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A62427 The Quakers quibbles in three parts : first set forth in an expostulatory epistle to Will. Pfnn [i.e. Penn] concerning the late meeting held to Barbycan between the Baptists and the Quakers, also the pretended prophet Lod. Muggleton and the Quakers compared : the second part, in reply to a quibbling answer to G. Whiteheads, entituled The Quakers plainness ... : the third part, being a continuation of their quibbles ... / by the same indifferent pen. Thompson, Thomas.; Hedworth, Henry.; Penn, William, 1644-1718. 1675 (1675) Wing T1013; ESTC R41153 141,349 262

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