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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A92172	A briefe narration of some church courses held in opinion and practise in the churches lately erected in New England. Collected out of sundry of their own printed papers and manuscripts with other good intelligences. Together with some short hints (given by the way) of their correspondence with the like tenents and practises of the separatists churches. And some short animadversions upon some principall passages for the benefit of the vulgar reader. Presented to publike view for the good of the church of God by W. R.	Rathband, William, d. 1695.	1644 (1644)	Wing R298; Thomason E36_11; ESTC R21802	84,830	61

execute all Ecclesiasticall duties and offices t Hereby it comes to passe that because oft-times their Churches are long without Ministers that they are also long without Sacraments both the Lords Supper for the elder people and Baptisme for their infants Sacraments only excepted by meere lay men that neither are nor perhaps ever shall be officers in the Church 5. This Church being thus invested with all Church-power deriveth part thereof upon her officers viz. so much as she cannot conveniently execute her selfe and the rest she keeps still in her own hands and executes accordingly Ans to 32. q. p. 57. R. M. to W. R. ‑ R. M. to E. B. p. 4. Barr. Disc p. 223. 6. The officers have no power in Church matters but what the Church deriveth on them and which she may revoke and resume unto her selfe if she conceive they doe not use it well Ibid. And therefore she may call them to account for their actions though they were even Apostles themselves J. Cott. on 5. viall p. 10. 7. The officers are all but the Churches u Where saith the Scripture that the Church should rule her officers and the officers obey the church we find that officers are called rulers and people are commanded to obey them in the Lord frequently 1 Tim. 5.19 Heb. 13.17 but the other we never find We find indeed the Apostles call themselves the servants of the Church as Christ also made himselfe servant unto all but that is not to be understood properly but metaphorically and by way of some similitude unto servants who it good do seek their masters good and are for their profit not their own so did Christ and all the Apostles seek the Churches good not their own and so all Christians are commanded to serve each other in love But we may not thence conclude that therefore every Christian is in peoprietie to be anothers servant for then who should be master much lesse that the Apostles were properly the servants of the Church who gave rules to the Church what to doe and how to walk but received none from the Church least of all that Christ was so who both was and is the head of that body and King of that Kingdome We read also that Ministers are to do the acts of their ministerie in the Name of Christ and by his power 1 Cor. 5.4 Matth. 28.19 Mat. 7.22 But that they act in the name of the Church or by the power of the Church such phrases we do not reade them and therefore we do not beleeve them servants in proprietie of speech and she is the mistresse the queene In all things she hath the power of decreeing and they with her as others the meanest members of the Societie but as Ministers so they are only as her mouth to speake and her hand to act what she decrees doing all things for her by her power and in her name Ibid. Mr N. to W. R. ‑ R. M. to W. R. Rob. Apol. p. 49. Rob. justif p. 121 122 138 166 178 180 185 303 322. 8. The x And this were well too if this service of the Church were reserved only and intirely to the officers but alas this is but cōmon to them with other members For if either the officers be not or be absent or refuse through scruple of conscience perhaps to act according to their mind they will and they hold they lawfully may call forth any other member whom they judge fit and enable him with their power to doe all that which their officers should have done Sacraments only excepted acts which they ascribe unto the officers are such as these viz. 1. To declare unto their people the mind of God in any matter to advise counsell exhort reprove c. 2. To moderate in Church meetings that order may be observed by propounding of things to be debated gathering of voyces pronouncing the sentence accordingly 3. To execute all the Churches decrees in admission of members ordination of ministers admonition excommunication c. Ans to 32. q. p. 57. Cott. cat p. 3 10. Cott. on viall 5. p. 9 10. Rob. justif p. 9 111 114 116 121. Cannes necess of separation p. 135. 9. y This body is all eye and all tongue no diversity of members all governours none to be governed All teachers contrary to the Apostles rule Are all teachers 1 Cor 12. ●9 And if their reasons for this be well examined it will appeare they make as much for women to rule as men No marvell then if this be so that they complaine in print and otherwise that Ministers are slighted amongst them yea trampled upon by some Cott. on vial second p. 24. Master H. to S. A. They professe to condemne Morellian and popular Government but what can be more popular then this wherein all have equall power to decree and any of them may be used to act as well as the officers and the officers are used as meer servants to the body which is the Mistress● At most they are but as the Speaker in the house of Parliament or as a Moderator in a Synod which rule not but are rather ruled Every member of the Societie that is of yeares except women hath equall power with other even with the ministers themselves as they conceive in propounding debating objecting answering and in judicially decreeing and giving sentence in all matters of the Church whether pertaining to faith or manners doctrine or practise whatsoever W. T. to P. H. ‑ Mr W. letter to a friend ‑ Ans to 32. q. p. 44. Barr. refut of Giff. p. 81. and in his Discov p. 36 38 125 223. Rob. justif p. 9 111 121. Sions royall Prerog Preface 10. And therefore although the officers may lawfully prepare matters in private for the Churches hearing yet they hold all things ought to have a full publike debate in the z This popular government makes good store of work both for Ministers and people especially if the body be numerous as the Apostolicall Churches were and ours ought to be if conveniently they may and if they must all conveene in one Congregation to he are examine and debate all matters till all be satisfied and brought to one unanimous vote It will not be one houre or two in a weeke nor in every day of the weeke nor searce all the whole weeks time that will suffice to finish all businesses that may fall out And what time shall the Ministers then have for studie and other duties or the people to follow their worldly callinge This course seemes neither agreeable to the wisedome of God nor profitable to the weale of the Church Besides the time of keeping their courts on the Sabbath day seemes many wayes inconvenient It must needs tire men out both Ministers and people make them forgetfull of what they have heard neglective of private and domesticall duties fill their heads and tongues full of worldly discourses and their hearts of carnall passions and distempers