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92._o satisfaction_n for_o sin_n wrought_v only_o by_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o christ_n death_n be_v ground_v upon_o the_o rock_n that_o never_o can_v be_v shake_v even_o the_o word_n of_o god_n that_o abide_v for_o ever_o for_o as_o the_o redemption_n of_o mankind_n be_v to_o be_v ascribe_v only_o to_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o christ_n death_n and_o can_v without_o singular_a blasphemy_n be_v assign_v to_o any_o other_o thing_n so_o likewise_o be_v the_o satisfaction_n for_o sin_n appropriate_v to_o the_o same_o sacrifice_n of_o christ_n &_o can_v without_o like_o blasphemy_n be_v give_v to_o any_o work_n of_o man_n how_o excellent_a soever_o you_o make_v it_o a_o small_a matter_n to_o satisfy_v for_o sin_n that_o teach_v it_o be_v in_o the_o power_n of_o man_n by_o his_o own_o pain_n and_o penance_n to_o appease_v the_o wrath_n of_o god_n whereby_o it_o plain_o appear_v you_o neither_o know_v the_o grievousnes_n of_o sin_n nor_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n that_o require_v a_o great_a 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unlearned_a soever_o you_o think_v we_o be_v but_o by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n and_o light_n of_o his_o word_n can_v easy_o discover_v the_o falsehood_n and_o corruption_n of_o your_o religion_n let_v we_o now_o consider_v upon_o what_o point_v you_o be_v bold_a to_o utter_v so_o fond_o your_o judgement_n of_o i_o and_o thereby_o make_v trial_n of_o that_o profound_a learning_n which_o you_o take_v to_o yourself_o with_o out_o cause_n as_o shall_v here_o and_o every_o where_o appear_v first_o you_o charge_v i_o 98._o pag._n 98._o that_o i_o understand_v not_o m._n martin_n meaning_n which_o though_o it_o be_v true_a yet_o be_v it_o i_o trust_v a_o venial_a offence_n but_o i_o perceive_v his_o meaning_n well_o enough_o &_o frame_v my_o answer_n direct_o to_o the_o same_o the_o question_n be_v whether_o to_o attribute_v to_o our_o suffering_n the_o virtue_n of_o satisfy_v for_o our_o sin_n be_v not_o injurious_a to_o the_o passion_n &_o satisfaction_n of_o christ_n i_o say_v it_o be_v 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intolerable_o will_v you_o match_v yourselves_o with_o christ_n your_o work_n and_o your_o suffering_n with_o his_o you_o make_v a_o very_a unequal_a &_o most_o unreasonable_a comparison_n for_o be_v there_o in_o you_o that_o perfection_n of_o virtue_n and_o excellency_n of_o grace_n that_o be_v in_o christ_n whereby_o he_o full_o satisfy_v the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o therefore_o deserve_v worthy_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n all_o our_o righteousness_n be_v unperfect_a all_o our_o obedience_n be_v full_a of_o infirmity_n whatsoever_o we_o can_v do_v or_o suffer_v be_v stain_v with_o some_o pollution_n of_o sin_n and_o therefore_o of_o due_a can_v merit_v nothing_o at_o the_o hand_n of_o god_n much_o less_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n and_o life_n everlasting_a thus_o your_o sum_n be_v not_o right_o gather_v as_o you_o may_v see_v work_n pag._n 102_o rom._n 6.23_o eternal_a life_n be_v a_o free_a gift_n and_o therefore_o be_v not_o obtain_v by_o merit_n of_o good_a work_n 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sinner_n and_o our_o justice_n consist_v not_o of_o our_o own_o merit_n but_o of_o god_n mercy_n the_o scripture_n say_v the_o just_a man_n be_v a_o accuser_n of_o himself_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o speech_n our_o righteousness_n by_o saint_n jeromes_n doctrine_n consist_v not_o in_o the_o merit_n of_o our_o good_a work_n but_o in_o the_o confession_n of_o our_o sin_n and_o mercy_n of_o the_o lord_n furthermore_o he_o say_v in_o the_o same_o book_n in_o deuteronomie_n it_o be_v plain_o show_v that_o we_o be_v save_v not_o by_o our_o work_n &_o justice_n but_o by_o the_o mercy_n of_o god_n when_o the_o lord_n say_v by_o moses_n say_v not_o in_o thy_o heart_n when_o the_o lord_n shall_v destroy_v they_o before_o thy_o face_n the_o lord_n have_v bring_v i_o in_o for_o my_o righteousness_n etc._n etc._n if_o the_o israëlite_n can_v not_o deserve_v the_o land_n of_o canaan_n to_o be_v give_v unto_o they_o for_o their_o righteousness_n who_o can_v trust_v to_o receive_v the_o land_n 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