came to fulfill The Priests third Curse to which all the people were to say Amen Cursed be all they that say Faith is without sin and let all the people say Amen Ans FAith is the gift of God and the gift of God is without sin Eph. 2.8 Faith is that which gives the victory John 3.4 And that which gives victory is without sin And here they have cursed the Apostles and their Doctrine who saith Faith is without sin and Faith is precious 1 Pet. 1.7 and that which is Precious is without sin Faith is the gift of God and the gift of God is perfect and that which is perfect is without sin and gives victory over sin Without Faith a man cannot please God and that which men please God in is without sin Hebr. 11.6 And so ye have cursed the Apostle and his Doctrine the just and that which is pure that by which they were healed through Faith they were justified Rom. 3.28 and what is not of Faith is sin Rom. 14.23 So what is of Faith is not sin and what is righteous is not sin and the Scripture speaks of the righteousness of Faith Rom. 4.13 Faith is not of sin but what is not of Faith is sin Faith gives victory over sin 1 John 3.4 in which Faith man is justified and hath peace with God Rom. 5.1 and it is a mystery held in a pure conscience 1 Tim. 3.9 The Priests fourth Curse to which all the people were to say Amen Cursed are all they that say every man hath a light sufficient to lead him to Christ and that within him and let all the people say Amen Ans HEre they have cursed the Apostles Doctrine who said God would dwell in them 2 Cor. 6.16 and Christ in you the hope of glory Col. 1.27 and God is light 1 John 1.5 And they have cursed the Prophets who said I give him for a Covenant a Leader of the people I will dwell in them and walk in them saith God Jer. 31.31 Hebr. 10.16 And he saith I will send you the Spirit of truth and it shall lead you into all truth John 14.17 John 16 13. And I will be their God to rule them and they shall be my people Jer. 31.33 Thy curses are but winde for we are redeemed from the curse and the Apostles said the light that shined in their hearts was to give them the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ 2 Cor. 4.6 and they that are led by the Spirit of God are the Sons of God Rom. 8.14 and the light to guide our feet in the way of peace and he that hath the Son hath the Father also and if any bring another Doctrine receive them not into your houses neither bid them God speed 2 John 9 10. You have here shewed your selves in the cursed estate out of the Apostles rule the same spirit of truth that led the Disciples into all truth that shall reprove the world of sin John 16.8 13. The Priests fifth Curse to which all the people were to say Amen Cursed be all they that deny the Sabbath-day and let all the people say Amen Ans HEre thou hast cursed thy self and all the Apostles and all the Saints and their own generation hast not thou and thy own generation denied the Sabbath day the Jews met on which is the Sabbath day according to the Scripture do not ye meet together upon the first day and was not Christ crucified on the sixth day and did not he arise on the first day and did not the Saints meet together on the first day and not keep the Jews Sabbath-day do not you work upon it your selves and keep Markets and Fairs on it but as it is said before we are Redeemed from the curse These are the particular Sentences whereupon Matthew Mackell and the rest of the Priests present with him did excommunicate those people called Quakers in the presence of many witnesses and he required his Hearers to say Amen to every particular sentence John Humes Priest of Lismahagow his Principles Pr. THey who have not the Scriptures knowes not the Attributes of God by the light of nature but the Scriptures declare the great mystery of the three persons in Trinity which they who want the Scriptures knowes not Ans Thy Principle is a lie and they that had not the Scriptures knew God and Christ as Abraham and Enoch and the Scripture doth not declare of the three persons nor of the Trinity and the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God Pr. That the Scriptures reveal the great mystery of Election the great works of the Creation and the work of Redemption Answ There thou hast set up the Scripture instead of God and before God and the Son for it is God that doth reveal to babes and sucklings Mat. 11.25 and God did reveal by his Spirit 1 Cor. 2.10 and God shall reveal Phil. 3.15 and the things of God are hid from the wise and prudent Mat. 11.25 that have the Scriptures the Jewes had the Scriptures and God reveals his secrets to the Prophets his Servants Amos 3.7 no man knowes the Father saving to whom the Son shall reveal him Mat. 11.17 now the Son reveals and the Father reveals and the things of God are revealed by his Spirit 1 Cor. 2.10 the Jewes had the Scriptures and knew not the Son 1 Cor. 2.8 nor the Father as in John nor the things of God by a natural light as they call it the Jewes had the Scriptures and did not know the Election Isa 24. because they were from the Spirit So it is God that reveals the Son and Redemption and Election and not the Scripture the Scripture was given forth from them that had the Revelation from God Pr. That wee and the Papists and Jesuites and Priests do agree all together that the Scripture is the word of God that liveth and endureth for ever Answ I do believe that you and the Papists and Jesuits agree all in one but ye did not agree with the Apostles and Ministers of the word for the Ministers of the word calls the Scripture a Declaration as ye may read Luke 1. and ye do not agree with them that set forth the Acts that called it a Treatise Acts 1. likewise ye do not agree with some of your own who say the Scriptures signifies writings and writings will not endure for ever so ye are Babylon and do not agree with Christ and ye do not agree with John Bev. 〈◊〉 who saith the words nor with Moses nor God who spake all these words Exod. 20. In the beginning was the word and the word is God and the word liveth and abideth for ever but the Scripture is words and the Scripture cannot be broken James Nesmith Priest of Hambleton his Principles Pr. THat the soul of man is a reasonable sinfull substance Answ How can that which is sinful be reasonable and if that which is unsinful be
reasonable and sinful be reasonable both then they are one in unity The Lord will take the soul for an offering for sin doth the Lord take that which is sinful for an offerring Isai 53. see how thou and the Prophet agrees here But what is that soul that the wicked is not able to kill is it not that which God hath in his hand and this is a lye to say that which is reasonable is sinful of one that puts light for darknesse God breathed into man the breath of life and he became a living soul who hath all souls in his hand and the soul is immortal and Christ the Bishop of it is immortal and God hath it in his hand which goeth against him that doeth evil whose hand is immortal but man transgressing against the commands of God the soul lies in death so Christ is the Bishop of the souls so they that came to know Christ their souls rejoyce in God their Saviour Luke 1. Pr. That the evil Spirits are both sinfull and reasonable Answ This is a lie for reasonable is not sinful and unreasonable is sinful 2 Thes 3. they have not the faith and if the evil Spirit be reasonable and the good reasonable they are both one who then is unreasonable If the evil Spirit be reasonable thou pots no difference between the precious and the vile thou hast the Mark of a blind guide and a false Prophet in thy so ehead Pr. That one of them Quakers is worse then the Devil A. This is a lie with his strange wonder for there is nothing worse then the Devil whose children you are for when he speaks a lie he speakes of himself and he is the Father of it Henry Foreside Priest of Lingiah in Dunbarton shire His Doctrine and PRINCIPLES Pr. THat God commands all every where to repent to the end that they should not have it to say but they were warned but not that he would give them grace to repent Answ Here thou makes God that he does not intend that he speaks and so thou would make him unrighteous though the Lord commands all men every where to repent Acts 17.30 who hath made all Nations of men of one blood to dwell upon the Earth and all being concluded under sin and unbelief that he might have mercy upon all Rom. 3.9 For both Jewes and Gentiles all were under sin and none of them did good no not one And Gods intent is that when he calls men to repentance they should repent when he calls them and many did repent and you are not fit men to be Ministers of Christ or God Now if God command all men every where to Repent and as thou sayst does not intend they should Repent thou and you go about to make God unjust First the Lord he desireth not the death of a sinner but that he should turn from his wickednesse and live Exod. 33.11 Now in the turning from his wickednesse he lives but in going on in his wickednesse he dies so Repentance was Preached from dead works to serve the living God Heb. 6.1 Christ came to call finners to Repentance not the Righteous for the whole needs not the Physitian but to the sick Mat. 9.12 13. And as for saying God did not intend to give them grace though he calls them to repentance That is a lie unrighteous doctrine for the grace of God hath appeared to all men which brings Salvation Titus 2.11 and so as he calls them to repentance he gives them grace that grace which brings salvation which men are justified by so it is saving grace that brings salvation and teacheth to deny ungodlinesse Now they that live ungodly turnes the grace of God into wantonnesse Jude 4. and these are the wells without water in Cains way Balaams way and Cores way Jude 11. speaks the high words in hypocrisie and these are they that separate themselves from the Apostles sensual having not the Spirit Jude 19. and are of old ordained to condemnation who separated from the light which turnes the grace of God into wantonnesse so these are they that neglect the common salvation it was the charge of the Apostle to Timothy before his decease 1 Tim. 4.2 2 Tim. 4.7 Then told him perillous times should come and Doctrines of Devils and men speaking lies in hypocrisie he said unto them that they should trust in the living God who is the Saviour of all men and especially of them that believe 1 Tim. 4.10 But the Devils Doctrine leads them from their Saviour and from the grace 2 Tim. 4.1 And they that are not in the Doctrine are from the light which Christ hath inlightned them withall John 1.9 And have turned the grace of God into wantonnesse and pernitious wayes and drawes others from it and we do conclude that to be the Doctrine of Devils which sayes God calls all men to repent and intends not to give them grace nor would not have them to repent as thou Henry Foreside doth say for it was the charge of the Apostle to Titus to speak sound words and sound Doctrine and could not be condemned Titus 2. and told him that the grace of God which brings salvation had appeared to all men which taught them to deny ungodlinesse and worldly lust and to live godly soberly and righteously in this present evill world these things speak and exhort with all authority Tit. 1. But as I said before ungodly men that turn the grace of God into wantonnesse are of old ordained to this condemnation and this the is condemnation of the world that light is come into the World and men love darknesse rather then light because their deeds are evill John 3.19 he that loves the light the light is his Saviour but he that hates the light it is his condemnation Pr. That the two parts of the Church must be prophane and godless Ans The Church is the Pillar and ground of truth 1 Tim. 3.15 The Church of the living God for the ungodly are out of its grounds and that which is ungodly the pillar and ground of truth there is no ungodly in it and the Church is without wrinkle or spot holy without blemish Eph. 5.27 and the Church is in God 1 Thes 1.1 That which is in God is in the light and out of the ungodly Pr. That God before the world was had ordained one little part of the people for eternal life that sin or do all the evil they could they could not loose that which was ordained for them Ans Here thou goest about to make Christ a lyar for he that commits sin is the servant of sin 1 Joh 3.8 saith He that commits sin is of the Devil saith the Apostle and thou wouldst make God partial and hast taught a Doctrine contrary to the Scriptures For God is no respecter of persons Rom. 2.11 Who will give to every one a reward according to their works Psal 62.12 And he that works iniquity must depart cursed from Christ
Apostles departed from thence where he gave them command to stay so see thy Doctriâ—e is damnable and thou errs from the Scriptures let thy-mouth for ever be stopped and are not ye found in the steps of them Matth. 23. that Christ gives the mark of blind-guides to the multitude unto the Disciples which marks were such as the multitude might take notice of and I beleeve the multitude will take notice of and know you first ye bind heavy burthens upon mens shoulders ye are sayers and not doers and all their works they do to be seen of men Matth. 6. they love the uppermost rooms at feasts and the chiefest seats in the Assemblies greeting in the Markets stands praying in the Synagogues called of men Masters they were swearers they should scourge you in their Synagogues and persecute do not ye put out of your Synagogues Christ should send Prophets and wise men among them and they should persecute and put out of the Synagogues Mat. 23.34 They should shut up the Kingdom of Heaven against men and do not ye do so that do deny the light that lighteth every one that cometh into the world do any come to the Kingdome but who come to the light which every man that cometh into the world is enlightned withal may not the multitude take notice of these things called of men Master stand praying in the Synagogues having long Robes salutations in the Markets uppermost rooms at feasts puts out of the Synagogues and swearers and Christ said swear not at all Mat. 5.34 And be ye not called of men Master for one is your Master even Christ and ye all are Brethren now here is the marks of the blind guides as ye may read Matth. 23. Are they not a company of Swearers and will they not swear for their own advantage and were not the Priests always envious and false accusers provoking the Magistrates against the Disciples against Christ and against Jesus did not the Priests say Jesus should die for crying against them Jer. 26. And were not the Priests at work when any of the Saints were murthered to stir up the multitude against them or the Magistrates Was not the chief Priests and Elders seeking false witness 〈◊〉 out Jesus to death Mat. 26.39 And did not the High Priests say he had spoken blasphemy it was Pilate that put him to death did not the chief Priests perswade their multitude to ask Barrabbas Matth. 27.20 and crucifie Jesus and did not they mock him See how the Priests were alwayes busie for blood that all the righteous blood might come upon them shed upon the earth Matth. 23.35 And did not the Priests give money to Judas to betray Christ and did not the Priests give large money to the Souldiers to tell a lie and say his Disciples stole him away by night Matth. 28.11 12 13. had not Paul authority from the High Priest to persecute Acts 9.1 2. and so get you your Authority from the Magistrates and the people their Authority from you to persecute and would not the chief Priests have murthered Paul afterwards when he was converted Acts 23. Acts 2.7 Did not a company come with swords and staves from the Priests with Judas to take Christ Mark 14.13 as a troop of Robbers wait for a man so doth a company of Priests murther in the way by consent and have not ye consented together Hos 6.2 Pr. That Christ scorned men when he bad them be persect because he knew it was impossible for them Answ This is wickedness and impudency to say Christ scorned men when he bad them be perfect This is Antichrist and the Devils Doctrine for to say that Christ did command that which men should not come to for Christ nor God commanded nothing but what should be attained unto and it will be attained unto and hath been attained unto Christ said Be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect Mat. 5.4 he knew that they might be perfect if they come into the Kingdom of God for there no unperfect thing must enter Rev. 21. and so he did speak that which he knew people should come into but they should come into it if ever they came into the Kingdome of God what is this to thee which cannot love enemies for they that love enemies shall know perfection and perfect love and patience have its perfect work Jam. 1.4 the Apostles speak wisdome to them that were perfect but not the worlds wisdome which comes to nothing 1 Cor. 2.6 and the work of the Ministry was for the perfecting of the Saints till they all come into the unity of the faith unto the knowledge of the Son of God unto a perfect man and unto the measure and stature and fulness of Christ Eph. 4. and they should not be any more tossed to and fro with the windy Doctrines of men nor cunning craftiness wherewith they lie in wait to deceive and there art thou tossed up and down with every wind and far off the work of the ministry when thou saist blasphemously Christ scorned men when he bad them be perfect Christ did not scorne them but thy doctrine it is imperfect and thou and you that transgress and abide not in the doctrine of Christ thou and you are Anti-christs as ye may read 2 John 9.10 Pr. When it was asked him of the words that Peter spake of concerning them that brought in damnable Heresies and denyed the Lord that bought them he said they did but think the Lord had bought them but they were not bought but they thought they had been so Ans Here thou again with thy damnable Doctrine dost go about to make Peter and Jude lyars who speaks contrary to scripture and perverts their Doctrine and the words of Peter are thus even denying the Lord that bought them 2 Pet. 2.1 and the words of Jude 4. denying the onely Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ and thou saist the Lord had not bought them but they thought he had bought them wo and misery man will be thy portion that thou should so wickedly pervert the Apostles Doctrine and Scripture Acts 13.10 and bring in such damnable Doctrine and devilish Doctrine and speaks such lies in hypocrisy whose conscience is seared with a hot Iron 1 Tim. 4. it is time for people to turne away from you who have so long deceived them Pr. Concerning these words of Ezek. 18.28 If the righteous man turn away from his righteousness his former righteousness shall be no more remembred and he said the meaning of that scripture was they thought they had been righteous but they were not but supposed it had been so Answ Here in this thou art a minister of unrighteousness thou goest about to make God a lyar and the Prophets and perverts the scriptures for if he forsakes his righteousnesse and commits sin and iniquity and trespasses he shall die and not live in the righteousnesse but if he forsake his sin trespasses and transgressions in the righteousnesse that he
hath done and doth he shall live so Gods wayes are equal Ezek. 18. And thou sayest they thought they had been righteous but it was not so And the Lord by the Prophet saith it was so that they should live in their righteousnesse and dye if they depart from it and transgressed here thou art a diminisher from the Prophets and Apostles words whose name is diminished out of the book of life read Rev. 22.19 Pr. He denyed that Christ dyed for all men but for the Elect. Answ Contrary to Johns Doctrine who saith he is the propitiation for our sins and not for our sins onely but for the the sins of the whole world 1 John 2.2 and so it is the unbeliever that is shut out and not believing in the light that men are enlightened withall with which light they might see the one offering who tasted death for every man Heb. 2.9 and doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world that all through him might believe and they that believe not in the light are condemned Joh. 3.18 but believing in the light shall come out of condemnation and he is the Saviour of all men but especially of them that believe 1 Tim. 4.10 and the grace of God which brings salvation hath appeared to all men which was the saints Teacher Titus 2.11 12. and they that turn it into wantonnesse shall with it be condemned Jude 4. and they that set up a heap of teachers 2 Tim. 4.3 after their own lusts and went out from the Apostles doctrine before the Apostles decease 1 John 2.19 and have turned the grace of God that brings salvation into wantonnesse ever since and saith it hath not appeared unto all men which brings salvation which is saving grace and Christ Jesus doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world that they might believe and walke after him and saith they that follow him shall not abide in darknesse but shall become the children of light and have the light of life John 8.12 Now say they that hate the light it is not sufficient it is not a saving light but they shall find it sufficient to condemme them and their unbeliefe for not believing in it for believing in it they come to have the light of life John 8.12 and John 12.36 Pr. He being asked who were hirelings if they were not that did take hire his answer was they were hirelings that did not take hire and to prove it he brought that scripture in Philipians of them that preached Christ of envy and strife Answ Now all may see what doctrine he brings to pervert or rest the scriptures Philip. 1.15 to prove them hirelings that do not take hire that in the Philipians doth not prove that they were hirelings neither did they take hire so that for his purpose makes nothing though for this purpose he brings that scripture but that his folly and darknesse might appeare and be made manifest by the light for now to it his deeds are come who is unfit to talke of the scripture Pr. He said it was the cleare mark of the Devil to go up and down from place to place to preach as the Quakers doe Answ Now here in this he may charge all the prophets Christ and his Apostles which went up and downe from place to place Heb. 11. that this is the marke of the Devill but this is too manifest to bring to light and discover the Presbyterian Priests of Scotland who lies in Dens and Corners and fat benefits and there stick in the earth and are crept into houses who say it is the Devills marke to go up and downe to preach but this is that they may manifest themselves to be judged by the practice of Christ and his Apostles that their folly might appear unto all men Luke 9.5.8 Heb. 11. likewise the Presbyterian Priest are turned like ranters who saith whatsoever man doth God hath a hand in doing of it whether Good or Evil if a man commit never so much sinne and live never so wickedly he shall go to Heaven if he be ordained there to come how was God greived when David sinned the Lord was angry the Lord was wrath when the children of Israel sinned against him it greived the Lord that he had made man when all flesh had corrupted his way Gen. 6.6 and thou and you go about to make God the author of sin and saith God hath a hand in it whatsoever a man doth here again you and thou be in the doctrines of Devils what shall we say that God is the author of sin God forbid Rom. 6. they that transgresse the commandments of God provoke him to anger and though God created the evil Isa 49.7 yet his commandments was to man that he should not go into it Gen. 2.17 Gen. 4.7 Ezek. 18. but when he did he transgressed the command of God so he who saith if ye murther God is the author of it if ye persecute God is the author of it if ye do unrighteously God is the author of it you that murther persecute and do not righteously are of him that kept not the command of God of whom ye are Joh. 44. that would persecute and murther thou art gone out of the command of God and joyned with the Devil 1 John 3.8 that went out of the truth the Devil he went out of his estate and the woman hearkned to him and went out of her estate and man to the woman Gen. 3. The Jews went out of their state when they persecuted Mat. 27.25 Cain went out of his state when he murthered Gen. 4. The Christians went out of their estate fince the daies of persecution who had the name of Christianity Cain went out of his state when he murthered and Balaam went out of his state when he coveted the wages of unrighteousness and admired mens persons Numb 22. Jude 11. Core went out of his state when he gain-said the truth Num. 16. Jude 11. the false Prophet and the Antichrist which is the Beast and the mother of Harlots went forth from the state of the Apostles 1 John 2.19 which hath been fince the daies of the Apostles and so all wars and fightings and adversaries is because of being out of the truth fallen out of it James 4. there is pride and Lucifer Isai 14. and that is it that is of old ordained to condemnation Jude 4. and to be kept down and to be condemned everlastingly and there the time that shall be witnessed fit for the fire and Death and Hell and the false Prophet and the Dragon and the Serpent cast into it Rev. 20.14 but leaven is known that leavens into the new lump 1 Cor. 5.7 the everlasting fire that burns for ever Mark 9.46 how are the professions formes and religions fallen from the state and lost the state and out of the state that Christ was in the Prophets were in Abraham was in David was in Moses and the Apostles was in and remains in a form of their
is lead to life but every one that doth evill hateth the light and will not bring his deeds to the light lest they should be reproved and so the light is his condemnation John 3.18 19 20 21. They affirmed That Christ died not for all contrary to the Scripture 2 Cor. 5.15 as abovesaid They say that the Scripture is the Word of God which is but a Declaration of the Word Luke 1.1 And Christ his Name is called the Word of God Rev. 19.13 The Scriptures are words of God and Christ is the Word that fulfils and ends the words They affirmed That men and women and Children should be condemned for Adams Transgression c. contrary to the Scripture which saith The Children shall not bear the iniquity of their Fathers nor the Fathers the Childrens but every one shall give an account of himself and every one shall bear his own burden They affirmed That none could be perfect on this side the Grave and that a Ohilde of God cannot be perfect as to have no sinne at all Answ Contrary to the Scripture Mat. 5.48 Where Christ saith Be ye perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect And Christ doth 〈…〉 nor command impossible things and the Apostle saith We speak wisdome amongst them that are perfect 1 Cor. 2. And let as many as are perfect be thus minded and the Childe of God is perfect and without sinne for whosoever is borne of God doth not commit sinne and his seed remaines in him and he cannot sinne because be is born of God 1 John 3.8 9. It is as impossible for him that is born of God to commit sinne as it is impossible for him who is born of the Devil to cease from sinne They affirmed That none was Ministers of Christ but such as wait for an ordinary and mediate call from Men. Answ Contrary to the Scripture which saith The things of God knowes no man but the Spirit of God And contrary to Pauls Call who saith Not of man nor by man but by the Revelation of Jesus Christ for he neither received of man neither was he taught it but it was given to him of God and this was the Gospell he preached Christ within the hope of Glory and if any bring another let them be accursed 1 Cor. 2. Gal. 1.1.12 Colos 1. They affirmed That an oath was lawfull to be taken of men and women Answ Contrary to Christs Command Mat. 5. who saith Swear not at all c. and contrary to the Apostles Doctrine James 5.12 who saith Above all things my Brethren swear not neither by Heaven nor by Earth nor by any other Oath but let your yea be yea and your nay nay lest ye fall into Condemnation They affirmed That Bread and Wine is the Communion with Christ Answ John and the Saints had Communion with God and his Son Jesus Christ and their Fellowship was in the Light For saith he if we walk in the Light as he is in the light then have we fellowship one with another and the blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all sin 1 John 1.5 7. And they who are in the Light have fellowship with Christ and receives every thing in the purity from the Lord but they that hate the Light they remain in darknesse and every thing to them is accursed to the unbelieving and disobedient their is nothing pure but even their mind and conscience is defiled They affirmed that sprinkling Infants is an Ordinance of Christ when as Christ never ordained such a thing and their is no Scripture for it let the Priests of Scotland or any of their brethren in England prove it if they can They affirmed it was lawfull for them be called of men Master Answ Contrary to Christ his expresse words in Mat. 23.8.10 be not ye called of men Master c. They affirmed Tythes to be lawfull for Ministers now shewing themselves to be Antichristian dark and blind denying Christ Jesus to be come in the flesh and saying that is lawful which Christ hath disannulled and made void and there is no Law in the new testament that doth allow of Tythes to be paid to a Gospel Ministry therefore not lawful These are some of the false Doctrines and Principles of the Presbyterians about Glasgow Whereby it was plainly manifest that they are guilty of heresy and are heriticks which they would charge upon others But true Light now shineth which maketh deceipt and deceivers manifest Henry Foreside said in the hearing of several people that Christ was not in the Apostle Paul c. Contrary to Pauls words in Gal. 1. After it pleased God who separated me from my mothers womb and called me by his Grace to reveal his Son in me c. and in 2 Cor. 13. Ye seek a proofe of Christ speaking in me and Christ in you the hope of Glory Col. 1. and Jesus Christ is in you except ye be reprobates Peter Kid Priest of Douglasse said to preach that people should walk according to the Light and law within them is the Doctrine of Devils Answ Paul and other of the Apostles and Saints and true Christians who believed in Christ had the Light shining in them and the Law in them and the Spirit in them and God and Christ dwelt in them for their bodies were made Temples of the Holy Ghost as the Scriptures declare and the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus had made the Apostle free from the law of sin and death and saith John these things I write unto you that your fellowship may be with us and truly our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son Jesus Christ This was the Doctrine of Christ to bring people to Light Law life and spirit within to worship God in spirit and in truth and all who draw out and lead people from this are deceivers and their Doctrine is devilish William Somerwell Priest said It was ill manners to to say thee and thou to a man c. Contrary to the Scripture which all along doth give thee and thou to a particular not onely unto man though never so great in the world but also to God himself and unto Christ William Morton Priest of Wonstone summoned James Simmonton to his Sessions and being required to prove his Ministry he said he scorned to prove himself a Minister of Christ Contrary to the Scripture which saith be ready to give account of the hope that is in you with meeknesse and fear to every one that shall aske you And when he was told of taking hire for his preaching contrary to Christ his Commission who saith Freely ye have received freely give then the Priest arose in arage and called him base-born beggarly raskall contrary to the Apostles Doctrine who saith Let no corrupt communication come out of your mouth William Stockdale being in the Steeple-house of Lesmahagow where John Lum Priest thereof was preaching and he being writing some of his lyes the Priest cryed out and said There
was never any since the world began was free from sin nor never shall be write that said he Answ Which is quite contrary to plain Scripture Rom. 6.18 20 22. Being made free from sin ye became the servants of righteousnesse for when ye were the servants of sin ye were free from righteousnesse but now being made free from sin and become servants of God ye have your fruit unto holiness and the end everlasting life for the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord And Paul said Rom. 8.2 The Law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death A Relation of some of the Sufferings of Friends to the Truth in Scotland JOhn Roberton called Lord of Ornock publickly refused to enter Andrew Hambleton in Shawton-hill in his possession under him because he was excommunicated by the Priests Witnesses of this Elexander Hambleton and John Strudders William Gray James Findly John Gray Robert Smally John Robine was summoned to be upon a Jewry at Dunbarton and when they came there and went within the Barr they puld off their Bonnets and bad them swear unto whom they answered they would not swear But they will tell the Truth and take God to be their Witnesse upon it but this they would not receive for John Callhonne called the Sheriffs deputy bad them swear by God and hold up their hands or go into prison and it was answered we dare not transgresse the Doctrine of Christ who said swear not at all he said it was but the Law of Christ that bad men not swear but the Law of God bad men swear and so would have set the old law over Christ who is the end of it who forbids swearing And because they durst not transgresse the Doctrines of Christ in which the Apostle lived who said Above all things my Bretheren swear not at all they put them all five into Prison The Heads of that which past in Discourse betwixt the People called Quakers and the two Priests of Hambleton in the Priests house The Names of the Priests are Jam. Nesmith and John English in which Discourse they have manifested themselves and all the rest of their Generation to be none of the Ministers of Christ but the Ministers of Anti-christ who preaches another Gospel then the Apostles did as in the Discourse following you may plainly see And also some Reasons why we deny them First JAmes Nesmith said There is no salvation in an ordinarie way for sinners without externall Revelation from the Scriptures Answ Here all may see they hold out another way to salvation then the Prophets and the Apostles did for they said Christ was given for salvation to the ends of the earth Isay 49.6 and there was not salvation in any other nor no other Name given by which any can be saved but by the Name of Jesus Acts. 4.12 But that salvation they tell of which is by external revelation from the Scriptures was never held forth by the Prophets nor the Apostles nor declared of in all the Scriptures of Truth therefore all may see they are such as preach another Gospel then the Apostles did and so are to be holden accursed and turned away from Gal. 1.8 Jam. Nesmith said That Christ doth not excommunicate the knowledge of himself but by the Scriptures and that the Scripture is the means by which the knowledge of God is imparted Answ This is a lye and Scripture contradiction For Christ who doth communicate the knowledge of himself by his own Spirit saith none knows the Son but the Father neither doth any man know the Father but the Son and he to whom the Son will reveal him Mat. 11.27 So it is not by the Scriptures that the true knowledge of God is imparted to any man but by Christ 2 Cor. 4.6 The second Priest John English First Said the Vail that was over people in the time of the Law was the Old Testament and it was taken away by the New Testament Answ Sin was and is the vail by which the mystery was vailed all the time of the Law until now for when Moses is read the same vail remains over their hearts for their minds was and is blinded by the God of this World lest the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ which is the Image of God should shine unto them 2 Cor. 4.4 nevertheless when their hearts shall be turned to the Lord the vail shall be taken away 2 Cor. 3.16 which vail is done away in Christ 2 Cor. 3.14 and not by the Scripture which they call the New Testament and here John English is proved to be a lyar and of his father the Devil who is a lyar from the beginning 2. John English said That the Gospel that was preached to Abraham was the same for matter but not for substance neither was it a clear Gospel Answ The Gospel that was preached to Abraham was the same for matter and substance which Paul preached for matter and substance is one and it was a clear Gospel for Christ the substance was preached to Abraham and Abraham saw his day and rejoyced John 8.56 Therefore give over deceiving the people with lies and repent 3. John English said The Scripture is the glasse by which we see the Face of God Answ This is a lie and Scripture contradiction for the Apostle saith God who commanded the light to shine out of darkness hath shined in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ 2 Cor. 4.6 Mark the Priests ignorance or the Scriptures and here all may see that he is one of them that keeps people in darkness from seeing the face of God and erres not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God 4. John English said The foundation of the Prophets and Apostles was meant the Scriptures of the Old and New Testament Answ The Prophets and Apostles meant what they speak and the same foundation which they declared of and builded upon did 〈◊〉 Enoch Noah and others who died in the Faith before the Old and New Testament was written build upon which foundation was Christ the Rock of Ages the foundation of the chief Corner Stone 2 Tim. 2.19 1 Cor. 2.11 But thou art one of them that drawes people from the foundation of the Prophets and the Apostles to build upon thy lies and consequences which building and foundation the Lord will bring to naught for he is risen to sweep away the refuge of lies which thou and thy generation hath been covered with and will make you naked and bare for your covering is too short that your shame cannot be hid any longer 5. John English said That they had their commission from Paul to give Bread and Wine Answ Here hast thou made it plainly manifest that thou and thy generation are none of the Ministers of Christ who say you have your
Commission from Paul for giving people Bread and Wine Paul never gave such a Commission to any neither doth he say he had power to give any Commission but declares himself a servant neither did Paul own any of thy generation of hirelings which drew people from the true foundation but declares against them and bids people turn from them Therefore give over deceiving the people and repent and call not Bread and Wine any more an Ordinance of God which thou sayest you are commanded by man to practise lest thy and their portion be in the Lake where there is Weeping and Wailing and gnashing of Teeth which you cannot escape unlesse ye Repent for ye are such as make the Word of God of none effect by your Tradition and so are to be turned from Reasons why we deny them and the Priests of their Generation FIRST They are such teachers as walk in the steps of the Pharisees which Christ cryed woe against Mat. 23.6 They stand praying in the Synagogues and are called of men master contrary to Christs command who said to his Ministers be not ye called of any man master and because they are such as break Christs command therefore we deny them Secondly They are such as preach another Gospel then the Apostles did and saith Salvation is by the Scripture which is contrary to that which is held forth by the Prophet Isa 49.6 Who said Christ was given for Salvation to the end of the earth and the Apostle said their is not salvation in any other Acts 4.12 And because they preach another Gospel therefore we deny them Thirdly They are such teachers as say the Scriptures of the Old and New Testament is the foundation for Believers to build upon which is contrary to the Apostles Doctrine who saith Christ is the Foundation and cheif Corner Stone Psal 118.22 Act. 4.11 Rom. 9.33 1 Pet. 2.7 Mat. 21.42 And because they hold out another foundation then the Holy Men of God did therefore we deny them Fourthly They are such as take hire for their preaching contrary to Christs command who said to his Ministry Freely ye have received freely give and because they neither receive freely nor give freely therefore we deny them Fifthly They are such teachers who deny that the Grace of God which brings salvation hath appeared unto all men and so would make the Apostle a lyar and a false Minister who saith in the 2 Tim. 11. The Grace of God that brings Salvation hath appeared to all men and because they deny the Apostles Doctrine therefore we deny them Sixthly They are such teachers as deny the Doctrine of perfection which is the Doctrine of Christ who said be ye perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect and Holy for I am Holy which Doctrine the Apostles walked in and spake amongst those that were perfect 1 Cor. 2.6 And labored to present every man in Christ Jesus and because they are not found in this labour that the Apostles was in to present men perfect in Christ Jesus but cryes against it and preaches up sin for terme of life which is the Doctrine of Devils therefore we deny them Seventh They are such Teachers as go into Cains way and running greedily after rewards and covetousnesse Jude 11. contrary to the Apostles who said he covered not mans gold silver nor apparell Acts 20.23 therefore we deny them Eighth They are such as are made Ministers by the will of man and persecute and raile against such as fear God and are of a honest conversation therefore we deny them Nineth They are such Teachers as adde to and diminish from the Scriptures unto whom the plagues of God are due therefore we deny them Tenth They are such as Ezekiel cryes against in Ezek. 34. That feed with the fat and clothe with the wool and make a prey upon the people therefore we deny them Eleventh They are such teachers as uphold a false worship in the I dolls Temples made with hands which Christ sent his Ministers to cry against and do deny the true worship which is in Spirit and in truth therefore we deny them Twelfth They are such Teachers as keepes Drunkards Swearers liars proud covetous and all manner of vile persons in their Assemblies and cast out them that fear God and are of honest conversation therefore we deny them Written by one that Worship God in Spirit and in Truth and do deny all False Worship which men sets up and is also a witnesse for God against all deceit and deceivers known by the Name of Will Stockdale The 26 of the last Moneth called Feb. 1657. THE END
art unrighteous who would make God and the Apostles unrighteous like thy selfe let all that fear God judge of it who are now come to the judgment Seat before the Almighty God who have been them that erred from the Apostles Doctrine with it is judged and are judged and you must have a reward according to your works and he that comes to life comes out of his wickednesse and not the wicked man enters into the kingdom of God Rev. 21. and the promise is to the seed and he that works iniquity departs from the seed Gal. 3.16 And the Election obtaines it Rom. 11.7 Not him that wills nor runs But God that shewes mercy And whereas thou sayest the wicked manis ordained to life without any cause in the Creature less or more This is just the Devils Doctrine again to bring every one to hide his Talent and none neither to watch nor pray for this is the creature that brings him to lay a side wickednesse and to depart from sin and iniquity which lets him see it and covetous and drunkennesse so through the obedience of the Spirit and that is in the Creature that brings him to confesse his sin and for sake it whereby mercy is shewed the power of God worketh in us saith the Apostle And as they had been servants to unright cousness so came to yeeld themselves servants unto righteousnesse Rom. 6. How comes the commands of God to be obeyed if there be not somthing in the creature that cause him to obey it For thou sayest without any cause in the creature why were all these expressions spoken in scripture that they should obey all things that Christ commanded Mat. 28.20 And all the statute and Ordinances spoken of in the scriptures if there be not something in man to cause him to obey it but thy intent is to make God unrighteous who respects no mans person but gives to every man a reward according to works Rev. 2.23 The one as well as the other and all shall appear befor the judgement of Christ 2 Cor. 9.10 He will judge the world in righteousnesse but there is something in the creature for every man that cometh into the world being enlightned whereby he is capable of obeying or disobeying and not believing comes to be condemned and in believing he is saved he hath the witnesse in himselfe John 3.8 1 John 5.10 For he that commits sin is the servant of sin John 8.24 And there is no respect of persons with God but whosoever doth righteousness is accepted of him Acts 10.34 35. The Apostle said He perceived God was no respecter of persons but whosoever doth wickedly he hates the light and is condemned but whosoever doth the truth cometh to the light John 3.21 and so out of condemnation so thou teachest another Doctrine so as I said before The promise is to the seed the seed is Christ and Christ all and in all 1 Cor. 15.28 And all ungodly and wicked men are shut out of the Kingdome of God where no wicked men enters one nor other and man must be turned again from wickedness before he encers Rev. 21.8 Pr. He being asked what he would do with Quakers and he said if he had been a Civil Magistrate he would have thought it good service to have cut off all their heads Ans There ye may all see if he be not of Cains stock and what an envy proceeds out of his mouth and unchristian Spirit and how would he convert them if they were out of the way and how would he convince them who would cut off their heads hath not this proved the Quakers to be in the truth and he out of it and is not the command of Christ that ye should love your enemies Mat. 5.44 Now ye may see he is out of the command and example but followed the example of Cain the murtherer and doth not his envie show as much against the Magistrates as against the the Quakers because they will not execute his malice and slay them for him and be his executioners and were not these Priests as mad against the Magistrates as they are now against the Quakers at Dunbar fight and would not they have had their heads off let their Pulpits witness though now they admire their persons because of advantage Jude 16. Who cannot hold in but their shame must be uttered forth who would slay the persons of men as Cain did so wo from the Lord is gone out against you who are envious and strives to make the people envious but the life of God is risen in the hearts of his people with which they shall see you all and the Quakers be out of the way of Cain who be in the light of Christ Jesus the Saviour of the soul in which they come to have a habitation in God the Saviour of all men especially of them that beleeve 1 Tim. 4.10 So you that be out of the light be Vagabonds though ye have great habitations in the earth for Cain built a City yet a Vagabond Gen. 4. Pr. It was asked him of a fore-ordained number to desiruction and for what Christ wept over Jerusalem He said as he was humane he mourned and his Godhead decreed them to Hell Ans This is a lying Doctrine of the Devil for after many of them of Jerusalem came to be converted as ye may read in Acts 2. And many of the Priests came to be obedient to the Faith for all being gone astray both Jews and Gentiles Rom. 3.9 concluded under sin the pure the eternal tendred over them who had stopped their ears and closed their eyes to that which was pure of God in them that they might have come to that which is pure and have been gathered under Christs wings Mat. 23.37 who is pure and so have been converted and healed and have heard with their ears and have seen with their eyes And as for the word humane that is not Scripture language it speaks not that language and there were converted many thousands of the Jews and they were pricked to the heart when that the Apostle said that was both Lord and Christ whom ye have crucified Acts 2. mark ye here thou mayest see thy self to be a lyar for here was of the Jews and of Jerusalem that he had wept over thou sayest he had ordained them them to Hell as he was God which were converted afterwards so thou wouldst make God unequal that the Son is not in the Father and divideth them that the Son should weep over them and the Godhead decree them to Hell and did not Christ command his Apostles that they should not depart from Jerusalem and was not the mighty conversion at Jerusalem so hath not Christ wept over Jerusalem and after was there not a mighty conversion there And thou sayest he condemned them as God to Hell there thou mayest see thy self in the Devils Doctrine 1 Tim. 4.1 Many thousands were converted at Jerusalem which Christ wept over before the