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A90624 A vindication of The preacher sent, or A vvarrant for publick preaching without ordination. Wherein is further discovered. 1. That some gifted men unordained, are Gospel preachers. 2. That officers sustain not a relation (as officers) to the universal Church; and other weighty questions concerning election and ordination, are opened and cleared. In answer to two books. 1. Vindiciæ ministrij evangelici revindicatæ or the Preacher (pretendly) sent, sent back again. By Dr. Colling of Norwich. 2. Quo warranto, or a moderate enquiry into the warrantableness of the preaching of gifted and unordained persons. By Mr. Pool, at the desire and appointment of the Provincial Assembly of London. With a reply to the exceptions of Mr. Hudson and Dr. Collings against the epistle to the preacher sent. / Published by Frederick Woodal, minister of the Gospel at Woodbridge in Suffolk. Samuel Petto minister of the GospeI [sic] at Sandcraft in Suffolk. Woodall, Frederick, b. 1614.; Petto, Samuel, 1624?-1711. 1659 (1659) Wing P1902; Thomason E1728_2; ESTC R204138 152,808 253

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upon_o himself_o &_o say_v how_o can_v a_o man_n preach_v but_o he_o must_v preach_v in_o this_o or_o that_o place_n quod_fw-la nusquam_fw-la fit_a non_fw-la fit_n so_o that_o the_o contradiction_n if_o it_o be_v one_o be_v as_o much_o he_o as_o we_o 2_o it_o be_v his_o gross_a mistake_n to_o say_v that_o we_o be_v guilty_a of_o selfe-contradiction_n in_o the_o other_o two_o particular_n which_o he_o mention_v pag._n 163._o for_o what_o he_o rehearse_v out_o of_o our_o book_n pag._n 300._o to_o make_v one_o part_n of_o the_o contradiction_n be_v a_o objection_n of_o they_o they_o be_v not_o our_o word_n but_o the_o word_n of_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n jus._n divin_n min._n pag._n 133._o and_o that_o which_o he_o make_v the_o other_o part_n of_o the_o contradiction_n be_v our_o answer_n to_o the_o aforesaid_a objection_n and_o so_o we_o do_v but_o oppose_v they_o pag._n 302._o not_o contradict_v ourselves_o they_o be_v their_o word_n from_o p._n 300._o l._n 21._o to_o p._n 301._o 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pag._n 35._o deny_v the_o major_a and_o say_v a_o minister_n be_v not_o oblige_v actual_o to_o feed_v all_o his_o flock_n and_o add_v every_o apostle_n be_v a_o catholics_n pastor_n and_o so_o have_v the_o whole_a church_n for_o his_o flock_n mat._n 28._o 19_o 20._o but_o every_o apostle_n be_v not_o oblige_v actual_o to_o feed_v the_o whole_a church_n and_o all_o nation_n etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o his_o denial_n of_o the_o major_n be_v little_o better_a than_o a_o denial_n of_o the_o very_a word_n of_o scripture_n for_o the_o apostle_n say_v act_n 20._o 28._o take_v heed_n to_o all_o the_o flock_n over_o the_o which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v make_v you_o overseer_n to_o feed_v the_o church_n etc._n etc._n be_v it_o not_o plain_a that_o actual_a feed_n be_v enjoin_v and_o that_o not_o only_o some_o but_o all_o a_o man_n flock_n be_v thus_o to_o be_v say_v 2._o this_o do_v not_o answer_v our_o argument_n but_o leave_v we_o under_o a_o new_a seem_a difficulty_n 3._o if_o his_o reason_n shall_v be_v whole_o grant_v we_o do_v not_o see_v how_o it_o justify_v his_o denial_n of_o our_o major_n or_o take_v away_o the_o force_n of_o our_o argument_n and_o have_v he_o not_o leave_v out_o the_o conclusion_n of_o his_o syllogism_n he_o may_v easy_o have_v see_v it_o himself_o for_o the_o utmost_a he_o can_v conclude_v from_o those_o premise_n be_v but_o this_o ergo_fw-la every_o catholic_a pastor_n who_o have_v the_o whole_a church_n for_o his_o flock_n be_v not_o oblige_v actual_o to_o feed_v the_o whole_a church_n all_o nation_n etc._n etc._n and_o what_o be_v all_o this_o to_o the_o purpose_n if_o every_o catholic_a pastor_n or_o every_o one_o who_o have_v the_o whole_a church_n for_o his_o flock_n be_v not_o will_v it_o follow_v hence_o that_o no_o officer_n be_v oblige_v actual_o to_o feed_v all_o his_o flock_n may_v there_o not_o be_v some_o officer_n who_o have_v no_o such_o large_a flock_n and_o may_v stand_v under_o such_o obligation_n if_o every_o apostle_n be_v not_o yet_o may_v not_o every_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v oblige_v actual_o to_o feed_v all_o his_o flock_n what_o shadow_n ofa_fw-mi consequence_n be_v here_o this_o may_v be_v enough_o in_o answer_n to_o that_o which_o he_o suppose_v to_o be_v a_o unanswerable_a reason_n but_o that_o his_o reason_n take_v not_o away_o the_o force_n of_o our_o argument_n we_o may_v evidence_n these_o way_n 1._o because_o the_o impossibility_n of_o every_o apostle_n look_v to_o all_o the_o church_n be_v the_o reason_n which_o himself_o give_v pag._n 7_o 8._o why_o they_o do_v it_o not_o but_o our_o argument_n be_v draw_v from_o a_o command_n to_o ordinary_a officer_n fix_v in_o a_o particular_a church_n all_o which_o it_o be_v possible_a for_o they_o actual_o to_o feed_v and_o so_o the_o case_n run_v not_o parallel_v and_o that_o a_o universal_a church_n shall_v be_v their_o flock_n the_o hundred_o it_o may_v be_v the_o thousand_o part_n whereof_o by_o reason_n of_o their_o fixedness_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n they_o can_v never_o feed_v and_o yet_o be_v command_v to_o feed_v all_o their_o flock_n who_o can_v imagine_v it_o or_o do_v not_o such_o a_o command_v rather_o determine_v their_o particular_a flock_n to_o be_v all_o over_o which_o they_o be_v make_v overseer_n 2._o because_o the_o apostle_n have_v immediate_a direction_n from_o god_n which_o give_v they_o a_o dispensation_n for_o a_o actual_a feed_v every_o church_n 3._o because_o if_o every_o apostle_n be_v not_o command_v actual_o to_o feed_v all_o that_o flock_n or_o all_z those_o church_n that_o they_o have_v liberty_n by_o their_o commission_n to_o act_v as_o officer_n towards_o seeing_z every_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v command_v to_o feed_v all_o the_o flock_n he_o be_v a_o overseer_n to_o acts._n 20._o 28._o hence_o his_o suppose_a unanswerable_a reason_n fail_v in_o the_o main_a thing_n it_o shall_v prove_v if_o mat._n 28._o 19_o 20._o be_v speak_v to_o this_o or_o that_o apostle_n single_o than_o that_o be_v a_o command_n of_o actual_a teach_n and_o baptise_v every_o apostle_n be_v oblige_v actual_o to_o feed_v or_o teach_v all_o nation_n and_o then_o his_o minor_a be_v untrue_a but_o if_o it_o be_v speak_v to_o all_o the_o apostle_n together_o v._o 16._o 19_o 20._o then_o if_o every_o apostle_n be_v not_o oblige_v actual_o to_o feed_v all_o church_n or_o all_o nation_n yet_o all_o the_o apostle_n together_o do_v actual_o feed_v all_o the_o church_n in_o that_o age_n and_o be_v oblige_v to_o do_v it_o and_o all_o officer_n together_o in_o after_o age_n be_v under_o the_o like_a obligation_n yet_o no_o one_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v oblige_v actual_o to_o teach_v all_o nation_n but_o every_o one_o be_v bind_v to_o feed_v all_o the_o flock_n over_o which_o he_o be_v make_v a_o overseer_n arg._n 2._o if_o officer_n now_o be_v actual_o to_o feed_v and_o take_v care_n of_o all_o the_o universal_a church_n than_o their_o power_n be_v as_o extensive_a &_o large_a as_o the_o apostle_n etc._n etc._n pr●_n sent._n p._n 11._o obj._n the_o difference_n between_o apostolical_a and_o pastoral_a power_n lie_v not_o in_o the_o extent_n of_o their_o relation_n but_o in_o the_o independency_n superiority_n and_o singularity_n of_o jurisdiction_n mr._n pool_n pag._n 36._o answ_n 1._o if_o this_o be_v true_a yet_o it_o prove_v what_o we_o produce_v it_o for_o viz._n that_o no_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v command_v actual_o to_o feed_v and_o take_v heed_n to_o all_o the_o unisal_n church_n for_o himself_o grant_v pag._n 6._o that_o it_o be_v peculiar_a to_o the_o apostle_n to_o be_v actual_o minister_n to_o the_o whole_a church_n 2._o but_o that_o the_o difference_n between_o apostolical_a and_o pastoral_a power_n lie_v not_o in_o the_o extent_n of_o their_o relation_n seem_v to_o we_o very_o false_a for_o 1._o apostle_n have_v universality_n of_o jurisdiction_n ergo_fw-la apostles_n have_v generality_n of_o relation_n ordinary_a officer_n have_v not_o universality_n of_o jurisdiction_n ergo_fw-la ordinary_a officer_n have_v not_o generality_n of_o relation_n nomans_n jurisdiction_n can_v be_v extend_v beyond_o his_o relation_n and_o therefore_o none_o can_v deny_v the_o apostle_n universality_n of_o relation_n and_o that_o ordinary_a officer_n have_v so_o extensive_a a_o jurisdiction_n let_v he_o prove_v that_o will_v assert_v it_o 2._o as_o apostles_n have_v general_a relation_n so_o they_o be_v under_o obligation_n to_o actual_a discharge_n of_o the_o duty_n of_o the_o relation_n in_o like_a extent_n 2_o corin._n 11._o 28._o and_o so_o be_v the_o church_n towards_o they_o but_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v not_o under_o a_o obligation_n for_o the_o actual_a discharge_n of_o the_o duty_n of_o their_o relation_n to_o all_o church_n as_o we_o have_v already_o prove_v from_o act_n 20_o 28._o 1_o pet._n 5._o 2._o neither_o be_v all_o church_n under_o such_o obligation_n to_o duty_n towards_o they_o as_o their_o officer_n either_o ●o_o submit_v or_o afford_v maintenance_n etc._n etc._n to_o they_o and_o therefore_o ordinary_a officer_n relation_n do_v not_o extend_v to_o all_o church_n 3._o apostle_n general_a relation_n oblige_v they_o to_o a_o itinerant_a execution_n of_o their_o office_n so_o as_o they_o can_v not_o fix_v in_o any_o church_n but_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v not_o engage_v to_o such_o a_o execution_n but_o by_o divine_a appointment_n be_v fix_v in_o some_o one_o church_n and_o be_v bind_v there_o to_o reside_v which_o be_v inconsistent_a with_o such_o a_o relation_n as_o the_o apostle_n have_v 4._o the_o general_a relation_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v so_o special_a as_o all_o church_n may_v plead_v a_o like_a interest_n in_o they_o and_o call_v they_o their_o officer_n with_o ordinary_a officer_n it_o be_v not_o so_o our_o brethren_n themselves_o be_v judge_n jus_fw-la diu._n min._n pag._n 143._o if_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v not_o equal_o relate_v to_o all_o church_n they_o be_v not_o at_o all_o relate_v to_o they_o for_o relation_n do_v not_o suscipere_fw-la magis_fw-la &_o minus_fw-la unless_o the_o subject_n or_o foundation_n be_v mutable_a arg._n 3._o minister_n be_v pastor_n only_o to_o they_o who_o they_o can_v exercise_v church_n government_n towards_o as_o well_o as_o teach_v obj._n then_o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o preach_v as_o officer_n to_o heathen_n for_o towards_o such_o they_o can_v not_o exercise_v church-governement_n mr._n pool_n p._n 37._o ans_fw-fr if_o apostles_n do_v preach_v as_o officer_n over_o heathen_n it_o do_v arise_v from_o the_o extraordinariness_n of_o their_o office_n for_o no_o ordinary_a officer_n civil_a or_o military_a can_v act_v as_o officer_n towards_o any_o that_o they_o can_v govern_v and_o have_v the_o rule_n over_o and_o be_v over_o other_o in_o the_o lord_n be_v make_v the_o specificate_a distinguish_a character_n of_o ordinary_a officer_n from_o such_o as_o
their_o argument_n against_o gift_a man_n preach_v without_o ordination_n he_o rehearse_v our_o argument_n leave_v out_o a_o great_a part_n of_o their_o strength_n and_o put_v in_o his_o own_o exception_n against_o they_o and_o then_o mention_v the_o head_n of_o their_o argument_n without_o our_o exception_n against_o they_o and_o yet_o pretend_v pag._n 116._o not_o to_o take_v at_o advantage_n but_o to_o set_v the_o best_a gloss_n upon_o our_o cause_n in_o which_o sure_o no_o reader_n will_v believe_v he_o chap._n xii_o concern_v election_n as_o belong_v to_o a_o particular_a church_n there_o be_v three_o scripture_n chief_o urge_v to_o prove_v the_o power_n of_o election_n to_o belong_v to_o a_o church_n viz._n act._n 1._o act_n 6._o and_o act._n 14._o many_o of_o our_o answer_n to_o objection_n against_o these_o proof_n we_o have_v no_o reply_n to_o and_o so_o we_o shall_v but_o touch_v upon_o thing_n here_o and_o refer_v the_o reader_n unto_o our_o former_a book_n and_o to_o our_o reply_n to_o dr._n collings_n for_o a_o full_a answer_n 1._o the_o first_o scripture_n be_v act._n 1._o 23._o object_n it_o be_v not_o a_o exhortation_n to_o choose_v nor_o a_o direction_n in_o choose_v here_o be_v not_o a_o word_n of_o the_o piety_n etc._n etc._n of_o the_o person_n but_o only_o a_o declaration_n that_o one_o must_v be_v choose_v etc._n etc._n however_o it_o be_v fit_v the_o people_n shall_v consent_v pag._n 120._o answ_n 1._o here_o he_o plain_o contradict_v the_o provincial_a assembly_n for_o he_o say_v it_o be_v not_o a_o direction_n in_o choose_v they_o say_v jus_fw-la divin_n min._n pag._n 127._o they_o be_v guide_v and_o direct_v in_o their_o choice_n by_o the_o eleven_o apostle_n and_o seek_v to_o prove_v it_o from_o ver_fw-la 21_o 22._o how_o shall_v we_o answer_v both_o 2._o qualification_n be_v set_v down_o ver_fw-la 21._o and_o the_o man_n and_o brethren_n in_o the_o meeting_n be_v speak_v to_o ver_fw-la 16._o it_o be_v clear_a that_o they_o be_v the_o person_n choose_v ver_fw-la 23._o 2._o the_o second_o place_n be_v act._n 6._o object_n 1._o regulation_n by_o dead_a law_n and_o rule_n be_v no_o prejudice_n to_o the_o people_n sole_a power_n in_o election_n but_o a_o regulation_n by_o live_a judge_n do_v destroy_v it_o if_o the_o apostle_n have_v refuse_v any_o of_o those_o choose_v by_o the_o people_n upon_o just_a ground_n will_v they_o have_v be_v deacon_n if_o not_o than_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n consist_v not_o in_o election_n mr._n pool_n pag._n 121._o answ_n 1._o paul_n be_v as_o much_o a_o live_a judge_n when_o he_o do_v write_v ●o_o timothy_n and_o titus_n as_o the_o apostle_n be_v act_v 6._o yet_o he_o give_v rule_n for_o regulation_n 1_o tim._n 3._o ver_fw-la 2._o 3._o tit._n 〈◊〉_d ver_fw-la 6●_n and_o if_o ordination_n be_v aim_v at_o here_o either_o these_o rule_n of_o regulation_n destroy_v the_o power_n of_o timothy_n and_o titus_n in_o ordination_n or_o else_o those_o rule_n act_n 6._o do_v not_o destroy_v the_o people_n power_n of_o election_n and_o we_o may_v turn_v his_o question_n upon_o he_o if_o paul_n have_v upon_o just_a ground_n refuse_v any_o of_o those_o ordain_v by_o timothy_n and_o titus_n will_v they_o have_v be_v officer_n if_o not_o then_o according_a to_o his_o argue_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n consist_v not_o in_o ordination_n 2._o if_o they_o choose_v person_n due_o qualify_v the_o apostle_n can_v not_o refuse_v they_o 3._o if_o the_o apostle_n have_v a_o negative_a voice_n in_o case_n person_n be_v not_o right_o qualify_v yet_o that_o will_v not_o deny_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o election_n to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n for_o their_o affirmitive_a voice_n may_v be_v only_o causa_fw-la sine_fw-la qua_fw-la non_fw-la not_o causa_fw-la formalis_fw-la of_o the_o election_n as_o himself_o tell_v we_o pag._n 13●_n we_o may_v urge_v his_o instance_n there_o against_o what_o he_o say_v here_o and_o they_o will_v be_v as_o strong_a for_o we_o as_o for_o he_o and_o this_o answer_v what_o follow_v if_o the_o apostle_n refuse_v any_o choose_v will_v have_v hinder_v their_o be_v deacon_n as_o p._n 121._o or_o the_o want_n of_o ordination_n will_v have_v make_v election_n null_n as_o he_o say_v pag._n 122._o yet_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n may_v consist_v in_o election_n for_o their_o approbation_n or_o ordination_n may_v be_v only_o causa_fw-la sine_fw-la qua_fw-la non_fw-la they_o may_v not_o be_v essential_a though_o they_o can_v not_o be_v without_o they_o but_o it_o be_v he_o that_o forget_v not_o we_o for_o the_o present_a question_n be_v about_o the_o people_n power_n of_o choose_v not_o about_o election_n as_o essential_a to_o a_o call_v nor_o of_o apostle_n power_n in_o election_n as_o to_o what_o he_o add_v pag._n 123._o about_o argue_v a_o minori_fw-la ad_fw-la majus_fw-la affirmative_a we_o answer_v it_o be_v mr._n pool_n that_o run_v upon_o the_o gross_a mistake_n for_o our_o argument_n be_v fetch_v from_o the_o same_o canon_n that_o there_o be_v be_v as_o any_o one_o may_v plain_o see_v preacher_n sent._n pag._n 224._o and_o whether_o the_o argument_n from_o the_o great_a to_o the_o less_o affirmative_o be_v not_o urge_v in_o the_o scripture_n we_o mention_v pag._n 226._o let_v the_o reader_n judge_n object_n 2._o there_o be_v another_o canon_n and_o that_o be_v this_o quod_fw-la competit_fw-la minori_fw-la competit_fw-la e●iam_fw-la majori_fw-la if_o ordination_n be_v require_v to_o the_o mean_a and_o less_o considerable_a office_n which_o be_v that_o of_o the_o deacon_n much_o more_o be_v it_o require_v to_o that_o which_o be_v the_o great_a and_o weighty_a office_n and_o this_o be_v the_o argument_n use_v by_o the_o assembly_n mr._n pool_n pag._n 123._o answ_n our_o argument_n will_v stand_v upon_o this_o foot_n he_o can_v get_v nothing_o by_o this_o for_o the_o canon_n will_v serve_v we_o what_o he_o say_v of_o ordination_n we_o may_v say_v of_o election_n if_o the_o people_n election_n be_v require_v to_o the_o mean_a and_o less_o considerable_a office_n which_o be_v that_o of_o deacon_n much_o more_o be_v it_o require_v to_o that_o which_o be_v the_o great_a and_o might_a office_n 3._o the_o three_o text_n be_v act._n 14._o ver_fw-la 23._o to_o his_o exception_n we_o answer_v 1._o that_o the_o usual_a signification_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v to_o choose_v by_o suffrage_n and_o without_o special_a reason_n we_o must_v not_o recede_v from_o that_o and_o many_o reason_n we_o give_v against_o its_o denote_v a_o choose_n or_o ordain_v only_o by_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n 2._o the_o word_n be_v apply_v to_o god_n act._n 10._o 44._o it_o must_v needs_o be_v take_v figurative_o and_o as_o there_o it_o do_v not_o denote_v choose_v by_o suffrage_n so_o neither_o can_v it_o be_v take_v for_o imposition_n of_o hand_n for_o god_n have_v no_o hand_n to_o lay_v on_o 3._o the_o word_n be_v but_o once_o more_o use_v that_o we_o know_v of_o in_o scripture_n and_o then_o it_o be_v apply_v to_o the_o church_n so_o that_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n use_v of_o it_o the_o advantage_n be_v on_o our_o part_n 2_o cor._n 8._o 19_o he_o think_v the_o people_n do_v not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o object_n 1._o they_o be_v say_v to_o ordain_v they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o to_o themselves_o mr._n pool_n pag._n 125._o ans_fw-fr he_o confess_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v take_v for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o therefore_o this_o can_v deny_v it_o to_o be_v the_o people_n or_o church_n act._n object_n 2._o the_o same_o person_n be_v say_v to_o ordain_v in_o several_a city_n and_o church_n and_o so_o have_v a_o authority_n over_o several_a church_n pag._n 25._o answ_n 1._o if_o the_o person_n be_v the_o same_o yet_o 1._o they_o do_v not_o as_o the_o manner_n of_o some_o be_v ordain_v in_o one_o church_n ●or_a another_o at_o lystra_n for_o antioch_n but_o in_o every_o church_n respective_o it_o be_v not_o all_o upon_o one_o day_n 2._o they_o be_v say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d who_o go_v before_o other_o and_o be_v chief_a in_o choose_v 2._o it_o be_v not_o evident_a that_o the_o person_n be_v the_o same_o i●_n a_o parliament_n be_v to_o be_v choose_v and_o the_o supreme_a magistrate_n shall_v send_v man_n into_o the_o several_a county_n to_o observe_v the_o people_n election_n it_o may_v be_v say_v as_o it_o be_v here_o and_o when_o they_o have_v choose_v they_o parliament_n man_n by_o suffrage_n in_o every_o county_n etc._n etc._n though_o those_o man_n so_o send_v have_v no_o hand_n in_o the_o election_n so_o if_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n have_v be_v only_a spectator_n and_o eye-witness_n of_o the_o several_a church_n election_n yet_o all_o may_v have_v be_v say_v
correlate_n of_o the_o pastoral_n office_n ib._n 3._o he_o say_v of_o a_o excomunicate_a person_n that_o while_o he_o repent_v not_o he_o be_v to_o be_v look_v upon_o after_o a_o sort_n as_o a_o unbaptised_a person_n or_o as_o a_o heathen_a yet_o when_o he_o do_v repent_v he_o need_v no_o new_a baptism_n forasmuch_o as_o god_n be_v please_v to_o impute_v to_o he_o his_o former_a baptism_n pa._n 27._o 4._o he_o say_v that_o the_o difference_n between_o apostolical_a and_o pastoral_a power_n lie_v not_o in_o the_o extent_n of_o their_o relation_n pa._n 36._o 5._o he_o say_v vzzah_n be_v punish_v not_o principal_o at_o least_o not_o sole_o because_o he_o do_v touch_v the_o ark_n with_o his_o head_n but_o because_o he_o do_v not_o bear_v it_o upon_o his_o shoulder_n pag._n 99_o which_o be_v against_o 1_o chron._n 13._o 10._o 6._o he_o be_v not_o positive_a in_o it_o but_o give_v it_o as_o his_o opinion_n that_o apostle_n have_v not_o their_o commission_n as_o apostle_n till_o mat._n 28._o pag._n 105_o 106._o 2._o self-contradicting_a passage_n 1._o that_o a_o man_n be_v make_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n by_o baptism_n be_v none_o of_o our_o assertion_n pag._n 23._o 1._o what_o a_o monstrous_a paradox_n be_v this_o baptism_n make_v not_o a_o man_n to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o any_o church_n p._n 28._o in_o scripture_n there_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quidem_fw-la of_o any_o other_o door_n of_o admission_n p._n 25._o 2._o either_o a_o minister_n eject_v a_o man_n just_o out_o of_o his_o own_o church_n eject_v he_o out_o of_o all_o other_o church_n or_o he_o be_v juridical_o eject_v out_o of_o other_o church_n and_o so_o he_o be_v in_o a_o capacity_n of_o be_v receive_v into_o other_o church_n which_o what_o horrid_a confusion_n it_o will_v introduce_v etc._n etc._n pag._n 24._o 2._o it_o may_v be_v say_v that_o a_o excomunicate_a person_n ordinary_o be_v a_o member_n a_o church-member_n though_o disease_v p._n 26_o 3._o if_o a_o religious_a general_n in_o speak_v to_o his_o army_n principal_o aim_v at_o the_o salvation_n of_o their_o soul_n yet_o this_o be_v not_o preach_v though_o his_o end_n in_o speak_v be_v their_o salvation_n pag._n 41._o 3._o speak_v of_o paul_n he_o say_v the_o end_n of_o the_o actor_n or_o speaker_n be_v pure_o &_o sole_o the_o salvation_n of_o their_o soul_n &_o so_o it_o be_v tru_o and_o may_v proper_o be_v call_v preach_v p._n 41_o 42._o 4._o the_o less_o be_v call_v of_o the_o great_a pag._n 138._o we_o never_o find_v ordination_n practise_v either_o in_o the_o old_a or_o new_a testament_n but_o by_o person_n in_o authority_n towards_o their_o inferior_n pag._n 160._o 4._o he_o say_v it_o be_v not_o any_o prejudice_n to_o the_o extraordinarines_n of_o timothy_n office_n that_o it_o be_v confer_v by_o ordinary_a officer_n pag._n 149._o what_o more_o ordinary_a both_o in_o state_n and_o church_n then_o for_o a_o person_n to_o have_v a_o office_n convey_v to_o he_o viz._n ministerial_o by_o such_o as_o be_v inferior_a to_o he_o p._n 149._o 3_o repugnancy_n to_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n and_o dr._n collings_n 1._o every_o minister_n by_o excommunication_n eject_v member_n out_o of_o the_o church_n catholic_n visi_fw-la ble_n jus._n divin_n min._n pag._n 139._o 1._o it_o may_v be_v say_v a_o excommunicate_a person_n ordinary_o be_v a_o member_n a_o churchmember_v though_o disease_v mr_n pool_n pag._n 26._o 2._o they_o i._n e._n apostle_n and_o evangilist_n be_v virtual_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n they_o differ_v nothing_o from_o they_o but_o the_o extent_n of_o their_o power_n dr._n collings_n pag._n 105_o 2._o the_o difference_n between_o apostolical_a and_o pastoral_a power_n lie_v not_o in_o the_o extent_n of_o their_o relation_n mr._n pool_n p._n 36._o  _fw-fr and_n he_o make_v pastor_n power_n as_o extensive_a as_o as_o he_o suppose_v their_o relation_n to_o be_v pag._n 6._o question_n discuss_v pr._n s._n note_v the_o preacher_n send_v vind._n note_v the_o precede_a treatise_n the_o number_n direct_v to_o the_o page_n in_o either_o of_o the_o treatise_n where_o the_o question_n be_v resolve_v 1._o whether_o there_o be_v a_o universal_a political_a visible_a church_n or_o whether_o there_o be_v a_o church_n of_o church_n a_o visible_a catholic_n church_n form_v unto_o fellowshi●p_n in_o new_a testament_n ordinance_n negate_fw-la epist_n to_o pr._n s._n p._n 4._o 5._o vind._n of_o epist_n 2._o whether_o visible_a saint_n be_v the_o only_a fit_a matter_n for_o a_o visible_a church_n aff._n epist._n to_o pr._n s._n p._n 6._o 3._o who_o be_v visible_a saint_n epist_n to_o pr._n s._n p._n 7._o 4._o whether_o a_o union_n by_o covenant_n consent_n or_o agreement_n be_v necessary_a unto_o memberhood_n in_o a_o visible_a church_n aff._n epist_n to_o pr._n s._n pag._n 9_o 5._o who_o may_v be_v style_v minister_n pr._n s._n pag._n 2_o vind._n p._n 1._o 6._o whether_o office_n be_v a_o relation_n to_o the_o work_n and_o employment_n of_o the_o ministry_n as_o be_v correlate_n or_o to_o a_o church_n preach_v sent._n 4._o vindicat._n pag._n 2._o etc._n etc._n 7._o whether_o office_n be_v a_o relation_n secundum_fw-la esse_fw-la or_o secundum_fw-la dici_fw-la vindicat._n p._n 4._o 5._o 8._o whether_o officer_n stand_v in_o relation_n as_o officer_n to_o a_o universal_a church_n neg._n whether_o to_o a_o particular_a church_n only_o aff_n whether_o to_o heathen_n and_o such_o as_o be_v of_o no_o church_n neg._n pre._n s._n 288._o vind._n p._n 12_o 13._o etc._n etc._n p._n 86._o etc._n etc._n 9_o what_o be_v office_n pr._n s._n 14._o 10_o whether_o there_o be_v a_o difference_n between_o preach_v ex_fw-la officio_fw-la and_o ex_fw-la dono_n aff_n preach_v s._n 18._o 11._o whether_o unbeliever_n may_v come_v into_o churchm●●●ings_n to_o hear_v the_o word_n aff._n pr._n s._n 18._o 12._o what_o be_v preach_v pr._n s._n 20._o 13._o whether_o it_o be_v preach_v when_o in_o private_a aff_n pr._n 8._o 21._o 14._o whether_o it_o be_v preach_v when_o it_o be_v not_o in_o a_o sacred_a assembly_n aff._n pr._n s._n p._n 22_o 23._o 15._o what_o be_v authoritative_a preach_n preach_v s._n 25._o to_o 28._o 16._o whether_o person_n who_o have_v preach_v gift_n and_o grace_n may_v ordinary_o exercise_v those_o gift_n in_o public_a assembly_n though_o they_o be_v not_o ordain_v officer_n affirm_v preach_v s._n 29._o to_o 216._o vind._n pag._n 21._o etc._n etc._n 125._o etc._n etc._n 17._o whether_o election_n ought_v to_o precede_v ordination_n aff._n pr._n s._n 30._o 18._o what_o call_n be_v sufficient_a to_o the_o exercise_n of_o preach_v gift_n pr._n s._n 37._o vind._n 26._o 19_o whether_o from_o gift_a man_n preach_v it_o will_v follow_v that_o gift_a woman_n may_v preach_v or_o that_o man_n gift_v for_o any_o civil_a or_o military_a employment_n may_v act_n therein_o without_o any_o further_o call_v neg._n pr._n s._n 38_o 39_o vind._n 29._o 20._o whether_o it_o belong_v to_o the_o sphere_n place_n and_o call_n of_o gift_a man_n to_o preach_v affirm_v preach_v s._n 40._o 21._o whether_o the_o baptism_n of_o john_n and_o the_o baptism_n of_o christ_n be_v distinguish_v and_o how_o pr._n s._n 69._o 70._o vind._n 66._o to_o 71._o 22._o whether_o teach_v and_o preach_v be_v in_o scripture_n phrase_n the_o same_o aff._n p._n 79._o pr._n s._n 23._o whether_o necessity_n be_v a_o good_a plea_n against_o the_o argument_n from_o act_v 8_o and_o whether_o the_o suppose_a necessity_n make_v officer_n or_o no_o pr._n s._n 86._o to_o 88_o vind._n 33_o 34_o 35._o 141._o 24._o whether_o the_o prophesy_a 1_o corin._n 14._o be_v a_o gift_n or_o a_o office_n preach_v sent._n 90._o vind._n 37._o 145._o whether_o it_o be_v a_o gift_n still_o continue_v aff._n p._n s._n 96._o vindicat._n p._n 41._o 148._o whether_o those_o prophet_n speak_v by_o extraordinary_a revelation_n neg._n preach_v s._n 104_o 105._o vind._n 46_o 151_o 152_o 153._o 25._o what_o be_v not_o and_o what_o be_v the_o mission_n or_o send_v rom._n 15._o preach_v sent._n 121_o to_o 138._o whether_o mission_n be_v ordination_n neg_fw-mi pr._n s._n 123._o vindic._n 63_o 64._o whether_o mission_n authorize_v or_o give_v a_o call_n to_o be_v a_o officer_n or_o to_o preach_v neg_fw-mi pr._n s._n 121._o vindicat_fw-la 156._o 159_o 160._o 26._o whether_o the_o example_n of_o saul_n offer_v sacrifice_n or_o vzzahs_n touch_v the_o ark_n do_v forbid_v gift_v man_n preach_v neg._n pr._n s._n 154_o 155._o vindicat_fw-la 164_o 165._o 27._o whether_o gift_a man_n preach_v do_v make_v officer_n void_a or_o un-necessary_a as_o to_o that_o act_n neg._n pr._n s._n 156._o vindicat_fw-la 55_o 56_o 57_o 28_o whether_o if_o gift_a man_n may_v preach_v will_v it_o follow_v that_o they_o may_v administer_v the_o sacrament_n neg._n pr._n s._n 165_o vind._n 169._o 170._o 29._o whether_o gift_a
he_o if_o they_o be_v under_o a_o general_a obligation_n to_o preach_v when_o opportunity_n or_o a_o call_n be_v offer_v so_o be_v gift_v man_n if_o he_o will_v say_v they_o can_v command_v it_o let_v he_o prove_v it_o &_o who_o they_o may_v require_v to_o hear_v when_o church_n be_v full_a of_o pastor_n we_o urge_v diverse_a argument_n for_o the_o preach_a of_o some_o man_n without_o ordination_n argu._n 1._o from_o the_o antecedaneousness_n of_o election_n to_o ordination_n preacher_n sent._n p._n 29._o obj._n dr._n collings_n know_v no_o need_n of_o any_o preach_v in_o order_n to_o election_n but_o only_o twice_o or_o thrice_o to_o try_v a_o man_n utterance_n and_o deny_v the_o election_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n as_o necessary_a to_o precede_v ordination_n etc._n etc._n vind._n revind_n pag._n 45._o 46._o answ_n a_o trial_n what_o gift_n a_o man_n have_v for_o scripture_n interpretation_n and_o of_o the_o sutableness_n of_o a_o man_n gift_n to_o such_o a_o people_n etc._n etc._n make_v ordinary_a preach_v necessary_a in_o order_n to_o election_n as_o well_o as_o the_o trial_n of_o utterance_n 2._o election_n do_v precede_v ordination_n act._n 6._o vers_fw-la 5._o they_o choose_v stephen_n vers_fw-la 6._o and_o when_o they_o have_v pray_v they_o lay_v their_o hand_n on_o they_o dr._n collings_n ask_v whether_o we_o think_v that_o the_o election_n there_o be_v by_o the_o whole_a multitude_n we_o answer_v yes_o for_o it_o be_v express_o say_v v._n 5_o the_o say_v please_v the_o whole_a multitude_n and_o they_o choose_v stephen_n etc._n etc._n they_o who_o choose_v the_o text_n answer_v the_o whole_a multitude_n their_o be_v divide_v because_o some_o widow_n be_v neglect_v in_o the_o daily_a ministration_n do_v not_o hinder_v their_o agree_v together_o in_o the_o choose_n of_o deacon_n which_o be_v propound_v as_o a_o mean_n purposely_o for_o the_o heal_n of_o those_o division_n neither_o do_v the_o number_n if_o it_o be_v so_o great_a forbid_v it_o for_o more_o have_v meet_v we_o expect_v his_o attempt_n to_o give_v some_o text_n to_o prove_v ordination_n antecedent_n to_o or_o without_o election_n but_o he_o wave_v that_o altogether_o argu._n 2._o from_o gospel_n command_v 1_o pet._n 4_o ver_fw-la 10._o 11._o hebr._n 10._o 25._o preach_v send_v p._n 32._o obj._n dr._n collings_n his_o chief_a exception_n against_o this_o be_v 1._o if_o any_o one_o who_o have_v ability_n may_v dispense_v the_o the_o gift_n than_o gift_a brethren_n may_v administer_v baptism_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n too_o by_o virtue_n of_o this_o text._n vind._n p._n 50._o 2._o the_o context_n speak_v of_o the_o good_a thing_n of_o this_o world_n pag._n 50._o 3._o if_o the_o ability_n to_o preach_v be_v the_o gift_n only_o mean_v he_o that_o never_o have_v the_o oracle_n of_o god_n commit_v to_o he_o can_v speak_v they_o as_o the_o oracle_n of_o god_n and_o however_o this_o be_v when_o the_o church_n be_v in_o a_o scatter_a state_n pag._n 51._o 4._o he_o incline_v 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answer_v they_o can_v not_o partly_o because_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v a_o act_n of_o many_o especial_o when_o in_o a_o assembly_n partly_o because_o whatsoever_o be_v put_v to_o suffrage_n may_v be_v determine_v by_o the_o major_a voice_n in_o case_n of_o dissent_n but_o this_o be_v impossible_a where_o there_o be_v but_o two_o for_o paul_n can_v not_o out-vote_n barnabas_n nor_o barnabas_n out-vote_n paul_n if_o paul_n have_v give_v his_o voice_n for_o one_o and_o barnabas_n have_v dissent_v and_o have_v give_v his_o voice_n for_o another_o against_o paul_n we_o ask_v who_o shall_v have_v carry_v it_o when_o the_o word_n denote_v the_o act_n of_o the_o indivisible_a god_n act_v 10_o v._o 41._o it_o be_v not_o take_v proper_o as_o it_o be_v in_o act_n 14._o 23._o but_o figurative_o as_o god_n be_v say_v to_o have_v eye_n ear_n hand_n etc._n etc._n so_o by_o a_o metaphor_n he_o be_v say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o this_o answer_v his_o second_o particular_a vind._n 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that_o officer_n stand_v in_o relation_n as_o officer_n to_o a_o particular_a church_n only_o not_o to_o a_o universal_a church_n in_o way_n of_o reply_n to_o mr._n pool_n exception_n in_o the_o three_o first_o chapter_n of_o his_o book_n there_o come_v late_o to_o our_o hand_n a_o book_n entitle_v a_o moderate_a enquiry_n into_o the_o warrantableness_n of_o the_o preach_n of_o gift_a and_o unordained_a person_n write_v by_o mr._n poole_n at_o the_o desire_n and_o appointment_n of_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n of_o london_n in_o way_n of_o reply_n to_o some_o part_n of_o our_o book_n entitle_v the_o preacher_n sent._n we_o shall_v give_v some_o brief_a animadversion_n upon_o the_o most_o considerable_a passage_n of_o his_o book_n and_o
ordinance_n appoint_v for_o his_o good_a be_v according_a to_o mr._n poole_n a_o church-member_n but_o he_o who_o be_v excommunicate_a for_o blasphemy_n deny_v christ_n etc._n etc._n be_v under_o a_o church-ordinance_n for_o his_o good_a ergo_fw-la according_a to_o mr._n pool_n he_o who_o be_v excomunicate_v for_o blasphemy_n deny_v christ_n etc._n etc._n be_v a_o church-member_n and_o that_o the_o same_o ordinance_n of_o excommunication_n do_v pass_v upon_o some_o and_o cut_v they_o off_o from_o church-membership_a and_o pass_v upon_o other_o and_o leave_v they_o member_n still_o let_v he_o prove_v 4._o neither_o they_o in_o their_o jus_fw-la divin_n min._n nor_o we_o in_o our_o former_a book_n do_v speak_v of_o the_o cease_n of_o baptism_n as_o to_o the_o actual_a privilege_n of_o it_o or_o as_o to_o man_n account_n only_o or_o chief_o but_o about_o the_o cease_n of_o the_o water_n baptism_n itself_o and_o therefore_o what_o mr._n pool_n s●ith_o p._n 27._o be_v altogether_o beside_o the_o question_n neither_o do_v his_o instance_n of_o circumcision_n help_v he_o for_o if_o any_o turn_v heathen_a or_o idolater_n and_o renounce_v his_o circumcision_n yet_o he_o remain_v a_o circumcise_a person_n and_o his_o circumcision_n may_v be_v a_o witness_n against_o he_o though_o he_o be_v to_o be_v repute_v as_o a_o heathen_a while_o such_o and_o so_o we_o apprehend_v though_o a_o baptize_v person_n cease_v by_o excommunication_n to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o any_o visible_a church_n yet_o this_o baptism_n cease_v not_o but_o if_o it_o do_v real_o cease_v as_o they_o say_v it_o do_v rebaptise_v will_v necessary_o be_v infer_v 5._o if_o baptism_n itself_o about_o which_o the_o question_n be_v do_v cease_v upon_o the_o cessation_n of_o membership_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n that_o upon_o the_o person_n repentance_n the_o lord_n shall_v impute_v his_o former_a baptism_n to_o he_o be_v such_o a_o notion_n as_o to_o use_v his_o own_o phrase_n in_o scripture_n there_o be_v ne_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quidem_fw-la of_o any_o such_o thing_n 6._o if_o a_o man_n cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n shall_v make_v his_o baptism_n cease_v upon_o its_o be_v the_o door_n of_o admission_n into_o that_o as_o they_o assert_v then_o a_o pari_fw-la a_o man_n cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n by_o excommunication_n or_o otherwise_o will_v make_v his_o baptism_n ceasesupon_o its_o be_v the_o door_n of_o admission_n into_o that_o &_o so_o rebaptise_v must_v follow_v upon_o readmission_n so_o that_o this_o fall_v heavy_a upon_o their_o principle_n but_o it_o touch_v not_o we_o because_o we_o deny_v baptism_n to_o be_v the_o door_n of_o admission_n into_o an●_n church_n and_o this_o answer_v what_o he_o say_v pag._n 27._o he_o say_v pag._n 28._o we_o grant_v that_o baptism_n be_v a_o sign_n of_o a_o man_n admission_n to_o the_o church_n reply_n he_o much_o mistake_v we_o for_o we_o do_v not_o grant_v that_o its_o sacramental_a use_n be_v to_o be_v a_o sign_n of_o admission_n into_o the_o church_n but_o in_o regard_n church-member-ship_n be_v pre-required_n unto_o baptism_n hence_o as_o thing_n consequential_a be_v sign_n of_o what_o be_v antecedent_n and_o fruit_n a_o sign_n of_o a_o tree_n so_o baptism_n if_o orderly_o administer_v be_v a_o sign_n of_o admission_n into_o a_o church_n we_o grant_v it_o to_o be_v a_o sign_n of_o one_o be_v engage_v for_o the_o profession_n of_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n he_o ask_v pag._n 28._o what_o be_v a_o church_n but_o a_o company_n of_o man_n profess_v the_o name_n of_o christ_n reply_n 1._o we_o speak_v only_o of_o a_o subsequent_a sign_n which_o presupposech_v his_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o church_n and_o be_v engage_v for_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n and_o so_o be_v not_o the_o door_n of_o admission_n 2._o a_o company_n of_o unbaptised_a person_n may_v profess_v the_o name_n of_o christ_n ergo_fw-la according_a to_o mr._n pool_n they_o be_v a_o church_n and_o then_o baptism_n can_v be_v the_o door_n of_o admission_n into_o the_o church_n we_o say_v baptism_n make_v not_o a_o man_n to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o any_o church_n by_o which_o we_o intend_v only_o this_o that_o baptism_n do_v not_o admit_v a_o man_n into_o any_o church_n mr._n pool_n pag._n 28_o call_v this_o a_o monstrous_a paradox_n which_o shall_v not_o have_v be_v dictate_v without_o any_o proof_n etc._n etc._n reply_n we_o have_v not_o mere_o dictate_v it_o but_o have_v give_v clear_a proof_n for_o it_o preacher_n send_v pag._n 284._o 286._o 292_o 293._o himself_n grant_v that_o both_o infant_n and_o otner_n be_v church-member_n inchoate_v before_o baptism_n pag._n 24._o church-membership_a be_v a_o relation_n and_o as_o it_o be_v gross_o improper_a to_o say_v that_o a_o man_n be_v a_o father_n or_o master_n etc._n etc._n inchoate_n but_o not_o a_o complete_a father_n or_o master_n so_o its_o improper_a to_o say_v that_o one_o be_v enchoate_n only_o a_o church-member_n and_o therefore_o they_o be_v admit_v not_o by_o but_o before_o baptism_n but_o that_o baptism_n do_v not_o make_v man_n member_n of_o the_o church_n be_v large_o prove_v in_o the_o answer_n of_o new-england_n elder_n to_o the_o 32._o question_n pag._n 12_o to_o 20._o ob._n 1._o we_o be_v all_o baptize_v into_o one_o body_n 1_o corin._n 12._o 13._o by_o which_o it_o be_v most_o evident_a that_o baptism_n give_v a_o man_n relation_n to_o some_o body_n etc._n etc._n mr._n pool_n pag._n 28._o ans_fw-fr the_o whole_a stress_n of_o this_o argument_n depend_v upon_o translate_n the_o preposition_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d into_o whereas_o it_o be_v frequent_o use_v to_o signify_v in_o be_v mat._n 2._o ver_fw-la 23._o he_o come_v and_o dwell_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o a_o city_n etc._n etc._n so_o 1_o peter_n 5._o 12._o act_n 2._o 27._o luke_n 11._o 7._o mark_v 1._o v._o 9_o be_v baptize_v of_o john_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o jordan_n and_o hence_o v._o 5._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o river_n jordan_n that_o which_o be_v express_v by_o i●_n in_o one_o verse_n be_v express_v by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o other_o all_o which_o clear_o show_v that_o no_o argument_n can_v be_v ground_v upon_o its_o signify_v into_o and_o if_o it_o be_v render_v in_o as_o often_o it_o be_v in_o other_o text_n than_o his_o argument_n come_v to_o nothing_o whether_o it_o be_v the_o visible_a or_o invisible_a church_n that_o be_v there_o intend_a for_o it_o run_v thus_o by_o one_o spirit_n we_o be_v all_o baptize_v in_o one_o body_n &_o then_o they_o be_v first_o in_o that_o body_n &_o baptize_v after_o &_o so_o baptism_n be_v not_o the_o door_n of_o admission_n or_o do_v not_o give_v relation_n to_o that_o body_n 2._o a_o antecedent_n entrance_n into_o a_o relation_n be_v usual_o express_v by_o a_o subsequent_a adjunct_n of_o that_o relation_n as_o a_o entrance_n into_o kingly_a government_n be_v express_v by_o coronation_n and_o gen._n 45._o 10._o the_o sceptre_n shall_v not_o depart_v etc._n etc._n i._n c._n there_o shall_v be_v one_o to_o bear_v the_o sceptre_n there_o become_v governor_n be_v denote_v by_o a_o sceptre_n which_o be_v a_o subsequent_a sign_n of_o government_n so_o if_o 〈◊〉_d be_v render_v into_o yet_o it_o may_v be_v only_o a_o adjunct_n privilege_n of_o church-membership_a and_o not_o that_o which_o make_v to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o any_o body_n or_o church_n 3._o there_o be_v different_a gift_n and_o grace_n in_o the_o member_n of_o the_o mystical_a body_n of_o christ_n and_o therefore_o these_o can_v prove_v it_o a_o organical_a political_a body_n yet_o what_o do_v the_o apostle_n say_v more_o of_o this_o one_o body_n but_o whatever_o the_o body_n be_v the_o relation_n thereto_o be_v not_o prove_v to_o be_v by_o baptism_n as_o mr._n cartwright_n observe_v on_o gal._n 3._o 27._o where_o we_o be_v say_v to_o put_v on_o christ_n by_o baptism_n it_o be_v the_o usual_a phrase_n of_o the_o scripture_n which_o give_v that_o unto_o the_o sarcrament_n which_o be_v due_a unto_o the_o thing_n whereof_o it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n so_o here_o ob._n 2._o that_o which_o make_v a_o man_n visible_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o christ_n that_o make_v he_o visible_o to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o the_o church_n but_o baptism_n make_v a_o man_n visible_o to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o christ_n ergo_fw-la answ_n both_o proposition_n be_v false_a 1._o his_o major_n be_v untrue_a because_o a_o visible_a relation_n to_o christ_n must_v precede_v or_o go_v before_o a_o visible_a relation_n to_o the_o church_n for_o none_o but_o visible_a saint_n or_o believer_n be_v to_o be_v admit_v into_o church_n relation_n act_v 2._o v._o 47._o they_o be_v save_v once_o i._n e._n
at_o all_o prove_v muchlesse_a beyond_o contradiction_n that_o to_o preach_v public_o be_v a_o act_n of_o authority_n and_o inconsistent_a with_o a_o state_n of_o subjection_n as_o to_o 1_o cor._n 14._o 34._o all_o in_o a_o state_n of_o subjection_n be_v not_o forbid_v preach_v by_o that_o reason_n but_o only_a woman_n no_o man_n be_v in_o such_o a_o state_n of_o subjection_n as_o woman_n hence_o the_o apostle_n compare_v sex_n with_o sex_n prefer_v the_o man_n before_o the_o woman_n 1_o cor._n 11._o ver_fw-la 3._o 9_o and_o by_o a_o cover_n ver_fw-la 5._o 6._o signify_v the_o subjection_n of_o woman_n and_o ver_fw-la 3._o 7._o deny_v man_n to_o be_v in_o such_o subjection_n minister_n or_o pastor_n state_n of_o subjection_n to_o magistrate_n do_v as_o much_o forbid_v their_o preach_a public_o as_o woman_n subjection_n do_v forbid_v gift_v man_n do_v of_o it_o and_o the_o text_n he_o allead_v speak_v not_o a_o word_n of_o man_n but_o only_o of_o woman_n be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o subjection_n woman_n being_n under_o obedience_n may_v be_v a_o reason_n against_o their_o preach_a public_o and_o yet_o preach_a be_v no_o authoritative_a act_n in_o his_o sense_n the_o unsutableness_n of_o it_o to_o such_o a_o state_n may_v make_v that_o a_o reason_n against_o it_o and_o unsuitable_a it_o may_v be_v though_o preach_v be_v no_o act_n of_o authority_n i_o e._n no_o act_n of_o office_n as_o to_o 1_o tim._n 2._o 11._o 12._o it_o neither_o give_v this_o as_o a_o reason_n why_o they_o must_v not_o teach_v in_o public_a because_o they_o must_v not_o usurp_v authority_n nor_o do_v it_o assert_v preach_v to_o be_v a_o authoritative_a act_n for_o the_o word_n be_v yet_o i_o suffer_v not_o a_o woman_n to_o teach_v nor_o to_o usurp_v authority_n over_o the_o man_n but_o more_o of_o these_o text_n afterward_o his_o ground_n thus_o vanish_v what_o he_o add_v p._n 53._o about_o constant_a and_o occasional_a preach_v must_v needs_o vanish_v with_o they_o and_o as_o to_o that_o he_o say_v about_o alm_n that_o a_o private_a man_n give_v his_o alm_n public_o be_v enough_o to_o prove_v that_o publickness_n make_v not_o a_o act_n of_o office_n that_o the_o public_a work_n of_o a_o schoolmaster_n may_v as_o he_o confess_v be_v manage_v by_o any_o man_n gift_v for_o it_o this_o speak_v it_o to_o be_v a_o fit_a parallel_n and_o as_o he_o say_v pag._n 53._o that_o work_n be_v not_o restrain_v either_o by_o divine_a or_o humane_a law_n so_o we_o say_v the_o preach_a of_o gift_a man_n be_v not_o restrain_v but_o command_v by_o a_o divine_a law_n we_o grant_v that_o a_o man_n self-designation_a for_o the_o ministry_n be_v not_o enough_o to_o justify_v his_o do_v act_n of_o office_n but_o it_o be_v sufficient_a be_v due_o qualify_v and_o approve_v unto_o the_o exercise_n of_o preach_a gift_n and_o this_o answer_v what_o he_o say_v pag._n 54._o for_o heb._n 5._o 12._o the_o apostle_n deny_v the_o hebrew_n they_o be_v but_o babe_n in_o christ_n and_o assert_v only_a christian_n of_o long_a time_n and_o much_o experience_n to_o be_v teacher_n in_o the_o sense_n be_v intend_v style_v they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o there_o be_v nothing_o in_o the_o text_n to_o limit_v or_o restrain_v it_o as_o mr._n pool_n do_v to_o private_a teach_n of_o their_o family_n or_o heathen_n all_o which_o argue_v a_o public_a teach_v to_o be_v intend_v especial_o see_v all_o babe_n in_o christ_n have_v ability_n in_o some_o measure_n private_o to_o teach_v their_o family_n yet_o have_v not_o ability_n for_o this_o teach_v the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d without_o the_o addition_n of_o any_o other_o to_o it_o frequent_o notifi_v public_a teacher_n as_o act._n 13._o 1._o 1_o tim._n 2._o 7._o yet_o will_v this_o be_v a_o sufficient_a answer_n to_o those_o text_n a_o genere_fw-la ad_fw-la speciem_fw-la non_fw-la valet_fw-la illutio_fw-la affirmativa_fw-la sure_o the_o usual_a acceptation_n of_o the_o word_n for_o one_o species_n of_o teacher_n will_v deny_v it_o to_o be_v a_o genere_fw-la ad_fw-la speciem_fw-la and_o whereas_o the_o apostle_n say_v they_o ought_v to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d teacher_n mr._n pool_n will_v turn_v the_o apostle_n word_n and_o will_v have_v it_o only_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d apt_a or_o fit_a to_o teach_v if_o such_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n may_v be_v allow_v he_o he_o may_v turn_v the_o word_n of_o god_n which_o way_n he_o will_v and_o this_o answer_v what_o he_o say_v p._n 54_o 55._o and_o let_v the_o reader_n judge_v who_o wre_v the_o scripture_n mr._n pool_n or_o we_o three_o for_o gift_a man_n preach_v in_o public_a we_o allege_v heb._n 10._o 25._o object_n if_o this_o place_n prove_v any_o thing_n to_o our_o brethren_n purpose_n it_o will_v prove_v that_o it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o every_o one_o gift_v or_o not_o gift_v to_o preach_v in_o the_o public_a assembly_n etc._n etc._n their_o assemble_v together_o be_v not_o the_o modification_n of_o the_o exhortation_n but_o the_o matter_n of_o it_o they_o be_v to_o exhort_v one_o another_o even_o to_o this_o that_o they_o will_v not_o forsake_v the_o assemble_v etc._n etc._n pag._n 56._o answ_n 1._o those_o that_o be_v not_o gift_v can_v not_o exhort_v in_o public_a assembly_n to_o public_a edification_n and_o therefore_o it_o can_v be_v suppose_v that_o they_o be_v require_v to_o do_v it_o but_o this_o command_n be_v leave_v in_o general_a among_o the_o hebrew_n hence_o none_o that_o be_v gift_v be_v exempt_v from_o do_v of_o it_o 2._o exhort_v one_o another_o be_v a_o work_n for_o public_a assembly_n and_o be_v command_v from_o they_o by_o way_n of_o opposition_n unto_o other_o sinful_a forsake_v such_o assembly_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v to_o be_v do_v in_o public_a assembly_n if_o a_o corporation_n or_o any_o other_o society_n be_v persuade_v to_o keep_v up_o meeting_n and_o there_o shall_v be_v add_v immediate_o a_o excitation_n to_o a_o work_n usual_o perform_v in_o such_o meeting_n none_o will_v 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