sunt vt in coetu vocatorum alterum sine altero esse non possit negato vno alterum quoque negare necesse sit do agree 3. Thirdly our aduersaries do yet further hereupon affirme of these that (b) Mr Whitaker contra Duraeum l. 3. page 260. saith Sunt Ecclesiae proprietates essentiales And see mr Whitgifte in his defence c. page 81. ante med and see mr D. Couell in his examination c. page 21. ante med page 5. fine they are essentiall notes of the Church and that (c) Hiperius in method theolog page 548 ante med page 532. prope finem And Amandus Polâ—nus in partition theolog page 304. ante med these notes are needfull to distinguish the true Church from the false that men carefull of their saluation may know where the true Church is and to which company cheifly thâ—y ought to adioyne them selues And thâ—t therefore the Church militant is in some sorte euermore to remaine not poore or slender in paucetie of professors but rich and plentifull (*) Caelius secundus Curio writt a wholle booke hereof entituled de amplitudine regni Dei wherein read him lib. 1. page 1. 5. 14. 24. l. 2. page 135. 148 167 183 232 233 243 246. c. And he answereth the common obiections vrged to the contrarie l. 1 page 96. 97 100 106 108 115 117 120 128 131. neither obscure or latent but like to (¶) Math. 5 15. Esa 2 2. Concerning the answerable exposition of which textes see D. Humfrey hereafter page 84. in the margent vnder the letter e. And S. Austin tom 6. contra faustuÌ„ Manich. l. 13. c. 13. saith Propter hos enim motus paruuloâ—um qui possint seduci ab hominibus a manifestatione claritatis Ecclesiae Dominus quoque prouidens ait non potest Ciuitas abscondi supra monteÌ„ constituta And tom 7. contra liter Petil. l. 2. c. 32. he further saith Hinc fit vt Ecclesia vera neminem lateat vnde est illud quod in Euangelio ipse dicit non potest Ciuitas abscondi supra montem constituta ideoque in eodem psalmo connectitur In sole posuit tabernaculum suum id est in manifestatione a Citie placed vpon a hill that cannot be hid knowen and (d) Bartholomeus Keckermanus in sistem theolog page 408. initio saith Noui testam Ecclesiae ratione notarum formae externae semper debet esse sensibilis seu conspicua vt nimirum reliquae gentes quae adhuc extra Ecclesiam sunt scire possint cuinam Ecclesiae sese debeant agregare id quod de ecclesia noui testam Esa c. 61. ab initio magnificis verbis predixit And Hiperius in method theolog page 552. prope finem saith Profectò nisi signa haec extarent ac vera ecclesia sensibus deprehenderetur qui scire possit homo cumam caetui salutis consequendae ergô adherendum sioi foret And Peter Marter in his epistâ—es annexed to his common places in English page 153. a. circa medium reporting certaine pointes wherein he professeth to agree with vs Catholickes saith We also doe not appoint an inuisible Church but doe define Congregations vnto which the faithfull may know that they may safely adioyne them selues affirming further a little there before that this opinion is saieth he Common with vs to Catholickes conspicuouse a truth so euident that they doubt not thereupon to affirme and teach out of the scriptures (e) Mr. Henoch Clapham in his soueraigne remedie against schisme p. 18. after many proofes alleaged by him from the scriptures and otherwise concludeth saying Not onely all auncientes euer holde the Churches euer visibilitie but also all learned men of our age In like full maner is the Churches visibilitie affirmed from the scriptures as well by Melancthon in loc comun edit 1561. c. de Ecclesia in prefat lib. corp doctrinae Christianae in Ecclesijs Saxon. mismicis electoris Saxon. impress Lipsiae Anno 1561. And in Concil theolog part 1. page 512. part 2. pag. 201. 394. As also by D. Humfrey in Iesuitismi part 2. rat 3. page 240. where he saith Declaratum est nos Ecclesiam non in aere ollocare sed in terra nos Ecclesiam confiteri esse opidum supra montem positum quod abscondi non pâ—test Math. 5. montem excelsum domus Dei cunctis collibus editiorem ad quem omnes gentes confluent Esa 2.
quosdam pontificios trucidarunt denique multa designarunt quae Hussus si in viuis adhuc fuâ—sset minime approbasset c. rebellion against their Soueraigne with the vnfitting title of (r) act mon. pag. 258. a. initio the ghospells increase THAT THOVGH VVALDO WICLIFFE and Husse had bene Protestantes yet theire examples are insufficient in this case SECT 6. HITHERTO we haue proceeded that neither Waldo Wicliffe nor Husse were of the Protestants Church and that therefore theire examples are impertinently alledged onely now we will suppose for the time that they had bene all of them full Protestants in opinion and withall yet appeall to your MAIESTIES learned iudgmeÌ„t whether their foâ—esaide examples be not altogether insufficient to proue a continuance of their Churches administration of the Word and Sacraments but so much as for those only times in which they liued and that for two speciall important reasons As 1 First in that neither they all nor so much as any one of them were before their first appearing members and professors of the said supposed Protestants Church and faith but were as appeareth by the premisses all of them originally professed and knowne Catholikes as in like maner were Arius Macedonius Nestorius Pelagius Eutiches and the other ould Sectmasters before their times who all being first Catholickes through Innouation afterwardes and noueltie of opinion (s) 1. Iohn 2 19. act 15 24. went out from vs the very brand or character wherwith the holy scriptures Protestants (t) Mr. Alison in his confutatioÌ„ of Brownism pag. 1. initio them selues doe note false teachers And therfore the foresaid example of Waldo Wicliffe and Hâ—sse who before their first appearing were Catholickes supposing they were afterwardes Protestants proueth in steed of continuance rather a manifest defection and not being of their Churches administration of the Word Sacraments at and imediately before the first begining of euery of them 2 Secondly as Luther saith (v) Luther vpon the epistle to the Galathianes englished in c. 1. fol. 10. b ante medium It is not enough for a man to haue the word and puritie of doctrine but al o he must be assured of his calling and he that entreth without this certainely entreth to no other end but to kill c. to which purpose the scripture saith (2) Rom. 10 15. How shall they preach except they be sent (3) Hebr. 5 4 No man taketh to him the honour of Priesâ—hood but he that is called of God as Aaron was (4) Iohn 10 1 Who so entereth not by the dore into the sheepfolde but climeth an other way is a theefe And for so much as the refuge of pretended extraordinary calling hath bene heretofore (x) See heretofore tract 2. c. 2. sect 3 in the margent there at the letter z. and in the margent at the letter a. sufficiently discouered and reiected by learned Protestants Lutheranes and Puritanes the Churches ordinarie calling by man being as the auncient Fathers (*) Ciprian l. de simplicitate Prelatorum condemneth such as want the Churâ—hes calling saying Iâ— sunt qui se vltio apud temerarios conuenas sine diuina dispositione praesiciunt qui se praepositos sine vlla ordinationis lege constituunt qui nemine episcopatum dante Episcopi nomen sibi assumunt And Ciprian l. 1. ep 6. ad Magnum sayeth of Nouatianus Nouatianus in Ecclesia non est nec Episcopus computari potest qui Euangelica Apostolica traditione contempta nemini succedens a seipso ordinatus est habere namque aut tenere Ecclesiam nullo modo potest qui ordinatus in ecclesia non est and a litle afterwardes nemini succedens a seipso incipiens alienus fit prophanus Vpon this ground Tertulian in libro de prescrip vrgeth the Hereticks of his time saying Edant origines ecclesiarum suarum euoluant ordinem Episcoporum suoruÌ„ ita per successionem c. And Optatus l. 2. contra Parmen vrgeth in like maner the Donatisies saying Vestrae Cathedrae vos originem ostendite qui vobis vultis sanctam ecclesiam vindicare mistus est Victor ex Africa Romam erat ibi filius sine patre sequens sine Antecedente And St. Austine ex quaest in nouo vet Test quest 100. saith of Heretickes Ordinem ab Apostolo Petro caeptum vsque hoc tempus per traducem succedentium Episcoporum seruatum perturbant ordinem sibi sine origine vendicantes c. and them selues (y) Luther vpon the epistle to the Galathianes fol. 10. a. circa med saith God calleth vs at this day to the ministerie of his word not imediately him selfe but by man And Piscator volum 1 thesium theolog pag. 405. circa med saith Post tempora autem Apostolorum vocauit adhuc vocat ad finem vsque mundi vocaturus est Pastores Doctores Presbiteros per Ecclesiam c. And see D. Couel in his defence of Mr. Hooker page 86. fine 87. initio and in his examination c. page 131. fine 106 initio do yet further confesse the established course of the new Testament without which no man may vndertake the publique charge and administration of the word and sacraments To which end the now Lord Bishop of Winchester affirmeth that (z) Mr. Bilson in his perpetuall gouernment of Christs Church c. 9. pag. 111. ante medium the moderation of the keies and imposition of handes were at first setled in the Apostles and that they can haue no part of Apostolike Comission that haue no shew of Apostolicke succession c. and therfore that (a) Ibid. page 111 post med and see the like in Mr. D. Couel in his examination page 97. circa med 106 initio Pastors do receaue by succession the power and charge of the Word and Sacraments from and in the first Apostles against all which the vulgar obiections which some precisians vrge contrarie to scriptures and so many of their owne writers of (b) Obiected by master Fulke against the Rhemish Testament in Rom. c. 10 fol. 255. a. paulo post me Aedesius and Frumentius two lay persons Conuerting a great nation of the Indianes and of a captiue woman conuerting the nation of the Iberianes and grossely mistaken (c) Mistaken and impertinent for though it be reported that Aedesius and Frumentius did by priuate exhortation perswade the people of that Nation to the Christian faith a thing which Laye persons may do yet is there no mention that either of them did vndertake the administration of the Word and Sacraments vntill such time as Frumentius went to Alexandria to Athanasius who gaue to him the holy function of a Bishop Theodoret after Christofersons translation hist l. 1. c. 23. wherewith he returned to the said nation and so proceeded to their conuersion In like maner it is not said that the captiue woman did vndertake the administration of the word and sacraments but
Romano Pontifice cap. 29. vesus finem it is lawfuâ—l to resist the Pope invading the bodie or troubling the common wealth it is lawfull I say saith he to resist him by no doing that which he commaunâ—eth and by letting or hindring him that hee execute not his will wherevnto might be added as well the late (4) See this at large in the civill warres of France in English collected by Anthony Collâ—net from An. 1585. till 1591. printed at London 1591. lib. 7. 8. examples yet fresh in memorie of the Catholickes of Fraunce who not onely acknowledged but also assisted and ayded this their present King notwithstanding his then knowne diversitâ— of religion or any former excommunication hâ—d froÌ„ the Popes As also the King of Spaines no lesse knoâ—ne detayning even to this day of Naples against the Pope notwithstaÌ„ding the Popes yearely clayming of it â—n the right of his See And thus much briefely coÌ„cerning such forraine examples as are alledged and acknowledged by our owne adversaries Onely wee thâ—nke this one point further worthie of observation That whereas it is manifest and confessed that sundrie Catholike Princes haue beene by their Protestant subiects actuallie deposed as your Highnes late Mother froÌ„ her kingdâ—me of Scotland which we referre to your Maiestâ—es owne more feeling (*) Howe they vsed that poore Ladie my mother is not vnknowne and with griefe I may remember it who desired onely a private Chappell wherin to serue God after her manner with some fewe selected persons but could not obteine it at their hands in the summe of the Conference before his Maiestie betweene the Bishops other of his Clergie printed 1584. pag 81. fine 82 initio testimonie the temporall Lord of Geneua from his territories there to forbeare the examples of the Lowe Countries the King (â‹) Hereof see heretofore tract 3. sect 2. in the margent at the letter c. of Suethland restrained as before to his private Catholike service â—n his owne Chappell we finde not yet on the other parte that so much as any one ProtestaÌ„t Prince was â—t any tâ—me deposed by his Catholike subiects so different â—re the spirits of Catholikes and Protesâ—ants yet is it evâ—deÌ„t that Protestâ—nts hâ—ue received their câ—â—efest beginning increase and strength by the onely favouâ— tolleâ—ation of their Catâ—olike Princes A PROTESTATION OF THE now English Catholickes SECT 5. AS concerning our selues we hould that the authoritie giuen by God to Kings is imediate absoâ—ute and ndependant and wee doe acknowledge from the Scripâ—ures that as (d) Rom. 13 1. there is no power but from God so likewise that vnto (e) Wisdom 6 3. King rule is giuen by the Lord and powâ—r by hâ— most High that (f) Prov. 8 15. by him Kings doe reigne as being (g) Rom. 13 4 6. his minister and that (h) Rom. 13 2. whosoâ—vâ—r râ—sisteâ—h them dâ— h withall resist he ordinance of God Hen e it is that we are commaunded to (i) Math. 22 21. Rom. 13 7. reÌ„der vnto Caesar the tribute of oâ—r obedience to be (k) 1. Pet. 2 13. subiect to the king as hauing preeminence to (l) Prov. 24 21. â—eare (m) 1. Pet. 21 17. honor him (n) Exod. 22 28. Act. 13 5. not to speake evâ—lâ— of him no not so much as in our (o) Eccles 10 20. thought to imagine his hurte but to bee (p) Rom. 13 5. subiect of ne essitiâ— and even for conscâ—ence sake Least that by our disobedience wee (q) Rom. 13 2. purchase to our selues domnation In so much as we doubte not further to affirme with our brethren the Rhemistes that (r) See the Rhemish Testament and the Annot. therein Rom. cap. 13. vers 2. after M. Fulkes edition fol. 259. a paulo post med Christians are bound in conscience to obey even their heathen Emperours Herevpon it is that wee differ â—n doctrine from our adversaries (2) See Bellarmin lib. 3. de Laiâ—is cap 10. 11. maintaining against them their contraâ—ie (3) Luther de Seculari potestate in tom 6. Germanico saith among Christians no man can or ought to be Magistrate but each one is to other equally subiect c. among Câ—ristian men none is superiour saue one and onelie Christ And in serm de oâ—e perdita also in his sermons Englished by Wâ—lliam Gage pag. 97. fine Luther further saith therefore is Christ our Lorde that hee may make vs such as himself is as he caÌ„not suffer himselfe to be tâ—de and bound â—y Lawes c so also ought not the consâ—ie câ— of a Christian to suffer them And in hiâ— said sermons pag. 261. circa med he doth adâ—on sâ— that we obey the Câ—vâ—ll Magistrate fâ—r saith he there commeth no losse of Christâ—an libertie or faith thereby for forsomuch as they doâ— not contend that those things are necessarie to salvatâ—on which they ordaine c. howbeit if any should contende that those commaâ—ndem nts of the Civill Magâ—sâ—rate be necessarie to salvation as doubtlesse they be in regard that they binde vs in â—onsâ—iâ—nce and to breake them were sinne then as it is saide of the tradâ—tâ—ons of the Papâ—sts the â—otrariâ— rather were to be done And M. Whitaker doubteth not to maintaine this doctâ—inâ—o Luther teaching vs obedience of policie rather then conscience For whereas Luther is â—hâ—â—â—d to say absurdly Christiani liberi sunt a statutis hominum M. Wâ—â—taker explâ—neth and deâ—endâ—th the samesaying liberi Christiani sâ—nt non vt nâ—llis legiâ—u obtemperent 〈◊〉 â—que sempâ—r vâ—â—â—nâ— s â— vd conscientia mentesque suaâ— legum humanâ—rum religâ—one liberatâ—â—sâ—e â—nâ—â—llâ—gant W ita â—r â—â—â—â—ss ad â—atiâ—nes Campiant rat 8. pag. 154. circa medium And sâ—e this lâ—kâ—â—octrine in Danau in prima partes aâ—tera â—arte coâ—tra Bel armâ—nâ—m pag. 1127 assertion t at the Civill Magistrates Lawes made of things lawfull or indifferent doe binde vs even in consâ—â—ence And froÌ„ this sured ground-worke proceedeth likewise that reverend and religious respect of loue and duetie wherewith we doe admire your royall Maiestie and hence lastlie it is that we do as now in most humble remonstrance and testâ—monie of our Loyaltie acknowledge and recognize even with vnspeakeable ioy to our selues and all due thankefuâ—nes therefore to â—od that your HIGHNES is our true vndoubted lawfull Soveraigne Lord King in whom is fulfilled the succeâ—full and blessed event of a most graue and prâ—dent (*) In regard â—â—d â—oâ—eâ—ight of this which â—ow is hâ— pely conâ—ne to passe K. Henrie 7. eâ—â—owsed his eldest â—â—ughâ—â— to Iamâ—s King of Sâ—oâ—laâ—â— Anno 1502. foresight and we thereby enriched with the most happie vnion of our long devided continent by whom only also and no other our dearest countâ—ie may enioy her established and sweetest â—eace avoiding so that dreadfull confusion and turbulencie of state which otherwise our former feares haue of long imagined and vnto whom only
ad Bellarmini disput part 1 page 375 fine et 276 initio the iudgements and testimonies of the Church then corrupt d and betwitchâ—d or made blinde with this error As concerning the Primacie of the Romane sea the Centurists sâ—y (*) Cent. 5 cap 10 col 1262 line 30. Leo very painefully goeth about to proue that singulâ—r prâ—heminence was giuen to Peter aboue the other Apostles and that thence rose the Primacie of the Romane Church and Beza further saith (â‹) Confess Geneue c 7 sect 12 and Whitaker de concilijs contra Bellarminum pag. 37 paulo ante medium faith de Leone primo non laboro magnus ille suit Antichristiani regni architectus and yet ibidem pag. 34. circa medium he sayeth of Leo fuit ille quidem doctus pius Episcopus sed fuit tamen magis ambitiosus c. it is manifest that Leo in his Epistles doth clearely breathe forth the arrogancie of the Anticristian Romane sea and my Lorde of Canterbury saith (¶) Mr. Whitguifte in his defence pag. 342 post med it is certaine that then viz. in the time of the auncient carthage Aphrican Councell the Bishope of Rome beganne at least to claime the superioritie ouer all Churches In like manner is that auncient councell of Sardis whereat sundry fathers of the Councell were present charged for acknowledging (28) Hereof see Osiander cent 4. p. 294 ante med and Caluin instit l. 4 c. 7 sect 9 and see hereafter Tract 1 sect 7 in the margent at the letter d of the second alphabet appellâ—s to the Bishope of Rome and Mr Fulâ—ke and other Protestants affirme that the auncient Romane Bishopes (29) See Mr. Fulke alleaged hereafter Tract 1 sect 7 letter a of the second alphabet And see Sparke against Mr. Iohn de Albines in his answere to the preface ante med and Osiander cent 5 pag 28 218. Anastasius Innocentius zozimus Boniface and Celestinus who liued 1200 yeares since challinged prerogatiue ouer the Bishopes of Aphrica by sorging a false canon of the Nicen Councell which pretence of forgerie is hereafter (30) See herafter Tract 1 sect 7 in the margent at the letter c. d. of the second alphâ—bet auoided Mr. Whitaker saith also of Iulius Bishâ—pe of Rome who liued in Constantines time that (31) See Whitaker de concilijs c. quoest 2 pag 42 fine 43 initio 44 paulo ante med he challenged to him selfe authoritie that no Councell shoulde be celebrated without the sentence of the Bishâ—pe of Rome S. Cipriane though a Bishope of Aphrick who liued Anno. 240. is charged by the centurie writers for his affirming (32) Cent. 3 c. 4 col 84 line 44. our chaire sounded by our Lords voice vpon the rocke and that (33) ibid. l. 49 there ought to be one Bishope in the CATHOLICKE Church for his challenge (34) ibid. l. 56 Peters chaire the principlll Church from whence Priestly vertue ariseth and lastly for his say they (35) ibid. line 51. teaching without any foundation of scripture that the Romane Church ought to be acknowledged of all others for the Mother and Roote of the Catholi k Church victor (36) Mr. Whitgifte in his defence c. pag. 510 prope finem as my Lord of Canterbury affirmeth liued Anno 198. and was a Godly Bishope and Martir and the Church at that time in greate puritie as not being long after the Apostles time yet is he charged by Amandus Polanus to (37) Amandus Polanus in silogethesin theologiae p. 165. haue shewed a Papall minde aâ—r gancie and by M. Sparke (38) Mr. Spark against mr Iohn d' Abbines in his answere to the preface ante med and see Osiander cent 2. pag â—7 96. somewhat Popel kâ— to haue receaued hâ—s bonndes when he tookâ— vpon him to excommunicate the Bishopes of the East Mr. Whitaker also charging him with (*) Whitaker contra Dureum l. 7. pag. 480. initio exercising iurisdiction vpon former Churches Lastly S. Ierneus who liued next after the Apostles schollers and in the same time victor is disliked for his affirming that (39) The centurie writers cent 2. c 4 col 64 line 10 all the Churche ought to accord to the Romane Church in regard of a more powerable principallitie wherein the Centurists charge him with (40) See the 2. centurie in the Alphabeticall table at the word Irenaeus a corrupt saying concerning the Primacie of the Roman Church 11 Eleuenthly as concerning the appointed Fast of Lent St. Ambrose saith (2) Ambrose serm 25 34. 36 it is sinne not to faste in Lent for which M. Carthwright (3) Mr. Cartwrite alleged in master Whitgiftes defence p. 100 initio reproueth him yet no lesse is affirmed by (4) Aug de tempore serm 62 77 S. Austine (5) Chrisost ad pop ho. 6. prope finem Chrisostome and other (6) concil 8. Tol. can 9 Fathers in so much as Chemnitius confesseth that (7) Chemnitius exameÌ„ Concil Trident. part 1 pag. 89. b. ante med saith Quadragessi nam enim Ambrosius maximus taurinensis Theophilus Hieronimus alij affirmant essâ— traditionem apostolicam Ambrose Maximus Taurinensis Theophilus Hierom and other do affirme the faste of Lent to be an Apostolicall tradition In more vndouted proofe whereof other Protestante writers do not only affirme (8) See this in Abraham Scultetus in medul theologiae Patrum p. 440. initio The superstition of Lent fasting to haue bene allowed and commaunded by Ignatius (9) Master Whitgifte in his defence c. pag. 408 circa medium who was scholâ—er to S. Iohn but do also defend (10) See Abraham Scultetus vbi supra And the same epistle of Ignasius being ad Philippenses is in like manner cited and acknowledged by Mr. Whitgifte in his deffence p. 102 ante med And by mr Carthwrite alleaged ibidem pag. 99 prope finem And mr Hooker in his ecclesiasticall policie l. 5. sect 72 pag. 209 circa med answereth our aduersaries vsuall obiection made against it and so likewise doth mr Whitgifte in his defence c. that very Epistle of Ignatius in which this Doctrine is extant to be his true Epistle and not counterfaite 12 Tweluethly concerning vnwritten Traditions and Ceremonies and first concerninge vnwritten TRADITIONS it is Confessed as followeth whereas Sanit CHRISOSTOME saith (2) Chrisost in 2. Thessal hom 4 the Apostles did not deliuer all thinges by writing but many things without and these be as worthie of credit as the other Mr. Whitaker in answere thereof saith (3) Whittaker de sacra scriptura p. 678 paulo post med I answere that thiâ— is an inconsiderate speech and vnworthie so greate a father and whereas Epiphanius saith (4) Epiphanius haer 61 circa med we must vse Tradition for the scriptuâ—e hath not all thinges and therefore the Apostles deliuered certaine thinges by