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A57068 The tabernacle of God with men, or, The visible church reformed a discourse of the matter and discipline of the visible church, tending to reformation / by Richard Resbury ... Resbury, Richard, 1607-1674. 1649 (1649) Wing R1136A; ESTC R32282 56,135 82

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have_v it_o clear_a from_o jerome_n that_o heraclas_n be_v the_o first_o who_o have_v distinct_a ordination_n and_o office_n above_o a_o presbyter_n 3._o pretence_n from_o antiquity_n such_o testimony_n as_o be_v give_v to_o the_o honour_n and_o power_n of_o bishop_n by_o the_o ancient_n and_o here_o above_o all_o ignatius_n help_v at_o every_o turn_n answ_n 1._o forasmuch_o as_o five_o of_o his_o epistle_n be_v grant_v by_o diverse_a advocate_n of_o episcopacy_n to_o be_v such_o as_o do_v evident_o betray_v no_o little_a forgery_n who_o shall_v assure_v we_o that_o those_o seven_o by_o they_o avouch_v in_o all_o thing_n genuine_a be_v so_o indeed_o what_o more_o unlikely_a then_o that_o they_o shall_v escape_v tamper_n by_o the_o same_o hand_n 2._o those_o seven_o most_o stand_v upon_o be_v by_o very_o learned_a man_n among_o other_o salmasius_n judge_v in_o the_o very_a testimony_n very_o spurious_a and_o that_o not_o from_o blasse_o but_o upon_o good_a ground_n 1._o the_o 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bless_a apostle_n command_v you_o where_o be_v this_o command_n that_o in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o smyrnian_o let_v that_o be_v account_v a_o firm_a eucharist_n which_o be_v by_o the_o bishop_n administer_v or_o by_o he_o to_o who_o he_o shall_v have_v commit_v it_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a without_o the_o bishop_n either_o to_o baptize_v or_o to_o offer_v etc._n etc._n have_v not_o the_o holy_a ghost_n commit_v preach_v and_o baptism_n and_o administration_n of_o the_o supper_n joint_o to_o every_o presbyter_n this_o sound_v ill_a in_o every_o care_n except_o of_o papist_n or_o prelate_n the_o church_n of_o alexandria_n have_v no_o true_a baptism_n for_o about_o two_o hundred_o and_o sixty_o year_n if_o this_o be_v true_a doctrine_n as_o for_o the_o reform_a church_n they_o be_v in_o the_o same_o case_n 3._o the_o idolatrous_a strain_n of_o some_o take_v that_o in_o the_o same_o epistle_n in_o the_o church_n be_v nothing_o great_a than_o the_o bishop_n consecrate_v to_o god_n for_o the_o salvation_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n 4._o the_o impertinency_n of_o some_o take_v that_o in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o philadelphian_o let_v the_o prince_n obey_v the_o emperor_n the_o soldier_n the_o prince_n the_o deacon_n the_o presbyter_n those_o high-priest_n the_o presbyter_n and_o the_o deacon_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o who_o be_v they_o i_o wonder_v and_o what_o part_n of_o the_o clergy_n be_v the_o deacon_n with_o all_o the_o people_n and_o the_o soldier_n and_o the_o prince_n and_o the_o emperor_n let_v they_o obey_v the_o bishop_n set_v aside_o other_o flaw_n what_o impertinency_n be_v here_o to_o enjoin_v the_o prince_n and_o the_o emperor_n to_o obey_v the_o bishop_n when_o there_o be_v not_o at_o this_o time_n nor_o many_o year_n after_o any_o emperor_n or_o prince_n christian_a these_o be_v some_o few_o glean_n more_o of_o the_o like_a stamp_n there_o to_o be_v find_v that_o not_o without_o reason_n it_o be_v by_o the_o learned_a conjecture_v that_o about_o the_o beginning_n or_o middle_n of_o the_o second_o century_n be_v this_o forge_a author_n surreptitious_o bring_v into_o the_o church_n about_o which_o time_n this_o kind_n of_o episcopacy_n soar_v above_o presbytery_n begin_v 3._o how_o little_a our_o prelate_n and_o their_o party_n regard_v his_o writing_n only_o they_o plead_v they_o to_o serve_v their_o own_o turn_n be_v manifest_a that_o we_o hear_v so_o little_a from_o they_o of_o subjection_n to_o the_o presbyter_n and_o deacon_n which_o ignatius_n urge_v so_o much_o in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o trallian_n it_o be_v necessary_a that_o you_o do_v nothing_o without_o the_o bishop_n but_o that_o you_o be_v in_o subjection_n likewise_o to_o the_o presbytery_n as_o to_o the_o apostle_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o you_o ought_v by_o all_o mean_n to_o please_v the_o deacon_n be_v of_o the_o mystery_n of_o jesus_n christ_n the_o presbyter_n be_v the_o great_a council_n of_o god_n and_o the_o chain_n of_o the_o apostle_n of_o jesus_n christ_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o those_o in_o tarsus_n let_v the_o presbyter_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o bishop_n the_o deacon_n to_o the_o presbyter_n the_o people_n to_o the_o presbyter_n and_o the_o deacon_n they_o that_o keep_v this_o good_a order_n my_o soul_n for_o they_o much_o more_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n up_o and_o down_o in_o he_o where_o salmasius_n conjecture_n this_o spurious_a author_n be_v about_o the_o midst_n or_o towards_o the_o beginning_n of_o the_o second_o century_n whilst_o the_o presbytery_n yet_o retain_v much_o of_o its_o authority_n now_o what_o do_v our_o prelate_n and_o their_o party_n here_o for_o presbyter_n they_o allow_v they_o no_o rule_n by_o way_n of_o jurisdiction_n for_o deacon_n they_o have_v first_o change_v their_o office_n and_o then_o order_v it_o so_o as_o it_o be_v never_o long_o stand_v be_v only_o a_o degree_n to_o presbytery_n and_o indeed_o here_o this_o ignatius_n seem_v to_o ascribe_v that_o 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the_o like_a so_o far_o as_o they_o plead_v for_o episcopacy_n above_o presbytery_n can_v stand_v either_o with_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o scripture_n or_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o first_o and_o pure_a church_n we_o return_v to_o jerome_n his_o epistle_n to_o evagrius_n that_o which_o next_o follows_z concern_v not_o the_o matter_n in_o hand_n but_o be_v against_o the_o superiority_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n and_o against_o a_o perverse_a custom_n in_o rome_n that_o a_o presbyter_n be_v ordain_v upon_o the_o testimony_n of_o a_o deacon_n that_o which_o concern_v the_o present_a question_n follow_v in_o these_o word_n presbyter_n and_o bishop_n one_o be_v the_o name_n of_o age_n the_o other_o of_o dignity_n whence_o to_o titus_n and_o timothy_n the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o the_o ordination_n of_o the_o bishop_n and_o deacon_n concern_v the_o presbyter_n he_o be_v altogether_o silent_a because_o in_o the_o bishop_n the_o presbyter_n
frequent_o the_o seven_o angel_n that_o sound_v the_o seven_o trumpet_n and_o the_o seven_o angel_n that_o pour_v out_o the_o seven_o vial_n be_v not_o seven_o singular_a person_n but_o seven_o company_n or_o sort_n of_o man_n perform_v that_o service_n 3._o the_o angel_n of_o the_o church_n rev._n 2._o and_o 3._o must_v be_v take_v collective_o or_o the_o whole_a company_n of_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n as_o be_v evident_a rev._n 2.24_o to_o you_o in_o the_o plural_a number_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d write_v to_o the_o angel_n as_o distinguish_v from_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o church_n have_v see_v the_o unwarrantableness_n of_o the_o diocesan_n bishop_n we_o shall_v not_o need_v to_o speak_v of_o the_o true_a officer_n for_o rule_n in_o the_o church_n for_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n they_o be_v doubt_v by_o none_o but_o the_o episcopal_a party_n for_o rule_v elder_n to_o they_o adjoin_v as_o it_o have_v be_v the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n general_o so_o of_o late_a there_o be_v diverse_a discourse_n easy_a to_o be_v meet_v with_o fair_o and_o clear_o plead_v their_o divine_a right_n among_o the_o rest_n the_o way_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o new_a england_n the_o jus_fw-la divinum_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o sum_n of_o the_o survey_n of_o discipline_n by_o master_n hooker_n i_o shall_v therefore_o pass_v to_o another_o instruction_n about_o particular_a congregation_n chap._n x._o the_o seven_o instruction_n to_o a_o particular_a congregation_n of_o visible_a saint_n furnish_v with_o officer_n it_o belong_v to_o exercise_v all_o part_n of_o discipline_n within_o itself_o in_o it_o power_n of_o all_o discipline_n whether_o all_o power_n of_o discipline_n or_o not_o 1._o the_o church_n instance_a in_o scripture_n of_o corinth_n ephesus_n etc._n etc._n thus_o far_o they_o seem_v to_o have_v be_v each_o a_o particular_a congregation_n 1._o all_o the_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v choose_v by_o the_o people_n as_o 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public_a administration_n of_o worship_n as_o for_o discipline_n joint_o as_o for_o the_o other_o main_a objection_n variety_n of_o language_n therefore_o their_o congregation_n must_v be_v many_o and_o fix_v answ_n there_o be_v interpreter_n of_o language_n that_o those_o who_o in_o the_o congregation_n understand_v not_o their_o language_n speak_v in_o may_v by_o interpretation_n understand_v it_o this_o argue_v their_o congregation_n be_v not_o fix_v according_a to_o the_o difference_n of_o language_n 3._o where_o there_o be_v all_o sort_n of_o power_n for_o discipline_n there_o be_v a_o entire_a right_n for_o the_o exercise_n of_o it_o for_o power_n be_v for_o exercise_n but_o in_o every_o congregation_n there_o be_v all_o sort_n of_o power_n there_o be_v power_n of_o order_n and_o power_n of_o office_n and_o for_o office-power_n there_o be_v both_o sort_n of_o officer_n elder_n labour_v in_o the_o word_n and_o doctrine_n and_o other_o for_o rule_n with_o they_o and_o in_o this_o they_o of_o the_o presbyterian_a and_o congregationall_a way_n agree_v 4._o where_o our_o saviour_n rule_n may_v be_v observe_v matth._n 18.15_o 16_o 17._o there_o be_v entire_a power_n of_o discipline_n but_o in_o every_o congregation_n so_o frame_v that_o rule_n may_v be_v observe_v admonition_n first_o single_a then_o before_o a_o witness_n or_o two_o and_o last_o by_o the_o church_n 5._o where_o authoritative_a suspension_n may_v be_v there_o may_v be_v excommunication_n but_o in_o every_o such_o congregation_n authoritative_a suspension_n may_v be_v this_o late_a be_v grant_v the_o former_a be_v thus_o confirm_v where_o there_o be_v power_n of_o church-admonition_n there_o be_v power_n of_o excommunication_n mat._n 18.17_o but_o where_o there_o be_v power_n of_o authoritative_a suspension_n there_o be_v power_n of_o church-admonition_n 1._o suspension_n suppose_v such_o admonition_n 2._o admonition_n be_v a_o less_o act_n of_o power_n and_o jurisdiction_n than_o suspension_n be_v 6._o where_o there_o be_v right_a to_o entire_a church-fellowship_n in_o the_o ordinance_n of_o public_a worship_n and_o private_a communion_n there_o be_v right_a for_o the_o exercise_n of_o discipline_n this_o appear_v thus_o a_o scandalous_a sinner_n in_o such_o a_o society_n retain_v be_v leaven_n leaven_n the_o whole_a lump_n involve_v the_o whole_a society_n in_o guilt_n 1_o cor._n 5._o therefore_o it_o be_v their_o duty_n and_o in_o their_o power_n to_o cast_v he_o out_o but_o in_o every_o congregation_n so_o frame_v there_o be_v right_a for_o entire_a church-fellowship_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v not_o question_v hence_o to_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n power_n be_v ascribe_v and_o she_o blame_v for_o not_o cast_v out_o the_o incestuous_a person_n not_o because_o she_o have_v thus_o and_o thus_o many_o officer_n but_o because_o she_o be_v a_o church_n entire_o frame_v for_o discipline_n have_v in_o her_o all_o kind_n of_o power_n for_o that_o purpose_n chap._n xi_o the_o 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