deed_n ambrose_n be_v ill_o join_v with_o austin_n see_v in_o the_o place_n allege_v he_o have_v not_o the_o same_o but_o another_o more_o large_a definition_n contain_v under_o it_o original_a sin_n also_o when_o he_o say_v 8._o say_v tom._n 4._o lib._n de_fw-fr paradiso_n c._n 8._o what_o be_v sin_n but_o a_o prevarication_n against_o the_o law_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n this_o prevarication_n be_v as_o well_o in_o the_o nature_n and_o disposition_n of_o man_n as_o in_o actual_a sin_n the_o judgement_n of_o aquinas_n and_o such_o popish_a schoolman_n be_v not_o to_o be_v much_o esteem_v in_o this_o point_n while_o they_o teach_v that_o original_a corruption_n in_o those_o that_o be_v baptize_v &_o justify_v be_v not_o proper_o any_o sin_n at_o all_o &_o therefore_o be_v reject_v herein_o of_o all_o orthodox_n divine_v argum_fw-la vi_o if_o the_o apostle_n give_v commandment_n unto_o the_o eldership_n of_o ephesus_n for_o the_o whole_a administration_n of_o all_o ordinance_n in_o that_o church_n then_o may_v the_o eldership_n of_o every_o particular_a congregation_n administer_v among_o themselves_o all_o god_n ordinance_n but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a therefore_o the_o second_o the_o major_n be_v prove_v two_o way_n 1._o by_o scripture_n act._n 20._o vers_fw-la 17.28.2_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o learned_a whitaker_n etc._n etc._n the_o minor_a be_v undeniable_a for_o as_o mr_n brightman_n say_v there_o be_v one_o form_n etc._n etc._n answ._n i._n mr_n can_v hear_v again_o wander_v from_o the_o question_n &_o go_v about_o to_o prove_v that_o which_o i_o never_o deny_v viz._n that_o the_o eldership_n of_o every_o particular_a church_n may_v administer_v all_o god_n ordinance_n among_o themselves_o even_o those_o solemn_a act_n of_o communion_n with_o other_o church_n both_o in_o thing_n spiritual_a and_o corporal_a be_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n be_v to_o be_v perform_v by_o the_o direction_n of_o the_o eldership_n this_o hinder_v not_o but_o that_o any_o eldership_n or_o church_n itself_o be_v find_v in_o error_n or_o other_o unfaithful_a deal_n may_v be_v subject_a to_o the_o censure_n of_o many_o church_n unite_v in_o their_o synod_n ii_o if_o it_o belong_v to_o the_o eldership_n of_o every_o particular_a church_n to_o administer_v all_o god_n ordinance_n then_o how_o can_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n be_v due_o administer_v in_o that_o church_n of_o the_o brownist_n whereof_o mr_n can_v be_v bishop_n alone_o where_o there_o be_v no_o eldership_n where_o there_o be_v neither_o teach_n nor_o rule_v elder_a beside_o himself_o see_v there_o be_v no_o ruler_n in_o his_o own_o company_n but_o himself_o &_o he_o deny_v all_o other_o rule_n over_o he_o by_o synod_n do_v he_o not_o make_v himself_o a_o kind_n of_o ecclesiastical_a monarch_n or_o sole_a governor_n of_o the_o separation_n iii_o mr_n can_v do_v here_o again_o bewray_v his_o notorious_a ignorance_n of_o logic_n whereof_o he_o profess_v so_o great_a skill_n in_o the_o frame_n of_o so_o many_o syllogism_n and_o yet_o like_o the_o child_n that_o know_v not_o the_o right_a hand_n from_o the_o left_a can_v discern_v betwixt_o the_o major_a and_o the_o minor_a of_o his_o syllogism_n this_o appear_v here_o when_o he_o call_v that_o his_o major_n which_o he_o prove_v by_o act._n 20.17.28_o and_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o d._n whitaker_n viz._n that_o the_o apostle_n give_v commandment_n unto_o the_o eldership_n of_o ephesus_n etc._n etc._n which_o be_v his_o assumption_n or_o minor_a and_o again_o by_o call_v that_o his_o minor_a for_o which_o he_o cite_v mr_n brightman_n and_o other_o treatise_n which_o serve_v to_o prove_v one_o form_n of_o church-government_n common_a to_o all_o church_n as_o any_o logician_n that_o look_v upon_o his_o argument_n may_v easy_o discern_v when_o he_o propound_v simple_a or_o categovicall_a syllogism_n than_o be_v he_o not_o so_o deceyve_v in_o his_o guess_v at_o a_o major_a or_o minor_n but_o so_o oft_o as_o he_o use_v any_o hypotheticall_a syllogism_n so_o oft_o he_o be_v as_o a_o man_n wander_v in_o a_o wood_n or_o wilderness_n and_o the_o reason_n hereof_o seem_v to_o be_v this_o whereas_o in_o a_o hypotheticall_a syllogism_n the_o antecedent_n of_o the_o major_n be_v assume_v usual_o in_o the_o minor_a and_o that_o which_o be_v but_o a_o part_n of_o the_o major_n come_v to_o be_v the_o whole_a minor_n he_o mistake_v a_o part_n for_o the_o whole_a do_v therefore_o call_v that_o which_o be_v only_o the_o antecedent_n of_o the_o major_n by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o whole_a major_a proposition_n when_o as_o indeed_o it_o be_v the_o whole_a minor_a proposition_n and_o so_o to_o be_v call_v have_v not_o w._n best_o be_v a_o simplician_n as_o the_o brownist_n note_v he_o to_o be_v he_o will_v never_o have_v place_v his_o confidence_n in_o the_o skill_n of_o this_o simple_a logician_n nor_o rest_v under_o the_o shadow_n of_o his_o syllogism_n argum_fw-la vii_o 72._o vii_o churc_n plea._n p._n 72._o such_o office_n and_o calling_n without_o which_o the_o church_n of_o god_n be_v complete_a and_o perfect_a for_o government_n be_v superfluous_a and_o humane_a but_o the_o church_n of_o god_n may_v be_v complete_a and_o perfect_a for_o government_n without_o classical_a and_o synodical_a office_n and_o calling_n therefore_o these_o office_n and_o calling_n be_v superfluous_a &_o humane_a this_o argument_n the_o protestant_n have_v use_v against_o the_o pope_n &_o the_o reformist_n against_o bishop_n arch-bishop_n chancellor_n etc._n etc._n now_o the_o same_o be_v every-way_n as_o firm_a &_o good_a against_o synod_n and_o class_n for_o without_o they_o the_o church_n of_o god_n be_v full_o bring_v to_o complete_a perfection_n and_o unity_n d._n fulke_o 10.11_o fulke_o learn_v disc_n eccl._n gou._n p._n 10.11_o confident_o affirm_v so_o much_o that_o which_o d._n whitaker_n 22.23_o whitaker_n de_fw-fr conc_fw-fr qu._n 1._o p._n 22.23_o write_v of_o general_n council_n be_v by_o mr_n parker_n 133._o parker_n pol._n ecc._n l._n 3._o p._n 133._o apply_v and_o right_o unto_o particular_a synod_n the_o church_n of_o god_n say_v he_o can_v well_o subsist_v without_o they_o for_o she_o be_v sometime_o without_o they_o beside_o we_o be_v not_o bind_v by_o any_o special_a commandment_n of_o god_n to_o have_v they_o answ._n i._n this_o argument_n conclude_v nothing_o against_o we_o neither_o touch_v it_o the_o question_n when_o do_v i_o ever_o speak_v of_o any_o synodical_a office_n and_o what_o be_v those_o office_n that_o here_o he_o intend_v the_o member_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n be_v no_o other_o than_o the_o ordinary_a officer_n or_o deputy_n of_o particular_a church_n consider_v together_o and_o determine_v so_o as_o they_o judge_v best_a for_o the_o edification_n of_o their_o flock_n ii_o if_o he_o imagine_v or_o conceive_v that_o the_o president_n which_o propound_v matter_n in_o synod_n or_o the_o scribe_n that_o record_v they_o be_v distinct_a synodical_a officer_n he_o may_v as_o well_o think_v and_o we_o may_v as_o well_o say_v that_o the_o brownist_n also_o have_v other_o distinct_a ecclesiastical_a office_n beside_o pastor_n teacher_n or_o elder_n namely_o precedent_n and_o scribe_n because_o heretofore_o in_o the_o day_n of_o mr_n johnson_n and_o mr_n ainsworth_n they_o with_o their_o elder_n do_v by_o course_n propound_v matter_n in_o their_o church_n &_o have_v also_o a_o scribe_n to_o write_v down_o their_o special_a business_n &_o now_o in_o mr_n cannes_n time_n when_o they_o have_v no_o eldership_n if_o he_o alone_o propound_v matter_n and_o keep_v record_n of_o they_o in_o writing_n it_o may_v then_o be_v say_v that_o he_o have_v two_o or_o three_o ecclesiastical_a office_n as_o well_o as_o so_o many_o mechanical_a trade_n iii_o if_o propound_v of_o matter_n as_o the_o president_n and_o write_v they_o as_o the_o scribe_n do_v constitute_v new_a office_n then_o many_o other_o member_n of_o the_o brownist_n church_n may_v be_v repute_v for_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n for_o precedent_n and_o scribe_n for_o mr_n can_n be_v now_o their_o only_a governor_n if_o it_o fall_v out_o that_o any_o among_o they_o shall_v make_v complaint_n against_o his_o doctrine_n or_o practice_n then_o those_o member_n of_o the_o church_n that_o shall_v propound_v the_o same_o to_o the_o church_n and_o moderate_v the_o action_n or_o keep_v record_n thereof_o in_o writing_n in_o behalf_n of_o the_o church_n he_o be_v unfit_a to_o do_v it_o himself_o in_o his_o own_o cause_n must_v then_o be_v account_v new_a officer_n precedent_n &_o scribe_n of_o the_o church_n iv_o that_o which_o he_o say_v of_o class_n and_o synod_n that_o without_o they_o the_o church_n of_o god_n be_v full_o bring_v to_o complete_a perfection_n and_o unity_n compare_v they_o to_o lordly_a prelate_n chancellor_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v utter_o false_a he_o only_o affirm_v it_o and_o no_o word_n of_o scripture_n be_v
be_v such_o party_n also_o as_o have_v be_v already_o censure_v about_o that_o controversy_n and_o see_v the_o daub_v between_o mr_n can_n and_o w.b._n the_o conclusion_n speak_v of_o be_v not_o the_o conclusion_n of_o the_o congregation_n and_o mr_n can_n himself_o allow_v not_o a_o consistory_n to_o make_v any_o such_o conclusion_n without_o the_o congregation_n and_o by_o his_o profession_n it_o do_v not_o belong_v unto_o a_o consistory_n and_o yet_o he_o help_v w.b._n to_o exclaim_v for_o that_o wherein_o he_o himself_o be_v of_o another_o mind_n touch_v the_o word_n of_o the_o prophet_n abuse_v and_o misapply_v by_o they_o to_o frame_v their_o complaint_n woe_n unto_o we_o we_o be_v spoil_v jer._n 4.13_o i_o answer_v 1._o the_o liberty_n of_o appeal_n unto_o class_n and_o synod_n be_v that_o which_o preserve_v a_o church_n and_o the_o member_n thereof_o from_o be_v spoil_v by_o any_o faction_n and_o by_o their_o help_n we_o enjoy_v our_o liberty_n and_o peace_n and_o be_v establish_v and_o furnish_v with_o such_o minister_n as_o agree_v with_o we_o in_o the_o truth_n and_o be_v endue_v with_o such_o gift_n as_o be_v meet_v for_o our_o edification_n 2._o on_o the_o contrary_a for_o want_v of_o combination_n with_o class_n mr_n can._n may_v just_o take_v up_o the_o complaint_n woe_n unto_o we_o we_o be_v spoil_v since_o his_o come_n unto_o they_o beside_o former_a dissipation_n their_o church_n be_v rend_v in_o the_o midst_n by_o incurable_a contention_n their_o people_n scatter_v he_o himself_o depose_v and_o reject_v by_o the_o elder_n &_o people_n &_o they_o mutual_o one_o half_a abandon_v another_o &_o avoid_v one_o another_o company_n as_o excommunicate_n loe_o here_o a_o spoil_n argum_fw-la x._o it_o be_v a_o sin_n against_o god_n to_o add_v any_o thing_n to_o that_o form_n and_o manner_n of_o order_v church_n which_o christ_n our_o heavenly_a prophet_n have_v set_v forth_o unto_o we_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n to_o subject_v particular_a congregation_n under_o any_o other_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o be_v to_o add_v unto_o that_o form_n and_o manner_n of_o order_v church_n which_o etc._n etc._n therefore_o it_o be_v a_o sin_n to_o do_v it_o the_o proposition_n can_v be_v except_v against_o for_o the_o scripture_n herein_o be_v evident_a deut._n 4.2_o etc._n etc._n many_o learned_a man_n etc._n etc._n the_o assumption_n can_v for_o shame_n be_v deny_v only_o because_o the_o weight_n of_o the_o controversy_n lean_v upon_o it_o i_o will_v speak_v further_o of_o it_o in_o the_o next_o section_n answ._n for_o the_o proposition_n i._o if_o it_o be_v well_o understand_v i_o do_v willing_o grant_v it_o and_o mr_n can_n do_v again_o trifle_n in_o allege_v so_o many_o scripture_n ancient_a father_n and_o other_o late_a writer_n for_o the_o proof_n thereof_o ii_o both_o the_o scripture_n and_o other_o writer_n allege_v by_o he_o do_v as_o well_o condemn_v such_o as_o take_v from_o the_o word_n of_o god_n as_o those_o that_o add_v unto_o it_o and_o therefore_o they_o serve_v to_o reprove_v mr_n can._n that_o detract_v from_o it_o by_o deny_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n teach_v in_o the_o forementioned_a scripture_n both_o of_o the_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n the_o king_n coin_n be_v adulterate_a as_o well_o by_o clip_v and_o diminish_v the_o same_o as_o otherwise_o this_o crime_n be_v they_o guilty_a of_o that_o clip_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n iii_o the_o father_n here_o mention_v do_v give_v express_a testimony_n for_o synod_n by_o special_a &_o particular_a allowance_n of_o they_o and_o therefore_o they_o be_v double_o abuse_v be_v thus_o allege_v against_o their_o meaning_n for_o the_o assumption_n he_o incur_v a_o threefold_a shame_n i._o it_o be_v a_o bold_a and_o shameless_a assertion_n for_o he_o to_o say_v it_o can_v for_o shame_n be_v deny_v when_o as_o it_o be_v evident_o false_a and_o general_o deny_v by_o the_o most_o godly_a and_o learned_a in_o all_o age_n ii_o another_o shame_n it_o be_v that_o though_o he_o here_o confess_v the_o weight_n of_o the_o controversy_n lean_v upon_o it_o yet_o here_o he_o bring_v nothing_o at_o all_o for_o the_o confirmation_n thereof_o this_o be_v his_o manner_n where_o no_o need_n of_o proof_n be_v there_o he_o idle_o abound_v with_o scripture_n father_n and_o other_o writer_n where_o the_o point_n of_o difference_n be_v on_o which_o the_o weight_n of_o the_o controversy_n lean_v there_o he_o leave_v his_o assumption_n naked_a and_o without_o proof_n iii_o it_o be_v a_o further_a shame_n to_o put_v we_o off_o to_o the_o next_o section_n and_o to_o tell_v we_o he_o will_v there_o speak_v further_o of_o it_o where_o he_o only_o allege_v the_o testimony_n of_o man_n be_v this_o answerable_a to_o the_o profession_n of_o the_o brownist_n that_o boast_v so_o much_o to_o the_o law_n and_o to_o the_o testimony_n have_v thus_o examine_v his_o argument_n which_o he_o have_v honour_v with_o the_o ornament_n of_o his_o art_n by_o propound_v they_o in_o syllogistical_a form_n we_o will_v now_o proceed_v to_o consider_v another_o sort_n of_o his_o reason_n to_o which_o he_o do_v not_o vouchsafe_v so_o much_o respect_n but_o propound_v they_o more_o careless_o and_o naked_o without_o such_o complete_a logical_a attire_n of_o these_o he_o say_v there_o be_v yet_o other_o reason_n to_o prove_v our_o assertion_n the_o which_o i_o will_v here_o lay_v down_o more_o brief_o reas._n i._o 75._o i._o church_n plea_n p._n 75._o if_o every_o eldership_n have_v a_o like_a &_o equal_a power_n as_o hierome_n cyprian_n bucer_n and_o other_o affirm_v then_o may_v not_o the_o officer_n of_o one_o congregation_n seek_v by_o authority_n to_o suppress_v the_o act_n and_o decree_v conclude_v in_o another_o answ._n i._n the_o consequence_n of_o this_o reason_n be_v deny_v by_o we_o though_o every_o eldership_n be_v of_o equal_a power_n yet_o the_o minister_n and_o elder_n of_o one_o congregation_n be_v join_v together_o in_o a_o classis_fw-la or_o synod_n with_o the_o deputy_n of_o many_o church_n these_o may_v lawful_o seek_v by_o their_o joint_a authority_n to_o suppress_v any_o unlawful_a act_n or_o decree_n of_o another_o congregation_n the_o reason_n be_v because_o as_o d._n whitaker_n 3._o whitaker_n de_fw-fr conc_fw-fr qu._n 1._o c._n 3._o reason_v from_o matt._n 18.20_o and_o mr_n parker_n 4._o parker_n pol._n ecc._n l._n 3._o c._n 13._o §_o 4._o allege_v again_o from_o he_o vis_fw-fr unita_fw-la fortior_fw-la power_n combine_v be_v the_o strong_a the_o concurrence_n of_o power_n from_o many_o church_n be_v the_o ground_n on_o synodall_n and_o classical_a authority_n over_o particular_a church_n though_o otherwise_o in_o themselves_o consider_v apart_o they_o be_v all_o equal_a ii_o note_v here_o again_o the_o trifle_a and_o shift_v of_o mr_n can_n to_o prove_v the_o equality_n of_o eldership_n he_o allege_v the_o testimony_n of_o hierome_n cyprian_n bucer_n and_o other_o though_o i_o have_v before_o grant_v it_o and_o show_v that_o in_o the_o classis_fw-la our_o eldership_n have_v 86._o have_v answ_n to_o w._n b_o p._n 86._o the_o same_o liberty_n and_o power_n in_o give_v our_o voice_n equal_o with_o other_o and_o that_o our_o elder_n 90._o elder_n ibid._n p._n 90._o have_v exercise_v as_o much_o authority_n as_o any_o member_n of_o the_o classis_fw-la by_o give_v their_o voice_n for_o decide_v judge_v and_o determine_v any_o controversy_n etc._n etc._n yet_o needless_o he_o bring_v divers_a writer_n for_o proof_n of_o this_o confess_v and_o practise_v truth_n and_o for_o the_o confirmation_n of_o his_o most_o false_a consequence_n he_o offer_v not_o to_o bring_v any_o proof_n at_o all_o from_o any_o word_n of_o god_n or_o man_n reas._n ii_o it_o be_v against_o sense_n that_o a_o minister_n shall_v undertake_v the_o care_n of_o more_o church_n than_o one_o only_o who_o read_v in_o scripture_n of_o a_o steward_n over_o many_o family_n a_o sheep_n hear_v over_o divers_a flock_n etc._n etc._n nature_n have_v ordain_v say_v 2._o say_v lib._n 1._o c._n 2._o aristotle_n one_o unto_o one_o answ._n i._n we_o read_v in_o scripture_n of_o jaacob_n that_o be_v a_o shepherd_n over_o divers_a flock_n both_o of_o his_o own_o and_o of_o laban_n gen._n 30.36_o 40._o ii_o we_o read_v in_o scripture_n of_o the_o apostle_n that_o be_v steward_n and_o shepherd_n over_o divers_a flock_n have_v the_o care_n of_o all_o church_n 1._o cor._n 4.1_o with_o 2._o cor._n 11.28_o joh._n 20.15_o 16._o mr_n can_n ought_v at_o least_o to_o have_v except_v extraordinary_a shepherd_n iii_o though_o ordinary_a pastor_n or_o minister_n have_v the_o peculiar_a and_o proper_a charge_n of_o no_o more_o than_o one_o flock_n yet_o in_o regard_n of_o a_o common_a and_o joint_a care_n of_o many_o church_n combine_v in_o class_n and_o synod_n we_o read_v in_o scripture_n that_o the_o
goulartius_n also_o in_o his_o annotation_n thereon_o observe_v that_o these_o synod_n be_v keep_v to_o this_o end_n that_o the_o purity_n of_o doctrine_n and_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n may_v be_v preserve_v entire_a and_o that_o the_o disturber_n thereof_o may_v be_v exclude_v from_o their_o communion_n and_o in_o many_o other_o place_n cyprian_a be_v so_o pregnant_a in_o this_o point_n that_o whosoever_o shall_v allege_v he_o against_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n must_v either_o be_v a_o very_a ignorant_a reader_n of_o cyprian_a or_o else_o a_o wilful_a abuser_n of_o he_o reas._n vii_o note_v the_o effect_n if_o it_o shall_v be_v otherwise_o which_o be_v that_o every_o particular_a congregation_n must_v hence_o necessary_o loose_v she_o own_o proper_a right_n in_o government_n &_o so_o of_o a_o mistress_n become_v a_o servant_n instead_o of_o be_v superior_a wilful_o vassal_n and_o enslave_v herself_o which_o thing_n be_v contrary_a to_o god_n will_v reveal_v in_o his_o word_n gal._n 5.1_o 1._o cor._n 7.23_o 2._o tim._n 1.13_o heb._n 4.14_o rev._n 2.25_o answ._n i._n this_o reason_n be_v the_o same_o for_o substance_n with_o his_o nine_o argument_n before_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v here_o idle_o repeat_v ii_o the_o vassalage_n and_o slavery_n which_o he_o argue_v from_o classical_a government_n be_v upon_o a_o false_a consequence_n the_o liberty_n of_o innocent_a person_n oppress_v by_o wrong_a judgement_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n be_v to_o appeal_v unto_o class_n and_o synod_n the_o democraticall_a government_n that_o deny_v this_o liberty_n of_o appeal_n be_v no_o gracious_a mistress_n but_o a_o tyrannical_a virago_n resemble_v the_o romish_a lady_n that_o by_o deny_v appeal_n from_o the_o pope_n keep_v many_o in_o bondage_n iii_o the_o scripture_n cite_v by_o he_o be_v all_o pervert_v and_o misapply_v for_o what_o force_n of_o consequence_n be_v in_o these_o reason_n viz._n stand_v fast_o in_o the_o liberty_n wherewith_o christ_n have_v make_v we_o free_a etc._n etc._n gal._n 5.1_o therefore_o stand_v fast_o against_o appeal_n from_o particular_a congregation_n be_v not_o the_o servant_n of_o man_n 1._o cor._n 7.23_o therefore_o be_v subject_a to_o no_o ecclesiastical_a government_n save_v only_o to_o the_o democracie_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n hold_v fast_o the_o form_n of_o sound_a word_n etc._n etc._n 2._o tim._n 1.13_o therefore_o hold_v fast_o the_o independency_n of_o church_n let_v we_o hold_v fast_o our_o profession_n heb._n 4.14_o therefore_o hold_v fast_o the_o single_a uncompounded_a policy_n hold_v fast_o that_o which_o you_o have_v already_o etc._n etc._n rev._n 2.25_o therefore_o hold_v this_o fast_n that_o class_n and_o synod_n be_v only_o for_o counsel_n and_o not_o for_o authority_n to_o censure_n and_o judge_v what_o unsound_a inference_n and_o application_n of_o scripture_n be_v these_o mr_n can_n in_o his_o 9_o argument_n before_o 73._o before_o church_n plea_n p._n 73._o allege_v also_o 1._o thes_n 4.6_o 3._o joh._n 9_o prov._n 22.28_o deut._n 19.14_o together_o with_o gal._n 5.1_o mr_n dau._n also_o to_o like_a purpose_n 237._o purpose_n apol._n reply_n p._n 237._o allege_v some_o of_o these_o place_n to_o wit_n prov._n 22.28_o gal._n 5.1_o 3._o joh._n 9_o but_o they_o prove_v the_o question_n as_o little_a as_o the_o other_o for_o how_o vain_a be_v these_o consequence_n thou_o shall_v not_o remove_v the_o ancient_a bound_n prov._n 22.28_o therefore_o all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n be_v limit_v to_o a_o particular_a congregation_n and_o he_o remove_v the_o ancient_a bound_n that_o allow_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n or_o diotrephes_n love_v the_o pre-eminence_n 3._o joh._n 9_o therefore_o class_n and_o synod_n have_v no_o jurisdiction_n or_o power_n to_o judge_v and_o determine_v the_o matter_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n what_o weight_n be_v there_o in_o such_o reason_n as_o these_o reas._o viii_o see_v the_o apostle_n wheresoever_o they_o constitute_v any_o church_n with_o doctrine_n immediate_o establish_v in_o it_o 20._o it_o pol._n ecc._n l._n 1._o p._n 20._o ecclesiastical_a government_n for_o without_o this_o as_o d._n ames_n 214._o ames_n de_fw-fr conscience_n l._n 4._o c._n 24._o p._n 214._o say_v there_o can_v have_v be_v no_o couple_v of_o the_o part_n and_o member_n together_o it_o must_v needs_o follow_v that_o the_o primitive_a church_n be_v independent_a body_n and_o stand_v not_o under_o any_o other_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o now_o how_o mr_n paget_n will_v be_v able_a to_o prove_v a_o change_n of_o this_o government_n i_o do_v not_o yet_o see_v especial_o consider_v that_o the_o learned_a as_o i_o show_v before_o do_v hold_v that_o there_o be_v but_o one_o certain_a necessary_a &_o perpetual_a form_n &_o manner_n of_o order_v church_n etc._n etc._n answ._n 1_o the_o consequence_n propound_v in_o this_o reason_n be_v false_a though_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o constitution_n of_o church_n do_v immediate_o establish_v ecclesiastical_a government_n therein_o yet_o must_v it_o not_o needs_o follow_v that_o they_o be_v independent_a body_n etc._n etc._n for_o proof_n of_o this_o consequence_n he_o bring_v nothing_o but_o his_o bare_a assertion_n neither_o scripture_n nor_o testimony_n of_o any_o learned_a writer_n to_o prove_v a_o establishment_n of_o government_n in_o the_o primitive_a church_n at_o first_o he_o idle_o and_o needless_o allege_v mr_n parker_n and_o d._n ames_n to_o prove_v the_o perpetuity_n and_o unchangeablenes_n of_o that_o government_n which_o need_v no_o proof_n he_o needless_o according_a to_o his_o manner_n heap_n up_o testimony_n of_o calvin_n of_o p._n martyr_n of_o d._n bilson_n of_o the_o church_n of_o france_n of_o the_o low-countries_n of_o scotland_n and_o of_o papist_n also_o but_o to_o help_v his_o weak_a unsound_a consequence_n that_o need_v confirmation_n and_o support_n there_o be_v no_o proof_n nor_o show_v of_o proof_n ii_o though_o particular_a church_n in_o their_o several_a assembly_n be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v distinct_a body_n yet_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o entire_a and_o full_a communion_n of_o saint_n they_o be_v all_o member_n of_o one_o body_n there_o be_v but_o one_o body_n eph._n 4.4_o and_o those_o that_o be_v member_n of_o one_o body_n be_v not_o independent_a the_o scripture_n that_o show_v this_o unity_n and_o the_o duty_n arise_v from_o thence_o be_v just_o allege_v and_o lay_v down_o as_o the_o ground_n of_o combination_n and_o consociation_n of_o church_n and_o this_o foundation_n of_o classical_a communion_n be_v as_o ancient_a as_o the_o first_o constitution_n of_o church_n it_o appear_v hereby_o that_o the_o right_n of_o this_o confederation_n of_o church_n be_v in_o they_o from_o the_o beginning_n with_o liberty_n to_o use_v and_o exercise_v the_o same_o as_o occasion_n and_o opportunity_n shall_v permit_v mr_n cartwright_n be_v require_v to_o show_v scripture_n for_o the_o warrant_n of_o this_o practice_n of_o church_n answer_v 12._o answer_v t.c._n 2._o rep._n p_o 231._o rom._n 12._o 1._o cor._n 12._o the_o scripture_n i_o prove_v it_o by_o be_v that_o st_n paul_n when_o he_o teach_v that_o all_o the_o faithful_a be_v member_n of_o one_o mystical_a body_n of_o christ_n which_o ought_v to_o have_v a_o mutual_a care_n one_o of_o another_o lay_v the_o foundation_n of_o this_o polity_n for_o as_o in_o the_o body_n of_o one_o particular_a church_n every_o faithful_a man_n compare_v with_o another_o in_o the_o same_o be_v a_o member_n one_o of_o another_o so_o in_o a_o more_o general_a body_n of_o a_o whole_a realm_n every_o particular_a church_n compare_v with_o other_o be_v likewise_o a_o member_n of_o they_o therefore_o as_o nature_n teach_v my_o hand_n to_o help_v the_o disorder_n which_o be_v in_o another_o part_n of_o my_o body_n so_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n out_o of_o his_o word_n through_o a_o fellow-feeling_n teach_v one_o church_n to_o stretch_v out_o her_o hand_n to_o put_v away_o as_o it_o can_v the_o evil_a which_o it_o see_v approach_v unto_o another_o 3.13_o rom._n 15.14_o heb._n 3.13_o and_o therefore_o when_o the_o scripture_n will_v that_o one_o shall_v admonish_v another_o it_o be_v not_o only_o a_o commandment_n to_o every_o singular_a man_n towards_o his_o fellow_n but_o also_o to_o one_o whole_a company_n towards_o another_o society_n mr_n parker_n 95.96_o parker_n see_v before_o p._n 95.96_o allege_v the_o same_o ground_n out_o of_o zepperus_n who_o from_o thence_o derive_v the_o authority_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n in_o censure_v and_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o many_o church_n and_o cit_v many_o such_o place_n of_o scripture_n for_o proof_n thereof_o iii_o when_o the_o church_n of_o antioch_n bring_v her_o controversy_n unto_o the_o synod_n at_o jerusalem_n there_o be_v no_o change_n of_o government_n they_o have_v this_o right_n from_o the_o first_o though_o then_o especial_o it_o be_v manifest_v unto_o all_o for_o the_o actual_a exercise_n thereof_o upon_o
all_o sort_n the_o say_a word_n as_o they_o be_v write_v in_o their_o own_o letter_n be_v compare_v together_o either_o joint_o or_o several_o ii_o if_o the_o deacon_n may_v distribute_v some_o alm_n unto_o the_o poor_a without_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o whole_a congregation_n then_o may_v the_o elder_n also_o judge_v some_o cause_n without_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a therefore_o etc._n etc._n the_o consequence_n of_o the_o proposition_n be_v prove_v by_o this_o because_o the_o whole_a church_n have_v as_o much_o right_a &_o authority_n to_o dispose_v of_o the_o church-treasure_n &_o alm_n as_o they_o have_v to_o judge_v of_o the_o offence_n that_o be_v commit_v therein_o this_o the_o scripture_n show_v by_o the_o example_n of_o sundry_a church_n of_o antiochia_n macedonia_n achaia_n etc._n etc._n act._n 11.29_o 30._o rom._n 15_o 25-28_a 1._o cor._n 16.3.2_o cor._n 8.1.4.19_o phil._n 2.25_o with_o c._n 4.18_o the_o assumption_n be_v manifest_a and_o your_o own_o practice_n confirm_v it_o iii_o if_o arbiter_n choose_v by_o consent_n of_o some_o particular_a person_n may_v judge_v the_o cause_n of_o wrong_n &_o injury_n whether_o public_a or_o private_a wherein_o they_o strive_v against_o one_o another_o then_o may_v the_o elder_n choose_v by_o consent_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n judge_v the_o cause_n &_o offence_n that_o arise_v when_o they_o willing_o submit_v unto_o the_o same_o but_o arbiter_n so_o choose_v may_v judge_v the_o cause_n refer_v unto_o they_o therefore_o the_o elder_n may_v do_v it_o also_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o proposition_n appear_v because_o the_o free_a &_o solemn_a consent_n of_o the_o church_n in_o any_o election_n give_v authority_n unto_o such_o person_n either_o in_o general_a or_o special_a work_n as_o well_o as_o the_o choice_n of_o any_o particular_a man_n in_o their_o cause_n act._n 14.23_o &_o 2._o cor._n 8.19_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o assumption_n appear_v by_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostle_n give_v such_o power_n of_o judgement_n unto_o arbiter_n 1._o cor._n 6.4_o 5._o if_o you_o answer_v hereunto_o as_o you_o 43._o you_o h._n ain_n animadv_n to_o mr_n clyfton_n p._n 43._o elsewhere_o expound_v this_o place_n that_o these_o controversy_n to_o be_v refer_v unto_o arbiter_n be_v for_o civil_a thing_n of_o this_o life_n that_o such_o be_v not_o church-matter_n nor_o there_o to_o be_v hear_v etc._n etc._n this_o be_v insufficient_a and_o will_v not_o help_v you_o see_v it_o appear_v by_o the_o text_n that_o these_o controversy_n in_o corinth_n may_v as_o well_o have_v be_v say_v to_o be_v ecclesiastical_a cause_n as_o civil_a and_o belong_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n as_o of_o the_o magistrate_n or_o arbiter_n have_v their_o controversy_n be_v touch_v a_o wound_n or_o strike_v give_v touch_v any_o slander_n or_o theft_n which_o may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v ecclesiastical_a cause_n as_o belong_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o may_v the_o apostle_n have_v say_v unto_o they_o thereupon_o all_o that_o he_o do_v 1._o cor._n 6_o 1-9_a for_o 1._o these_o be_v business_n which_o infidel_n magistrate_n in_o those_o time_n use_v to_o judge_v and_o the_o general_a speech_n of_o the_o apostle_n import_v as_o much_o v._o 1._o &_o 6._o 2._o the_o reason_n which_o the_o apostle_n use_v take_v from_o the_o honour_n &_o dignity_n of_o saint_n in_o their_o judgement_n of_o angel_n &_o the_o world_n serve_v to_o perswado_v they_o to_o submit_v the_o judgement_n of_o such_o cause_n to_o one_o another_o mutual_o as_o well_o as_o any_o other_o cause_n v._o 2_o 3._o 3._o the_o reason_n take_v from_o their_o shame_n as_o if_o there_o be_v no_o wise_a man_n among_o they_o to_o judge_v these_o cause_n serve_v to_o reprove_v they_o for_o a_o want_n of_o wisdom_n in_o ecclesiastical_a thing_n as_o well_o as_o civil_a 4._o the_o matter_n of_o controversy_n among_o they_o be_v of_o wrong_n &_o injury_n do_v to_o brethren_n v._o 7_o 8_o 9_o and_o these_o be_v sin_n &_o scandal_n belong_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n as_o do_v the_o judgement_n of_o 5.7_o of_o 2._o cor._n 10.4_o 5_o 6._o 1._o cor._n 5.7_o all_o know_a sin_n this_o argument_n be_v in_o effect_n yield_v unto_o by_o yourself_o when_o you_o 9_o you_o h._n ain_n animadv_n to_o mr_n clyf_n ton_fw-fr p._n 9_o allow_v the_o article_n of_o the_o discipline_n agree_v upon_o in_o the_o reform_a english_a church_n which_o be_v at_o frankford_n in_o q._n mary_n day_n for_o whereas_o in_o the_o 62._o art_n thereof_o in_o case_n of_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n &_o other_o it_o be_v there_o conclude_v that_o the_o body_n of_o the_o congregation_n may_v appoint_v so_o many_o of_o the_o congregation_n to_o hear_v &_o determine_v the_o say_a matter_n or_o matter_n as_o it_o shall_v seem_v good_a unto_o the_o congregation_n hereupon_o in_o approbation_n of_o this_o discipline_n you_o observe_v that_o hereby_o the_o reader_n may_v see_v what_o the_o learned_a &_o most_o conscionable_a of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n hold_v heretofore_o which_o if_o they_o have_v continue_v in_o will_v have_v free_v they_o of_o all_o antichristian_a prelacy_n the_o bane_n of_o so_o many_o church_n and_o hereupon_o i_o observe_v further_o against_o you_o how_o the_o reader_n may_v hereby_o see_v that_o if_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n may_v appoint_v so_o many_o arbiter_n as_o they_o will_v to_o hear_v &_o determine_v matter_n then_o may_v the_o elder_n of_o the_o church_n receive_v this_o authority_n as_o well_o as_o any_o other_o then_o be_v it_o no_o unlawful_a usurpation_n for_o they_o to_o hear_v &_o determine_v some_o matter_n among_o the_o brethren_n by_o themselves_o iv_o if_o particular_a person_n may_v lawful_o pass_v by_o some_o lesser_a offence_n &_o leave_v they_o unto_o the_o conscience_n of_o the_o offender_n without_o prosecute_v they_o or_o bring_v they_o to_o the_o church_n for_o any_o judgement_n at_o all_o then_o may_v the_o church_n also_o leave_v some_o lesser_a offence_n unto_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o elder_n but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a therefore_o the_o second_o also_o the_o consequence_n of_o the_o proposition_n be_v prove_v because_o god_n do_v no_o more_o require_v the_o church_n to_o judge_v of_o sin_n make_v know_v unto_o the_o same_o than_o he_o do_v require_v particular_a person_n to_o prosecute_v and_o to_o deal_v against_o the_o offence_n make_v know_v unto_o they_o the_o scripture_n speak_v as_o full_o &_o give_v unto_o particular_a person_n as_o ample_a commission_n &_o charge_n to_o 19.17_o to_o mat._n 18.15_o 16_o 17._o leu._n 19.17_o admonish_v and_o complain_v of_o sin_n as_o it_o do_v unto_o the_o church_n to_o judge_v &_o censure_v the_o same_o the_o assumption_n be_v prove_v 1._o by_o express_v testimony_n of_o scripture_n that_o teach_v we_o to_o pass_v by_o some_o sin_n &_o offence_n and_o not_o to_o prosecute_v they_o prov._n 19.11_o eccl._n 7.21_o 2._o particular_a person_n be_v teach_v to_o love_v their_o neighbour_n as_o themselves_o &_o to_o do_v good_a unto_o all_o levit._fw-la 19.18_o matt._n 22.39_o rom._n 13.9_o gal._n 5.14_o jam._n 2.8_o be_v thereby_o bind_v to_o admonish_v they_o that_o be_v without_o those_o that_o be_v not_o member_n of_o the_o same_o church_n with_o they_o but_o of_o any_o other_o either_o true_a or_o false_a or_o of_o none_o now_o if_o this_o be_v to_o be_v do_v it_o follow_v necessary_o that_o the_o reproof_n of_o many_o lesser_a fault_n be_v to_o be_v omit_v because_o otherwise_o man_n can_v never_o discharge_v this_o duty_n neither_o will_v their_o time_n suffice_v to_o perform_v these_o duty_n of_o admonition_n to_o all_o such_o as_o they_o shall_v find_v subject_a thereunto_o both_o within_o the_o church_n &_o without_o yea_o suppose_v they_o have_v no_o other_o calling_n to_o attend_v upon_o yet_o can_v not_o the_o whole_a age_n of_o man_n be_v sufficient_a to_o testify_v effectual_o &_o in_o order_n against_o all_o such_o transgression_n which_o a_o intelligent_a person_n may_v discern_v to_o be_v commit_v daily_o before_o his_o eye_n both_o in_o private_a &_o public_a 3._o even_o yourself_o seem_v to_o acknowledge_v this_o also_o when_o touch_v the_o difference_n of_o offence_n you_o say_v 3_o say_v com._n of_o saint_n cap._n 22._o §_o 2._o &_o 3_o when_o offence_n arise_v it_o shall_v be_v our_o glory_n if_o we_o can_v pass_v they_o by_o as_o solomon_n have_v say_v but_o if_o the_o trespass_n be_v such_o as_o we_o may_v not_o but_o insist_v upon_o both_o for_o the_o honour_n of_o god_n who_o be_v offend_v &_o soul_n of_o the_o sinner_n which_o be_v endanger_v &_o our_o own_o or_o neighbour_n good_a who_o be_v endamage_v thereby_o then_o be_v we_o bind_v to_o admonish_v the_o trespasser_n hereof_o etc._n
do_v not_o follow_v from_o a_o particular_a that_o because_o the_o decree_n of_o a_o apostolical_a council_n be_v to_o be_v observe_v therefore_o the_o decree_n of_o all_o council_n must_v be_v so_o keep_v 16._o contr._n 3._o li._n 4._o cap._n 16._o and_o whereas_o bellarmine_n affirm_v that_o the_o question_n there_o be_v not_o define_v by_o scripture_n but_o by_o the_o voice_n of_o the_o apostle_n junius_n deny_v that_o any_o thing_n be_v ordain_v in_o that_o council_n but_o from_o the_o scripture_n as_o he_o have_v before_o demonstrate_v and_o thereunto_o refer_v the_o reader_n answ._n i._n it_o may_v be_v observe_v here_o how_o untrue_a it_o be_v which_o mr_n dau._n pretend_v in_o excuse_n of_o his_o large_a writing_n say_v reader_n say_v pref._n to_o the_o reader_n for_o the_o help_n of_o the_o reader_n in_o compare_v the_o reply_n with_o the_o answer_n i_o have_v insert_v his_o own_o word_n every_o where_n this_o have_v he_o not_o do_v here_o nor_o in_o many_o other_o place_n i_o show_v 88_o show_v answ_n to_o unj_fw-la compl_a p._n 88_o how_o this_o place_n act._n 15._o have_v be_v allege_v by_o another_o against_o the_o brownist_n and_o that_o this_o his_o allegation_n serve_v to_o condemn_v both_o himself_o and_o his_o fellow_n mr_n d._n have_v neither_o insert_v my_o own_o word_n nor_o yet_o the_o word_n of_o he_o that_o have_v allege_v this_o place_n ii_o in_o allege_v the_o two_o answer_n of_o junius_n unto_o bellarmine_n he_o wander_v wide_a from_o the_o question_n in_o hand_n i_o be_o of_o the_o same_o mind_n with_o junius_n in_o both_o those_o answer_n though_o the_o decree_n of_o that_o apostolical_a synod_n be_v infallible_o true_a and_o just_a yet_o be_v it_o not_o so_o with_o other_o synod_n many_o whereof_o be_v to_o be_v reject_v for_o their_o erroneous_a and_o unjust_a decree_n all_o the_o decree_n in_o that_o synod_n act._n 15._o be_v ground_v upon_o the_o scripture_n and_o rest_v not_o mere_o upon_o the_o suffrage_n of_o man_n junius_n have_v just_a cause_n so_o to_o answer_v bellarmine_n that_o maintain_v a_o unlawful_a and_o absolute_a authority_n of_o synod_n and_o exact_v obedience_n of_o necessity_n to_o all_o their_o decree_n be_v not_o this_o to_o abuse_v both_o i_o and_o his_o reader_n and_o to_o blear_v their_o eye_n that_o they_o shall_v not_o right_o discern_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n iii_o that_o the_o reader_n may_v better_o conceive_v in_o what_o manner_n a_o authority_n and_o power_n be_v asscribe_v to_o class_n and_o synod_n let_v the_o authority_n of_o particular_a church_n be_v consider_v as_o a_o example_n and_o model_n of_o that_o authority_n which_o be_v in_o synod_n my_o opposite_n themselves_o confess_v that_o there_o be_v in_o particular_a congregation_n a_o authority_n and_o power_n to_o judge_v and_o censure_v offender_n and_o yet_o they_o will_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o they_o may_v err_v in_o their_o judgement_n that_o they_o want_v such_o infallible_a direction_n as_o the_o apostle_n have_v and_o that_o their_o decree_n and_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n be_v to_o be_v regard_v no_o further_o than_o they_o be_v ground_v upon_o the_o scripture_n so_o be_v it_o with_o the_o authority_n of_o class_n &_o synod_n i._o dav_n 255._o dav_n apol._n reply_n p._n 255._o and_o whereas_o bellarmine_n say_v that_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v not_o leave_v to_o the_o examination_n of_o the_o disciple_n but_o that_o they_o be_v simple_o command_v to_o obey_v junius_n charge_v he_o with_o false_o suppose_v two_o thing_n 1._o that_o the_o apostle_n alone_o make_v this_o order_n for_o the_o elder_n concur_v with_o the_o apostle_n in_o this_o sentence_n and_o the_o whole_a church_n all_o of_o they_o be_v teach_v by_o the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n to_o think_v the_o same_o thing_n and_o this_o he_o say_v be_v the_o manner_n of_o proceed_v in_o those_o council_n where_o christ_n be_v president_n 2._o that_o the_o same_o respect_n be_v to_o be_v have_v to_o the_o determination_n of_o other_o as_o of_o the_o apostle_n which_o be_v a_o error_n he_o say_v for_o it_o be_v the_o singular_a privilege_n of_o the_o apostle_n that_o they_o have_v immediate_a assistance_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o infallibility_n in_o their_o apostolical_a determination_n so_o that_o what_o they_o deliver_v be_v to_o be_v receive_v without_o examination_n whereas_o the_o dictate_v and_o sentence_n of_o all_o other_o be_v to_o be_v examine_v by_o their_o writing_n whereby_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o scripture_n acknowledge_v no_o such_o power_n of_o make_v law_n to_o be_v due_a to_o the_o class_n unless_o they_o can_v produce_v some_o other_o text_n which_o when_o they_o shall_v be_v allege_v shall_v be_v further_o examine_v if_o god_n permit_v answ._n i._n all_o that_o mr_n davenp_n have_v here_o set_v down_o be_v whole_o impertinent_a and_o all_o be_v grant_v our_o assertion_n touch_v the_o lawful_a authority_n of_o synod_n &_o class_n remain_v firm_a we_o grant_v with_o junius_n 11._o junius_n animadv_n in_o bellarm_n contro_fw-la 4._o l._n 1._o c._n 18._o §_o 11._o that_o the_o apostle_n alone_o do_v not_o judge_v but_o the_o elder_a and_o other_o also_o concur_v with_o they_o not_o only_o in_o counsel_n but_o in_o give_v judicial_a sentence_n with_o they_o we_o grant_v that_o there_o be_v not_o the_o like_a respect_n to_o be_v have_v to_o the_o determination_n of_o other_o as_o of_o the_o apostle_n we_o grant_v that_o no_o such_o power_n of_o make_v law_n be_v due_a to_o class_n that_o be_v no_o such_o power_n of_o infallible_a determination_n etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o we_o hold_v they_o have_v a_o lawful_a authority_n of_o judge_v and_o decide_v controversy_n etc._n etc._n the_o like_a we_o hold_v concern_v particular_a church_n with_o their_o eldership_n we_o grant_v they_o have_v no_o such_o power_n of_o infallible_a determination_n and_o yet_o a_o lawful_a power_n to_o determine_v and_o judge_v of_o cause_n we_o grant_v that_o there_o be_v not_o the_o like_a respect_n to_o be_v have_v to_o the_o determination_n of_o particular_a church_n as_o of_o the_o apostle_n and_o yet_o a_o due_a respect_n not_o only_o for_o admonition_n and_o counsel_n but_o also_o for_o power_n to_o censure_n and_o to_o give_v sentence_n we_o grant_v that_o the_o censure_n sentence_n and_o judgement_n as_o well_o of_o eldership_n and_o church_n as_o of_o synod_n and_o class_n be_v in_o like_a manner_n to_o be_v try_v and_o examine_v by_o the_o scripture_n and_o yet_o this_o grant_n impeach_v not_o the_o lawful_a authority_n of_o either_o of_o they_o in_o exercise_v a_o power_n of_o judgement_n ii_o for_o the_o better_a direction_n how_o to_o discern_v &_o judge_v of_o the_o action_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o how_o far_o their_o example_n be_v a_o rule_n of_o practice_n and_o imitation_n to_o the_o church_n of_o god_n it_o shall_v not_o be_v amiss_o to_o set_v down_o a_o profitable_a and_o useful_a distinction_n observe_v by_o junius_n 6._o junius_n ibid._n lib._n 2._o c._n 16._o n._n 6._o which_o be_v that_o the_o apostle_n have_v a_o twofold_a manner_n of_o power_n common_a and_o proper_a the_o common_a be_v that_o ordinary_a power_n which_o they_o have_v together_o with_o the_o elder_n as_o they_o be_v bishop_n the_o proper_a or_o peculiar_a be_v that_o extraordinary_a power_n which_o be_v for_o a_o while_n give_v unto_o the_o evangelicall_n church_n at_o the_o spring_a up_o thereof_o in_o respect_n of_o which_o the_o apostle_n be_v above_o the_o whole_a church_n according_a to_o that_o common_a power_n peter_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o fellow_n elder_n 1._o pet._n 5.1_o according_a to_o this_o peculiar_a power_n he_o destroy_v ananias_n and_o sapphira_n act._n 5._o by_o that_o common_a power_n paul_n say_v 1._o cor._n 5.4_o you_o and_o my_o spirit_n be_v gather_v together_o in_o the_o name_n of_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n but_o by_o that_o peculiar_a power_n he_o say_v what_o will_v you_o shall_v i_o come_v unto_o you_o with_o a_o rod_n etc._n etc._n 1._o cor._n 4.20_o this_o he_o set_v down_o elsewhere_o more_o full_o and_o apply_v it_o to_o the_o power_n exercise_v act._n 15._o saying_n 1._o saying_n ibid._n l._n 1_o c._n 16._o n._n 1._o here_o the_o aposle_n be_v say_v to_o have_v use_v communication_n therefore_o this_o power_n be_v common_a to_o the_o church_n and_o not_o a_o peculiar_a action_n of_o the_o apostle_n in_o this_o synod_n at_o jerusalem_n we_o do_v therefore_o thus_o determine_v distinct_o concern_v this_o thing_n all_o that_o be_v furnish_v with_o gift_n and_o call_v judge_v in_o this_o synod_n first_o the_o apostle_n and_o apostolic_a man_n then_o the_o elder_n that_o labour_v in_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n as_o well_o they_o of_o the_o place_n in_o jerusalem_n as_o those_o of_o antioch_n &_o if_o any_o moreover_o
by_o this_o time_n i_o suppose_v say_v he_o the_o indifferent_a reader_n perceive_v that_o the_o scripture_n be_v every_o way_n for_o we_o and_o against_o mr_n paget_n in_o this_o controversy_n betwixt_o we_o now_o he_o shall_v do_v well_o see_v we_o dispute_v about_o a_o matter_n of_o faith_n appertain_v to_o life_n and_o salvation_n to_o rest_v in_o they_o as_o the_o only_a touch_n stone_n for_o trial_n of_o all_o truth_n but_o then_o further_o to_o make_v way_n for_o his_o new_a troop_n &_o legion_n of_o humane_a testimony_n against_o i_o and_o because_o this_o do_v not_o well_o suit_n with_o his_o profession_n that_o pretend_v so_o much_o warrant_n of_o scripture_n and_o to_o rely_v only_o upon_o it_o therefore_o he_o seek_v to_o take_v occasion_n from_o my_o word_n thereby_o to_o excuse_v his_o vain_a ostentation_n in_o allege_v so_o many_o writer_n and_o say_v notwithstanding_o consider_v he_o make_v so_o much_o a_o do_v about_o the_o multitude_n of_o learned_a and_o godly_a minister_n be_v of_o the_o same_o judgement_n and_o practice_n with_o he_o according_a as_o festus_n know_v paul_n to_o have_v appeal_v unto_o caesar_n do_v reasonable_o resolve_v say_v unto_o caesar_n shall_v thou_o go_v so_o i_o be_o well_o content_v to_o hear_v what_o reverend_a and_o judicious_a author_n do_v say_v herein_o and_o if_o mr_n paget_n will_v stand_v unto_o their_o testimony_n i_o doubt_v not_o but_o to_o make_v it_o manifest_a that_o as_o the_o scripture_n so_o they_o be_v also_o with_o we_o etc._n etc._n hereunto_o i_o answer_v 1._o in_o all_o my_o former_a answer_n i_o have_v not_o allege_v against_o they_o the_o testimony_n of_o any_o one_o author_n neither_o have_v i_o frame_v any_o argument_n draw_v from_o their_o word_n the_o word_n of_o my_o writing_n which_o he_o allege_v be_v only_o a_o part_n of_o a_o answer_n unto_o a_o slanderous_a accusation_n both_o of_o i_o and_o the_o classis_fw-la in_o a_o matter_n of_o fact_n wherein_o i_o show_v how_o unconscionable_o and_o without_o proof_n they_o wrong_v both_o i_o and_o a_o multitude_n of_o learned_a and_o godly_a minister_n be_v of_o the_o same_o judgement_n and_o practice_n i_o desire_v the_o reader_n to_o look_v upon_o the_o 73._o the_o answ_n to_o w.b._n p._n 73._o place_n and_o to_o judge_v thereof_o ii_o whereas_o he_o thereupon_o bring_v forth_o a_o army_n of_o papist_n and_o lutheran_n ancient_a father_n and_o late_a writer_n conformist_n &_o nonconformist_n etc._n etc._n though_o it_o be_v with_o less_o reason_n than_o festus_n send_v paul_n to_o caesar_n see_v i_o make_v no_o such_o appeal_n as_o paul_n do_v unto_o caesar_n yet_o i_o be_o content_a to_o follow_v he_o and_o to_o hear_v what_o his_o author_n do_v say_v and_o to_o show_v both_o how_o idle_o and_o needless_o he_o allege_v many_o of_o they_o to_o prove_v that_o which_o be_v not_o deny_v and_o also_o how_o he_o pervert_v and_o falsifyes_n their_o meaning_n allege_v they_o for_o that_o which_o be_v contrary_a both_o to_o their_o word_n and_o practice_n the_o several_a band_n of_o that_o army_n which_o mr_n can_v muster_v against_o we_o be_v these_o as_o he_o reckon_v they_o 78._o they_o churc_n plea_n p._n 78._o the_o allegation_n of_o the_o learned_a which_o i_o purpose_v here_o to_o set_v down_o shall_v be_v take_v 1._o from_o papist_n 2._o lutherians_n 3._o calvinist_n 4._o english_a conformist_n 5._o the_o nonconformist_n 6._o ancient_a writer_n and_o last_o the_o confession_n of_o reform_a church_n section_n i._n touch_v the_o testimony_n of_o papist_n have_v promise_v to_o produce_v the_o testimony_n of_o reverend_n and_o judicious_a author_n as_o he_o call_v they_o he_o bring_v in_o the_o papist_n and_o draw_v out_o the_o popish_a band_n in_o the_o first_o place_n against_o i_o when_o mr_n spr._n once_o heretofore_o have_v propound_v divers_a consideration_n unto_o they_o of_o the_o separation_n and_o among_o other_o thing_n the_o testimony_n and_o approbation_n give_v to_o the_o church_n of_o england_n by_o sundry_a learned_a man_n as_o bucer_n martyr_n fagius_n alasco_n knox_n calvine_n beza_n etc._n etc._n mr_n ainsworth_n answer_v 19_o answer_v counterp_v p._n 19_o though_o you_o come_v against_o we_o with_o horseman_n and_o charet_n yet_o we_o will_v remember_v the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n our_o god_n etc._n etc._n that_o which_o david_n speak_v of_o his_o refuge_n against_o the_o force_n of_o the_o heathenish_a prince_n psal_n 20.7_o he_o apply_v against_o these_o worthy_n which_o be_v indeed_o the_o horseman_n and_o charet_n of_o israel_n 2._o king_n 2.12_o &_o 13.14_o but_o that_o may_v i_o much_o more_o just_o apply_v unto_o mr_n can_n that_o allege_v against_o i_o and_o so_o unjust_o such_o a_o company_n of_o romanist_n the_o horseman_n and_o charet_n of_o antichrist_n the_o locust_n like_o horse_n prepare_v unto_o the_o battle_n rev._n 9.7_o and_o here_o first_o of_o all_o let_v it_o be_v consider_v what_o open_a wrong_n he_o do_v unto_o the_o papist_n bellarmine_n the_o rhemist_n etc._n etc._n in_o feign_v that_o they_o will_v not_o allow_v that_o government_n now_o which_o they_o acknowledge_v to_o have_v be_v use_v of_o old_a while_o he_o say_v howsoever_o romes-champion_n will_v have_v none_o now_o to_o meddle_v with_o church-government_n but_o priest_n bishop_n prelate_n etc._n etc._n yet_o they_o do_v acknowledge_v that_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n according_a to_o the_o precept_n of_o christ_n in_o mat._n 18._o offender_n after_o the_o first_o and_o second_o admonition_n be_v bring_v to_o the_o whole_a congregation_n etc._n etc._n this_o which_o he_o feign_v to_o be_v grant_v by_o they_o touch_v a_o diversity_n of_o government_n in_o respect_n of_o time_n can_v be_v just_o affirm_v for_o bellarmine_n in_o the_o place_n 5._o place_n deverbo_fw-la dei_fw-la l._n 3._o c._n 5._o allege_v by_o he_o plead_v for_o the_o same_o government_n to_o be_v use_v now_o which_o he_o show_v to_o have_v be_v ordain_v and_o confirm_v by_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n and_o to_o that_o end_n he_o allege_v 8_o or_o 9_o place_n of_o scripture_n out_o of_o the_o new_a testament_n as_o ground_n of_o the_o same_o government_n and_o in_o the_o 5_o the_o ibid._n c._n 5_o chapter_n follow_v he_o labour_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o same_o government_n have_v be_v still_o retain_v and_o practise_v ever_o since_o from_o the_o first_o age_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n unto_o this_o present_a the_o rhemist_n also_o 5._o also_o rhem._n on_o mat._n 18.17_o &_o 1_o cor._n 5._o derive_v the_o government_n which_o they_o now_o stand_v for_o from_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n and_o practice_v of_o the_o primitive_a church_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v untrue_a which_o he_o say_v viz._n that_o the_o papist_n acknowledge_v a_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o government_n institute_v at_o the_o first_o and_o that_o which_o be_v now_o maintain_v by_o they_o to_o prove_v this_o general_a assertion_n he_o allege_v a_o particular_a testimony_n of_o scultingius_n but_o that_o which_o be_v say_v of_o one_o can_v be_v asscribe_v unto_o all_o in_o such_o general_a term_n as_o he_o have_v do_v say_v of_o romes-champion_n they_o do_v acknowledge_v that_o which_o scultingius_n say_v whereas_o we_o see_v that_o the_o chief_a of_o they_o avouch_v the_o contrary_n this_o testimony_n of_o scultingius_n as_o it_o be_v absurd_o father_v upon_o the_o papist_n in_o general_a so_o it_o be_v unjust_o apply_v against_o we_o though_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n offender_n be_v impenitent_a be_v excommunicate_v with_o consent_n and_o approbation_n of_o all_o by_o the_o minister_n and_o though_o this_o testify_v the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n for_o which_o cause_n it_o be_v allege_v by_o mr_n parker_n from_o who_o it_o seem_v mr_n can_n have_v take_v this_o testimony_n at_o second_o hand_n together_o with_o his_o observation_n upon_o it_o touch_v the_o force_n of_o truth_n in_o a_o papist_n yet_o this_o prove_v not_o that_o the_o church_n be_v not_o subject_a to_o the_o censure_n of_o a_o superior_a judicatory_a if_o they_o do_v abuse_v their_o power_n mr_n parker_n draw_v no_o such_o consequence_n from_o this_o testimony_n to_o exclude_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n there_o be_v nothing_o say_v by_o scultingius_n here_o but_o it_o have_v always_o be_v observe_v in_o our_o church_n offender_n be_v not_o excommunicate_v as_o be_v impenitent_a before_o they_o have_v be_v denounce_v as_o this_o author_n phrase_n be_v or_o complain_v of_o by_o give_v notice_n of_o their_o estate_n unto_o the_o whole_a church_n before_o who_o also_o the_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n be_v pronounce_v and_o this_o our_o manner_n be_v allow_v by_o mr_n park_n be_v sometime_o one_o of_o we_o as_o i_o show_v 105._o show_v p._n 105._o before_o as_o for_o saravia_n and_o schola_fw-la parisiensis_fw-la who_o he_o allege_v together_o in_o the_o next_o place_n
he_o call_v those_o decree_n of_o the_o council_n of_o basile_n 1218._o basile_n p._n 1218._o catholic_n or_o universal_a truth_n whereby_o it_o be_v enact_v 1._o that_o the_o power_n of_o a_o general_n council_n represent_v the_o whole_a church_n be_v above_o the_o pope_n and_o every_o other_o person_n 2._o that_o the_o pope_n can_v dissolve_v a_o general_n council_n without_o their_o consent_n etc._n etc._n 3._o that_o he_o that_o do_v obstinate_o oppose_v the_o foresay_a truth_n be_v to_o be_v account_v a_o heretic_n he_o relate_v &_o commend_v the_o speech_n of_o etc._n of_o p._n 1010._o etc._n etc._n marsilius_n patavinus_n etc._n patavinus_n p._n 1232_o etc._n etc._n petrus_n de_fw-it alliaco_fw-it and_o divers_a other_o show_v the_o power_n of_o counsel_n in_o judge_v and_o censure_v the_o pope_n the_o necessity_n of_o they_o both_o provincial_n and_o general_n for_o the_o correct_v of_o abuse_n and_o amend_v of_o all_o sort_n of_o person_n and_o thing_n with_o great_a authority_n he_o approve_v and_o defend_v 1341._o defend_v p._n 1341._o the_o renown_a italian_a martyr_n hieronimus_fw-la savanorola_fw-it for_o seek_v that_o a_o general_n council_n may_v be_v call_v for_o reformation_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o degenerate_a estate_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n beside_o this_o he_o be_v in_o his_o time_n a_o principal_a favourer_n &_o maintainer_n of_o the_o discipline_n in_o the_o french_a church_n where_o the_o cause_n of_o particular_a congregation_n be_v judge_v and_o determine_v by_o synod_n can_v therefore_o be_v no_o favourer_n of_o the_o brownist_n opinion_n which_o count_v such_o government_n to_o be_v a_o miserable_a bondage_n and_o slavery_n of_o the_o church_n tilenus_n that_o be_v also_o call_v to_o be_v one_o of_o their_o jury_n against_o i_o do_v most_o express_o give_v his_o verdict_n on_o my_o side_n against_o the_o brownist_n he_o teach_v 1._o teach_v syntag._n disp_n theol._n par_fw-fr 2._o disp_n â—0_n thes_n 1._o that_o the_o fourfold_a power_n of_o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v exercise_v not_o only_o in_o presbytery_n but_o also_o in_o counsel_n or_o synod_n that_o 4._o that_o thes_n 4._o synod_n according_a to_o the_o power_n grant_v of_o god_n unto_o his_o church_n may_v take_v knowledge_n of_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n and_o by_o their_o judgement_n confer_v together_o according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n may_v define_v etc._n etc._n &_o 19_o &_o th._n 19_o give_v ministerial_a sentence_n etc._n etc._n and_o further_o he_o say_v 38._o say_v th._n 38._o as_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v hope_v for_o that_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n militant_a on_o earth_n shall_v be_v free_a from_o divers_a disease_n so_o we_o may_v not_o think_v that_o it_o can_v want_v this_o remedy_n of_o synod_n which_o we_o therefore_o affirm_v to_o be_v not_o only_o lawful_a but_o also_o necessary_a bastingius_n show_v how_o excommunication_n pertain_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n say_v nothing_o but_o that_o which_o be_v practise_v both_o in_o our_o and_o other_o reform_a church_n of_o these_o country_n especial_o if_o it_o be_v mark_v how_o he_o explain_v himself_o in_o the_o leaf_n follow_v where_o he_o add_v that_o 85._o that_o expos_fw-la catech._n qu._n 85._o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n and_o excommunication_n itself_o ought_v to_o be_v administer_v by_o they_o who_o be_v ordain_v thereunto_o of_o the_o church_n such_o as_o be_v minister_n of_o the_o word_n and_o elder_n the_o rest_n of_o the_o church_n consent_v thereunto_o yet_o with_o this_o correction_n that_o the_o multitude_n of_o the_o people_n do_v not_o rule_v the_o action_n but_o provide_v as_o watchman_n that_o nothing_o be_v do_v by_o a_o few_o as_o they_o listen_v themselves_o beside_o he_o be_v a_o member_n &_o minister_n of_o these_o church_n and_o regent_n of_o a_o college_n in_o leyden_n there_o be_v no_o reason_n from_o these_o his_o word_n to_o conclude_v against_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n in_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o particular_a congregation_n if_o they_o either_o can_v not_o agree_v among_o themselves_o or_o shall_v agree_v in_o evil_n for_o than_o he_o shall_v have_v condemn_v his_o own_o estate_n and_o practice_n which_o yet_o can_v be_v infer_v from_o this_o his_o testimony_n vrfinus_n also_o though_o he_o teach_v that_o the_o unrepentant_a be_v to_o be_v excommunicate_v by_o the_o common_a consent_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n yet_o do_v he_o not_o thereby_o deny_v or_o exclude_v the_o power_n of_o synod_n in_o judge_v of_o that_o which_o be_v do_v in_o particular_a congregation_n but_o do_v plain_o give_v testimony_n with_o i_o for_o 686._o for_o tom._n 2._o admo_fw-la chr._n de_fw-fr lib._n concord_n c._n 12._o col_fw-fr 686._o have_v show_v the_o condition_n and_o necessity_n of_o synod_n he_o say_v of_o they_o this_o remedy_n for_o the_o heal_n of_o the_o wound_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o to_o be_v neglect_v which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v show_v unto_o we_o by_o the_o counsel_n and_o example_n of_o the_o apostle_n which_o all_o reason_n of_o divine_a and_o humane_a right_n require_v which_o be_v lawful_o use_v experience_n have_v prove_v to_o be_v most_o wholesome_a for_o the_o church_n in_o many_o most_o grievous_a confusion_n of_o opinion_n neither_o be_v this_o his_o private_a opinion_n but_o 478_o but_o ibid._n tit._n &_o col._n 478_o write_v in_o the_o name_n of_o other_o divine_n &_o minister_n in_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o prince_n casimir_n and_o approve_v by_o they_o piscator_fw-la say_v excommunication_n be_v a_o decree_n of_o the_o church_n &_o therefore_o aught_o to_o be_v do_v of_o the_o church_n 3._o church_n in_o 1._o cor._n 5._o obs_n 1._o art_n 3._o or_o of_o the_o eldership_n judge_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n we_o grant_v as_o much_o or_o more_o in_o the_o practice_n of_o our_o church_n while_o the_o eldership_n never_o exercise_v such_o power_n alone_o without_o the_o knowledge_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o church_n by_o propound_v the_o same_o divers_a time_n unto_o they_o but_o it_o be_v a_o pervert_n of_o this_o testimony_n to_o gather_v from_o hence_o that_o the_o action_n of_o the_o church_n or_o eldership_n be_v not_o subject_a to_o the_o judgement_n of_o synod_n if_o they_o be_v complain_v of_o for_o wrong_n and_o that_o piscator_fw-la allow_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n 6._o synod_n in_o act._n 15._o obser_n in_o v._o 6._o to_o judge_v the_o controversy_n of_o religion_n and_o to_o 72._o to_o thes_n theol._n vol._n 1._o loc._n 23._o de_fw-fr eccl._n the_o 68_o &_o 72._o make_v decree_n by_o gather_v of_o voice_n in_o order_n it_o be_v evident_a from_o other_o of_o his_o writing_n calvine_n require_v the_o 15._o the_o instit_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 1._o sec_fw-la 15._o cognition_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n before_o any_o be_v excommunicate_a require_v no_o more_o than_o be_v hold_v and_o practise_v by_o we_o and_o this_o be_v no_o impeachment_n to_o he_o and_o our_o opinion_n with_o he_o that_o in_o case_n of_o doubt_n or_o controversy_n 13._o controversy_n ibid._n c._n 9_o sec_fw-la 13._o there_o be_v no_o better_a nor_o more_o certain_a remedy_n then_o that_o a_o synod_n of_o true_a bishop_n meet_v together_o where_o the_o controversy_n may_v be_v discuss_v for_o such_o a_o definition_n shall_v have_v much_o more_o weight_n where_o the_o pastor_n of_o church_n in_o common_a do_v agree_v together_o etc._n etc._n and_o this_o he_o there_o confirm_v both_o by_o scripture_n and_o sundry_a example_n of_o ancient_a church_n show_v that_o from_o the_o beginning_n it_o be_v the_o ordinary_a way_n of_o preserve_a unity_n in_o the_o church_n so_o often_o as_o satan_n begin_v to_o attempt_v any_o thing_n beside_o this_o not_o to_o speak_v of_o other_o testimony_n afford_v by_o calvine_n to_o this_o purpose_n when_o as_o mr_n can_v 94._o can_v ch._n pl._n p._n 94._o afterward_o note_v the_o assertion_n of_o divers_a plead_n for_o the_o hierarchy_n of_o bishop_n and_o oppugn_v ecclesiastical_a government_n by_o class_n and_o synod_n as_o a_o weed_n of_o late_a growth_n say_v that_o at_o geneva_n subject_v of_o church_n first_o begin_v and_o before_o calvine_n come_v there_o every_o congregation_n be_v free_a in_o itself_o if_o these_o assertion_n be_v true_a and_o that_o none_o be_v able_a to_o disprove_v they_o as_o mr_n can_v there_o suppose_v how_o come_v it_o that_o he_o thus_o pervert_v mr_n calvine_v testimony_n against_o his_o profession_n and_o practice_v let_v the_o reader_n observe_v that_o if_o these_o assetion_n be_v sound_a mr_n can_n may_v as_o well_o have_v write_v a_o book_n to_o prove_v the_o miserable_a bondage_n and_o slavery_n of_o the_o church_n at_o geneva_n procure_v by_o the_o tyrannical_a government_n and_o corrupt_a doctrine_n of_o mr_n calvine_n as_o he_o write_v the_o like_a title_n of_o a_o unjust_a complaint_n upon_o the_o like_a ground_n against_o i_o paraeus_n
man_n of_o sin_n with_o these_o testimony_n of_o ancient_a father_n mr_n can_n allege_v for_o his_o opinion_n that_o some_o counsel_n have_v grant_v so_o much_o and_o christian_a emperor_n by_o their_o law_n confirm_v it_o two_o of_o these_o viz._n the_o council_n of_o nice_a &_o constantinople_n he_o allege_v at_o large_a and_o specifyes_n no_o canon_n which_o he_o intend_v for_o this_o purpose_n and_o as_o for_o the_o 3_o council_n of_o carthage_n whereat_o augustine_n be_v present_a i_o have_v show_v 223._o show_v pa._n 223._o before_o that_o it_o make_v direct_o for_o we_o that_o 22_o canon_n which_o he_o allege_v viz._n 868._o viz._n magdeb._n cent._n 4._o c._n 9_o col_fw-fr 868._o that_o no_o clerk_n be_v or_o dain_v without_o examination_n by_o bishop_n and_o testimony_n of_o the_o people_n impeach_v not_o the_o authority_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n but_o confirm_v the_o order_n establish_v by_o they_o and_o that_o christian_a emperor_n have_v by_o their_o law_n confirm_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n it_o be_v plain_a and_o undeniable_a the_o 2_o the_o sulp._n se._n five_o s._n hist_o l._n 2_o council_n of_o nice_a that_o condemn_a arius_n be_v authorise_v by_o constantine_n the_o great_a the_o 162._o the_o sulp._n s._n hist_o conâ—in_n ex_fw-la sleyd_n p._n 162._o council_n of_o constantinople_n that_o condemn_v macedonius_n be_v authorise_v by_o the_o emperor_n theodosius_n the_o elder_a the_o 164._o the_o p._n 164._o council_n of_o ephesus_n that_o condemn_v nestorius_n be_v authorise_v by_o theodosius_n the_o young_a the_o 170._o the_o p._n 170._o council_n of_o chalcedon_n that_o condemn_v eutyches_n be_v authorise_v by_o the_o emperor_n martianus_n and_o as_o it_o be_v in_o these_o first_o general_n counsel_n so_o may_v it_o be_v observe_v in_o many_o other_o instead_o of_o the_o rest_n let_v the_o just_a the_o codex_fw-la canon_n ecc._n uniu._n edit_n christ_n just_a book_n of_o canon_n suffice_v confirm_v by_o justinian_n the_o emperor_n there_o be_v contain_v in_o that_o book_n many_o canon_n which_o ordain_v that_o the_o cause_n of_o particular_a church_n shall_v be_v 85._o be_v can._n 5_o 80_o 83_o 85._o judge_v by_o synod_n and_o so_o decide_v by_o another_o superior_a ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o at_o the_o end_n of_o these_o canon_n there_o be_v add_v the_o sanction_n or_o decree_n of_o justinian_n 131._o justinian_n novella_n consti_fw-la just_a imper._n 131._o by_o which_o he_o do_v not_o only_o allow_v they_o and_o give_v force_n of_o law_n unto_o they_o but_o with_o a_o excessive_a &_o far_o great_a honour_n than_o be_v due_a unto_o they_o will_v have_v the_o four_o ecumenical_a counsel_n to_o be_v receive_v even_o as_o the_o holy_a scripture_n now_o though_o he_o offend_v great_o in_o this_o his_o esteem_n of_o they_o yet_o this_o may_v serve_v to_o show_v what_o little_a reason_n mr_n can_n have_v to_o allege_v the_o decree_n of_o counsel_n for_o his_o opinion_n sect_n vii_o touch_v the_o testimony_n of_o reform_a church_n from_o ancient_a time_n they_o come_v back_o to_o the_o late_a time_n of_o reformation_n and_o say_v 91._o say_v ch._n pl._n p._n 91._o touch_v reform_a church_n if_o we_o may_v take_v the_o confession_n of_o their_o faith_n for_o testimony_n then_o sure_o we_o have_v their_o consent_n also_o with_o we_o the_o church_n consent_v with_o they_o as_o they_o vain_o imagine_v be_v these_o according_a to_o their_o order_n in_o allege_v of_o they_o the_o bohemian_a church_n church_n under_o the_o palsgrave_n the_o helvetian_a church_n the_o french_a church_n church_n of_o the_o auspurge_n confession_n of_o the_o low-countries_n of_o nasovia_n but_o the_o truth_n be_v both_o these_o and_o other_o reform_a church_n do_v condemn_v my_o oppisite_n in_o allow_v of_o synod_n to_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o particular_a congregation_n the_o confession_n of_o the_o bohemian_a church_n say_v they_o have_v these_o word_n 14._o word_n harm_n conf._n c._n 14._o the_o key_n that_o be_v ecclesiastical_a government_n be_v give_v in_o trust_n and_o grant_v to_o the_o pastor_n and_o to_o each_o several_a ecclesiastical_a society_n that_o be_v ordinary_a congregation_n whether_o they_o be_v small_a or_o great_a i_o answer_v i._n this_o testimony_n be_v clip_v by_o mr_n can_n who_o leave_v out_o the_o word_n of_o order_n which_o show_v their_o opinion_n touch_v the_o original_n and_o derivation_n of_o this_o power_n the_o word_n of_o this_o bohemian_a confession_n be_v that_o the_o key_n of_o the_o lord_n or_o this_o administration_n and_o power_n of_o the_o key_n be_v grant_v and_o deliver_v first_o unto_o the_o governor_n and_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n and_o then_o unto_o every_o christian_a congregation_n etc._n etc._n therein_o they_o do_v not_o consent_v with_o mr_n can_n but_o with_o the_o opinion_n of_o mr_n baines_n note_v 115._o note_v p._n 114_o 115._o before_o and_o they_o do_v there_o also_o apply_v these_o word_n unto_o absolution_n give_v by_o the_o priest_n of_o the_o church_n as_o they_o call_v he_o to_o this_o end_n they_o allege_v those_o place_n joh._n 20.23_o &_o luk._n 10.16_o their_o meaning_n be_v declare_v more_o full_o before_o where_o they_o 1612._o they_o harmo_n confess_v art_n 5._o de_fw-la poenit._fw-la p._n 241._o edit_n 1612._o teach_v that_o the_o penitent_a be_v to_o come_v unto_o the_o priest_n and_o to_o confess_v their_o sin_n unto_o god_n before_o he_o etc._n etc._n and_o to_o desire_v absolution_n of_o he_o by_o the_o key_n of_o the_o church_n that_o they_o may_v obtain_v remission_n of_o sin_n by_o such_o a_o ministry_n so_o institute_v of_o christ._n this_o order_n seem_v to_o agree_v with_o that_o form_n of_o absolution_n describe_v and_o appoint_v in_o the_o english_a book_n of_o common_a prayer_n at_o the_o visitation_n of_o the_o sick_a 11._o it_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o picard_n so_o call_v in_o bohemia_n and_o moravia_n in_o the_o 219._o the_o p._n 219._o preface_n to_o the_o forementioned_a confession_n of_o their_o faith_n that_o their_o father_n have_v appeal_v unto_o a_o synod_n etc._n etc._n where_o if_o any_o thing_n shall_v be_v find_v dissonant_n from_o the_o scripture_n they_o be_v willing_a from_o the_o heart_n and_o love_o to_o be_v subject_a and_o obedient_a to_o the_o censure_n and_o appointment_n of_o the_o synod_n in_o all_o thing_n this_o show_v their_o dissent_n from_o mr_n can_n and_o his_o people_n iii_o the_o combination_n of_o the_o christian_a and_o orthodox_n church_n in_o bohemia_n and_o moravia_n call_v by_o themselves_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o brethren_n in_o bohemia_n do_v give_v a_o clear_a testimony_n unto_o the_o truth_n touch_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n for_o the_o government_n of_o particular_a church_n and_o judgement_n of_o their_o cause_n by_o a_o superior_a ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o as_o appear_v in_o the_o book_n of_o their_o discipline_n where_o they_o 38._o they_o ratio_fw-la discip_n ordinisq_fw-la ecc._n in_o unitate_fw-la frat_fw-la bohem._n c._n 2._o p._n 33.34_o &_o 38._o profess_v that_o for_o weighty_a cause_n in_o provide_v for_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o whole_a unity_n or_o some_o diocese_n therein_o they_o use_v to_o hold_v synod_n either_o general_n or_o particular_a etc._n etc._n they_o allege_v these_o 5_o end_n to_o confirm_v brotherly_a love_n and_o concord_n to_o strengthen_v they_o in_o the_o work_n of_o the_o lord_n to_o preserve_v the_o vigour_n of_o discipline_n to_o exclude_v scandalous_a person_n out_o of_o the_o number_n of_o their_o minister_n etc._n etc._n to_o ordain_v minister_n etc._n etc._n and_o for_o the_o 41._o the_o ib._n p._n 41._o examination_n of_o minister_n before_o they_o be_v confirm_v the_o exercise_n of_o this_o authority_n be_v also_o declare_v in_o their_o etc._n their_o ib._n cap._n 6._o p._n 87_o 88_o etc._n etc._n visitation_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v in_o their_o unity_n or_o consociation_n this_o example_n of_o these_o brethren_n of_o the_o unity_n be_v so_o much_o the_o more_o to_o be_v regard_v of_o we_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o singular_a providence_n &_o blessing_n of_o god_n in_o preserve_v they_o to_o this_o day_n in_o the_o midst_n of_o so_o many_o persecution_n as_o they_o have_v endure_v be_v more_o ancient_a than_o other_o reform_a church_n have_v continue_v from_o the_o day_n of_o john_n husse_n and_o be_v holpen_v by_o the_o waldenses_n that_o be_v scatter_v into_o those_o part_n so_o that_o they_o 3._o they_o ib._n pref_o p._n 2_o 3._o be_v increase_v to_o almost_o 200_o little_a congregation_n in_o bohemia_n &_o moravia_n about_o the_o year_n 1500_o before_o the_o time_n of_o luther_n their_o piety_n love_n concord_n and_o zeal_n of_o religion_n notwithstanding_o some_o imperfection_n appear_v by_o their_o order_n to_o be_v very_o great_a in_o special_a their_o care_n of_o sanctify_v the_o
then_o without_o great_a presumption_n feign_v they_o to_o be_v say_v at_o another_o time_n &_o place_n have_v no_o warrant_n of_o scripture_n for_o the_o same_o i_o know_v indeed_o that_o 12.1_o that_o r._n solomon_n jarchi_n on_o gen._n 12.1_o some_o of_o your_o rabbin_n who_o do_v so_o often_o mislead_v you_o do_v write_v that_o this_o call_n be_v from_o charran_n but_o their_o authority_n be_v too_o light_a to_o rest_v upon_o it_o they_o will_v have_v nun_n the_o last_o letter_n of_o the_o word_n 11.32_o word_n in_o gen._n 11.32_o charran_n to_o be_v write_v with_o the_o head_n of_o it_o downward_o and_o the_o low_a part_n of_o it_o upward_o contrary_a to_o the_o order_n to_o show_v ibid._n show_v r._n sol._n ibid._n that_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n burn_v until_o abram_n one_o of_o your_o author_n according_a to_o his_o cabalistical_a art_n 12.1_o art_n baal_n hatturim_fw-la on_o gen._n 12.1_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o numeral_a letter_n of_o the_o word_n arecha_fw-mi use_v in_o the_o call_n of_o abram_n gen._n 12.1_o do_v yield_v the_o same_o number_n that_o begnananim_fw-la do_v which_o signifi_v by_o the_o cloud_n to_o teach_v we_o that_o the_o cloud_n go_v before_o he_o &_o show_v he_o the_o way_n in_o his_o journey_n and_o the_o inversion_n of_o this_o nun_n haphueah_a be_v as_o well_o &_o as_o worthy_a to_o be_v observe_v for_o matter_n of_o meditation_n &_o instruction_n as_o be_v the_o great_a &_o little_a letter_n which_o you_o 1.1_o you_o annot._n on_o gen._n 23.2_o &_o 34.31_o &_o leu._n 1.1_o mention_v for_o like_a use_n you_o tell_v we_o in_o the_o same_o place_n that_o the_o hebrew_n doctor_n expound_v the_o name_n charran_n by_o charon_n aph_n that_o be_v wrathful_a anger_n r._n menachem_n on_o gen._n 12._o as_o if_o he_o be_v now_o to_o depart_v from_o the_o place_n of_o wrath_n etc._n etc._n but_o if_o you_o have_v allege_v the_o place_n more_o plain_o &_o full_o the_o vanity_n of_o that_o rabbine_n will_v thereby_o have_v appear_v while_o he_o say_v that_o 12.4_o that_o r._n menachem_n on_o gen._n 12.4_o when_o abram_n go_v to_o give_v his_o influence_n or_o abundance_n unto_o the_o high_a land_n lot_z go_v with_o he_o for_o that_o land_n be_v to_o receive_v from_o they_o both_o and_o the_o word_n lot_n be_v from_o levatin_n which_o signifi_v curse_n and_o this_o at_o his_o go_v from_o charan_n the_o word_n charon_n signifi_v anger_n this_o be_v the_o vain_a conceit_n contain_v in_o the_o allegation_n which_o you_o send_v we_o unto_o &_o compare_v with_o so_o many_o place_n of_o scripture_n and_o suppose_v charan_n be_v denominate_v of_o anger_n yet_o this_o will_v not_o prove_v that_o the_o calling_n gen._n 12.1_o be_v from_o charan_n again_o it_o appear_v to_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o other_o 12.1_o other_o chazkuni_fw-la come_v on_o gen._n 12.1_o aben_n ezra_n on_o gen._n 11._o &_o 12.1_o rabbin_n that_o this_o call_n of_o abram_n gen._n 12.1_o be_v from_o ur_fw-la of_o the_o chaldee_n before_o he_o come_v to_o charan_n and_o beside_o these_o the_o judgement_n of_o learned_a ibid._n learned_a merc._n on_o gen._n 12._o trem._n &_o jun._n annot_v ibid._n calv._n &_o musc_n come_v ibid._n christian_n be_v herein_o against_o you_o and_o more_o to_o be_v respect_v then_o the_o jewish_a doctor_n who_o you_o so_o much_o follow_v 3._o beside_o other_o thing_n how_o gross_a be_v that_o error_n when_o you_o write_v 12.5_o write_v annot._n on_o gen._n 12.5_o that_o the_o land_n of_o canaan_n be_v a_o country_n in_o asia_n the_o less_o etc._n etc._n it_o appear_v not_o by_o the_o scripture_n that_o abram_n ever_o come_v into_o asia_n the_o less_o and_o have_v he_o go_v thither_o to_o seek_v canaan_n he_o shall_v never_o have_v find_v that_o land_n unto_o which_o he_o be_v call_v of_o god_n this_o your_o error_n of_o misplace_a canaan_n be_v reprove_v not_o only_o by_o the_o general_a testimony_n of_o the_o chief_a 43._o chief_a ptol._n geogr._n lib._n 5._o c._n 2._o asiae_n tab_v 1._o strab._n geogr._n l._n 12._o plin._n hist_o nat_n l._n 5._o c._n 27_o solin_n polyh_n c._n 43._o geographer_n but_o also_o by_o the_o evidence_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n which_o do_v often_o &_o plain_o distinguish_v these_o country_n &_o make_v it_o very_o manifest_a that_o canaan_n be_v not_o a_o country_n in_o asia_n the_o less_o as_o you_o say_v act._n 2.9_o &_o 16.6_o &_o 20.16.1_o pet._n 1.1_o touch_v your_o allegation_n of_o gen._n 13.6_o 7_o 8._o we_o read_v there_o of_o the_o riches_n of_o abram_n and_o lot_n of_o the_o strife_n betwixt_o their_o servant_n of_o the_o canaanite_n and_o perizzites_n dwell_v in_o the_o land_n of_o abraham_n care_n to_o avoid_v strife_n but_o how_o you_o will_v conclude_v your_o separation_n from_o hence_o together_o with_o the_o people_n power_n in_o excommunication_n who_o can_v imagine_v or_o comprehend_v it_o we_o will_v fain_o see_v what_o face_n of_o a_o argument_n you_o can_v paint_v out_o unto_o we_o from_o this_o allegation_n and_o as_o for_o exo._n 5.3_o where_o moses_n &_o aaron_n tell_v pharaoh_n how_o the_o god_n of_o the_o hebrew_n meet_v they_o how_o they_o desire_v to_o go_v three_o day_n journey_n into_o the_o wilderness_n to_o do_v sacrifice_n and_o of_o the_o danger_n of_o pestilence_n or_o sword_n to_o come_v upon_o they_o if_o they_o do_v it_o not_o by_o what_o consequence_n will_v you_o maintain_v your_o separation_n from_o hence_o and_o by_o what_o second_o consequence_n will_v you_o then_o demonstrate_v the_o people_n authority_n from_o this_o separation_n here_o employ_v as_o you_o write_v these_o thing_n do_v yet_o lie_v hide_v wrap_v up_o in_o darkness_n that_o man_n can_v discern_v what_o you_o mean_v thereby_o it_o be_v a_o strange_a folly_n in_o matter_n of_o so_o great_a controversy_n so_o bare_o to_o allege_v such_o a_o number_n of_o scripture_n which_o seem_v not_o so_o much_o as_o to_o look_v towards_o the_o point_n of_o the_o question_n in_o hand_n and_o this_o your_o fault_n be_v so_o much_o the_o great_a in_o that_o yond_o can_v find_v time_n &_o leisure_n to_o note_n and_o publish_v so_o many_o other_o idle_a and_o unproffitable_a thing_n as_o when_o in_o the_o explication_n of_o this_o verse_n you_o set_v down_o those_o dotage_n of_o maimony_n about_o the_o pestilence_n deber_n which_o have_v no_o weight_n in_o they_o no_o ground_n or_o colour_n of_o truth_n why_o do_v you_o not_o rather_o manifest_v your_o separation_n from_o hence_o if_o it_o be_v here_o teach_v as_o you_o say_v for_o the_o clear_n of_o your_o cause_n &_o pluck_v other_o out_o of_o the_o darkness_n &_o shadow_n of_o death_n wherein_o according_a to_o your_o profession_n they_o do_v remain_v chap._n four_o whether_o the_o people_n be_v bind_v to_o be_v present_a at_o the_o proceed_n against_o offender_n a_o nother_n error_n concern_v the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n be_v this_o that_o you_o hold_v the_o people_n bind_v to_o be_v present_a at_o the_o conviction_n of_o sinner_n &_o trial_n of_o cause_n though_o mr_n johnson_n 41.42_o johnson_n advertis_fw-la of_o mr_n clyft_n p._n 41.42_o leave_v it_o free_a for_o any_o of_o the_o people_n to_o come_v if_o they_o will_v yet_o you_o 42.43_o you_o animadv_n p._n 42.43_o hold_v not_o that_o sufficient_a unless_o they_o be_v bind_v to_o come_v &_o to_o hear_v the_o proceed_n against_o the_o liberty_n of_o be_v absent_a or_o present_v you_o allege_v many_o thing_n and_o plead_v as_o follow_v h._n ainsw._n be_v not_o this_o to_o divide_v the_o body_n when_o the_o head_n must_v be_v present_a &_o the_o shoulder_n with_o the_o other_o part_n and_o member_n may_v be_v absent_a answ._n it_o be_v no_o division_n in_o the_o body_n mystical_a when_o the_o head_n labour_v for_o the_o good_a of_o the_o body_n though_o some_o member_n thereof_o be_v absent_a no_o more_o than_o there_o be_v a_o division_n or_o disunion_n among_o the_o friend_n that_o consult_v for_o the_o comfort_n of_o one_o another_o though_o not_o present_a no_o more_o than_o there_o be_v betwixt_o the_o state_n of_o these_o land_n &_o the_o people_n thereof_o when_o the_o state_n meet_v apart_o to_o determine_v some_o thing_n without_o the_o people_n no_o more_o than_o there_o be_v a_o division_n when_o the_o elder_n at_o jerusalem_n meet_v apart_o without_o the_o people_n act._n 21_o 18-25_a h._n ainsw._n the_o apostle_n write_v to_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n how_o to_o do_v when_o they_o come_v together_o for_o the_o lord_n supper_n 1._o cor._n 11.18_o 33._o write_v also_o to_o they_o how_o when_o they_o be_v gather_v together_o they_o shall_v deliver_v the_o wicked_a unto_o satan_n 1._o cor._n 5.4_o 5._o we_o find_v no_o difference_n but_o they_o be_v bind_v to_o come_v to_o the_o one_o as_o to_o the_o other_o and_o if_o they_o answer_v they_o be_v bind_v
he_o carry_v from_o the_o consistory_n to_o the_o classis_fw-la be_v of_o the_o same_o nature_n with_o those_o cause_n between_o blood_n &_o blood_n between_o law_n &_o commandment_n statute_n &_o judgement_n which_o be_v defer_v to_o the_o levite_n the_o priest_n etc._n etc._n answ._n i._o it_o be_v here_o also_o to_o be_v note_v how_o instead_o of_o disprove_v that_o which_o i_o say_v and_o instead_o of_o show_v any_o dissimilitude_n of_o the_o question_n bring_v unto_o the_o classis_fw-la from_o those_o bring_v unto_o the_o judicatories_n deut._n 17.2_o chron._n 19_o he_o leave_v his_o accusation_n without_o proof_n ii_o as_o for_o the_o proof_n he_o require_v it_o be_v most_o plain_a and_o evident_a from_o the_o place_n allege_v for_o in_o they_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o about_o whatsoever_o cause_n there_o be_v any_o strife_n or_o contention_n in_o israel_n it_o may_v be_v bring_v unto_o the_o judicatories_n there_o mention_v all_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n all_o matter_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v to_o be_v bring_v unto_o the_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n over_o which_o amariah_n be_v precedent_n all_o civil_a affair_n all_o matter_n of_o the_o king_n be_v to_o be_v bring_v unto_o the_o civil_a judgement_n over_o which_o zebadiah_n be_v precedent_n 2._o chron._n 19.11_o and_o what_o controversy_n can_v there_o be_v in_o any_o church_n or_o estate_n that_o may_v not_o be_v reduce_v to_o one_o of_o these_o junius_n in_o his_o exposition_n of_o these_o place_n 11._o place_n anal._n expl._n &_o annot_n on_o deut._n 17.8_o &_o 2._o chron._n 19.8_o 11._o plain_o distinguish_v these_o cause_n &_o question_n on_o this_o manner_n again_o whereas_o 2._o chron._n 19_o vers_fw-la 10._o there_o be_v express_v and_o general_a mention_n of_o any_o cause_n whatsoever_o about_o which_o there_o may_v be_v controversy_n between_o law_n &_o commandment_n statute_n &_o judgement_n i_o will_v demand_v of_o mr_n dau._n what_o cause_n can_v be_v except_v or_o exempt_v from_o these_o judicatories_n be_v there_o ever_o any_o controversy_n or_o any_o contention_n in_o any_o church_n which_o have_v not_o reference_n to_o some_o law_n or_o commandment_n and_o see_v mr_n dau._n himself_n in_o these_o dispute_n pretend_v the_o law_n and_o commandment_n against_o we_o do_v not_o these_o question_n therefore_o be_v of_o such_o nature_n belong_v unto_o such_o judicatories_n see_v judicatory_n be_v therefore_o original_o institute_v to_o take_v away_o strife_n &_o dissension_n as_o in_o civil_a cause_n deut._n 1.12_o so_o also_o in_o ecclesiastical_a deut._n 17.2_o chron._n 19_o and_o withal_o see_v the_o cause_n in_o question_n etc._n etc._n have_v be_v special_a mean_n and_o cause_n of_o discord_n among_o we_o why_o shall_v not_o these_o matter_n be_v bring_v unto_o these_o judicatories_n for_o trial_n and_o judgement_n as_o well_o as_o other_o and_o therefore_o whether_o those_o scripture_n above_o mention_v have_v be_v by_o i_o misapply_v or_o not_o i_o leave_v to_o the_o consideration_n of_o they_o that_o be_v able_a to_o judge_v chap._n iii_o the_o second_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n matth._n 18_o 15-20_a the_o second_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o that_o rule_n of_o discipline_n deliver_v by_o christ_n unto_o his_o disciple_n for_o the_o government_n of_o his_o church_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n mat._n 18.15_o 16_o 17_o 18_o 19_o 20._o from_o this_o rule_n we_o may_v reason_v divers_a way_n and_o chief_o thus_o if_o this_o rule_n of_o christ_n be_v the_o same_o that_o be_v prescribe_v unto_o israel_n of_o old_a and_o be_v translate_v from_o the_o jew_n synagogue_n unto_o the_o christian_a church_n then_o be_v not_o these_o church_n independent_a then_o be_v they_o not_o single_a uncompounded_a policy_n then_o be_v not_o all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n limit_v within_o the_o compass_n of_o particular_a congregation_n then_o can_v appeal_n unto_o superior_a judicatories_n be_v just_o deny_v but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a therefore_o the_o second_o also_o the_o assumption_n of_o this_o argument_n be_v deny_v by_o many_o kind_n of_o opposite_n h._n barrow_n cry_v out_o against_o it_o 76._o it_o refut_o of_o giff._n p._n 76._o be_v it_o likely_a or_o possible_a that_o our_o saviour_n christ_n will_v fetch_v his_o pattern_n for_o the_o elder_n of_o his_o church_n &_o the_o execution_n of_o these_o high_a judgement_n from_o that_o corrupt_a degenerate_a synedrion_n of_o the_o jew_n which_o by_o the_o institution_n of_o god_n be_v mere_o civil_a and_o not_o ordain_v for_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a as_o appear_v exod._n 18._o num._n 11._o deut._n 1._o the_o priest_n bear_v the_o charge_n &_o have_v the_o decide_n of_o all_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n num._n 18._o deut._n 17._o but_o this_o council_n of_o they_o be_v now_o mix_v of_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o people_n and_o the_o priest_n &_o handle_v all_o cause_n both_o civil_a &_o ecclesiastical_a indifferent_o matt._n 26.3_o act._n 4.5_o how_o unjust_o and_o ungodly_a they_o deal_v may_v appear_v by_o their_o handle_n our_o saviour_n and_o his_o apostle_n from_o time_n to_o time_n now_o as_o their_o be_v no_o likeness_n to_o collect_v these_o surmise_n from_o that_o place_n so_o be_v there_o no_o one_o circumstance_n in_o that_o scripture_n to_o lead_v thereunto_o mr_n ainsworth_n will_v persuade_v that_o 18._o that_o animadv_n p._n 18._o christ_n doctrine_n in_o matt._n 18.18_o be_v a_o new_a rule_n which_o israel_n have_v not_o and_o think_v it_o will_v be_v good_a for_o man_n to_o yield_v unto_o this_o persuasion_n mr_n smith_n that_o decline_v unto_o anabaptism_n speak_v of_o the_o order_n observe_v in_o the_o old_a testament_n say_v 75._o say_v parall_a cens_fw-la observe_v sect._n 8._o p._n 75._o the_o lord_n do_v not_o then_o require_v man_n to_o proceed_v with_o their_o brethren_n in_o three_o degree_n of_o admonition_n and_o so_o to_o bring_v they_o to_o the_o acknowledgement_n of_o their_o sin_n and_o repentance_n that_o be_v the_o lord_n dispensation_n for_o the_o new_a testament_n but_o the_o lord_n order_n for_o those_o time_n be_v 1._o reproof_n for_o sin_n leu._n 19.17_o 2._o the_o party_n reprooved_a be_v to_o offer_v a_o sacrifice_n which_o if_o he_o do_v he_o be_v cleanse_v from_o his_o sin_n visible_o levit._n 4.23_o 3._o if_o the_o wilful_o refuse_v to_o hearken_v he_o be_v to_o be_v promote_v to_o the_o magistrate_n and_o put_v to_o death_n for_o his_o presumption_n numb_a 15.30_o 31._o deut._n 17.12_o this_o be_v the_o lord_n oecconmie_n for_o those_o time_n when_o this_o order_n be_v violate_v than_o all_o communion_n be_v defile_v while_o it_o be_v observe_v all_o be_v well_o in_o the_o visible_a communion_n let_v any_o man_n declare_v the_o contrary_a if_o he_o be_v able_a thus_o he_o challenge_v all_o man_n in_o the_o confidence_n of_o this_o opinion_n that_o christ_n give_v a_o new_a rule_n mr_n jacob_n speak_v of_o this_o rule_n mat._n 18._o say_v 278.279_o say_v attest_n c._n 8._o p._n 278.279_o the_o jewish_a church-government_n can_v be_v here_o allude_v unto_o much_o less_o require_v to_o be_v keep_v &_o practise_v by_o christian_n concern_v which_o together_o with_o all_o other_o jewish_a ordinance_n the_o apostle_n teach_v and_o confirm_v unto_o we_o that_o all_o those_o old_a thing_n be_v pass_v away_o and_o that_o all_o thing_n of_o such_o nature_n under_o the_o gospel_n be_v make_v new_a 2._o cor._n 5.17_o and_o that_o the_o same_o thing_n be_v shake_v and_o change_v and_o remain_v not_o now_o unto_o we_o heb._n 12.27_o now_o on_o the_o contrary_a to_o show_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o assumption_n against_o these_o and_o the_o like_a denial_n thereof_o and_o to_o prove_v that_o christ_n give_v no_o new_a rule_n but_o the_o very_a same_o for_o substance_n which_o be_v give_v former_o to_o the_o jew_n let_v we_o consider_v it_o in_o the_o several_a part_n thereof_o &_o so_o by_o induction_n from_o they_o demonstrate_v that_o which_o be_v affirm_v by_o we_o ______o in_o that_o rule_n of_o christ_n mat._n 18_o 15-20_a we_o have_v describe_v to_o we_o 1._o three_o degree_n of_o admonition_n 2._o a_o censure_n upon_o contempt_n of_o admonition_n 3._o a_o confirmation_n of_o that_o censure_n the_o first_o degree_n of_o admonition_n be_v most_o private_a betwixt_o the_o person_n admonish_v and_o the_o person_n offend_v alone_o vers_fw-la 15._o this_o be_v no_o new_a commandment_n but_o teach_v of_o old_a both_o general_o in_o the_o equity_n of_o the_o law_n to_o love_v our_o neighbour_n as_o ourselves_o leu._n 19.18_o and_o more_o special_o to_o show_v this_o love_n by_o admonition_n in_o the_o rebuke_n of_o sin_n leu._n 19.17_o and_o that_o with_o secrecy_n prov._n 11.13_o &_o 25.9_o and_o further_o as_o christ_n describe_v the_o person_n offend_v by_o the_o name_n of_o a_o brother_n to_o show_v in_o what_o love_a manner_n this_o duty_n be_v to_o be_v perform_v to_o he_o
and_o for_o the_o stop_n of_o the_o mouth_n of_o such_o deceiver_n as_o pretend_v they_o be_v send_v by_o the_o apostle_n vers_fw-la 24._o in_o a_o word_n that_o no_o suspicion_n may_v remain_v in_o the_o mind_n of_o the_o people_n as_o if_o paul_n in_o doctrine_n differ_v from_o the_o rest_n answ._n i._n mr_n can_v corrupt_v and_o falsify_v the_o word_n of_o mr_n cartwright_n by_o add_v unto_o they_o this_o word_n only_o though_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n go_v up_o to_o confer_v yet_o the_o word_n of_o mr_n cartw._n be_v not_o only_o they_o go_v up_o to_o confer_v as_o here_o they_o be_v allege_v again_o those_o word_n that_o follow_v which_o mr_n can_v set_v down_o in_o such_o a_o letter_n as_o if_o mr_n cartw._n have_v speak_v word_n for_o word_n in_o such_o manner_n viz._n for_o countenance_n of_o the_o truth_n in_o respect_n of_o man_n and_o for_o the_o stop_n of_o the_o mouth_n of_o such_o deceiver_n as_o pretend_v they_o be_v send_v by_o the_o apostle_n v._n 24._o these_o be_v the_o word_n of_o mr_n robinson_n 199._o robinson_n justif_n of_o sepat_o p._n 199._o verbatim_o &_o take_v out_o of_o his_o writing_n and_o therefore_o ought_v rather_o to_o have_v be_v allege_v in_o his_o name_n then_o in_o mr_n cartwright_n ii_o though_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n go_v up_o for_o such_o end_n as_o be_v here_o propound_v for_o countenance_v of_o the_o truth_n etc._n etc._n yet_o those_o end_n do_v not_o argue_v that_o therefore_o the_o synod_n at_o jerusalem_n do_v not_o exercise_v ecclesiastical_a authority_n in_o give_v definitive_a sentence_n touch_v the_o controversy_n bring_v unto_o they_o see_v those_o end_n be_v more_o effectual_o and_o full_o obtain_v thereby_o for_o by_o such_o judicial_a sentence_n the_o truth_n be_v countenance_v before_o man_n and_o the_o mouth_n of_o deceyver_n more_o effectual_o stop_v and_o suspicion_n of_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o apostle_n more_o clear_o take_v away_o iii_o though_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n go_v not_o up_o to_o submit_v their_o judgement_n to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o apostle_n yet_o this_o hinder_v not_o their_o go_v to_o procure_v that_o the_o judgement_n of_o those_o deceyver_n which_o have_v trouble_v the_o church_n of_o antioch_n and_o likewise_o that_o the_o judgement_n of_o such_o as_o have_v be_v make_v to_o doubt_v by_o they_o may_v be_v submit_v unto_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o apostle_n or_o that_o those_o deceyver_n may_v be_v censure_v by_o the_o synod_n if_o after_o conviction_n they_o shall_v persist_v in_o their_o evil_n iv_o that_o which_o mr_n cartw._n speak_v of_o p._n and_o barn_n not_o submit_v their_o judgement_n unto_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o apostle_n as_o if_o it_o will_v have_v diminish_v the_o authority_n of_o their_o doctrine_n etc._n etc._n be_v to_o be_v understand_v as_o i_o conceive_v as_o speak_v by_o way_n of_o opposition_n to_o the_o rhemist_n and_o other_o papist_n against_o who_o he_o deal_v who_o say_v as_o well_o concern_v paul_n and_o barnabas_n as_o concern_v the_o other_o deceiver_n 15.2_o deceiver_n rhem._n on_o act._n 15.2_o that_o they_o do_v not_o stand_v stiff_o to_o their_o own_o opinion_n on_o either_o side_n but_o condescend_v to_o refer_v the_o whole_a controversy_n and_o the_o determination_n thereof_o to_o the_o apostle_n priest_n or_o ancient_n etc._n etc._n who_o hold_v from_o jerome_n that_o 133_o that_o rainol_n conf._n with_o hart._n c._n 4._o div_o 3._o p._n 133_o paul_n have_v not_o have_v security_n of_o preach_v the_o gospel_n unless_o it_o have_v be_v approve_v by_o the_o sentence_n of_o peter_n and_o of_o the_o rest_n that_o be_v with_o he_o such_o a_o submission_n may_v have_v diminish_v the_o authority_n of_o their_o doctrine_n and_o therefore_o be_v not_o to_o be_v acknowledge_v otherwise_o there_o be_v even_o in_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o a_o lawful_a submission_n unto_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n 1._o peter_n himself_o as_o junius_n well_o 5._o well_o animadv_n in_o bell._n de_fw-fr council_n l._n 2._o c._n 16._o §_o 5._o observe_v judicio_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la subjicitur_fw-la atque_fw-la ad_fw-la cam_fw-la remittitur_fw-la voce_fw-la christi_fw-la jubentis_fw-la dic_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la mat._n 18._o &_o alibi_fw-la that_o be_v he_o be_v subject_v unto_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n &_o send_v unto_o it_o by_o the_o voice_n of_o christ_n command_v tell_v the_o church_n mat._n 18._o &_o elsewhere_o d._n whitaker_n also_o 172._o also_o contro_fw-la de_fw-fr council_n qu._n 5._o c._n 3._o p._n 172._o affirm_v and_o confirm_v the_o same_o thing_n concern_v peter_n and_o why_o may_v it_o not_o be_v say_v of_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n as_o well_o as_o of_o he_o 2._o see_v paul_n and_o barnabas_n be_v certain_a that_o the_o apostle_n do_v agree_v with_o they_o in_o judgement_n and_o can_v not_o err_v in_o their_o sentence_n they_o know_v that_o the_o same_o shall_v not_o diminish_v the_o authority_n of_o their_o doctrine_n but_o rather_o magnify_v and_o illustrate_v the_o same_o i._o can._n iii_o if_o jerusalem_n lie_v northward_o 200_o mile_n from_o antioch_n as_o i_o read_v 96._o read_v itiner_n n._n test_n fol._n 96._o it_o do_v sure_o then_o he_o have_v small_a reason_n to_o bring_v this_o scripture_n as_o the_o ground_n and_o foundation_n of_o the_o classical_a assembly_n yea_o and_o to_o tell_v we_o 88_o we_o pag._n 88_o that_o it_o be_v a_o remarkable_a place_n of_o scripture_n to_o warrant_v the_o exercise_n of_o that_o power_n which_o we_o deny_v and_o a_o little_a after_o this_o one_o allegation_n be_v sufficient_a to_o evince_v the_o falsehood_n of_o their_o assertion_n answ._n i._n he_o mistake_v and_o so_o pervert_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o author_n who_o he_o allege_v direct_o contrary_a to_o his_o express_a word_n who_o 1635._o who_o itiner_n n.t._n p._n 66._o &_o 82._o edit_n 1624._o &_o p._n 82._o &_o 101._o edit_n 1635._o in_o divers_a place_n of_o this_o book_n as_o be_v to_o be_v see_v in_o the_o several_a edition_n say_v not_o as_o it_o be_v allege_v that_o jerusalem_n lie_v northward_o from_o antioch_n but_o on_o the_o contrary_a that_o antioch_n lie_v northward_o from_o jerusalem_n so_o uncircumspect_a be_v he_o in_o his_o quotation_n ii_o suppose_v it_o have_v be_v write_v in_o his_o author_n so_o as_o he_o allege_v it_o yet_o than_o it_o be_v a_o great_a simplicity_n and_o want_n of_o judgement_n in_o he_o that_o can_v not_o of_o himself_o have_v correct_v such_o a_o manifest_a and_o palpable_a error_n have_v he_o have_v a_o very_a small_a measure_n of_o knowledge_n in_o the_o geographical_a description_n of_o the_o holy_a land_n and_o the_o country_n border_v thereupon_o without_o the_o knowledge_n whereof_o man_n can_v well_o understand_v the_o story_n of_o the_o bible_n there_o be_v so_o many_o reference_n which_o the_o h._n ghost_n have_v unto_o the_o different_a situation_n of_o several_a place_n than_o may_v he_o have_v know_v that_o jerusalem_n lie_v southward_o and_o antioch_n northward_o from_o jerusalem_n for_o 1._o the_o common_a geographer_n etc._n geographer_n cl._n ptol._n asiae_n tab_v 4._o atlas_n merc._n etc._n etc._n old_a and_o new_a of_o all_o sort_n do_v bear_v witness_v hereof_o in_o their_o map_n and_o ordinary_a description_n of_o the_o world_n and_o those_o part_n thereof_o 2._o have_v he_o go_v no_o further_o but_o look_v well_o on_o this_o story_n act._n 15._o where_o the_o messenger_n travel_v from_o antioch_n to_o jerusalem_n be_v say_v in_o their_o way_n to_o pass_v through_o phaenice_n and_o samaria_n he_o may_v have_v observe_v that_o as_o those_o country_n in_o the_o way_n lie_v northward_o from_o jerusalem_n so_o must_v antioch_n also_o from_o whence_o in_o the_o right_a way_n they_o come_v to_o those_o country_n let_v other_o be_v admonish_v hereby_o that_o they_o rash_o follow_v not_o such_o a_o guide_n that_o will_v be_v a_o great_a master_n and_o teacher_n of_o the_o church_n and_o yet_o as_o the_o wise_a man_n note_v know_v not_o the_o way_n to_o the_o city_n eccles_n 10.15_o iii_o i_o do_v willing_o grant_v that_o antioch_n be_v 200_o mile_n from_o jerusalem_n those_o 70_o dutch_a mile_n which_o this_o author_n mention_n according_a to_o common_a account_n make_v 280_o english_a mile_n 80_o more_o than_o mr_n can_n reckon_v now_o the_o further_a that_o antioch_n be_v from_o jerusalem_n the_o strong_a be_v this_o our_o argument_n from_o act._n 15._o the_o great_a pain_n they_o take_v in_o travel_n to_o come_v unto_o another_o superior_a judicatory_a out_o of_o themselves_o do_v argue_v the_o great_a necessity_n of_o synod_n and_o show_v that_o the_o fruit_n expect_v thereby_o be_v the_o more_o precious_a in_o their_o eye_n the_o deputy_n of_o the_o church_n that_o come_v to_o the_o late_a synod_n at_o dort_n from_o geneva_n zurich_n and_o berne_n travel_v further_o than_o these_o antiochian_o do_v and_o of_o old_a
at_o home_n and_o in_o matter_n of_o judgement_n see_v justice_n be_v to_o be_v do_v to_o one_o person_n as_o well_o as_o to_o a_o multitude_n jer._n 21.12_o &_o 22.3_o esa_n 58.6_o amos_n 5.12.24_o therefore_o if_o one_o person_n think_v himself_o oppress_v by_o a_o particular_a church_n the_o liberty_n of_o appeal_n be_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v he_o iii_o whereas_o they_o say_v hence_o our_o divine_n teach_v etc._n etc._n who_o do_v they_o mean_v by_o this_o phrase_n our_o divine_n do_v w._n b._n mean_v the_o arminian_n divine_v unto_o who_o he_o have_v decline_v and_o be_v become_v one_o of_o their_o disciple_n do_v mr_n c._n mean_v the_o divine_n of_o the_o separation_n the_o communion_n of_o other_o divine_n be_v renounce_v by_o they_o and_o these_o also_o be_v such_o that_o if_o a_o whole_a church_n together_o shall_v agree_v to_o refer_v their_o controversy_n unto_o the_o judgement_n of_o a_o synod_n they_o hold_v it_o to_o be_v a_o antichristian_a bondage_n do_v they_o mean_v mr_n parker_n who_o they_o allege_v immediate_o before_o and_o unto_o who_o they_o seem_v to_o have_v reference_n by_o that_o ambiguous_a quotation_n so_o set_v down_o in_o the_o margin_n as_o if_o it_o belong_v unto_o that_o which_o go_v before_o yet_o he_o be_v but_o one_o and_o none_o of_o they_o mr_n parker_n say_v indeed_o 338._o indeed_o pol._n eccl._n p._n 338._o there_o that_o this_o delegation_n and_o power_n of_o delegate_a be_v not_o in_o one_o bishop_n but_o in_o the_o church_n themselves_o he_o speak_v of_o that_o communication_n of_o church_n when_o some_o deal_n with_o other_o concern_v any_o ecclesiastical_a business_n by_o send_v their_o delegate_n or_o messenger_n unto_o they_o which_o power_n of_o send_v delegate_n in_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n he_o prove_v to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n itself_o and_o not_o in_o any_o one_o bishop_n in_o opposition_n unto_o the_o hierarchy_n who_o will_v have_v such_o business_n to_o be_v do_v by_o themselves_o and_o in_o their_o own_o name_n that_o which_o mr_n parker_n say_v be_v no_o way_n contrary_a unto_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o class_n and_o synod_n where_o the_o deputy_n and_o delegate_n of_o the_o church_n appear_v in_o the_o name_n of_o those_o several_a church_n from_o which_o they_o be_v send_v acknowledge_v the_o power_n of_o their_o delegation_n to_o be_v derive_v unto_o they_o from_o the_o same_o mr_n c._n and_o w._n b._n confound_v these_o two_o thing_n which_o be_v to_o be_v distinguish_v viz._n the_o deal_n in_o church_n affair_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n which_o they_o only_o be_v allow_v to_o do_v who_o be_v choose_v of_o the_o church_n and_o design_v thereunto_o and_o the_o propound_v of_o personal_a grievance_n in_o case_n of_o appeal_n or_o complaint_n touch_v any_o thing_n that_o be_v amiss_o which_o as_o we_o say_v before_o be_v free_a unto_o every_o officer_n and_o member_n of_o the_o church_n when_o he_o can_v otherwise_o be_v satisfy_v he_o do_v it_o still_o in_o his_o own_o name_n now_o both_o these_o may_v be_v understand_v by_o that_o their_o phrase_n of_o bring_v thing_n from_o one_o congregation_n to_o another_o whereas_o mr_n parker_n mean_v only_o the_o former_a as_o be_v plain_a by_o his_o whole_a discourse_n in_o the_o place_n mention_v though_o mr_n c._n and_o w._n b._n will_v fain_o apply_v it_o unto_o the_o latter_a as_o appear_v by_o the_o inference_n which_o thence_o they_o make_v against_o i_o but_o for_o this_o their_o opinion_n they_o can_v show_v any_o one_o word_n of_o god_n nor_o any_o one_o divine_a whereas_o i_o have_v the_o 37.41_o the_o pag._n 37.41_o witness_n of_o both_o iv_o touch_v the_o accusation_n of_o i_o in_o particular_a that_o i_o have_v bring_v matter_n to_o the_o classis_fw-la without_o consent_n of_o the_o consistory_n or_o any_o one_o of_o they_o etc._n etc._n how_o earnest_n soever_o they_o be_v both_o in_o the_o line_n and_o in_o the_o margin_n to_o load_v i_o with_o double_a rebuke_n yet_o their_o own_o word_n fall_v upon_o they_o and_o while_o they_o seek_v to_o accuse_v they_o excuse_v i_o rather_o for_o if_o it_o be_v as_o they_o say_v than_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o matter_n i_o take_v in_o hand_n be_v such_o as_o may_v stand_v firm_a upon_o trial_n and_o examination_n by_o the_o deputy_n minister_n and_o elder_n of_o many_o church_n when_o as_o the_o contrary_a proceed_n be_v all_o undo_v and_o come_v to_o nothing_o and_o yet_o it_o be_v also_o false_a which_o they_o say_v of_o the_o church_n consent_n the_o matter_n be_v never_o propound_v unto_o the_o church_n nor_o their_o consent_n require_v or_o ask_v notwithstanding_o all_o that_o be_v do_v by_o some_o particular_a person_n the_o complaint_n and_o reproach_n with_o which_o they_o make_v up_o their_o 6_o exception_n be_v not_o worth_a the_o answer_n the_o testimony_n of_o the_o english_a church_n at_o franekford_n be_v afterward_o to_o be_v consider_v i._o can._n vii_o the_o thing_n then_o and_o there_o conclude_v be_v divine_a scripture_n impose_v upon_o all_o other_o church_n of_o the_o gentile_n although_o they_o have_v no_o delegate_n there_o v._o 22_o 28._o ch_z 16.4_o answ._n i._n the_o argument_n be_v not_o take_v from_o the_o infallibility_n of_o truth_n that_o be_v in_o the_o decree_n of_o this_o synod_n but_o from_o the_o order_n according_a to_o which_o they_o be_v make_v and_o the_o person_n determine_v the_o thing_n that_o be_v then_o and_o there_o conclude_v be_v such_o as_o do_v not_o all_o belong_v unto_o that_o particular_a congregation_n where_o the_o controversy_n be_v raise_v ii_o though_o the_o decree_n in_o that_o synod_n be_v ground_v upon_o the_o scripture_n as_o i_o grant_v 66._o grant_v pag._n 66._o before_o yet_o they_o can_v not_o be_v say_v to_o be_v divine_a scripture_n until_o they_o be_v by_o luke_n record_v among_o the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n neither_o be_v it_o manifest_v unto_o all_o that_o they_o be_v according_a to_o the_o scripture_n until_o it_o be_v conclude_v in_o the_o synod_n for_o else_o it_o have_v be_v in_o vain_a to_o have_v repair_v thither_o for_o this_o resolution_n iii_o he_o that_o will_v seem_v to_o say_v 69._o say_v pag._n 69._o before_o out_o of_o d._n whit._n that_o this_o assembly_n do_v bind_v only_o but_o in_o a_o special_a or_o particular_a meeting_n do_v now_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o thing_n then_o and_o there_o conclude_v do_v bind_v all_o other_o church_n of_o the_o gentile_n be_v impose_v upon_o they_o all_o to_o be_v observe_v by_o they_o it_o be_v true_a indeed_o that_o the_o decree_n of_o this_o synod_n be_v direct_v and_o deliver_v unto_o several_a church_n of_o the_o gentile_n where_o the_o observation_n of_o they_o be_v judge_v to_o be_v necessary_a not_o only_o because_o they_o be_v by_o infallible_a direction_n from_o the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o reason_n be_v employ_v by_o mr_n robinson_n from_o whence_o this_o and_o the_o substance_n of_o most_o of_o the_o former_a exception_n be_v borrow_v when_o he_o add_v 199._o add_v justif_n of_o sep._n p._n 199._o and_o so_o impose_v upon_o all_o other_o church_n etc._n etc._n but_o beside_o because_o the_o apostle_n be_v chief_a judge_n in_o this_o synod_n who_o as_o i_o have_v show_v often_o 72._o often_o pag._n 62_o 72._o before_o be_v as_o delegate_n from_o all_o the_o church_n in_o which_o respect_n as_o be_v also_o note_v 69._o note_v pag._n 69._o out_o of_o mr_n cartwright_n this_o synod_n may_v be_v account_v a_o general_n council_n i._o can._n viii_o it_o be_v observable_a how_o mr_n paget_n stumble_v at_o the_o same_o stone_n and_o misapply_v the_o very_a same_o place_n of_o scripture_n as_o the_o papist_n etc._n papist_n rhem._n on_o the_o place_n etc._n etc._n have_v do_v before_o for_o thus_o they_o write_v paul_n and_o barnabas_n condescend_v to_o refer_v the_o whole_a controversy_n &_o the_o determination_n thereof_o to_o the_o apostle_n and_o ancient_n at_o jerusalem_n that_o be_v to_o say_v to_o commit_v the_o matter_n to_o be_v try_v by_o the_o head_n and_o bishop_n and_o their_o determination_n in_o council_n and_o indeed_o such_o application_n of_o it_o better_o serve_v the_o turn_n of_o jesuit_n and_o priest_n that_o seek_v to_o set_v up_o the_o pope_n supremacy_n and_o a_o tyrannical_a hierarchy_n than_o those_o that_o desire_v to_o stand_v for_o the_o right_n and_o privilege_n which_o christ_n have_v give_v unto_o his_o church_n answ._n there_o be_v nothing_o say_v here_o but_o either_o it_o be_v refute_v by_o that_o which_o i_o have_v say_v already_o or_o else_o it_o be_v a_o mere_a beg_n of_o the_o question_n by_o avouch_v that_o which_o remain_v by_o he_o to_o be_v prove_v and_o which_o i_o be_o to_o disprove_v when_o i_o come_v to_o the_o examination_n of_o his_o argument_n though_o the_o papist_n abuse_n and_o
pervert_v this_o place_n yet_o that_o be_v no_o prejudice_n to_o our_o and_o other_o right_a use_n of_o it_o as_o i_o show_v before_o 35.36_o before_o pag._n 35.36_o touch_v the_o like_a exception_n about_o deut._n 17._o how_o can_v i_o be_v say_v to_o misapply_v this_o place_n as_o the_o papist_n have_v do_v see_v i_o do_v not_o apply_v it_o in_o such_o sort_n as_o they_o have_v do_v either_o to_o derogate_v from_o the_o certainty_n of_o the_o doctrine_n preach_v by_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n which_o their_o opinion_n note_v in_o those_o very_a word_n of_o the_o rhemist_n which_o he_o cite_v i_o have_v 70_o have_v pag._n 70_o before_o reject_v or_o to_o prove_v that_o counsel_n have_v absolute_a authority_n and_o that_o their_o decree_n be_v infallible_a which_o error_n of_o they_o i_o have_v in_o like_a manner_n disclaim_v both_o in_o my_o 89._o my_o ans_fw-fr to_o w._n b._n p._n 89._o former_a writing_n and_o at_o the_o very_a 65._o very_a pag._n 29._o &_o p._n 6_o 67._o see_v before_o p._n 63_o 64_o 65._o first_o entrance_n into_o this_o dispute_n in_o a_o word_n see_v i_o have_v apply_v this_o place_n no_o otherwise_o than_o other_o orthodox_n divine_n have_v do_v before_o i_o it_o be_v needle_n to_o insist_v further_o upon_o this_o matter_n chap._n v._n a_o answer_n to_o the_o allegation_n of_o mr_n davenport_n touch_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n have_v search_v through_o mr_n day_n his_o book_n for_o some_o special_a argument_n from_o the_o scripture_n to_o show_v the_o undue_a power_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n whereof_o he_o with_o other_o do_v accuse_v they_o i_o do_v therein_o find_v myself_o deceive_v and_o frustrate_a of_o my_o expectation_n he_o speak_v oft_o of_o the_o warrant_n of_o the_o word_n but_o he_o bring_v it_o not_o where_o and_o when_o it_o most_o concern_v he_o i_o find_v only_o in_o one_o piece_n of_o a_o leaf_n 236._o leaf_n apol._n reply_n p._n 236._o a_o few_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n but_o so_o loose_o and_o ambiguous_o note_v without_o frame_v any_o argument_n from_o they_o or_o without_o apply_v they_o direct_o to_o the_o question_n that_o man_n hardly_o can_v guess_v at_o his_o meaning_n i_o find_v also_o the_o most_o of_o the_o very_a same_o testimony_n first_o allege_v by_o mr_n can_n before_o mr_n d._n his_o book_n come_v forth_o and_o by_o he_o frame_v into_o argument_n and_o therefore_o in_o answer_n to_o mr_n can._n i_o shall_v speak_v something_o of_o they_o in_o the_o next_o chapter_n that_o which_o he_o do_v most_o large_o insist_v upon_o be_v the_o writing_n and_o testimony_n of_o man_n and_o of_o these_o he_o say_v 238._o say_v ibid._n p._n 238._o i_o will_v not_o stand_v to_o give_v a_o catalogue_n of_o their_o name_n though_o i_o may_v be_v plentiful_a therein_o but_o will_v content_v myself_o with_o the_o three_o writer_n of_o this_o kind_n who_o the_o answerer_n pretend_v in_o conference_n with_o i_o to_o make_v for_o he_o and_o i_o shall_v show_v they_o to_o be_v strong_o against_o he_o mr_n cartwright_n and_o mr_n fenner_n and_o mr_n parker_n man_n of_o our_o own_o nation_n sect_n i._o his_o allegation_n of_o mr_n cartwright_n answer_v for_o mr_n cartwright_n his_o own_o word_n undivided_a be_v these_o edit_n these_o t._n c._n â—_o reply_v p._n 49_o 2_o edit_n and_o if_o it_o shall_v happen_v which_o may_v come_v to_o pass_v that_o any_o church_n shall_v desire_v or_o choose_v or_o consent_v upon_o by_o the_o most_o part_n some_o that_o be_v unmeet_a either_o for_o doctrine_n or_o manner_n than_o the_o minister_n and_o elder_n of_o the_o other_o church_n round_o about_o shall_v advertise_v first_o and_o afterward_o as_o occasion_n shall_v serve_v sharp_o &_o severe_o charge_v that_o they_o forbear_v such_o election_n or_o if_o it_o be_v make_v that_o they_o confirm_v it_o not_o by_o suffer_v he_o to_o exercise_v any_o ministry_n and_o if_o either_o the_o church_n round_o about_o do_v fail_v of_o this_o duty_n or_o the_o church_n which_o be_v admonish_v rest_v not_o in_o their_o admonition_n then_o to_o bring_v it_o to_o the_o next_o synod_n and_o if_o it_o rest_v not_o therein_o than_o the_o prince_n or_o magistrate_n which_o must_v see_v that_o nothing_o in_o the_o church_n be_v disorderly_a and_o wicked_o do_v aught_o to_o drive_v that_o church_n from_o that_o election_n to_o another_o which_o be_v convenient_a now_o upon_o these_o word_n mr_n dau._n without_o any_o just_a explication_n or_o further_a declaration_n thereof_o make_v this_o bold_a and_o unreasonable_a conclusion_n 47._o conclusion_n apol._n reply_n p._n 47._o thus_o mr_n cartwright_n so_o that_o in_o his_o judgement_n other_o church_n have_v no_o power_n of_o hinder_v a_o faulty_a election_n but_o by_o admonition_n which_o power_n every_o christian_a have_v in_o another_o for_o his_o good_a but_o that_o mr_n cartw._n give_v more_o power_n unto_o the_o church_n and_o synod_n then_o that_o which_o every_o christian_a have_v &_o more_o than_o the_o power_n of_o admonition_n only_o it_o appear_v thus_o i._o he_o do_v in_o this_o place_n manifest_o distinguish_v betwixt_o admonition_n &_o a_o charge_n or_o commandment_n which_o imply_v a_o great_a power_n and_o authority_n when_o as_o he_o say_v of_o the_o classis_fw-la or_o of_o the_o minister_n and_o elder_n of_o the_o church_n round_o about_o that_o they_o shall_v advertise_v first_o which_o note_v their_o admonition_n and_o afterward_o sharp_o &_o severe_o charge_v which_o imply_v a_o commandment_n and_o authority_n therein_o therefore_o in_o scripture_n one_o and_o the_o same_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d word_n be_v usual_o and_o indifferent_o translate_v either_o to_o charge_n or_o command_v matt._n 10.5_o luk._n 8.29_o act._n 1.4_o &_o 4.18_o &_o 5.28_o 1._o tim._n 4.11_o with_o luk._n 5.14_o &_o 8.56_o 1._o tim._n 1.18_o &_o 5.7_o &_o 6.13_o 17._o thereby_o to_o express_v a_o special_a authority_n of_o such_o as_o use_v the_o same_o and_o the_o propriety_n of_o this_o word_n be_v thus_o declare_v by_o mr_n cartwr_n himself_o when_o expound_v those_o word_n of_o paul_n 1._o tim._n 6.13_o he_o say_v 177._o say_v t._n c._n 1_o rep._n p._n 177._o it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v that_o he_o say_v i_o denounce_v or_o i_o charge_v he_o do_v not_o say_v i_o exhort_v or_o give_v counsel_n leave_v it_o to_o the_o liberty_n of_o timothy_n and_o thus_o here_o we_o be_v in_o like_a manner_n to_o understand_v he_o when_o he_o tell_v how_o a_o classis_fw-la of_o minister_n and_o elder_n be_v sharp_o and_o severe_o to_o charge_v a_o church_n that_o they_o use_v a_o authority_n more_o than_o of_o exhort_v or_o admonish_v and_o counsel_v so_o that_o the_o matter_n be_v not_o leave_v in_o the_o liberty_n of_o they_o that_o be_v so_o charge_v ii_o he_o proceed_v further_a and_o after_o both_o admonition_n and_o a_o severe_a charge_n or_o prohibition_n he_o show_v that_o the_o classis_fw-la have_v yet_o more_o to_o do_v in_o this_o business_n if_o their_o charge_n be_v not_o regard_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o unlawful_a election_n viz._n that_o they_o confirm_v it_o not_o by_o suffer_v he_o to_o exercise_v any_o ministry_n whereas_o ordinary_o minister_n new_o elect_v be_v confirm_v and_o ordain_v by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n by_o some_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n near_o unto_o they_o this_o mr_n cartwr_n will_v have_v to_o be_v deny_v unto_o he_o and_o this_o denial_n of_o his_o ordination_n after_o his_o election_n be_v to_o be_v esteem_v a_o kind_n of_o censure_n in_o some_o sort_n proportionable_a to_o the_o deposition_n of_o a_o minister_n already_o confirm_v see_v keep_a out_o or_o cast_v out_o from_o the_o ministry_n be_v action_n of_o like_a nature_n and_o this_o be_v that_o which_o mr_n fenner_n who_o be_v well_o acquaint_v with_o the_o meaning_n of_o mr_n cartwr_n in_o these_o thing_n point_v at_o when_o speak_v of_o a_o controversy_n rise_v in_o a_o church_n about_o the_o call_n of_o a_o minister_n he_o say_v 244._o say_v s._n theol._n l._n 7._o c._n 2._o p._n 244._o that_o the_o cause_n be_v to_o be_v refer_v unto_o the_o judge_n who_o it_o concern_v and_o who_o be_v after_o mention_v that_o they_o may_v either_o ratify_v the_o election_n or_o make_v it_o frustrate_v now_o in_o the_o ecclesiastical_a polity_n these_o judge_n be_v no_o other_o than_o class_n or_o synod_n whereof_o he_o afterward_o speak_v and_o this_o their_o abrogate_a and_o make_v void_a a_o unlawful_a election_n be_v a_o power_n more_o than_o simple_a admonition_n iii_o whereas_o mr_n cartwr_n here_o say_v that_o if_o either_o the_o church_n round_o about_o do_v fail_v of_o this_o duty_n or_o the_o church_n which_o be_v admonish_v rest_v not_o therein_o then_o to_o bring_v it_o to_o the_o next_o synod_n etc._n etc._n hereupon_o 173._o hereupon_o def._n of_o answ_n to_o admon_n p._n
than_o those_o that_o do_v so_o many_o way_n pervert_v his_o meaning_n he_o be_v not_o only_o a_o member_n of_o the_o same_o church_n but_o a_o member_n of_o the_o same_o family_n &_o live_v under_o the_o same_o roof_n with_o i_o where_o we_o have_v continual_a and_o daily_a occasion_n to_o talk_v of_o these_o thing_n and_o at_o that_o time_n when_o mr_n jacob_n publish_v his_o unsound_a writing_n touch_v this_o question_n he_o be_v afterward_o also_o a_o member_n of_o the_o same_o eldership_n and_o by_o office_n sit_v with_o we_o daily_o to_o heat_n and_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o our_o church_n and_o so_o become_v a_o member_n of_o our_o classical_a combination_n yet_o do_v he_o never_o testify_v against_o the_o unduepower_v of_o the_o classis_fw-la or_o complain_v that_o we_o be_v not_o a_o free_a people_n though_o the_o classis_fw-la exercise_v the_o same_o authority_n then_o as_o now_o it_o do_v yea_o he_o be_v also_o for_o that_o time_n the_o scribe_n of_o our_o consistory_n the_o act_n of_o our_o eldership_n and_o church_n be_v record_v with_o his_o own_o hand_n be_v extant_a to_o show_v his_o agreement_n with_o we_o in_o the_o government_n of_o this_o church_n and_o it_o appear_v hereby_o that_o he_o be_v of_o another_o spirit_n and_o judgement_n than_o mr_n davenp_n who_o have_v publish_v so_o many_o vain_a cavil_v against_o the_o government_n and_o discipline_n of_o these_o reform_a church_n and_o this_o under_o the_o cloak_n &_o pretence_n of_o his_o agreement_n with_o mr_n parker_n yea_o and_o further_o it_o be_v apparent_a that_o the_o knowledge_n and_o experience_n which_o mr_n parker_n get_v by_o this_o his_o live_n here_o in_o communion_n with_o these_o church_n have_v be_v a_o special_a help_n unto_o he_o in_o the_o write_n of_o those_o learned_a treatise_n of_o ecclesiastical_a policy_n which_o for_o the_o substance_n and_o main_n be_v as_o a_o lively_a table_n wherein_o the_o government_n of_o these_o reform_a church_n be_v plain_o portray_v before_o our_o eye_n his_o discourse_n be_v as_o it_o be_v a_o narration_n and_o defence_n of_o their_o practice_n which_o discourse_n may_v yet_o have_v be_v more_o perfect_a have_v he_o live_v to_o finish_v the_o same_o sect_n iv_o his_o allegation_n of_o d._n ames_n examine_v io._n dav_n to_o these_o i_o may_v add_v d._n ames_n in_o that_o which_o he_o write_v in_o his_o latter_a time_n wherein_o the_o answerer_n pretend_v that_o he_o set_v down_o his_o judgement_n more_o wary_o in_o this_o matter_n 5._o casus_fw-la consc_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 24._o q._n 4._o etc._n etc._n 25._o qu._n 5._o then_o former_o see_v his_o case_n of_o conscience_n the_o 4._o book_n where_o he_o speak_v clear_o of_o this_o power_n as_o essential_o belong_v to_o particular_a church_n answ._n thus_o instead_o of_o argument_n from_o the_o scripture_n for_o the_o confirmation_n of_o his_o cause_n mr_n d._n still_o lead_v we_o from_o one_o man_n testimony_n to_o another_o &_o thither_o i_o be_o force_v to_o follow_v he_o and_o for_o d._n ames_n 1._o i_o may_v just_o testify_v that_o i_o have_v find_v he_o waver_v in_o his_o opinion_n touch_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n for_o through_o the_o inward_a familiarity_n which_o i_o have_v with_o he_o a_o long_a time_n for_o more_o than_o 20_o year_n together_o while_o he_o live_v in_o these_o country_n have_v oftentimes_o have_v earnest_a conference_n with_o he_o touch_v this_o question_n and_o much_o complain_v of_o the_o wrong_n do_v to_o many_o minister_n by_o that_o book_n entitle_v english_a puritanisme_n which_o he_o have_v translate_v into_o latin_a wherein_o there_o be_v such_o a_o peremptory_a restraint_n of_o all_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n unto_o particular_a congregation_n though_o he_o do_v never_o plain_o retract_v that_o which_o he_o publish_v yet_o he_o show_v himself_o divers_a time_n incline_v to_o a_o change_n of_o his_o judgement_n yea_o &_o sometime_o acknowledge_v that_o synod_n have_v power_n to_o judge_v of_o cause_n and_o by_o their_o sentence_n to_o decree_v the_o excommunication_n of_o such_o as_o have_v deserve_v the_o same_o ii_o for_o his_o writing_n d._n ames_n when_o he_o 1616._o he_o preface_n to_o mr_n par._n book_n de_fw-fr pol._n eccl._n anno_fw-la 1616._o give_v so_o great_a approbation_n of_o mr_n parker_n work_n which_o he_o write_v of_o ecclesiastical_a policy_n wherein_o he_o do_v so_o large_o maintain_v the_o power_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n may_v cause_v the_o reader_n to_o think_v that_o he_o be_v of_o the_o same_o judgement_n with_o he_o see_v he_o give_v such_o general_a allowance_n and_o commendation_n thereof_o without_o any_o exception_n about_o this_o question_n iii_o it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o in_o none_o of_o his_o latter_a writing_n he_o do_v use_v that_o peremptory_a phrase_n in_o limit_v synod_n or_o church_n combine_v in_o class_n or_o synod_n only_o to_o counsel_n or_o advise_v in_o such_o manner_n as_o be_v do_v in_o that_o 2._o that_o engl._n purit_fw-la c._n 2._o first_o writing_n iu._n and_o more_o particular_o in_o his_o treatise_n of_o divinity_n he_o write_v thus_o of_o particular_a church_n 27._o church_n medulla_n ss_z theol._n l._n 1._o c._n 39_o the_o 27._o that_o as_o their_o communion_n require_v the_o light_n of_o nature_n &_o equity_n of_o rule_n and_o example_n of_o scripture_n do_v teach_v they_o may_v and_o also_o ought_v frequent_o to_o enter_v into_o a_o mutual_a confederation_n and_o consociation_n among_o themselves_o in_o class_n and_o synod_n that_o they_o may_v use_v common_a consent_n and_o mutual_a help_n as_o much_o as_o commodious_o may_v be_v do_v in_o those_o thing_n especial_o which_o be_v of_o great_a moment_n now_o as_o in_o particular_a congregation_n the_o great_a act_n of_o power_n and_o jurisdiction_n which_o be_v exercise_v therein_o receive_v their_o strength_n from_o common_a consent_n and_o do_v consist_v therein_o so_o if_o in_o matter_n of_o great_a weight_n the_o common_a consent_n of_o synod_n be_v to_o be_v use_v then_o be_v a_o power_n and_o authority_n asscribe_v unto_o they_o then_o ought_v not_o particular_a church_n to_o proceed_v without_o and_o against_o the_o authority_n of_o common_a consent_n in_o synod_n and_o that_o mutual_a help_n of_o other_o church_n be_v then_o most_o effectual_a when_o there_o be_v not_o only_o advise_v but_o authority_n also_o to_o confirm_v the_o same_o though_o d.a._n add_v in_o the_o same_o place_n that_o this_o combination_n do_v neither_o constitute_v a_o new_a form_n of_o the_o church_n neither_o aught_o by_o any_o mean_n to_o destroy_v or_o impair_v that_o liberty_n &_o power_n which_o christ_n have_v leave_v unto_o his_o church_n for_o the_o direct_n &_o further_a whereof_o it_o only_o serve_v this_o we_o also_o willing_o grant_v when_o a_o particular_a congregation_n be_v hinder_v &_o stay_v from_o the_o exercise_n of_o their_o authority_n in_o a_o unlawful_a business_n in_o a_o unjust_a excommunication_n or_o election_n their_o liberty_n &_o power_n be_v not_o hereby_o destroy_v or_o take_v away_o but_o rectify_v and_o preserve_v here_o be_v to_o be_v remember_v that_o which_o mr_n par._n as_o be_v note_v before_o say_v upon_o like_a occasion_n when_o some_o object_v that_o the_o church_n of_o the_o village_n in_o the_o netherlands_o want_v the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n he_o reply_v 349._o reply_v pol._n ecc._n l._n 3._o c._n 23._o p._n 349._o imo_fw-la potestas_fw-la excommunicandi_fw-la ordinandi_fw-la &_o jurisdictionis_fw-la caeterae_fw-la illis_fw-la illibata_fw-la relinquitur_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n ordination_n and_o other_o jurisdiction_n remain_v unto_o they_o uncorrupted_a etc._n etc._n though_o they_o do_v not_o proceed_v thereunto_o but_o with_o common_a consent_n of_o the_o classis_fw-la v._o after_o this_o d._n ames_n in_o his_o disputation_n against_o bellarmine_n touch_v synod_n or_o counsel_n do_v sundry_a time_n acknowledge_v that_o they_o have_v more_o authority_n then_o only_o to_o counsel_n and_o advise_v this_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v in_o divers_a pounts_n as_o first_o in_o the_o question_n whether_o the_o great_a prelate_n only_o have_v jus_o suffragii_fw-la decisivi_fw-la the_o right_a or_o authority_n of_o a_o determine_n or_o definitive_a suffrage_n or_o whether_o the_o same_o belong_v unto_o the_o elder_n also_o or_o inferior_a officer_n to_o who_o bellarmine_n allow_v a_o consult_v voice_n but_o not_o a_o definitive_a here_o d._n ames_n according_a to_o the_o receyve_v opinion_n of_o the_o protestant_n 2._o protestant_n bellarm._n enerv_v tom._n 2._o l._n 1._o de_fw-fr conc._n c._n 2._o allow_v unto_o they_o also_o the_o right_n and_o authority_n of_o suffrage_n when_o they_o be_v depute_v and_o send_v as_o the_o delegate_n of_o their_o church_n unto_o synod_n this_o he_o oft_o repeat_v and_o although_o he_o say_v 8._o say_v ibid._n the_o 8._o that_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n there_o be_v no_o
shall_v serve_v for_o proof_n of_o his_o major_n that_o he_o bring_v for_o confirmation_n of_o his_o minor_n the_o scripture_n which_o he_o allege_v he_o refer_v to_o the_o proof_n of_o his_o misnamed_n proposition_n the_o testimony_n of_o author_n here_o allege_v he_o refer_v to_o the_o proof_n of_o his_o miscalled_n assumption_n this_o error_n i_o do_v the_o rather_o note_v 1._o because_o it_o be_v no_o slip_n or_o oversight_n in_o he_o through_o want_n of_o attention_n in_o this_o place_n but_o a_o ordinary_a and_o frequent_a error_n as_o appear_v in_o that_o which_o follow_v 2._o because_o of_o his_o insolent_a and_o arrogant_a boast_n against_o other_o 189._o other_o churc_n plea_n p._n 2._o &_o 3_o &_o 15._o necess_n of_o sep._n p._n 188_o 189._o for_o want_v of_o art_n and_o want_v of_o wit_n of_o logic_n etc._n etc._n who_o can_v relate_v unto_o we_o such_o a_o example_n of_o a_o man_n profess_v himself_o a_o logical_a disputant_n with_o such_o abundance_n of_o print_a syllogism_n with_o such_o contempt_n of_o other_o and_o yet_o to_o be_v so_o rude_a as_o not_o to_o know_v the_o plain_a thing_n and_o the_o a._n b._n c._n in_o logic_n the_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o major_a and_o minor_a in_o a_o syllogism_n 3._o because_o of_o his_o spiritual_a pride_n not_o only_o in_o separate_v himself_o from_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n as_o other_o brownist_n do_v but_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o be_v their_o pastor_n their_o guide_n their_o champion_n for_o defence_n of_o their_o separation_n against_o all_o man_n o_o miserable_a man_n that_o follow_v so_o blind_a a_o guide_n iii_o a_o three_o error_n in_o the_o prosecution_n of_o this_o argument_n be_v this_o that_o although_o the_o premise_n of_o this_o argument_n be_v right_o understand_v be_v grant_v to_o be_v true_a yet_o the_o scripture_n allege_v do_v not_o prove_v the_o same_o though_o the_o church_n plant_v of_o the_o apostle_n have_v power_n full_o in_o themselves_o immediate_o from_o christ_n to_o practice_v all_o his_o ordinance_n yet_o these_o place_n 1._o cor._n 5.2_o 3._o act._n 14.23_o 1._o cor._n 16.2_o col._n 2.5_o 2._o thes_n 3.14_o do_v only_o prove_v their_o right_n for_o the_o practice_n of_o some_o of_o his_o ordinance_n that_o be_v mention_v and_o point_a at_o in_o they_o but_o not_o of_o all_o other_o as_o for_o example_n the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n though_o a_o right_n belong_v to_o the_o church_n and_o ordain_v in_o other_o place_n of_o scripture_n yet_o be_v not_o specify_v in_o any_o of_o these_o allegation_n the_o liberty_n of_o appeal_n in_o case_n of_o oppression_n the_o power_n of_o send_v deputy_n unto_o a_o synod_n for_o the_o decision_n of_o difficult_a &_o weighty_a cause_n be_v ordinance_n of_o christ_n and_o right_n of_o the_o church_n as_o have_v be_v show_v before_o &_o yet_o not_o specify_v in_o any_o of_o these_o scripture_n allege_v by_o he_o and_o therefore_o his_o proof_n for_o all_o ordinance_n be_v defective_a iv_o for_o the_o right_a understanding_n of_o this_o sentence_n viz._n that_o every_o parish_n or_o every_o particular_a church_n have_v full_a or_o sufficient_a authority_n within_o itself_o derive_v immediate_o from_o christ_n for_o the_o government_n of_o itself_o in_o all_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n i_o desire_v the_o reader_n to_o look_v back_o unto_o the_o explication_n thereof_o by_o 14._o by_o disse_n de_fw-fr gub._n eccl._n p._n 14._o gersom_a bucerus_n who_o labour_v to_o make_v the_o best_a interpretation_n thereof_o yet_o show_v that_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v without_o divers_a caution_n some_o whereof_o i_o have_v express_v 118._o express_v p._n 117._o 118._o before_o he_o undertake_v the_o defence_n hereof_o against_o d._n downam_n but_o no_o further_a than_o it_o may_v be_v so_o understand_v and_o so_o expound_v as_o not_o contain_v in_o it_o any_o denial_n or_o impeachment_n of_o the_o authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n judge_v the_o cause_n of_o many_o church_n and_o indeed_o how_o can_v any_o church_n be_v say_v to_o practice_v all_o the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n so_o long_o as_o they_o refuse_v and_o deny_v the_o combination_n of_o church_n or_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o they_o be_v combine_v which_o be_v show_v to_o be_v one_o of_o his_o ordinance_n argum_fw-la ii_o 69._o ii_o churc_n plea_n p._n 69._o if_o christ_n in_o mat._n 18.17_o where_o he_o say_v tell_v the_o church_n do_v mean_v a_o particular_a congregation_n then_o have_v every_o particular_a congregation_n a_o entire_a power_n in_o &_o of_o itself_o to_o exercise_v ecclesiastical_a government_n and_o all_o other_o god_n spiritual_a ordinance_n but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a therefore_o the_o second_o the_o proposition_n be_v clear_a and_o certain_a maintain_v by_o the_o most_o judicious_a divine_n etc._n etc._n the_o assumption_n be_v prove_v thus_o that_o church_n which_o christ_n intend_v in_o matt._n 18._o have_v absolute_a power_n in_o &_o of_o itself_o to_o perform_v all_o god_n ordinance_n but_o christ_n intend_v in_o mat._n 18._o a_o particular_a congregation_n therefore_o every_o particular_a congregation_n have_v absolute_a power_n in_o and_o of_o itself_o to_o perform_v all_o god_n ordinance_n etc._n etc._n answ._n i._n here_o be_v the_o same_o fault_n that_o be_v in_o the_o former_a argument_n viz._n of_o conclude_v beside_o the_o question_n this_o argument_n be_v grant_v there_o arise_v hence_o no_o prejudice_n to_o the_o authority_n of_o class_n or_o synod_n the_o authority_n of_o particular_a church_n and_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n may_v well_o subsist_v together_o the_o arrow_n which_o be_v shoot_v by_o mr_n can_n be_v beside_o the_o mark_n of_o the_o main_a question_n ii_o his_o argument_n be_v not_o only_o beside_o the_o mark_n but_o as_o a_o arrow_n shoot_v up_o into_o the_o air_n and_o fall_v down_o on_o his_o head_n again_o so_o do_v his_o argument_n return_v upon_o himself_o for_o if_o a_o particular_a church_n have_v entire_a power_n in_o and_z of_o itself_o to_o perform_v all_o god_n ordinance_n then_o have_v it_o power_n to_o unite_v itself_o with_o other_o church_n combine_v in_o synod_n and_o to_o submit_v unto_o the_o judgement_n thereof_o according_a to_o the_o divine_a warrant_n &_o ordinance_n act._n 15.2_o etc._n etc._n deut._n 17.8_o etc._n etc._n iii_o as_o before_o so_o he_o blind_o stumble_v here_o again_o at_o the_o same_o stone_n in_o not_o discern_v betwixt_o the_o proposition_n and_o assumption_n of_o his_o own_o syllogism_n the_o author_n which_o he_o allege_v for_o the_o maintenance_n of_o his_o major_a proposition_n aught_o to_o have_v be_v apply_v to_o the_o proof_n of_o his_o assumption_n viz._n to_o show_v that_o christ_n in_o mat._n 18.17_o where_o he_o say_v tell_v the_o church_n do_v mean_v a_o particular_a congregation_n for_o this_o be_v that_o which_o he_o assume_v when_o he_o say_v but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a and_o all_o the_o show_n of_o help_n which_o he_o have_v from_o his_o author_n tend_v to_o confirm_v this_o assumption_n but_o their_o testimony_n be_v no_o direct_a proof_n of_o his_o proposition_n iv_o another_o new_a gross_a error_n in_o his_o logical_a dispute_n be_v this_o that_o whereas_o he_o go_v about_o to_o prove_v the_o assumption_n of_o his_o first_o syllogism_n by_o frame_v a_o second_o syllogism_n he_o do_v not_o therein_o according_a to_o order_n conclude_v that_o which_o be_v his_o former_a assumption_n whether_o it_o be_v understand_v as_o it_o be_v indeed_o or_o as_o he_o miscalle_n it_o but_o instead_o thereof_o he_o ridiculous_o repeat_v the_o conclusion_n of_o his_o first_o syllogism_n which_o conclusion_n be_v neither_o the_o proposition_n nor_o the_o assumption_n which_o he_o offer_v to_o prove_v but_o the_o question_v make_v by_o he_o in_o his_o main_a argument_n and_o thus_o entangle_v himself_o with_o his_o own_o syllogism_n proposition_n and_o assumption_n he_o have_v bring_v himself_o into_o such_o a_o maze_n that_o he_o know_v not_o where_o he_o be_v what_o he_o say_v nor_o whereof_o he_o affirm_v let_v logician_n tell_v how_o oft_o they_o have_v see_v the_o like_a in_o print_n v._o whether_o all_o his_o author_n do_v affirm_v that_o by_o the_o church_n in_o mat._n 18._o christ_n mean_v a_o particular_a congregation_n i_o will_v not_o here_o examine_v i_o shall_v have_v further_a occasion_n in_o the_o next_o chapter_n to_o speak_v of_o many_o of_o they_o but_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n let_v it_o be_v grant_v not_o only_o that_o they_o have_v all_o so_o affirm_v but_o that_o it_o be_v the_o truth_n yet_o do_v they_o not_o all_o affirm_v that_o only_o a_o particular_a congregation_n be_v intend_v by_o christ_n mat._n 18._o for_o both_o the_o eldership_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n and_o the_o synod_n arise_v from_o the_o combination_n of_o many_o church_n be_v show_v unto_o we_o in_o matt._n 18._o the_o one_o
allege_v or_o so_o much_o as_o pretend_v for_o it_o be_v this_o to_o go_v unto_o the_o law_n and_o to_o the_o testimony_n v._o the_o testimony_n of_o man_n which_o he_o allege_v be_v falsify_v and_o pervert_v by_o he_o d._n fulk_n show_v the_o sufficiency_n of_o those_o office_n mention_v by_o he_o viz._n of_o doctor_n pastor_n governor_n etc._n etc._n but_o he_o etc._n he_o disc_n of_o eccl._n gou._n p._n 111._o etc._n etc._n show_v withal_o express_o how_o these_o exercise_n authority_n in_o synod_n as_o well_o as_o in_o the_o eldership_n and_o particular_a congregation_n though_o d._n whitaker_n and_o mr_n parker_n say_v that_o the_o church_n of_o god_n may_v subsist_v without_o synod_n yet_o he_o corrupt_v and_o falsifyes_n their_o testimony_n when_o he_o make_v they_o to_o say_v the_o church_n may_v well_o subsist_v without_o they_o the_o church_n of_o god_n may_v subsist_v and_o be_v a_o true_a church_n though_o it_o want_v some_o divine_a ordinance_n though_o they_o be_v not_o absolute_o necessary_a to_o the_o be_v and_o subsistence_n of_o a_o church_n yet_o how_o needful_a they_o be_v to_o the_o well-being_n of_o a_o church_n both_o those_o author_n do_v show_v and_o prove_v from_o divers_a ground_n of_o scripture_n note_v before_o if_o the_o want_n of_o every_o ordinance_n of_o god_n shall_v destroy_v the_o subsistence_n of_o a_o church_n they_o that_o company_n of_o brownist_n under_o mr_n can_n want_v the_o ordinance_n of_o a_o eldership_n so_o long_o a_o time_n must_v have_v perish_v long_o ago_o argum_fw-la viii_o whatsoever_o government_n can_v be_v find_v command_v in_o the_o write_a word_n of_o god_n ought_v not_o to_o have_v any_o place_n in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n but_o the_o government_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n over_o many_o particular_a congregation_n can_v be_v find_v command_v in_o the_o write_a word_n of_o god_n therefore_o it_o ought_v not_o to_o have_v any_o place_n in_o the_o house_n of_o god_n the_o first_o part_n be_v ground_v upon_o these_o scripture_n esa_n 8.20_o mat._n 28._o ult_n etc._n etc._n likewise_o this_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o many_o learned_a man_n etc._n etc._n the_o second_o part_n be_v also_o as_o manifest_v for_o if_o we_o once_o grant_v as_o all_o learned_a man_n have_v grant_v that_o the_o church_n of_o the_o apostolic_a constitution_n be_v independent_a body_n and_o exercise_v ecclesiastical_a government_n in_o and_o of_o themselves_o than_o it_o must_v follow_v that_o classical_a assembly_n etc._n etc._n have_v their_o rise_n whole_o from_o the_o pleasure_n and_o will_n of_o man_n answ._n the_o first_o part_n of_o this_o argument_n be_v of_o itself_o plain_a enough_o need_v not_o such_o store_n of_o proof_n as_o mr_n can_n bring_v for_o it_o the_o reader_n may_v observe_v his_o notable_a trifle_n in_o allege_v so_o many_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n and_o testimony_n of_o man_n though_o some_o of_o they_o be_v careless_o misalledge_v for_o proof_n of_o that_o which_o he_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o imagine_v that_o it_o will_v be_v deny_v by_o i_o the_o second_o part_n of_o this_o argument_n be_v most_o false_a and_o he_o know_v it_o be_v deny_v by_o i_o and_o yet_o for_o proof_n of_o it_o he_o bring_v here_o neither_o word_n of_o god_n nor_o word_n of_o man_n no_o testimony_n neither_o divine_a nor_o humane_a he_o say_v indeed_o most_o untrue_o that_o all_o learned_a man_n have_v grant_v that_o the_o church_n of_o apostolic_a constitution_n be_v independent_a body_n but_o he_o name_v not_o one_o learned_a man_n that_o so_o write_v the_o scripture_n both_o of_o the_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n which_o show_v a_o dependency_n of_o church_n in_o ecclesiastical_a judgement_n have_v be_v note_v already_o in_o those_o argument_n bring_v for_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n together_o with_o the_o consent_n of_o learned_a man_n such_o late_a opposite_n except_v as_o i_o myself_o first_o name_v as_o party_n in_o this_o cause_n all_o other_o learned_a writer_n do_v general_o reject_v that_o independency_n which_o he_o dream_v of_o argum_fw-la ix_o 73._o ix_o church_n plea._n p._n 73._o that_o government_n which_o mere_o tend_v unto_o the_o take_n away_o from_o particular_a congregation_n their_o due_a power_n be_v unlawful_a but_o the_o government_n of_o class_n &_o synod_n as_o they_o now_o be_v do_v mere_o tend_v unto_o the_o take_n away_o from_o particular_a congregation_n their_o due_a power_n therefore_o that_o government_n be_v unlawful_a the_o major_n of_o this_o argument_n may_v easy_o be_v prove_v by_o sundry_a place_n of_o scripture_n viz._n 1._o thes_n 4.6_o etc._n etc._n the_o definition_n of_o justice_n etc._n etc._n the_o etymology_n or_o precise_a signification_n of_o the_o word_n both_o in_o greek_a and_o latin_n etc._n etc._n answ._n here_o again_o he_o play_v the_o trifler_n in_o allege_v so_o many_o scripture_n &_o testimony_n of_o man_n to_o prove_v that_o which_o of_o itself_o be_v clear_a enough_o &_o more_o plain_a than_o the_o proof_n that_o he_o bring_v for_o it_o in_o special_a that_o definition_n of_o justice_n which_o he_o bring_v be_v not_o sufficient_o confirm_v by_o the_o etymology_n which_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o greek_a etymon_n note_v out_o of_o aristotle_n be_v not_o so_o currant_n but_o that_o some_o learned_a man_n refuse_v the_o same_o and_o ebr._n and_o avenar_n in_o praef_n lex_fw-la ebr._n derive_v the_o word_n from_o the_o hebrew_n from_o whence_o the_o principal_a etymology_n of_o that_o tongue_n be_v to_o be_v take_v and_o yet_o that_o etymology_n which_o aristotle_n bring_v of_o justice_n be_v not_o with_o mr_n can_n to_o demonstrate_v a_o entire_a definition_n of_o justice_n but_o to_o show_v in_o part_n one_o effect_n thereof_o and_o mr_n can_n overspeake_v himself_o when_o he_o say_v of_o the_o definition_n so_o much_o be_v import_v in_o the_o greek_a word_n the_o latin_a etymology_n which_o mr_n can_v bring_v viz._n jus_o a_o jure_fw-la as_o he_o set_v it_o down_o in_o his_o margin_n be_v more_o strange_a it_o be_v likely_a his_o author_n who_o he_o allege_v have_v no_o such_o thing_n if_o mr_n can_n shall_v own_v it_o or_o approve_v of_o it_o in_o such_o sort_n as_o it_o stand_v in_o his_o book_n it_o will_v thereby_o appear_v that_o his_o skill_n in_o grammar_n be_v like_a unto_o his_o skill_n in_o logic_n who_o ever_o hear_v such_o a_o etymology_n that_o the_o nominative_a shall_v be_v derive_v of_o the_o ablative_a but_o admit_v there_o shall_v be_v such_o a_o ridiculous_a etymology_n how_o do_v he_o or_o how_o can_v he_o apply_v this_o to_o confirm_v his_o definition_n of_o justice_n how_o do_v this_o prove_v the_o truth_n of_o his_o major_a proposition_n what_o be_v that_o which_o he_o say_v be_v import_v in_o this_o etymology_n and_o what_o be_v that_o precise_a signification_n which_o he_o vain_o talk_v of_o but_o do_v not_o express_v but_o let_v we_o now_o hear_v now_o he_o seek_v to_o prove_v his_o minor_a which_o be_v most_o false_a i._o can._n the_o minor_a be_v as_o manifest_v 1._o by_o mr_n paget_n own_o testimony_n in_o pag._n 66._o where_o he_o confess_v that_o they_o have_v conclude_v among_o themselves_o in_o their_o synod_n that_o no_o particular_a congregation_n without_o the_o leave_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o classis_fw-la shall_v proceed_v to_o the_o election_n of_o minister_n excommunication_n of_o offender_n and_o the_o like_a etc._n etc._n answ._n i._o he_o do_v manifest_o change_v and_o alter_v my_o word_n for_o when_o as_o i_o have_v say_v that_o it_o have_v be_v agree_v in_o synod_n touch_v election_n of_o minister_n excommunication_n and_o the_o like_a that_o the_o same_o shall_v not_o be_v proceed_v in_o 66._o in_o answ_n to_o w.b._n p._n 66._o without_o advise_v of_o the_o classis_fw-la instead_o of_o this_o mr_n can_v repeat_v it_o without_o leave_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o classis_fw-la now_o according_a to_o the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n betwixt_o we_o there_o be_v difference_n betwixt_o do_v a_o thing_n without_o advice_n and_o without_o leave_n man_n ask_v advise_v of_o many_o of_o who_o they_o ask_v no_o leave_n for_o do_v a_o thing_n ii_o have_v i_o speak_v more_o large_o of_o the_o allowance_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o class_n and_o synod_n yet_o will_v not_o my_o testimony_n have_v prove_v his_o minor_n viz._n that_o their_o government_n tend_v to_o the_o take_v away_o from_o particular_a church_n their_o due_a power_n see_v the_o authority_n and_o help_n of_o class_n tend_v to_o the_o establishment_n of_o their_o due_a power_n by_o direct_v and_o regulate_v the_o same_o and_o so_o prevent_v the_o undue_a execution_n of_o their_o power_n this_o order_n take_v not_o away_o due_a power_n but_o hinder_v and_o correct_v only_o the_o undue_a exercise_n of_o their_o power_n thus_o much_o be_v confess_v by_o such_o as_o mr_n can_n himself_o hereafter_o call_v
acknowledge_v one_o another_o to_o be_v in_o that_o way_n iv_o this_o company_n of_o brownist_n whereof_o mr_n can_v be_v the_o sole_a governor_n be_v former_o govern_v by_o a_o eldership_n and_o now_o since_o their_o division_n they_o have_v no_o eldership_n to_o rule_v they_o whether_o it_o be_v because_o they_o think_v they_o have_v none_o among_o they_o fit_a to_o be_v elder_n or_o whether_o they_o do_v wilful_o refuse_v such_o as_o they_o can_v deny_v to_o be_v fit_a or_o whether_o there_o be_v any_o other_o cause_n i_o leave_v it_o to_o themselves_o always_o this_o we_o know_v that_o there_o be_v some_o church_n in_o remote_a country_n that_o want_v the_o benefit_n of_o classical_a government_n because_o there_o be_v no_o other_o neighbour_n church_n near_o unto_o they_o with_o who_o they_o may_v combine_v themselves_o for_o their_o mutual_a guidance_n and_o edification_n but_o now_o if_o the_o want_n of_o a_o eldership_n among_o the_o brownist_n such_o as_o they_o once_o have_v do_v not_o warrant_v we_o to_o say_v that_o they_o hold_v two_o distinct_a form_n of_o church-government_n to_o be_v lawful_a one_o with_o a_o eldership_n another_o without_o a_o eldership_n &_o consequent_o that_o they_o hold_v two_o way_n unto_o heaven_n then_o much_o less_o can_v the_o want_n of_o a_o synod_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o different_a consideration_n of_o the_o time_n place_n occasion_n and_o opportunity_n of_o several_a church_n be_v any_o warrant_n for_o mr_n can_n to_o object_n unto_o we_o two_o form_n of_o government_n or_o two_o way_n to_o heaven_n etc._n etc._n reas._n v._o let_v it_o be_v observe_v that_o for_o this_o reason_n among_o other_o the_o learned_a 2._o learned_a whit._fw-la cont._n 4._o qu._n 4._o chamier_n l._n 6._o conject_n 2._o say_v the_o pope_n be_v antichrist_n viz._n because_o he_o will_v have_v man_n to_o appeal_v from_o their_o own_o church_n unto_o he_o and_o to_o stand_v under_o his_o sentence_n and_o decree_n and_o do_v not_o the_o classical_a assembly_n and_o synod_n take_v upon_o they_o a_o authority_n much_o like_o to_o it_o in_o subject_v many_o congregation_n to_o they_o require_v appeal_n to_o be_v make_v to_o they_o and_o that_o the_o judicatory_a as_o mr_n paget_n etc._n paget_n in_o his_o letter_n etc._n etc._n phrase_n be_v belong_v to_o they_o as_o if_o their_o power_n above_o all_o church_n answ._n i._n let_v it_o be_v observe_v how_o mr_n can_n speak_v here_o against_o appeal_n make_v unto_o class_n and_o synod_n bring_v no_o scripture_n no_o word_n of_o god_n to_o condemn_v they_o but_o only_o the_o testimony_n of_o man_n he_o need_v not_o to_o have_v reserve_v hereafter_o a_o peculiar_a section_n only_o for_o humane_a testimony_n when_o he_o use_v they_o so_o oft_o before_o ii_o let_v it_o be_v observe_v how_o notable_o he_o abuse_v even_o these_o testimony_n also_o against_o the_o meaning_n of_o his_o author_n d._n whitaker_n 470._o whitaker_n depont_n rom._n qu._n 4._o p._n 470._o plead_v for_o appeal_n as_o be_v both_o of_o divine_a and_o natural_a right_n chamier_n who_o mr_n can_v do_v misquote_v without_o the_o title_n of_o the_o book_n allege_v say_v that_o appeal_n 17_o appeal_n panstrat_n catho_n tom_fw-mi 2._o l._n 13._o c._n 17_o be_v of_o common_a equity_n and_o true_o without_o they_o the_o church_n can_v hardly_o or_o not_o at_o all_o subsist_v speak_v of_o appeal_n unto_o synod_n that_o which_o learned_a and_o orthodox_n writer_n blame_v in_o appeal_n make_v unto_o the_o pope_n be_v this_o that_o they_o be_v make_v unto_o one_o man_n and_o not_o unto_o a_o synod_n asscribe_v unto_o he_o infallibility_n of_o judgement_n give_v he_o power_n over_o church_n that_o be_v not_o combine_v with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o in_o special_a for_o this_o that_o the_o pope_n allow_v no_o appeal_n to_o be_v make_v from_o he_o unto_o a_o synod_n this_o be_v the_o antichristian_a pride_n that_o they_o condemn_v in_o the_o pope_n and_o herein_o the_o church_n of_o the_o brownist_n do_v plain_o resemble_v the_o pope_n see_v their_o congregation_n also_o their_o democraticall_a judicatory_a allow_v no_o appeal_n to_o be_v make_v from_o they_o unto_o class_n or_o synod_n unto_o any_o ecclesiastical_a judge_n beside_o themselves_o these_o be_v two_o of_o the_o most_o monstrous_a proposition_n of_o the_o papist_n touch_v the_o pope_n authority_n viz._n that_o 18._o that_o bellarm._n de_fw-fr conc._n l._n 2._o c._n 17._o &_o 18._o the_o pope_n be_v above_o a_o general_n synod_n and_o acknowledge_v no_o judgement_n on_o earth_n above_o he_o and_o again_o that_o the_o pope_n can_v commit_v the_o coactive_a judgement_n over_o he_o neither_o unto_o a_o synod_n nor_o unto_o any_o man_n but_o only_o the_o discretive_a &_o this_o discretive_a judgement_n they_o expound_v to_o be_v such_o a_o kind_n of_o arbitrement_n as_o do_v not_o bind_v he_o further_o than_o it_o please_v he_o now_o so_o far_o as_o concern_v ecclesiastical_a judgement_n the_o brownist_n and_o the_o maintainer_n of_o the_o single_a uncompounded_a policy_n do_v likewise_o hold_v that_o there_o be_v no_o judgement_n on_o earth_n above_o their_o particular_a congregation_n and_o that_o they_o may_v not_o commit_v any_o controversy_n of_o they_o unto_o the_o censure_n and_o decision_n of_o any_o synod_n what_o strong_a reason_n can_v mr_n c._n have_v allege_v against_o himself_o to_o show_v their_o unlawful_a government_n than_o this_o their_o denial_n of_o appeal_n iii_o let_v it_o be_v observe_v how_o foolish_o mr_n can_v cavil_v at_o my_o speech_n touch_v classical_a assembly_n and_o synod_n when_o he_o relate_v it_o thus_o the_o judicatory_a as_o mr_n paget_n phrase_n be_v belong_v unto_o they_o for_o this_o relation_n be_v false_a that_o be_v not_o my_o phrase_n but_o i_o say_v the_o judicature_n do_v belong_v unto_o they_o it_o be_v the_o simplicity_n of_o his_o informer_n or_o of_o some_o ignorant_a scribe_n that_o put_v judicatory_a for_o judicature_n as_o may_v appear_v by_o the_o writing_n i_o make_v which_o be_v yet_o to_o be_v see_v note_v mr_n c._n his_o rashness_n in_o receyve_v such_o thing_n reas._n vi_o what_o more_o meet_a and_o reasonable_a then_o that_o every_o man_n case_n be_v there_o hear_v and_o determine_v where_o the_o fault_n be_v commit_v so_o say_v 3._o say_v cypr._n li._n 1._o epist_n 3._o cyprian_n it_o be_v not_o fit_a that_o they_o over_o who_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v make_v we_o overseer_n shall_v go_v too_o &_o fro_o he_o speak_v of_o carry_v matter_n away_o from_o their_o own_o church_n unto_o other_o answ._n i._n though_o it_o be_v meet_v and_o reasonable_a that_o every_o man_n cause_n be_v first_o there_o hear_v where_o the_o fault_n be_v commit_v yet_o be_v it_o as_o reasonable_a that_o if_o either_o a_o unjust_a sentence_n be_v there_o give_v the_o innocent_a may_v in_o the_o second_o place_n have_v liberty_n of_o appeal_n from_o their_o oppressor_n or_o if_o the_o case_n be_v difficult_a and_o weighty_a that_o the_o matter_n be_v at_o first_o bring_v unto_o classical_a assembly_n according_a to_o the_o order_n of_o reform_a church_n ii_o for_o confirmation_n of_o this_o reason_n he_o bring_v no_o word_n of_o god_n but_o only_o the_o testimony_n of_o cyprian_a which_o also_o according_a to_o his_o manner_n he_o do_v most_o palpable_o abuse_v for_o cyprian_n do_v not_o simple_o blame_v those_o that_o appeal_v unto_o synod_n but_o only_o such_o as_o do_v inordinate_o run_v too_o and_o fro_o such_o as_o be_v not_o content_a with_o the_o synod_n in_o africa_n but_o sail_v over_o the_o sea_n unto_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n of_o such_o he_o there_o speak_v and_o even_o in_o the_o same_o epistle_n cyprian_n shenwe_v both_o the_o use_n of_o synod_n allow_v in_o the_o church_n of_o africa_n and_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n in_o censure_a offender_n he_o there_o give_v 11.12_o give_v lib._n 1._o e._n 3._o §_o 11.12_o instance_n of_o privatus_fw-la condemn_v in_o a_o assembly_n of_o 99_o bishop_n of_o foelix_n of_o jovinus_n &_o maximus_n exclude_v from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n by_o a_o synod_n of_o repostus_fw-la also_o censure_v in_o like_a manner_n their_o synod_n be_v not_o only_o for_o counsel_n but_o exercise_v a_o jurisdiction_n ecclesiastical_a and_o as_o they_o exercise_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n in_o bind_v obstinate_a sinner_n so_o also_o lose_v and_o absolve_v those_o that_o repent_v as_o appear_v in_o 1._o in_o lib._n 1._o ep._n 2._o §_o 1._o another_o epistle_n go_v immediate_o before_o this_o allege_a and_o write_v by_o the_o synod_n itself_o in_o the_o inscription_n of_o that_o epistle_n be_v prefix_v the_o name_n of_o cyprian_a liberalis_n caldonius_n nicomedes_n and_o caecilius_n etc._n etc._n as_o be_v special_a member_n of_o that_o synod_n and_o write_v joint_o together_o that_o synodical_a epistle_n 6._o epistle_n ibid._n n._n 6._o
abuse_n about_o excommunication_n he_o say_v can_v the_o bishop_n alone_o excommunicate_a excommunication_n do_v not_o belong_v unto_o any_o one_o man_n whosoever_o he_o be_v but_o unto_o the_o church_n by_o these_o &_o the_o like_a speech_n of_o zuinglius_fw-la it_o appear_v that_o his_o testimony_n be_v not_o prejudicial_a unto_o our_o practice_n nor_o unto_o that_o authority_n of_o synod_n which_o we_o maintain_v see_v we_o grant_v that_o no_o one_o person_n alone_o can_v by_o right_a excommunicate_a any_o man_n by_o his_o own_o authority_n neither_o can_v any_o church_n or_o church_n excommunicate_v those_o that_o be_v not_o in_o communion_n with_o they_o the_o other_o place_n cite_v out_o of_o zuinglius_fw-la touch_v the_o call_n of_o minister_n be_v so_o far_o from_o prove_v any_o thing_n against_o we_o that_o be_v due_o consider_v it_o may_v fit_o serve_v to_o blame_v those_o popular_a course_n which_o mr_n can._n plead_v for_o and_o to_o justify_v our_o practice_n in_o not_o perform_v this_o weighty_a business_n without_o the_o advice_n and_o approbation_n of_o neighbour_n minister_n assemble_v in_o the_o classis_fw-la zuinglius_fw-la in_o that_o treatise_n call_v ecclesiastes_n have_v speak_v of_o the_o popish_a tyranny_n bereave_v most_o church_n of_o the_o liberty_n of_o election_n he_o reprove_v another_o extreme_a save_v 54._o save_v eccles_n tom._n 2._o f._n 54._o if_o there_o be_v any_o church_n unto_o which_o election_n be_v yet_o leave_v free_a the_o common_a people_n rash_o without_o all_o deliberation_n and_o without_o all_o counsel_n of_o learned_a prudent_a and_o faithful_a man_n do_v choose_v those_o who_o they_o do_v most_o favour_n &_o not_o such_o as_o be_v endue_v with_o true_a virtue_n beseem_v a_o bishop_n therefore_o there_o be_v nothing_o so_o agreeable_a unto_o the_o divine_a ordinance_n and_o ancient_a institution_n as_o that_o the_o whole_a congregation_n of_o a_o faithful_a people_n together_o with_o some_o learned_a and_o godly_a bishop_n or_o other_o faithful_a and_o experience_a man_n do_v make_v choice_n of_o a_o pastor_n thus_o he_o plain_o disavow_v the_o independency_n of_o church_n in_o such_o case_n not_o allow_v a_o congregation_n to_o proceed_v unto_o the_o election_n of_o a_o minister_n without_o the_o assistance_n of_o the_o minister_n of_o other_o church_n and_o to_o this_o effect_n he_o explain_v himself_o further_a in_o the_o same_o place_n say_v it_o be_v meet_v that_o the_o power_n of_o election_n shall_v be_v in_o the_o church_n be_v furnish_v with_o the_o counsel_n of_o faithful_a and_o learned_a man_n for_o as_o that_o matter_n may_v not_o lie_v in_o the_o power_n of_o any_o one_o man_n so_o neither_o may_v the_o rude_a and_o unlearned_a multitude_n take_v upon_o they_o so_o great_a a_o weight_n of_o election_n etc._n etc._n and_o in_o the_o same_o leaf_n speak_v of_o anabaptist_n intrude_a themselves_o into_o the_o church_n of_o their_o own_o accord_n he_o prove_v that_o they_o be_v no_o lawful_a minister_n because_o they_o have_v not_o a_o due_a call_n thus_o bishop_n they_o be_v not_o for_o they_o be_v not_o choose_v of_o any_o church_n by_o lawful_a and_o unanimous_a consent_n the_o authority_n of_o other_o bishop_n excel_v in_o faith_n and_o prudence_n also_o concur_v observe_v how_o that_o with_o the_o free_a consent_n of_o the_o people_n he_o join_v not_o only_o the_o counsel_n or_o advise_v as_o he_o have_v call_v it_o before_o but_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o officer_n of_o other_o congregation_n moreover_o that_o zuinglius_fw-la do_v not_o absolute_o deny_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n though_o he_o speak_v much_o against_o popish_a synod_n may_v appear_v if_o we_o consider_v the_o reason_n which_o he_o use_v against_o they_o viz._n because_o they_o be_v not_o assemble_v in_o the_o holy_a ghost_n because_o they_o do_v not_o judge_v of_o matter_n according_a to_o the_o scripture_n but_o according_a to_o the_o ordinance_n and_o custom_n of_o man_n etc._n etc._n now_o this_o be_v not_o to_o dispute_v against_o the_o thing_n itself_o but_o against_o the_o abuse_n of_o it_o and_o therefore_o have_v speak_v against_o such_o counsel_n of_o the_o pope_n cardinal_n and_o bishop_n in_o such_o sort_n as_o mr_n can_v have_v allege_v he_o 75._o he_o ch._n pl._n p._n 75._o before_o he_o add_v withal_o expl_n withal_o art_n 8._o expl_n i_o speak_v only_o of_o these_o that_o be_v such_o my_o writing_n shall_v not_o hurt_v other_o who_o set_v themselves_o under_o the_o scripture_n not_o above_o the_o scripture_n and_o that_o these_o condition_n for_o the_o want_n whereof_o he_o oppose_v those_o popish_a synod_n may_v yet_o be_v find_v in_o other_o synod_n which_o have_v make_v decree_n for_o the_o decide_n of_o controversy_n raise_v in_o the_o church_n he_o acknowledge_v in_o these_o word_n 116._o word_n paraene_n ad_fw-la commun_n helvet_n civ_o tom._n 1._o f._n 116._o if_o the_o council_n of_o gangra_n be_v assemble_v in_o the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o no_o good_a man_n will_v deny_v while_o he_o see_v that_o the_o decree_n thereof_o do_v agree_v with_o the_o law_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o with_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostle_n it_o be_v unworthy_o do_v of_o those_o that_o come_v after_o that_o have_v disannul_v the_o decree_n thereof_o without_o be_v move_v by_o any_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n again_o in_o another_o place_n speak_v of_o the_o four_o general_n counsel_n though_o he_o just_o blame_v those_o that_o account_v they_o to_o be_v of_o equal_a authority_n with_o the_o four_o evangelist_n yet_o he_o say_v 137._o say_v archeteles_n t._n 1._o f._n 137._o true_o i_o will_v not_o have_v any_o thing_n to_o be_v detract_v from_o they_o he_o be_v not_o therefore_o of_o mr_n cannes_n mind_n who_o will_v have_v all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n to_o be_v detract_v or_o remove_v from_o synod_n beside_o zuinglius_fw-la do_v not_o only_o approve_v of_o these_o synod_n hold_v in_o former_a time_n but_o he_o also_o show_v himself_o ready_a to_o join_v in_o the_o like_a practice_n even_o in_o the_o exercise_n of_o the_o same_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n that_o be_v use_v in_o those_o synod_n for_o when_o the_o magistrate_n of_o zurich_n have_v assemble_v together_o all_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n both_o in_o their_o city_n and_o country_n and_o have_v procure_v the_o presence_n of_o divers_a other_o for_o the_o solemn_a vindicate_v of_o the_o doctrine_n teach_v in_o their_o church_n there_o faber_n vicar_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o constance_n have_v speak_v of_o a_o general_n council_n that_o it_o only_o have_v authority_n to_o determine_v these_o thing_n zuinglius_fw-la reply_n â—10_n reply_n act._n disp_n 1._o tom._n 2._o f._n â—10_n whereas_o in_o this_o our_o assembly_n there_o be_v so_o many_o right_a faithful_a man_n both_o of_o our_o own_o country_n and_o stranger_n and_o furthermore_o see_v here_o be_v so_o many_o godly_a &_o learned_a bishop_n present_a who_o doubtless_o have_v a_o desire_v not_o only_o to_o hear_v and_o understand_v but_o also_o to_o advance_v divine_a truth_n very_o i_o see_v nothing_o to_o hinder_v even_o in_o this_o place_n whereby_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v lawful_a for_o we_o according_a to_o the_o vicar_n meaning_n to_o dispute_v of_o these_o thing_n and_o to_o decree_v what_o truth_n teach_v but_o other_o nation_n he_o say_v will_v never_o consent_v unto_o these_o our_o decree_n etc._n etc._n by_o these_o and_o the_o like_a etc._n like_a ibid._n f._n 621._o etc._n etc._n passage_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o zuinglius_fw-la do_v allow_v the_o minister_n of_o several_a congregation_n assemble_v in_o a_o synod_n not_o only_o to_o consult_v and_o dispute_v but_o also_o to_o determine_v yea_o and_o to_o make_v decree_n for_o the_o remove_n of_o controversy_n &_o settle_v peace_n in_o the_o church_n while_o they_o do_v it_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n which_o be_v the_o same_o that_o we_o maintain_v the_o word_n of_o mr_n luther_n who_o he_o cite_v in_o the_o next_o place_n as_o they_o be_v to_o no_o purpose_n allege_v against_o we_o see_v they_o touch_v not_o the_o question_n as_o i_o show_v before_o so_o be_v compare_v with_o other_o his_o writing_n they_o make_v it_o appear_v that_o these_o two_o proposition_n may_v well_o stand_v together_o viz._n that_o the_o church_n have_v power_n to_o judge_v to_o call_v to_o depose_v etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o that_o all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n be_v not_o confine_v within_o the_o bound_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n but_o that_o synod_n &_o counsel_n have_v authority_n to_o judge_v of_o church_n affair_n and_o to_o censure_v offender_n forasmuch_o as_o luther_n do_v as_o plain_o and_o as_o full_o avouch_v the_o one_o as_o the_o other_o in_o the_o year_n 1518_o have_v understand_v that_o they_o proceed_v against_o he_o in_o the_o pope_n court_n at_o rome_n and_o that_o a_o unjust_a sentence_n be_v likely_a to_o
at_o frankford_n for_o whereas_o g._n johnson_n in_o a_o peculiar_a 21-73_a peculiar_a disc_n of_o troub_v in_o the_o banish_v english_a church_n at_o amsterd_n p._n 21-73_a treatise_n which_o he_o write_v against_o his_o brother_n franc._n johnson_n and_o that_o church_n of_o the_o brownist_n whereof_o he_o be_v pastor_n have_v compare_v the_o trouble_n of_o these_o two_o church_n together_o in_o the_o first_o part_n of_o this_o treatise_n which_o be_v entitle_v the_o agreement_n between_o the_o banish_a english_a church_n at_o frankford_n in_o q._n mary_n day_n and_o some_o trouble_n in_o the_o banish_a english_a church_n at_o amsterdam_n in_o q._n elizabeth_n day_n he_o bring_v more_o than_o a_o 100_o several_a instance_n to_o show_v that_o where_o any_o disorder_n scandal_n or_o offence_n be_v in_o the_o english_a church_n at_o frankford_n the_o like_a evil_n scandal_n and_o offence_n be_v also_o to_o be_v find_v and_o observe_v in_o the_o english_a church_n of_o the_o separatist_n in_o amsterdam_n and_o in_o the_o second_o part_n of_o this_o treatise_n entitle_v 73-93_a entitle_v ibid._n p._n 73-93_a difference_n between_o the_o pastor_n elder_n &_o people_n in_o the_o trouble_n at_o frankford_n in_o q._n mary_n day_n and_o the_o pastor_n elder_n and_o people_n in_o the_o trouble_n at_o amsterdam_n in_o q._n elizabeth_n day_n he_o bring_v more_o than_o 20_o several_a instance_n to_o show_v that_o the_o english_a church_n of_o the_o separation_n be_v worse_a than_o the_o other_o and_o that_o where_o divers_a good_a order_n and_o practice_n be_v in_o the_o english_a church_n at_o frankford_n the_o same_o be_v want_v in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o brownist_n at_o amsterdam_n and_o in_o particular_a let_v this_o be_v observe_v that_o concern_v the_o english_a church_n at_o frankford_n g._n johnson_n 74._o johnson_n p._n 74._o allege_v that_o there_o be_v agreement_n among_o they_o that_o the_o matter_n shall_v be_v decide_v by_o learned_a man_n but_o concern_v those_o at_o amsterdam_n he_o say_v these_o differ_v far_o from_o they_o herein_o they_o will_v not_o consent_v hereunto_o they_o will_v not_o be_v persuade_v or_o entreat_v to_o let_v the_o reform_a church_n hear_v try_v judge_n and_o end_v the_o controversy_n between_o they_o and_o we_o for_o proof_n hereof_o he_o note_v in_o his_o margin_n this_o be_v witness_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o dutch_a preacher_n give_v to_o the_o pastor_n father_n now_o instead_o of_o plead_v from_o the_o order_n of_o that_o church_n at_o frankford_n it_o have_v be_v fit_a for_o mr_n can_n to_o have_v take_v warning_n from_o these_o unparallelled_a offence_n of_o his_o predecessor_n not_o to_o maintain_v the_o like_a disorder_n or_o else_o to_o have_v answer_v these_o parallel_n and_o censure_n of_o g._n johnson_n and_o so_o to_o have_v remove_v if_o he_o can_v the_o scandal_n and_o blame_n which_o have_v so_o long_o lie_v upon_o his_o fellow_n for_o not_o answer_v this_o book_n have_v consider_v the_o particular_a testimony_n of_o nonconformist_n and_o how_o they_o have_v be_v pervert_v by_o mr_n can_n in_o apply_v they_o against_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n it_o shall_v not_o be_v amiss_o to_o add_v yet_o further_o a_o threefold_a testimony_n to_o manifest_v this_o point_n more_o clear_o and_o full_o and_o so_o to_o conclude_v this_o section_n namely_o by_o the_o petition_n of_o nonconformist_n to_o qu._n elizabeth_n and_o to_o the_o parliament_n the_o opposition_n of_o the_o prelate_n to_o the_o nonconformist_n &_o the_o scorn_n of_o the_o brownist_n against_o nonconformist_n first_o when_o as_o the_o minister_n have_v make_v request_n unto_o q._n elizabeth_n for_o reformation_n of_o thing_n amiss_o show_v how_o controversy_n may_v be_v compound_v they_o say_v 3._o say_v petit._n to_o the_o q._n most_o excellent_a maj._n p._n 3._o that_o a_o free_a nationall_n or_o provincial_n council_n at_o home_n be_v much_o to_o be_v wish_v etc._n etc._n and_o in_o a_o treatise_n annex_v thereunto_o entitle_v opinion_n of_o such_o as_o sue_v for_o reformation_n among_o other_o thing_n which_o they_o hold_v &_o sue_v for_o this_o be_v one_o 57_o one_o ibid._n §_o 19_o p_o 57_o that_o if_o any_o dissension_n grow_v or_o cause_v of_o grievance_n be_v give_v in_o any_o particular_a church_n by_o the_o minister_n or_o officer_n the_o party_n grieve_v may_v appeal_v to_o a_o particular_a synod_n from_o the_o particular_a synod_n to_o a_o provincial_n synod_n from_o a_o provincial_n synod_n to_o a_o nationall_n synod_n which_o synod_n shall_v be_v appoint_v at_o set_a time_n the_o more_o particular_a the_o synod_n be_v the_o more_o often_o for_o the_o time_n to_o be_v moderate_v by_o some_o fit_a man_n changeable_o by_o election_n that_o may_v write_v speak_v and_o pray_v in_o the_o behalf_n and_o at_o the_o direction_n of_o the_o rest_n etc._n etc._n and_o a_o little_a after_o again_o 21._o again_o §_o 21._o they_o do_v profess_v and_o protest_v that_o they_o can_v and_o will_v avow_v this_o reformation_n which_o they_o desire_v to_o be_v most_o agreeable_a to_o the_o scripture_n to_o have_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o best_a &_o most_o learned_a man_n that_o have_v be_v since_o the_o apostle_n etc._n etc._n if_o mr_n ca._n will_v not_o wink_v with_o his_o eye_n he_o may_v here_o see_v what_o reformation_n have_v be_v seek_v and_o hold_v needful_a and_o that_o jure_fw-la divino_fw-la in_o like_a manner_n mr_n travers_n testify_v of_o these_o conference_n or_o class_n &_o synod_n 1617._o synod_n eccles_n disc_n p._n 98._o with_o p_o 103._o 104._o reprin_n 1617._o that_o nothing_o can_v be_v more_o profitable_a than_o these_o assembly_n be_v so_o use_v as_o they_o be_v appoint_v to_o be_v use_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o use_v by_o other_o pure_a and_o better_a reform_a church_n etc._n etc._n and_o conclude_v that_o his_o treatise_n of_o discipline_n with_o a_o humble_a supplication_n unto_o qu._n elizabeth_n of_o happy_a memory_n for_o the_o establish_n of_o such_o a_o discipline_n in_o her_o dominion_n to_o like_o purpose_n do_v they_o write_v which_o be_v the_o author_n of_o the_o admonition_n to_o the_o parliament_n hold_v in_o the_o 13._o year_n of_o q._n eliz._n begin_o anno_fw-la 1570_o and_o end_v 1571._o they_o 1617._o they_o admon_n to_o parl._n p._n 51_o 52._o ed._n 1617._o describe_v the_o platform_n of_o 2_o church_n reform_v and_o present_v their_o desire_n to_o the_o consideration_n of_o the_o parliament_n do_v therein_o commend_v the_o use_n of_o conference_n and_o of_o synod_n provincial_n nationall_n and_o general_n for_o determine_v the_o weighty_a cause_n which_o can_v not_o be_v end_v in_o particular_a church_n and_o they_o require_v that_o man_n shall_v stand_v unto_o these_o determination_n unless_o they_o can_v be_v show_v to_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n second_o such_o as_o have_v be_v special_a maintainer_n of_o the_o prelacy_n do_v confess_v and_o testify_v that_o the_o minister_n which_o seek_v for_o reformation_n do_v therein_o seek_v for_o government_n of_o the_o church_n by_o class_n and_o synod_n and_o that_o not_o for_o counsel_v only_o but_o to_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o particular_a church_n and_o to_o censure_v such_o person_n as_o be_v find_v guilty_a it_o be_v by_o one_o of_o they_o manifest_v in_o a_o special_a 2-15_a special_a danger_n positio_fw-la for_o presbyteri_fw-la governm_fw-la l._n 3._o c._n 2-15_a record_n that_o when_o divers_a minister_n not_o conform_v be_v cast_v into_o prison_n and_o some_o of_o they_o bring_v into_o the_o star-chamber_n and_o examine_v upon_o their_o oath_n they_o declare_v the_o earnest_a endeavour_n of_o many_o minister_n for_o the_o obtain_n of_o class_n and_o there_o among_o such_o as_o give_v pregnant_a testimony_n in_o allowance_n of_o classical_a government_n be_v nominate_v these_o follow_v mr_n chark_n mr_n travers_n mr_n gardiner_n mr_n barber_n mr_n chester_n mr_n crook_n mr_n egerton_n mr_n field_n mr_n wilcox_n mr_n standen_n mr_n jackson_n mr_n bonham_n mr_n crane_n mr_n sâ—inctloe_n mr_n edward_n mr_n cholmeley_n mr_n wright_n mr_n gifford_n mr_n gelibrand_n mr_n west_n mr_n browne_n mr_n knewstubs_n mr_n wight_n mr_n walker_n mr_n cartwright_n mr_n fen_n mr_n oxenbridge_n mr_n perkins_n mr_n allen_n mr_n dike_n mr_n culverwell_n etc._n etc._n and_o about_o northamptonshire_n alone_o be_v 77_o be_v ib._n p._n 77_o record_v more_o than_o 20_o of_o this_o mind_n about_o northampton_n mr_n snape_n mr_n penrie_n mr_n sibthorp_n mr_n edward_n mr_n litlâ—ton_n mr_n bradshaw_n mr_n lark_n mr_n fleshware_fw-mi mr_n spicer_n etc._n etc._n about_o daventrie_n mr_n barbon_n mr_n rogers_n mr_n king_n mr_n smart_n mr_n sharp_a mr_n promdlos_n mr_n elliston_n etc._n etc._n about_o kettr_n mr_n stone_n mr_n williamson_n mr_n fawsbrook_n mr_n patinson_n mr_n massey_n etc._n etc._n the_o law_n rule_n and_o order_n both_o in_o class_n and_o in_o synod_n describe_v in_o
elder_n and_o shepherd_n of_o the_o church_n in_o jerusalem_n do_v undertake_v the_o care_n and_o exercise_v with_o other_o authority_n in_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o the_o church_n of_o antioch_n it_o be_v against_o sense_n against_o nature_n against_o scripture_n but_o that_o the_o member_n of_o the_o body_n shall_v have_v care_n one_o for_o another_o 1._o cor._n 12.25_o etc._n etc._n iu._n the_o use_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n for_o counsel_n and_o admonition_n be_v allow_v by_o my_o opposite_n and_o yet_o the_o care_n and_o labour_n therein_o for_o travel_v to_o meet_v in_o such_o assembly_n for_o deliberation_n for_o dispute_v for_o convince_a such_o as_o they_o admonish_v and_o their_o counsel_n give_v unto_o church_n for_o the_o reject_v of_o heretic_n and_o other_o obstinate_a offender_n more_o or_o less_o be_v as_o great_a in_o effect_n as_o if_o they_o shall_v give_v definitive_a sentence_n therein_o as_o little_a distraction_n arise_v from_o one_o work_v as_o from_o the_o other_o to_o counsel_v a_o church_n to_o excommunicate_v a_o sinner_n be_v as_o great_a a_o burden_n and_o labour_n for_o a_o synod_n as_o if_o they_o shall_v pronounce_v the_o sentence_n themselves_o v._o it_o do_v least_o of_o all_o become_v mr_n can_n to_o plead_v and_o reason_n on_o this_o manner_n if_o nature_n have_v ordain_v one_o to_o one_o as_o he_o argue_v out_o of_o aristotle_n though_o in_o his_o quotation_n he_o forget_v to_o tell_v where_o then_o must_v mr_n can_v be_v a_o man_n against_o nature_n above_o many_o other_o in_o transgress_v the_o law_n and_o ordinance_n of_o nature_n how_o dare_v he_o take_v the_o pastoral_a charge_n of_o a_o church_n upon_o he_o and_o this_o alone_a without_o assistance_n of_o a_o eldership_n and_o yet_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n undertake_v the_o care_n and_o charge_n of_o divers_a other_o trade_n as_o of_o a_o printer_n workhouse_n in_o one_o place_n of_o a_o brandery_a or_o aquavitae_n shop_n in_o another_o place_n and_o special_o of_o a_o alchemist_n laboratory_n in_o another_o place_n be_v this_o paragon_n of_o the_o separation_n a_o fit_a man_n to_o be_v a_o advocate_n or_o patron_n of_o the_o church_n to_o write_v a_o book_n and_o entitle_v it_o the_o church_n plea_n whereas_o if_o his_o example_n be_v follow_v it_o will_v bring_v confusion_n upon_o all_o church_n and_o on_o all_o the_o minister_n thereof_o what_o pluralist_n or_o nonresident_a be_v there_o that_o will_v not_o think_v he_o have_v some_o colour_n to_o justify_v himself_o from_o this_o practice_n of_o mr_n can_n reas._n iii_o be_v it_o a_o like_a thing_n that_o the_o classical_a power_n shall_v be_v of_o god_n approve_v and_o yet_o he_o never_o mention_v it_o in_o his_o word_n this_o argument_n the_o hierarchy_n use_v against_o popish_a office_n and_o the_o reformist_n against_o they_o now_o let_v the_o discreet_a reader_n judge_n if_o it_o prove_v not_o the_o point_n in_o hand_n as_o well_o here_o i_o may_v not_o omit_v zwinglius_fw-la his_fw-la speech_n speak_v of_o synod_n expl_n synod_n zwingl_n art_n 8._o expl_n we_o willing_o believe_v say_v he_o that_o you_o be_v a_o representative_a church_n for_o a_o true_a church_n you_o be_v not_o but_o i_o pray_v you_o show_v we_o whence_o you_o fetch_v this_o name_n who_o have_v give_v you_o this_o name_n who_o have_v give_v you_o power_n to_o make_v canon_n impose_v thing_n on_o man_n shoulder_n grieve_v their_o conscience_n etc._n etc._n answ._n i._n this_o reason_n be_v in_o substance_n the_o same_o with_o his_o five_o argument_n before_o and_o therefore_o idle_o repeat_v the_o ground_n of_o classical_a power_n be_v show_v 4._o show_v chap._n 2._o &_o 3_o &_o 4._o before_o from_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o cavil_v of_o mr_n can_n against_o the_o same_o refute_v ii_o note_v his_o error_n of_o speech_n in_o distinguish_v the_o hierarchy_n from_o popish_a office_n by_o oppose_v they_o one_o against_o the_o other_o whereas_o according_a to_o the_o common_a acception_n of_o the_o word_n the_o hierarchy_n do_v consist_v in_o the_o popish_a office_n and_o the_o corruption_n of_o office_n which_o he_o intend_v be_v but_o a_o fragment_n thereof_o and_o therefore_o ought_v not_o to_o carry_v the_o name_n rather_o than_o the_o whole_a when_o both_o be_v speak_v of_o together_o otherwise_o in_o proper_a speech_n the_o true_a hierarchy_n import_v the_o lawful_a office_n and_o government_n prescribe_v in_o the_o scripture_n iii_o that_o which_o he_o allege_v out_o of_o zwinglius_fw-la touch_v a_o representative_a church_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o romish_a church_n and_o of_o the_o popish_a government_n for_o against_o they_o do_v zwinglius_fw-la then_o write_v and_o against_o they_o there_o be_v just_a cause_n to_o complain_v so_o as_o he_o do_v iv_o if_o any_o think_v that_o by_o representative_a church_n he_o mean_v all_o synod_n whatsoever_o that_o exercise_v ecclesiastical_a authority_n in_o the_o judge_n of_o cause_n then_o against_o the_o testimony_n of_o zwinglius_fw-la we_o oppose_v the_o testimony_n of_o all_o age_n and_o of_o the_o learned_a writer_n therein_o old_a and_o new_a papist_n and_o protestant_n that_o general_o be_v against_o he_o mr_n parker_n 369._o parker_n pol._n ecc._n l._n 3._o c._n 26._o p._n 368_o 369._o say_v well_o all_o age_n have_v call_v the_o synod_n a_o representative_a church_n &_o beside_o many_o other_o witness_n he_o allege_v d._n whitaker_n argue_v thus_o against_o the_o papist_n 169._o papist_n de_fw-fr conc_fw-fr qu._n 5._o c._n 3._o p._n 169._o the_o church_n be_v represent_v in_o the_o synod_n therefore_o if_o the_o church_n be_v above_o peter_n then_o be_v the_o synod_n also_o mr_n parker_n argue_v further_a except_o the_o synod_n do_v consist_v of_o the_o deputy_n of_o church_n synod_n can_v not_o represent_v the_o church_n and_o have_v there_o bring_v many_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n to_o show_v the_o power_n of_o church_n in_o send_v their_o deputy_n or_o delegate_n he_o conclude_v in_o the_o word_n of_o d._n whitaker_n 103._o whitaker_n qu._n 3._o c._n 3._o p._n 103._o whosoever_o be_v send_v of_o the_o church_n he_o represent_v the_o person_n of_o the_o church_n but_o touch_v the_o judgement_n of_o zwinglius_fw-la more_fw-mi hereafter_o when_o he_o be_v again_o allege_a by_o mr_n can_n reas._n iu._n 76._o iu._n church_n plea_n p._n 76._o whosoever_o shall_v deny_v our_o aforesaid_a assertion_n must_v of_o necessity_n hold_v two_o distinct_a form_n of_o church-government_n one_o wherein_n particular_a congregation_n do_v in_o and_o of_o themselves_o exercise_v all_o god_n ordinance_n the_o other_o where_o they_o stand_v under_o another_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o now_o to_o hold_v this_o be_v direct_o all_o one_o as_o to_o hold_v two_o way_n to_o heaven_n distinct_a and_o opposite_a in_o themselves_o which_o be_v very_o scandalous_a in_o religion_n and_o that_o which_o can_v stand_v with_o truth_n answ._n i._n whatsoever_o mr_n can_v here_o affirm_v be_v but_o his_o bare_a assertion_n without_o scripture_n or_o other_o proof_n to_o confirm_v his_o reason_n but_o mr_n can._n be_v not_o yet_o come_v to_o such_o credit_n with_o we_o that_o his_o ipse_fw-la dixit_fw-la his_o bare_a word_n may_v go_v for_o currant_n ii_o it_o be_v false_a which_o he_o say_v of_o hold_v two_o distinct_a form_n of_o church-government_n etc._n etc._n the_o particular_a congregation_n here_o in_o these_o reform_a church_n do_v in_o and_o of_o themselves_o exercise_v all_o god_n ordinance_n and_o yet_o withal_o stand_v under_o another_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o synodall_n authority_n be_v one_o of_o god_n ordinance_n though_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o local_a and_o personal_a presence_n of_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n this_o authority_n be_v exercise_v out_o of_o themselves_o yet_o in_o regard_n of_o their_o confederation_n and_o combination_n with_o neighbour_n church_n and_o in_o regard_n of_o their_o deputy_n minister_n and_o elder_n or_o other_o that_o have_v place_n and_o suffrage_n in_o these_o synod_n this_o authority_n be_v exercise_v in_o and_o of_o themselves_o and_o though_o here_o be_v another_o act_n of_o authority_n yet_o be_v there_o but_o one_o distinct_a form_n of_o government_n iii_o it_o be_v as_o false_a which_o he_o say_v of_o hold_v two_o way_n to_o heaven_n and_o this_o not_o only_o in_o respect_n of_o these_o reform_a church_n among_o themselves_o have_v the_o same_o government_n both_o by_o eldership_n at_o home_n and_o by_o synod_n abroad_o but_o also_o in_o respect_n of_o divers_a church_n have_v different_a form_n of_o government_n the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o of_o these_o country_n though_o they_o have_v a_o different_a order_n of_o church-government_n yet_o hold_v together_o the_o same_o fundamental_a truth_n of_o the_o gospellâ—_n they_o both_o do_v hold_v but_o one_o way_n to_o heaven_n and_o so_o do_v both_o mutual_o