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A94733 An apology or plea for the Two treatises, and appendix to them concerning infant-baptisme; published Decemb. 15. 1645. Against the unjust charges, complaints, and censures of Doctor Nathanael Homes, Mr Iohn Geree, Mr Stephen Marshall, Mr John Ley, and Mr William Hussey; together with a postscript by way of reply to Mr Blakes answer to Mr Tombes his letter, and Mr Edmund Calamy, and Mr Richard Vines preface to it. Wherein the principall heads of the dispute concerning infant-baptism are handled, and the insufficiency of the writings opposed to the two treatises manifested. / By Iohn Tombes, B.D. Tombes, John, 1603?-1676. 1646 (1646) Wing T1801; Thomason E352_1; ESTC R201072 143,666 170

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enter_v into_o covenant_n be_v some_o act_n far_o than_o have_v of_o right_n for_o a_o person_n may_v have_v right_a to_o baptism_n before_o he_o enter_v into_o covenant_n mr_n martial_n shall_v have_v heedful_o distinguish_v the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n which_o be_v god_n act_n in_o his_o promise_n of_o grace_n and_o belong_v to_o none_o but_o those_o he_o have_v make_v that_o promise_n to_o and_o the_o outward_a administration_n which_o be_v the_o administratours_n act_n and_o not_o have_v call_v it_o the_o covenant_n and_o the_o enter_v into_o covenant_n with_o god_n which_o be_v the_o act_n of_o the_o baptize_v and_o can_v be_v do_v ordinary_o by_o a_o infant_n who_o be_v only_o passive_a and_o make_v no_o promise_n at_o baptism_n and_o therefore_o can_v be_v right_o say_v to_o enter_v into_o covenant_n with_o god_n the_o want_n of_o such_o distinctnesse_n in_o expression_n serve_v for_o no_o other_o purpose_n but_o to_o puzzle_v a_o
or_o birth_n as_o here_o master_n blake_n right_o expound_v the_o word_n nature_n but_o from_o faith_n as_o the_o term_n seed_n of_o abraham_n and_o the_o israel_n of_o god_n and_o the_o term_n circumcision_n philip._n 3._o 3._o so_o that_o master_n blakes_n own_o exposition_n overthrow_v his_o own_o inference_n but_o than_o say_v master_n blake_n our_o child_n must_v be_v under_o sinner_n of_o the_o gentile_n and_o so_o they_o be_v alien_n dog_n without_o hope_n etc._n etc._n ephes_n 2._o 12._o i_o answer_v our_o child_n be_v of_o the_o gentile_n who_o be_v sinner_n and_o as_o the_o apostle_n spea●●s_v ephes_n 2._o 12._o at_o that_o time_n that_o go_v before_o their_o call_a stranger_n from_o the_o covenant_n of_o promise_n etc._n etc._n but_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o he_o that_o say_v our_o child_n be_v of_o the_o gentile_n who_o be_v once_o stranger_n from_o god_n and_o so_o call_v sinner_n according_a to_o their_o condition_n then_o must_v hold_v that_o they_o 〈◊〉_d now_o the_o most_o godly_a believer_n now_o be_v under_o the_o second_o mother_n of_o the_o distinction_n be_v bear_v of_o gentile_a parent_n and_o yet_o not_o as_o the_o gentile_n be_v then_o stranger_n from_o christ_n master_n blake_n be_v most_o vain_a in_o say_v that_o by_o my_o t●not_n there_o be_v ne_o more_o hope_n of_o the_o salvation_n of_o a_o christian_n inf●●●_n then_o of_o numa_n i_o acknowledge_v no_o such_o matter_n nor_o do_v any_o such_o thing_n follow_v from_o my_o word_n which_o be_v plain_a and_o true_a master_n blake_n shall_v if_o he_o will_v have_v deal_v fair_o have_v show_v 〈◊〉_d of_o which_o word_n and_o how_o that_o follow_v which_o he_o obtand_v 〈◊〉_d i_o when_o i_o say_v the_o jew_n birth_n privilege_n do_v not_o 〈◊〉_d they_o to_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n i_o mean_v the_o same_o with_o the_o apostle_n 〈◊〉_d yet_o they_o have_v this_o benefit_n by_o their_o birth_n that_o they_o be_v among_o the_o people_n of_o god_n have_v the_o privilege_n of_o 〈◊〉_d according_a to_o the_o church-state_n then_o be_v to_o eat_v the_o 〈◊〉_d come_v into_o the_o court_n of_o the_o temple_n have_v the_o law_n christ_n be_v to_o come_v of_o they_o rom._n 9_o 4_o 5._o rom._n 3._o 〈◊〉_d and_o yet_o many_o of_o they_o not_o child_n of_o the_o promise_n the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o grace_n be_v make_v by_o god_n do_v promise_n to_o all_o and_o every_o person_n to_o who_o that_o covenant_n be_v make_v that_o he_o shall_v be_v effectual_o wrought_v upon_o i_o say_v the_o common_a privilege_n of_o cir●●●sion_n belong_v to_o the_o jew_n do_v not_o arise_v from_o the_o covenant_n of_o gr●●_n record_v to_o the_o substance_n of_o it_o but_o according_a to_o the_o administration_n that_o then_o be_v my_o meaning_n be_v circumcision_n be_v common_a to_o they_o which_o have_v no_o part_n in_o the_o covenant_n make_v with_o abraham_n gen._n 17._o neither_o a_o interest_n in_o the_o evangelicall_n nor_o household_n promise_v make_v to_o abraham_n as_o for_o instance_n ishmael_n and_o therefore_o i_o say_v it_o do_v not_o arise_v from_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n or_o parent_n faith_n as_o the_o formal_a reason_n why_o infant_n be_v circumcise_v but_o from_o god_n command_v according_a to_o that_o church-state_n that_o then_o he_o think_v good_a to_o appoint_v this_o be_v clear_a from_o gal._n 3_o &_o 4._o master_n blake_n interpret_v it_o as_o if_o i_o have_v say_v circumcision_n be_v not_o a_o sign_n of_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o run_v out_o in_o a_o large_a discourse_n to_o prove_v the_o contrary_a which_o touch_v not_o i_o who_o have_v express_o grant_v it_o exercit_fw-la pag._n 3._o examen_fw-la pag._n 39_o etc._n etc._n and_o it_o be_v a_o mere_a calumny_n in_o master_n blake_n to_o to_o tell_v i_o that_o i_o close_o with_o the_o jesuit_n and_o with_o high_a disdain_n shake_v off_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o protestant_n but_o say_v master_n blake_n pag._n 43._o you_o say_v in_o your_o exercitation_n pag._n 2._o the_o covenant_n make_v with_o abraham_n be_v not_o a_o p●●e_a gospel_n covenant_n but_o mix_v in_o the_o same_o place_n i_o explain_v my_o meaning_n and_o prove_v it_o so_o full_o that_o i_o wonder_v that_o master_n martial_n master_n blake_n and_o other_o be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o except_v against_o it_o what_o the_o jesuit_n say_v in_o this_o matter_n or_o what_o the_o protestant_n say_v against_o they_o i_o have_v not_o time_n to_o examine_v the_o thing_n as_o i_o deliver_v it_o be_v plain_o according_a to_o scripture_n that_o there_o be_v some_o peculiar_a promise_n make_v to_o abraham_n ge._n 17._o which_o be_v not_o make_v to_o every_o believer_n to_o tell_v we_o that_o godliness_n have_v the_o promise_n of_o the_o life_n that_o now_o be_v 1_o tim._n 4._o 8._o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o present_a purpose_n for_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v therefore_o that_o godliness_n have_v the_o promise_n of_o the_o land_n of_o canaan_n or_o that_o christ_n shall_v be_v every_o godly_a man_n seed_n etc._n etc._n mr_n blake_n say_v circumcision_n be_v a_o fruit_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o parent_n but_o this_o be_v false_a for_o then_o all_o &_o none_o but_o child_n of_o believer_n be_v to_o be_v circumcise_v which_o be_v not_o true_a who_o child_n soever_o they_o be_v if_o in_o abraham_n house_n if_o buy_v with_o money_n of_o any_o stranger_n they_o be_v to_o be_v circumcise_v i_o have_v say_v circumcision_n be_v a_o privilege_n in_o that_o time_n of_o the_o church_n minority_n and_o this_o the_o apostle_n deliver_v gal._n 3._o &_o 4._o mr_n blake_n take_v it_o as_o if_o i_o have_v say_v the_o fruition_n of_o the_o promise_n in_o such_o a_o latitude_n be_v only_o a_o privilege_n during_o the_o time_n of_o the_o church_n minority_n and_o will_v have_v i_o give_v some_o scripture_n or_o colour_n of_o reason_n for_o it_o which_o be_v to_o impose_v on_o i_o the_o prove_v of_o that_o i_o affirm_v not_o i_o say_v he_o that_o will_v prove_v the_o birth_n privilege_n of_o our_o child_n from_o the_o jew_n must_v make_v our_o case_n as_o they_o and_o so_o bring_v we_o under_o the_o ceremonial_a law_n this_o master_n blake_n put_v into_o a_o formal_a proposition_n of_o his_o own_o a_o man_n of_o straw_n and_o then_o deny_v it_o the_o reason_n of_o my_o word_n be_v plain_a circumcision_n of_o infant_n be_v from_o the_o pedagogy_n or_o peculiar_a church-state_n of_o the_o jew_n as_o may_v be_v prove_v from_o gal._n 3._o 25._o gal._n 4._o 1_o 2_o 3._o and_o oblige_v to_o the_o ceremonial_a law_n gal._n 5._o 3._o therefore_o they_o that_o from_o hence_o will_v draw_v the_o birth_n privilege_n of_o our_o child_n must_v make_v our_o case_n the_o same_o with_o the_o jew_n and_o so_o bring_v we_o under_o the_o ceremonial_a law_n the_o rest_n of_o that_o section_n be_v vain_a and_o not_o worth_a a_o line_n in_o answer_n i_o say_v true_o that_o the_o interpetation_n of_o 1_o cor._n 7_o 14._o of_o legitimation_n be_v no_o more_o to_o be_v call_v a_o singular_a opinion_n than_o master_n blakes_n and_o that_o i_o have_v prove_v by_o allege_v eleven_o author_n for_o it_o and_o can_v do_v more_o to_o the_o 8_o chapter_n invisible_a what_o he_o say_v of_o doctor_n wilmot_n i_o assent_n to_o he_o be_v a_o precious_a man_n and_o my_o dear_a friend_n when_o master_n blake_n shall_v demonstrate_v to_o i_o what_o passage_n in_o my_o book_n of_o scandal_n be_v inexcusable_a i_o shall_v endeavour_v some_o way_n or_o other_o to_o retract_v they_o why_o i_o do_v not_o alter_v one_o or_o two_o passage_n that_o doctor_n wilmot_n except_v against_o i_o shall_v be_v willing_a to_o give_v master_n blake_n the_o reason_n master_n blake_n be_v mistake_v in_o that_o he_o say_v that_o my_o friend_n of_o the_o assembly_n that_o deliver_v my_o letter_n to_o master_n marshal_n be_v the_o man_n that_o tell_v i_o of_o the_o committee_n of_o the_o assembly_n and_o advise_v i_o to_o present_v the_o reason_n of_o my_o doubt_n to_o they_o it_o be_v not_o he_o but_o my_o reverend_a and_o dear_a father_n in_o law_n and_o that_o friend_n of_o i_o of_o the_o assembly_n that_o deliver_v my_o letter_n to_o mr_n martial_n tell_v i_o that_o though_o he_o be_v desirous_a to_o have_v master_n blakes_n book_n print_v that_o the_o point_n may_v be_v dispute_v yet_o he_o do_v not_o approve_v many_o of_o his_o proof_n but_o by_o his_o speech_n with_o i_o late_o i_o conceive_v he_o do_v except_v at_o sundry_a of_o the_o same_o thing_n which_o i_o do_v but_o to_o the_o matter_n of_o that_o chapter_n let_v pass_v the_o conference_n and_o the_o occurrence_n therein_o which_o be_v promise_v shall_v not_o be_v divulge_v by_o any_o hearer_n nor_o be_v there_o any_o exact_a record_n keep_v of_o it_o the_o dispute_n be_v now_o
contend_v yet_o in_o that_o sense_n i_o yield_v it_o to_o be_v a_o seal_n actual_o i_o yield_v it_o to_o be_v a_o seal_n only_o to_o believer_n but_o i_o deny_v that_o because_o the_o sacrament_n be_v in_o its_o nature_n a_o seal_n of_o grace_n god_n do_v seal_v always_o when_o it_o be_v right_o administer_v the_o nature_n of_o it_o be_v to_o be_v a_o seal_n aptitudinall_n not_o actual_a and_o so_o it_o be_v easy_a to_o answer_v bellarmine_n argument_n without_o cross_v my_o speech_n but_o be_v the_o sacrament_n s●ales_v conditional_a or_o absolute_a actual_a or_o aptitudinall_n what_o be_v this_o to_o prove_v that_o god_n seal_v conditional_o in_o this_o sense_n as_o if_o god_n leave_v it_o to_o man_n liberty_n to_o who_o he_o have_v seal_v to_o agnize_v or_o recognize_v that_o seal_n or_o to_o free_v themselves_o if_o they_o please_v and_o so_o nullify_v all_o yet_o so_o as_o to_o afford_v they_o a_o while_n the_o favour_n and_o privilege_n of_o be_v in_o covenant_n with_o he_o which_o master_n martial_n i_o conceive_v mean_v by_o his_o conditional_a seal_n and_o i_o find_v not_o in_o his_o answer_n a_o denial_n of_o it_o to_o be_v his_o meaning_n master_n blake_n except_v against_o a_o speech_n of_o i_o in_o which_o i_o say_v that_o all_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v abrogate_a circumstance_n and_o substance_n in_o whole_a and_o in_o part_n and_o ask_v i_o be_v circumcision_n of_o heart_n abrogate_a be_v all_o spiritual_a meat_n and_o drink_n in_o sacrament_n abrogate_a be_v christ_n himself_o abrogate_a i_o answer_v no_o but_o withal_o say_v these_o be_v idle_a question_n as_o not_o cross_v my_o speech_n unless_o he_o can_v prove_v circumcision_n of_o the_o heart_n spiritual_a meat_n and_o drink_n and_o christ_n himself_o to_o be_v sacrament_n sect._n 2._o master_n blake_n will_v acquit_v this_o speech_n god_n covenant_n of_o grace_n be_v common_a to_o elect_v and_o reprobate_n from_o symbolise_v with_o arminian_n by_o produce_v the_o speech_n of_o pareus_n and_o mr_n ball_n who_o only_o say_v reprobate_n be_v in_o covenant_n with_o god_n external_o or_o god_n external_o contract_v with_o they_o which_o be_v another_o thing_n god_n covenant_n of_o grace_n be_v his_o promise_n of_o grace_n and_o of_o this_o true_o master_n martial_n in_o his_o defence_n page_n 117._o multitude_n be_v baptize_v to_o who_o god_n yet_o never_o give_v save_v grace_n and_o therefore_o never_o promise_v they_o for_o have_v he_o make_v a_o promise_n he_o will_v have_v perform_v it_o master_n blake_n make_v the_o nature_n of_o a_o covenant_n a_o agreement_n between_o two_o party_n and_o say_v a_o promise_n or_o tender_v without_o consent_n be_v no_o covenant_n how_o then_o do_v child_n covenant_n at_o baptism_n or_o enter_v into_o covenant_n who_o yield_v no_o consent_n he_o say_v god_n tender_a of_o himself_o to_o his_o people_n be_v call_v his_o covenant_n gen._n 17._o 7._o 9_o but_o he_o do_v not_o right_o call_v that_o a_o tender_a which_o be_v more_o than_o a_o tender_a to_o wit_v a_o promise_n then_o he_o object_n against_o himself_o that_o if_o god_n covenant_n be_v such_o as_o he_o will_v not_o break_v jerem._n 31._o 32._o and_o he_o have_v promise_v to_o put_v his_o law_n in_o their_o inward_a part_n than_o they_o all_o to_o who_o he_o make_v covenant_n must_v be_v elect_a i_o answer_n say_v he_o if_o we_o take_v the_o word_n exact_o as_o in_o the_o letter_n of_o the_o prophecy_n they_o run_v than_o all_o ministry_n be_v beat_v down_o and_o all_o edification_n cease_v but_o this_o be_v litem_fw-la light_fw-la resolvere_fw-la the_o contraremon_n strante_v when_o they_o urge_v this_o place_n for_o effectual_a grace_n understand_v the_o word_n exact_o but_o how_o will_v master_n blake_n understand_v they_o i_o have_v look_v over_o almost_o two_o leaf_n in_o answer_n to_o this_o in_o master_n blake_n and_o can_v tell_v how_o he_o will_v understand_v they_o nor_o find_v i_o that_o he_o give_v any_o direct_a answer_n to_o the_o objection_n but_o wander_v in_o impertinence_n nor_o know_v i_o how_o he_o can_v answer_v the_o objection_n without_o evervate_v the_o argument_n for_o effectual_a grace_n and_o perseverance_n in_o it_o and_o the_o not_o teach_v one_o another_o there_o speak_v of_o be_v mean_v of_o that_o obscure_a teach_n which_o be_v under_o the_o law_n sect._n 3_o he_o intimate_v that_o i_o have_v misreport_v master_n martial_n but_o master_n martial_n have_v not_o himself_o deny_v the_o sense_n i_o conceive_v of_o his_o conditional_a seal_n by_o god_n to_o infant_n the_o word_n be_v plain_a enough_o in_o his_o sermon_n pag._n 49._o where_o he_o talk_v of_o god_n covenant_n and_o seal_v and_o christ_n suretyship_n more_o like_a corvinus_n or_o the_o arminans_n than_o the_o scripture_n or_o contraremonstrant_n master_n blake_n accuse_v i_o of_o join_v with_o independent_o and_o that_o they_o will_v have_v none_o church_n member_n but_o elect_v and_o i_o no_o church_n but_o that_o which_o be_v invisible_a but_o i_o believe_v he_o wrong_v both_o i_o and_o they_o i_o i_o be_o sure_a for_o i_o always_o teach_v a_o visible_a profession_n sufficient_a for_o chuch-membership_a though_o i_o deny_v that_o every_o visible_a professor_n be_v in_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n and_o when_o they_o will_v have_v real_a saint_n church_n member_n they_o mean_v not_o only_o such_o as_o be_v so_o before_o god_n but_o such_o as_o be_v so_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n though_o i_o think_v they_o be_v more_o rigid_a than_o they_o shall_v be_v in_o their_o tenet_n yet_o i_o think_v master_n blake_n wrong_v they_o in_o this_o imputation_n ch._n 16._o postscript_n i_o tell_v mr_n martial_n that_o his_o speech_n of_o anabaptist_n as_o condemn_a infant_n as_o out_o of_o the_o state_n of_o grace_n condemn_v all_o the_o infant_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n as_o have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n till_o prove_v by_o some_o of_o their_o testimony_n i_o shall_v take_v to_o be_v but_o a_o false_a accusation_n mr_n blake_n tel●me_v master_n martial_n for_o a_o testimony_n needs_o look_v no_o further_o than_o throop_n of_o your_o leaf_n where_o you_o say_v infant-baptisme_n be_v a_o corruption_n of_o the_o ordinance_n of_o baptism_n if_o infant_n be_v not_o only_o hold_v from_o baptism_n but_o their_o baptism_n be_v also_o a_o corruption_n of_o that_o ordinance_n and_o there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n as_o covenant-holinesse_n to_o give_v they_o any_o ti●le_a or_o interest_n than_o they_o be_v out_o of_o covenant_n stranger_n to_o the_o promise_n of_o god_n and_o so_o the_o doom_n eph._n 2._o 12._o lie_n heavy_a upon_o they_o how_o frivolous_a a_o justification_n be_v this_o of_o a_o express_a and_o deep_a accusation_n of_o man_n of_o a_o rash_a and_o bloody_a sentence_n as_o condemn_v all_o the_o infant_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n as_o have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n i_o think_v a_o man_n that_o will_v accuse_v so_o express_o so_o many_o person_n and_o those_o christian_n brethren_n not_o to_o be_v contemn_v of_o so_o deep_a so_o passion-provoking_a a_o charge_n enough_o to_o stir_v up_o magistrate_n and_o parent_n to_o expel_v and_o destroy_v such_o man_n shall_v produce_v better_a evidence_n for_o such_o a_o crimination_n than_o such_o a_o far_o fetch_v consequence_n as_o mr_n blake_n here_o bring_v to_o make_v it_o good_a be_v neither_o my_o name_n nor_o peace_n more_o tender_o regard_v by_o master_n blake_n then_o upon_o such_o light_a inference_n to_o accuse_v i_o so_o deep_o i_o have_v say_v to_o mr_n martial_n that_o if_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n be_v right_o understand_v mr_n martial_n exclude_v infant_n as_o much_o from_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n as_o i_o do_v as_o for_o mr_n blake_n not_o only_a page_n 14_o of_o his_o birth-priviledge_n but_o also_o page_n 23_o of_o his_o answer_n to_o my_o letter_n he_o express_o maintain_v that_o the_o birthright_n he_o maintain_v as_o a_o fruit_n from_o the_o covenant_n of_o freegrace_n to_o all_o in_o the_o faith_n and_o their_o seed_n only_o entitle_v to_o outward_a privilege_n how_o do_v this_o stand_n with_o that_o which_o he_o assert_v chap._n 3._o sect_n 2._o of_o his_o answer_n to_o my_o letter_n page_z 13._o that_o infant_n of_o believer_n have_v salvation_n if_o they_o die_v in_o their_o infancy_n by_o virtue_n of_o the_o covenant_n for_o if_o the_o covenant_n only_o entitle_v to_o outward_a privilege_n how_o do_v it_o entitle_v to_o salvation_n so_o that_o to_o speak_v plain_o mr_n blake_n do_v but_o play_v fast_o and_o loose_a sometime_o assert_v a_o certainty_n of_o salvation_n from_o the_o covenant_n sometime_o only_o a_o right_n to_o outward_a privilege_n and_o yet_o he_o and_o mr_n martial_n stick_v not_o to_o declaim_v