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but_o my_o hope_n be_v those_o great_a instrument_n of_o god_n to_o break_v the_o enemy_n of_o those_o that_o be_v term_v sectary_n though_o mr._n bs._n word_n seem_v to_o forebode_v and_o misdeem_v evil_a of_o they_o will_n and_o do_v prove_v better_a than_o he_o discribe_v they_o though_o i_o imagine_v they_o be_v not_o anabaptist_n nor_o do_v i_o like_v mr._n bs._n obscure_a satirical_a crimination_n they_o have_v some_o show_n of_o a_o malevolent_a mind_n whatever_o mr._n b._n may_v conceive_v of_o the_o danger_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n way_n in_o other_o thing_n i_o be_o sure_a if_o they_o will_v keep_v themselves_o only_o to_o this_o to_o be_v baptize_v upon_o profession_n of_o faith_n they_o shall_v be_v in_o a_o safe_a way_n even_o in_o the_o way_n of_o christ._n sect_n xxii_o the_o speech_n that_o no_o one_o country_n be_v gather_v into_o christ_n visible_a church_n contain_v no_o malignancy_n to_o christ_n but_o be_v a_o manifest_a truth_n most_o of_o that_o which_o be_v in_o 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tribe_n young_a or_o old_a man_n and_o woman_n be_v gather_v by_o the_o apostle_n and_o other_o preacher_n as_o moses_n do_v gather_v together_o the_o jewish_a nation_n exod._n 19_o deut._n 29._o but_o say_v mr._n b._n 1._o have_v he_o noi_fw-it command_v to_o disciple_n nation_n i_o answer_v yes_o to_o make_v disciple_n of_o all_o nation_n by_o preach_v the_o gospel_n to_o every_o creature_n as_o it_o be_v mark_v 16._o 15._o but_o no_o where_o by_o civil_a authority_n to_o gather_v a_o whole_a city_n country_n or_o tribe_n and_o to_o draw_v they_o into_o a_o national_a or_o city_n covenant_n together_o old_a and_o young_a but_o to_o offer_v christ_n and_o to_o baptize_v so_o many_o as_o be_v willing_a to_o embrace_v he_o 2._o say_v mr._n b._n have_v not_o the_o father_n promise_v to_o give_v the_o heathen_a or_o nation_n for_o his_o inheritance_n and_o the_o uttermost_a part_n of_o the_o earth_n for_o his_o possession_n psal._n 2._o and_o that_o nation_n shall_v serve_v he_o answ._n 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his_o redemption_n of_o they_o out_o of_o egypt_n when_o he_o tell_v i_o of_o my_o accustomednesse_n to_o mistake_n it_o be_v more_o true_a of_o himself_o as_o i_o have_v often_o show_v yea_o tho_o the_o word_n be_v write_v before_o he_o and_o in_o this_o very_a thing_n he_o call_v my_o mistake_n that_o he_o argue_v thus_o whosoever_o be_v call_v god_n servant_n may_v be_v baptize_v whereas_o he_o may_v have_v see_v if_o he_o have_v take_v any_o care_n to_o set_v down_o my_o word_n right_o that_o my_o word_n be_v as_o his_o own_o notary_n take_v they_o and_o he_o have_v print_v they_o if_o this_o be_v a_o good_a argument_n infant_n be_v call_v servant_n of_o god_n therefore_o they_o be_v disciple_n and_o must_v be_v baptize_v which_o be_v his_o argument_n either_o in_o word_n or_o substance_n as_o for_o the_o conclusion_n and_o argument_n as_o he_o set_v it_o down_o page_n 182._o i_o think_v it_o be_v not_o urge_v in_o the_o dispute_n and_o i_o have_v prove_v that_o levit._n 25._o 42._o be_v mean_v only_o of_o hebrew_n child_n not_o of_o gentile_n nor_o in_o the_o sense_n mr._n b._n will_v prove_v that_o they_o be_v relative_o separate_v to_o god_n from_o the_o world_n in_o the_o sense_n as_o god_n be_v servant_n be_v equipollent_a to_o a_o disciple_n of_o christ._n page_n 184_o he_o call_v my_o answer_n to_o his_o allegation_n of_o deut._n 19_o 11_o 12_o vain_a senseless_a reavil_n and_o then_o break_v out_o into_o word_n of_o pity_n to_o people_n that_o take_v their_o opinion_n on_o my_o word_n to_o which_o be_v i_o say_v that_o my_o answer_n be_v not_o vain_a senseless_a cavil_n will_v appear_v in_o my_o reply_n to_o mr._n b._n about_o that_o text_n and_o as_o he_o pity_v they_o that_o take_v their_o opinion_n on_o my_o word_n so_o i_o pity_v they_o that_o take_v their_o opinion_n on_o his_o word_n or_o any_o mere_a man_n word_n contrary_a to_o christ_n privilege_n mat._n 23._o 1._o page_n 184._o in_o my_o word_n adoption_n be_v print_v for_o doctrine_n 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as_o he_o call_v it_o be_v not_o distinct_o name_v and_o show_v where_o it_o be_v and_o upon_o what_o condition_n that_o state_n of_o separation_n to_o god_n which_o infant_n have_v be_v ascertain_v whether_o upon_o their_o own_o act_n or_o parent_n and_o if_o upon_o parent_n whether_o immediate_a or_o mediate_a whether_o to_o the_o truth_n and_o reality_n or_o profession_n nor_o wherein_o that_o state_n of_o separation_n to_o god_n consist_v or_o what_o be_v the_o benefit_n of_o it_o all_o or_o of_o some_o which_o perhaps_o i_o apprehend_v mr._n b._n right_o in_o now_o yet_o not_o till_o i_o have_v read_v over_o his_o book_n again_o and_o again_o and_o pick_v out_o his_o meaning_n by_o compare_v many_o passage_n together_o which_o because_o he_o do_v not_o then_o nor_o since_o in_o his_o print_a write_n put_v together_o as_o other_o do_v in_o their_o thesis_n they_o maintain_v i_o guess_v he_o be_v willing_a to_o carry_v thing_n in_o the_o general_n and_o if_o i_o do_v say_v so_o 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not_o the_o text_n which_o have_v be_v fit_a yet_o i_o guess_v by_o his_o word_n page_n 83._o he_o mean_v ezra_n 9_o 2._o in_o which_o place_n only_o and_o isaiah_n 6._o 13._o i_o find_v this_o term_n in_o scripture_n but_o ezra_n 9_o 2._o do_v not_o speak_v of_o infant_n but_o such_o a_o holy_a seed_n as_o mingle_v themselves_o with_o the_o people_n of_o the_o land_n which_o be_v in_o marriage_n which_o will_v not_o be_v say_v of_o infant_n nor_o be_v holy_a seed_n there_o mean_v of_o a_o state_n separate_v to_o god_n in_o mr._n bs._n sense_n by_o covenant_n promise_v it_o to_o believer_n that_o their_o infant_n shall_v be_v visible_a church-member_n for_o this_o holiness_n be_v a_o state_n of_o difference_n or_o separation_n only_o by_o legal_a descent_n from_o israel_n not_o by_o the_o faith_n of_o next_o parent_n and_o it_o do_v entitle_v they_o to_o a_o peculiar_a privilege_n of_o be_v reckon_v in_o the_o genealogy_n of_o israel_n or_o in_o full_a communion_n with_o the_o commonwealth_n of_o israel_n in_o respect_n of_o inheritance_n marriage_n etc._n etc._n though_o they_o fall_v to_o idolatry_n as_o jeroboam_n ahaz_n manasseh_n etc._n etc._n do_v but_o proselyte_n though_o believer_n be_v not_o the_o holy_a seed_n there_o mean_v they_o be_v not_o forbid_v to_o marry_v the_o daughter_n of_o the_o people_n of_o the_o land_n yea_o the_o child_n of_o the_o holy_a seed_n beget_v upon_o prohibit_v woman_n as_o the_o daughter_n of_o the_o nation_n there_o mention_v be_v with_o their_o mother_n to_o be_v put_v away_o as_o unholy_a according_a to_o the_o law_n ezra_n 10._o 3._o contrary_a to_o the_o resolution_n of_o the_o apostle_n 1_o cor._n 7._o 12_o 13_o 14._o which_o evident_o show_v that_o the_o jew_n be_v call_v the_o holy_a seed_n by_o their_o descent_n according_a to_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n and_o that_o the_o term_n holy_a seed_n ezra_n 10._o 2._o be_v all_o one_o with_o legitimate_a and_o if_o the_o apostle_n do_v allude_v to_o that_o place_n in_o ezra_n it_o serve_v more_o for_o my_o sense_n then_o mr._n bs._n and_o the_o sense_n may_v be_v conceive_v this_o if_o the_o unbelieving_a husband_n be_v not_o as_o sanctify_v to_o his_o wife_n so_o as_o that_o they_o may_v lawful_o live_v together_o than_o the_o child_n shall_v be_v unclean_a that_o be_v illegitimate_a as_o those_o in_o ezra_n but_o now_o that_o be_v it_o be_v determine_v that_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n concern_v prohibit_v marriage_n with_o some_o people_n be_v void_v and_o unequal_a marriage_n be_v not_o dissolve_v your_o child_n be_v holy_a that_o be_v legitimate_a his_o evasion_n page_n 188._o about_o a_o judgement_n of_o charity_n will_v be_v find_v insufficient_a to_o avoid_v my_o exception_n against_o his_o exposition_n which_o be_v mistake_v by_o he_o nor_o will_v it_o at_o all_o smite_v i_o my_o exception_n be_v not_o as_o he_o imagine_v that_o upon_o a_o judgement_n of_o charity_n concern_v the_o sincerity_n of_o a_o person_n profession_n he_o be_v not_o to_o be_v take_v for_o a_o real_a believer_n but_o that_o mr._n b._n determine_v that_o the_o unbeliever_n be_v sanctify_v only_o to_o the_o believer_n who_o be_v not_o only_o such_o according_a to_o the_o judgement_n of_o charity_n but_o also_o real_o such_o before_o god_n and_o the_o apostle_n consequence_n include_v this_o proposition_n according_a to_o his_o exposition_n that_o the_o child_n of_o such_o only_o be_v holy_a that_o be_v after_o mr._n b._n visible_a church-member_n and_o baptizable_a of_o necessity_n all_o other_o by_o his_o exposition_n be_v prohibit_v to_o be_v baptize_v and_o therefore_o of_o necessity_n he_o that_o will_v follow_v the_o rule_n according_a to_o mr._n bs_n exposition_n must_v know_v the_o reality_n of_o the_o parent_n faith_n which_o be_v impossible_a to_o be_v know_v without_o special_a revelation_n he_o may_v baptize_v none_o without_o it_o now_o mr._n b._n answer_v not_o at_o all_o to_o the_o main_a thing_n how_o by_o his_o exposition_n a_o man_n can_v go_v upon_o certainty_n that_o he_o do_v his_o duty_n but_o how_o without_o respect_n to_o his_o exposition_n a_o man_n may_v take_v a_o person_n for_o a_o sincere_a believer_n and_o so_o baptize_v he_o but_o this_o serve_v not_o his_o turn_n in_o this_o case_n for_o it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o the_o baptizer_n to_o baptize_v only_o visible_a church-member_n this_o mr._n b._n will_v not_o deny_v now_o of_o infant_n who_o can_v make_v no_o profession_n their_o visible_a church-membership_a be_v know_v only_o by_o their_o parent_n believe_v but_o according_a to_o mr._n bs._n exposition_n of_o the_o apostle_n those_o infant_n only_o be_v visible_a church-member_n who_o parent_n be_v real_a believer_n before_o god_n no_o hypocrite_n if_o mr._n b._n right_o expound_v the_o apostle_n
the_o church_n and_o yet_o be_v holy_a man_n mr._n b._n say_v in_o his_o epist._n dedic_n to_o the_o saint_n everlasting_a rest_n direct_v 5._o that_o independency_n which_o give_v the_o people_n to_o govern_v by_o vote_n be_v the_o same_o thing_n with_o separation_n which_o come_v from_o pride_n and_o ignorance_n and_o direct_o lead_v to_o the_o dissolution_n of_o all_o church_n then_o they_o that_o hold_v it_o hold_v their_o fancy_n and_o rend_v the_o church_n by_o it_o and_o so_o by_o mr._n bs._n rule_v none_o of_o they_o be_v of_o holy_a life_n if_o mr._n b._n censure_v so_o mr._n atnsworth_n mr._n robinson_n style_v by_o rivet_n explic._n dec._n exod._n 20._o praec_fw-la 4._o vir_fw-la pius_fw-la a_o godly_a man_n etc._n etc._n he_o will_v vent_v a_o more_o arrogant_a speech_n than_o any_o he_o charge_v i_o with_o mr._n bs._n opinion_n about_o faith_n and_o justification_n be_v by_o some_o count_v fancy_n if_o he_o shall_v by_o they_o make_v a_o breach_n in_o the_o church_n yet_o i_o dare_v not_o deny_v his_o life_n to_o be_v holy_a he_o call_v it_o my_o reproach_n that_o i_o think_v it_o may_v be_v safe_o say_v that_o there_o be_v proportionable_o as_o many_o unholy_a paedobaptist_n as_o of_o the_o opposite_n to_o refute_v which_o he_o refer_v we_o to_o that_o say_v before_o where_o i_o shall_v in_o its_o place_n examine_v it_o and_o show_v that_o he_o have_v do_v much_o wrong_n to_o antipoedo_n baptist_n in_o two_o thing_n 1._o in_o charge_v they_o with_o the_o evil_n of_o sundry_a who_o be_v never_o of_o their_o society_n 2._o in_o charge_v the_o evil_n of_o some_o few_o apostate_n upon_o all_o the_o church_n though_o they_o express_o reject_v the_o person_n and_o declare_v even_o public_o in_o print_n against_o their_o wicked_a principle_n and_o practice_n yea_o have_v be_v the_o first_o and_o almost_o the_o only_a man_n who_o have_v so_o declare_v though_o many_o more_o than_o ever_o be_v of_o their_o church_n have_v fall_v into_o the_o wicked_a rant_a 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observe_v the_o end_n of_o a_o whole_a party_n prove_v wicked_a which_o perhaps_o will_v not_o be_v till_o they_o be_v dead_a that_o be_v tempt_v by_o they_o sect_n xii_o mr._n bs._n insinuation_n of_o the_o wickedness_n of_o anabaptist_n be_v calumniatory_a and_o vain_o allege_v to_o condemn_v their_o doctrine_n of_o antipaedobaptisme_n anabaptist_n and_o with_o they_o myself_o be_v vindicate_v from_o charge_n of_o schism_n neglect_v of_o the_o lord_n day_n etc._n etc._n page_n 201._o to_o deter_v his_o hearer_n from_o anabaptistry_n mr._n b._n have_v say_v where_o have_v there_o be_v know_v a_o society_n of_o anabaptist_n since_o the_o world_n first_o know_v that_o prove_v not_o wicked_a a_o direct_a answer_n to_o this_o question_n thus_o propound_v can_v hardly_o be_v make_v nor_o be_v it_o necessary_a it_o can_v hardly_o be_v make_v it_o be_v a_o question_n that_o depend_v partly_o upon_o much_o read_n of_o history_n in_o former_a time_n both_o about_o the_o doctrine_n and_o 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page_n 273._o and_o say_v it_o be_v of_o dangerous_a consequence_n and_o indeed_o i_o think_v it_o so_o still_o for_o i_o think_v it_o will_v follow_v that_o except_o a_o magistrate_n can_v show_v his_o commission_n from_o christ_n that_o he_o be_v a_o usurper_n and_o then_o none_o be_v bind_v to_o he_o but_o to_o suppress_v he_o than_o no_o infidel_n be_v a_o lawful_a magistrate_n who_o deny_v christ_n and_o it_o will_v be_v questionable_a whether_o this_o will_v not_o extend_v to_o a_o non-churchmemb_a or_o a_o excommunicate_a person_n than_o a_o magistrate_n do_v of_o right_a to_o a_o infidel_n against_o a_o believer_n or_o to_o one_o believer_n against_o another_o as_o put_v he_o to_o death_n be_v a_o act_n for_o christ_n as_o mediator_n and_o if_o because_o all_o power_n be_v give_v to_o he_o in_o heaven_n and_o in_o earth_n therefore_o magistracy_n so_o as_o that_o all_o power_n must_v be_v derive_v from_o christ_n as_o mediator_n than_o a_o father_n power_n over_o his_o child_n but_o sure_o that_o be_v in_o a_o father_n by_o nature_n nor_o do_v i_o think_v it_o any_o part_n of_o the_o curse_n then_o rule_v presbyter_n shall_v do_v the_o act_n of_o civil_a magistrate_n as_o have_v plain_a title_n to_o rule_v under_o christ._n nor_o do_v i_o think_v mr._n b._n have_v answer_v these_o argument_n or_o the_o rest_n but_o that_o however_o he_o prove_v magistracy_n to_o be_v from_o christ_n appointment_n and_o to_o be_v subordinate_a to_o his_o law_n and_o accountable_a to_o he_o and_o aught_o to_o act_v for_o he_o yet_o not_o that_o the_o commission_n of_o every_o lawful_a magistrate_n be_v from_o he_o as_o mediator_n i_o think_v it_o will_v follow_v if_o mr._n bs._n position_n be_v true_a that_o suppose_v christ_n have_v not_o be_v mediator_n there_o have_v be_v no_o lawful_a magistrate_n and_o that_o dominium_fw-la fundatur_fw-la in_o gratia_fw-la which_o be_v heretofore_o deny_v and_o since_o christ_n be_v heir_n of_o all_o thing_n and_o believer_n only_o be_v christ_n and_o all_o they_o 1_o cor._n 3._o 22_o 23._o it_o will_v be_v consider_v whether_o by_o parity_n of_o reason_n the_o saint_n may_v not_o entitle_v themselves_o to_o all_o power_n and_o all_o man_n estate_n which_o be_v charge_v on_o anabaptist_n at_o munster_n but_o i_o find_v i_o digress_v and_o therefore_o stop_v till_o more_o liberty_n draw_v i_o to_o a_o full_a handle_n of_o it_o sect_n xx._n many_o learned_a man_n with_o the_o oxford_n convocation_n of_o former_a and_o late_a time_n take_v infant-baptisme_n only_o for_o a_o unwritten_a tradition_n mr._n b._n proceed_v to_o answer_v my_o antidote_n term_v it_o a_o corrective_a for_o a_o circumforaneous_a antidote_n but_o the_o antidote_n will_v appear_v to_o be_v good_a if_o take_v notwithstanding_o his_o disgraceful_a term_n of_o corrective_a without_o virtue_n page_n 299._o he_o print_v two_o passage_n of_o dr._n whitaker_n for_o the_o late_a oxford_n convocation_n to_o read_v and_o refer_v to_o the_o like_a in_o davenant_n but_o whatever_o doctor_n whitaker_n think_v yet_o that_o the_o ancient_n do_v take_v baptism_n of_o infant_n to_o have_v be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n unwritten_a seem_v to_o i_o from_o that_o which_o be_v say_v in_o my_o examen_fw-la part_n i._o sect_n 5._o not_o avoid_v by_o mr._n ms_n defence_n in_o the_o council_n of_o basil_n in_o the_o oration_n of_o the_o cardinal_n of_o ragusi_n it_o be_v assert_v item_n nusquam_fw-la legitur_fw-la in_o canone_o scripturae_fw-la s._n quod_fw-la parvulus_fw-la recenter_n baptizatus_fw-la qui_fw-la nec_fw-la cord_n credit_n ad_fw-la justitiam_fw-la nec_fw-la ore_fw-la confitetur_fw-la ad_fw-la falutem_fw-la inter_fw-la fideles_fw-la &_o crudentes_fw-la computetur_fw-la et_fw-la nihilominus_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la it_o a_o determinavit_fw-la et_fw-la statuit_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o in_o principip_n huius_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la baptizabantur_fw-la solum_fw-la illi_fw-la qui_fw-la per_fw-la se_fw-la sciebant_fw-la fidem_fw-la interroganti_fw-la respondere_fw-la to_o which_o purpose_n walafridus_n strabo_n many_o hundred_o year_n before_o and_o vives_n about_o that_o time_n who_o word_n be_v allege_v in_o my_o exercitation_n the_o title_n page_n and_o sect_n 17._o erasmus_n resp_n archiep._n hispal_a ad_fw-la artic_a object_n 61._o sunt_fw-la et_fw-la alia_fw-la innumera_fw-la quae_fw-la prisci_fw-la non_fw-la ausi_fw-la sunt_fw-la definire_fw-la sed_fw-la suspensae_fw-la pronunciatione_fw-la venerabantur_fw-la quod_fw-la genus_fw-la est_fw-la a_o parvuliessent_n baptizandi_fw-la and_o common_o the_o learn_a papist_n do_v instance_n in_o infant-baptism_n as_o a_o unwritten_a tradition_n in_o force_n and_o whereas_o it_o be_v object_v that_o bellarm._n and_o other_o do_v bring_v scripture_n for_o it_o becan_n manual_a lib._n 1._o c._n 2._o sect_n 24._o answer_n aliqua_fw-la possunt_fw-la probariex_fw-la scriptura_fw-la quando_fw-la constat_fw-la de_fw-la vero_fw-la &_o legitimo_fw-la scripture_n sensu_fw-la so_o he_o say_v it_o be_v concern_v infan-baptism_n which_o be_v prove_v from_o john_n 3._o 5._o but_o that_o the_o sense_n whereby_o to_o prove_v it_o be_v only_o manifest_a by_o tradition_n which_o be_v confirm_v in_o the_o canon_n law_n and_o schoolman_n a_o infants-baptism_n be_v not_o reckon_v perfect_a till_o the_o bishop_n lay_v on_o hand_n which_o act_n be_v call_v confirmation_n to_o wit_n of_o the_o imperfect_a baptism_n in_o infancy_n molinaeus_n in_o his_o vates_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 7._o cite_v the_o canon_n do_v 5._o de_fw-la consecratione_fw-la as_o determine_v that_o without_o the_o sacrament_n of_o confirmation_n no_o man_n be_v a_o full_a christian._n can._n omnes_fw-la et_fw-la can._n ut_fw-la jejuni_fw-la thomas_n 3._o part_n summae_fw-la q._n 72._o art_n 9_o dicit_fw-la hoc_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la esse_fw-la perfectionâ—m_fw-la baptismi_fw-la innuens_fw-la baptismum_fw-la esse_fw-la imperfectum_fw-la nisi_fw-la accesserit_fw-la confirmatio_fw-la lumb_n l._n 4._o scent_n do_v 7._o a._n omnes_fw-la fideles_fw-la per_fw-la manus_fw-la impositionem_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la post_fw-la baptismum_fw-la accipere_fw-la debent_fw-la in_o confirmatione_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la ut_fw-la pleni_fw-la christiani_n inveniantur_fw-la bellarm._n tom_n 3._o the_o sacr_n confirm_v c._n 12._o confirmatio_fw-la est_fw-la complementum_fw-la &_o perfectio_fw-la baptismi_fw-la lib._n 2._o de_fw-la effec_fw-la sacram._n c._n 8._o est_fw-la confirmatio_fw-la quaedam_fw-la perfectio_fw-la &_o consummatio_fw-la baptismi_fw-la jewel_n defence_n of_o the_o apolog._n page_n 218._o allege_v it_o as_o caistan_n tenet_n that_o a_o infant_n for_o that_o he_o want_v instruction_n in_o faith_n therefore_o have_v not_o perfect_a baptism_n consonant_a hereto_o be_v the_o conceit_n of_o the_o common_a people_n that_o they_o have_v not_o their_o full_a christian_a doom_n all_o they_o be_v bishop_v but_o that_o it_o may_v appear_v even_o learned_a protestant_n speak_v near_o the_o same_o i_o will_v cite_v some_o of_o their_o speech_n among_o which_o i_o will_v forbear_v to_o recite_v the_o speech_n of_o the_o lord_n brook_n and_o mr._n daniel_n rogers_n allege_v by_o i_o in_o my_o exercit._n sect_n 18._o and_o clear_v in_o my_o apology_n from_o mr._n rogers_n his_o latter_a gloss_n nor_o the_o opinion_n of_o mr._n bedford_n who_o judge_v with_o the_o romanist_n that_o the_o scripture_n give_v we_o proof_n only_o of_o the_o reasonableness_n of_o infant-baptisme_n as_o i_o gather_v by_o mr._n bs._n i_o answer_v to_o he_o page_n 305._o dr._n field_n of_o the_o church_n four_o book_n chap._n 20._o the_o four_o kind_n of_o inadition_n be_v the_o continue_a practice_n of_o such_o thing_n as_o be_v neither_o contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n express_o nor_o the_o example_n of_o such_o practice_n express_o there_o deliver_v though_o the_o ground_n reason_n and_o cause_n of_o the_o necessity_n of_o such_o practice_n be_v there_o contain_v and_o the_o benefit_n or_o good_a that_o follow_v it_o of_o this_o sort_n be_v the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n which_o be_v therefore_o name_v a_o tradition_n because_o it_o be_v not_o express_o deliver_v in_o scripture_n that_o the_o apostle_n do_v baptize_v infant_n nor_o any_o express_a precept_n there_o find_v that_o they_o shall_v so_o do_v yet_o be_v not_o this_o so_o receive_v by_o bare_a and_o naked_a tradition_n but_o that_o we_o find_v the_o scripture_n to_o deliver_v unto_o we_o the_o ground_n of_o it_o doctor_n prideaux_n fasci_fw-la controu._n theol._n loc_n 4._o sect_n 3._o q._n 2._o paedobaptism_n rest_v on_o no_o other_o divine_a right_n than_o episcopacy_n doctor_n jeremy_n tailor_n in_o his_o liberty_n of_o prophesy_a sect_n 18._o num_fw-la 34._o after_o he_o have_v ventilate_v the_o point_n on_o both_o side_n say_v there_o be_v much_o more_o truth_n than_o evidence_n on_o our_o side_n mean_v paedobaptist_n to_o all_o which_o i_o will_v add_v the_o word_n of_o theophilus_n philakyriaco_n loucardiensis_n that_o be_v mr._n young_a as_o i_o be_o inform_v a_o eminent_a man_n in_o the_o late_a assembly_n and_o mr._n marshal_n friend_n that_o help_v he_o in_o the_o first_o part_n of_o his_o defence_n in_o his_o dies_z dominica_n lib._n 1._o c._n 10._o
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