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A06632	A letter of Sr. Humfrey Linde, to a lady of great worth, much afflicted for Syr Humfreys sake, hearing him ill spoke of, for not answering the Whetstone, and the Spectacles, that were written against his Via tuta And also for that he is greatly taxed for lying and corrupting of many authours. In which letter he doth cleare himselfe.	Floyd, John, 1572-1649.; Lynde, Humphrey, Sir.	1634 (1634)	STC 17093; ESTC S100654	14,875	50

Fathers to thēselues for we make no accompt of them Now cōmeth a greater busines about The second Charge I sayd the Doctrine of Transubstantiation began in the Lateran Coūcell 400. yeares agoe The Papists will haue it more ancient saying that my owne Maisters will giue me the lye that only the word Transubstantiation began then agaynst Berengarius who opposed the doctrine before the Councell and therefore it was taught before so they tell me that Iohn Foxe a good honest dealing man that hath tould but 1000. lyes in his Acts and Monuments and 120. within the space of three leaues giues my Worship the Whetstone he might as well say the lye Iohn Foxe in the booke of his Acts printed 1576. pag. 1121. affirmeth the denying of Transubstantiation began to be accoūted herely 1060. and in that number was one Berengarius who liued about the yeare 1060. Now saith my Papist what doth your Knightship say to the Fox Marry I say the Fox is a Goose and deserues to be hanged in chaines for not abusing the Papists more in those Primitiue tymes Againe they bring D. Humfrey who saith Gregory the great and Augustine brought Transubstantiation into England So he in his Iesuitisme 2. part rat 5. pag. 626. Peter Martyr in his Epistle to Beza dislikes S. Cyril for this doctrine M. Whitgift in his defence against Cartwrights reply pa. 408. saith Ignatius the disciple of S. Iohn sayd of the heretickes of those times they do not admit the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Sauiour Iesus-Christ which flesh suffered for our sinnes Heere he sayth he could bring the ancient Fathers to change the name of Syr Humfrey Linde into Syr Humfrey Lyes so omitting as he sayth the authority of Christ himselfe in Scripture the Fathers Councels and Figures of the old Testament leaues me to consider how true a Knight I am And by this you may see how gracelesse a Papist he is to giue a Knight the lye Yet he vrgeth me further sayth Iudas was the first of my opiniō in the denyall of Transubstantiation from him the Capharnaits Berengarius and so from him Luther and Caluin then to Grandsire Foxe Father Morton and so to his worship Syr Humfrey Lind so Iudas was the roote and the Knight cometh directly from his line I confesse this did put me into choller in which I sware that if I knew this Papist he should well know that I am a Knight-fighter as well as a Knight-writer which few know of I cōfesse He promiseth a more ample pedigree but let him keep it to himselfe I desire it not I say I am wronged and will reuenge it when and where I can The third Charge Because I sayd Phocas was the first that grāted Supremacy to the Bishop of Cōstantinople they make my Author Vrspergensis say Rome But let that passe Agayne they say he is corupted by vs and that Phocas could not giue Supremacy because he neuer had any such power neyther could he be the first seeing Iustinian ratified the Decrees Canons of the Popes Supremacy with an Edict as all Catholike Princes do now So Phocas only set forth the Decrees But my owne Maisters will vexe me worse he saith M. Whitaker and M. Fulke say That Pope Victor was the first that exercised iurisdiction ouer forrayne Churches so M. Whitaker agaynst Duraeus lib 7. M. Fulke in his answer to a Coūterfeyt Catholicke pag. 36. And at this tyme the Church of Rome was in great purity sayth the Bishop of Canterbury being neere to the Apostles in the yeare 158. So Bishop Whitgift sets forth Victor and the Church of Rome in those daies Thus with a bragge of conuincing me of an vntruth and referring me to Sciptures and Fathers he ends this Charge But I will not take so much paines seeing I can haue a true Note-booke of a true Minister where euery thing is Featly set downe their notes are my Scriptures and Fathers vpon their wordes and credits I receiue them for I know they will not deceyue Me though they should belye the Papists The fourth Charge Because I sayd the worship of Images was decreed by the Councell of Nice almost 800. yeares since Christ heere the Papists say If I meane diuine worship as my Rabbins teach out of the pulpit the ignorant people then it is false they haue no such Doctrine if I meane relatiuely and transitorily with respect to the person it represents as good subiects doe to the Chaire of State with reference to his Maiesty then I fayle of the tyme for that Isaurus opposed this doctrine before that Councell was assembled anno 726. and that the Fathers of that tyme as Damascene Germanus and others condemne this Heresy of the Iconoclasts which began by Iewes Turkes Saracens and Heretiks and is still maintained by the learned and noble Knight Syr Humfrey Linde agaynst Christ and all the ancient Fathers And by most of the English Clergy as appeared lately in Starre-chamber an 1633. there was granted the pious vse of them the Papists haue not any other in them and so they tell me the Councell condēned the Heresy not decreed the doctrine But who knoweth not that we disclayme from their Councels For as D. Luther truly sayd art 115. Councels are but as Parlaments of Princes and what is defyned by them is subiected to the Iudgement of euery priuate man It is a mad thing that what a Councell concludeth should be belieued seeing what is to be belieued and what not is left to euery spirituall mans iudgment and so farewell all Councels and Fathers Giue me the pure word and a pure spirit that knoweth only what bookes are Canonicall This is the doctrine of D. Luther D. Caluin which I follow and so my Spirit is with theirs and so I hope I haue answered their Councells and Fathers sufficiently The fifth Charge Because I tell them Irenaeus in his first booke cap. 3. sayth that the Basilidians and Carpocratians worshipped Images and from them I deriue their pedigree The first of these say the Papists as Irenaeus witnesseth vsed Images and Inchantements but maketh no mention of worship Of the later they say they had the Image of Christ but honoured it as the Heathens did their Idols placed it togeather with the Images of Pluto Pythagoras Aristotle and vsed them as Gentiles doe So that heere he sayth I haue grosly abused them belyed Irenaeus and that I agree with the Basilidians Carpocratians in many points of my Religion But he wil proue this when I haue defended my selfe and cleered my self of this false dealing which will neuer be The sixth Charge Because I say the Communion in one kind was decreed by the Councell of Cōstance aboue 1400. yeares after Christ the lye was told long since say they by my Father Luther as Card. Bellarm. noteth lib. 4. de Eucharist cap. 26. M. Crashaw and others haue it so that it is a stale lye and they find great

we wil no more of the dead but of the liuing those no smal fooles I can tell you both in their owne our eyes Appeare then in thy likenes graue D. White as thy picture sheweth thee in thy last worke But now that is changed together with thy titles for thou art a Bishop and that well deseruing it that not for thy Lying as the Papists pretend but for thy witty writings against those thy inueterate Enemies as I shall make appeare most manifestly Obserue therfore O honourable Lady how wittily he brings their owne authors their Cardinalls and Fathers against themselues And first Cardinall Hosius in his expresso verbo Dei Expresse word of God who as the Bishop relateth in his reply to the Iesuite Fisher page 15. in the end and page 152. in the beginning hath this doctrine A man ought not to be learned in the Scriptures but taught of God it is labour lost to spend time in Scripture for it is but a creature yea an empty element it becomes not a Christian to be conuersant in Scripture Madame is not here Blasphemy doth not the Doctour iustly insult here ouer the Pope and the Iesuits his Bandoggs that barke continually against the pure louers of the Word who had rather see the diuell then a Iesuite or a Seminary Priest which I thanke the Lord for I euer thought to be monsters I was so purely educated in the house of the Lord euer harkening diligently how eloquently our Ministers continually reuiled them so that I haue beene bred vp with a holy hatred to them and with pure eyes lifted vp to heauen I prayse the Lord for it I still hate them as zealously as the good Recorder of Salisbury did the Image of God the Father which he valiantly brake in pieces although his legge almost his necke was broken for it out of malice infallibly of the deuill for his doing so good a deed But now to the answere of the Papists against the Doctour Forsooth they say this doctrine is not theirs and that Hosius hath not these wordes of his owne but relates them as the blasphemous wordes of the Swinckfeldian Sect called the Heauenly Prophets Swinckfeldius a Hater of Fryars and Monkes being their captayne and reprehends and censures them Yea Hosius himselfe being taxed therwith by some learned men of ours in his life time answers indeed the same and sayth that if he for his owne part should haue taught any such doctrine he had beene worthy to haue beene hanged vp in the market-place But alas this will not help them for what reason had our learned Doctour to take the paynes to search whether they were Hosius his wordes or no it was sufficient I hope for him to find them there and so finding them to take them and stop the Papists throtes with them in what sense soeuer Hosius spake them I assure you this was done most eloquently or rather spiritually to make the Papists know they deale with men of Authority and such as know how to vexe a Papist and delude their arguments bring their owne best Authours agaynst themselues This I assure you Madame is now all in all amogst our learned Writers I hope I haue plaied my part herin as shal be seen anone as well as the best of thē But this Bishop hath not left them so I trow No he hath yet layd another of their Red caps doctrine open consequently of theirs to wit Bellarmines Although sayth Bellarmine the Bookes of the Apostles and Prophets be diuine yet should I not certaynly belieue them except I haue before hand belieued the Scripture for also in sundry places of Mahomets Alcaron we read that the same was of God from Heauen and yet we do not belieue it Thus M. Bellarmine But now behold M Doctour how wittily he catcheth this graue Cardinall in his owne trap Orthodox pag. 136. he makes the Cardinall say thus A man is not bound to belieue the Scripture to be diuine because the Scripture it selfe sayth so more then one is bound to belieue the Alcaron to be of God because in many places thereof we read that it was sent from heauen of God Behould the excellency of this Doctors wit how cunningly he reprehends the Cardinall of blasphemy agaynst the Word of God O Madame this is a thing that nips the Iesuits to the hart makes them scratch their heads to defend their Cardinall behold when all is done what a poore shift they are forced to fly vnto They are fayne to say forsooth that this Reuerend Doctour is a most egregious lyar and falsifier of Bellarmine Yes forsooth if we would follow their Counsell D. White should be forced to do Pennance and make restitution to Bellarmine for his iniurious defamation leauing out those words except I haue before hand belieued the Scripture But I warrant you the Doctour is wise inough and we too Wee le haue nothing to do with their Pennances and Restitutions they are things as hatefull vnto vs as the Masse it selfe Let them count vs falsifiers lyers deceauers and the lyke they shall find we are no such men but true zealous professours of the Word such as know how to beat downe Popery as well as the best And as for the Bishop himselfe howsoeuer they alleadge he had his Bishopricke for lying let them know that had he not sold as they say he hath his library to rayse his family and prouide for his children neuer to be stayned with the least spot of Popery he had answered the Nine-Reasons long before this Now Madame crauing your patience for I know your Goodnes will neuer thinke that time to long which is spent in reuewing the witty proceedings of our learned Doctours enter D. Morton Bishop of Durham for nimblenes of wit in this kind inferiour to none None more taxed by the Wicked then he for corruption lying shifting and falsifying in one Booke 600. But let them talke he is rare in interpreting learned Authors according to his owne sense he can make them speake as pleases himselfe and for paying the Papists home with scoffes taunts iests none more excellent then he and thus he is able to put the best of them to silence with all their Scriptures Fathers and Authorities One way of arguing I haue learned of him and it is a rare one indeed to wit to bring the Papists owne obiections for their solutions as you may see in the 4. page of his Discouery where he citeth a text of Gratiam causa 15 cap. 99 gloss 4. If I haue sworne to pay any money to one excommunicated after my oath I am not bound to pay it him the reason is because we ought to vexe euill men by what meanes soeuer to the end they may cease from doing ill Where if you marke in these last wordes we haue authority by their own Authors to vexe them all we can being a wicked people Now it is true that the words of