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A47162	The plea of the innocent against the false judgment of the guilty being a vindication of George Keith and his friends, who are joyned with him in this present testimony, from the false judgment, calumnies, false informations and defamations of Samuell Jenings, John Simcock, Thomas Lloyd, and others joyned with them, being in number twenty eight : directed by way of epistle to faithful friends of truth in Pennsilvania, East and West-Jersey, and else-where, as occasion requireth.	Keith, George, 1639?-1716.; Budd, Thomas, 1648-1699.	1692 (1692)	Wing K189; ESTC R14187	22,743	25

Liberty and Right of the Meeting that they encouraged it and one of them without the least occasion given did threaten to bind an honest Friends to the Peace S. Jenings calling out for a Constable Thus these who by their Place should be good Examples of Justice and good Order are Transgressors of it 6 thly For their proffering to refer the Differences in matter of Doctrine either to the Yearly Meeting here or to the Yearly Meeting at London by their drawing up a Confession and transmitting it to them which they blame G. K. for refusing G. K. saith that he told them he had good cause to refuse referring it to the Yearly Meeting here there being a Faction that prevailed in the last Yearly Meeting to hinder Justice to be done to the truth but he did not refuse to refer the Difference to Friends in England as having any fear that they would condemn his Doctrine but if he had promised any such Referrence or su●mission as was required it would have been called a breach of his Promise if he had preached any of these Doctrines disputed betwixt them and him and if God had moved him to preach them he should either have disobeyed that Motion or seemed to break his Promise and therefore he refused to come under any such tye especially seeing it could not be expected that an Answer could come from England in less than a years space And by a marvelous Providence of God within a few dayes after this dehate Friends Letters came to us confirming G. K's Doctrine in every particular then in Difference betwixt him and them and since that they cry out Who denyes these things when it is well known and can well be proved many did deny them And whereas they further say That they would have given a Confession out of a Book o● G. K's concerning the main Matter in Controversie is but a deceitful Cover like to others that Book giveth them no strength in the matter of Controversie but if they think it doth they should have mentioned it for nothing is more deceitful than bare Generals However let it be well noticed they grant there is a main matter of Controversie in Doctrine betwixt us but they should have told what that main Matter of Controversie is to wit Faith in Christ without us as he dyed rose again being necessary to our Salvation according to Rom. 10. 9. 10. but this they dare not openly do fearing the People as the Pharisees feared the Jews of old in the case of John 7 thly Whereas they say This Meeting having tenderly and orderly dealt with him for his abusive Language and disorderly Behaviour c. 〈◊〉 cannot be a thing more falsly hypocritically and impudently alledged for they did not so much as call him before them at that time so far as he can understand altho' one of them lately told G K. that they sent W. Byles for him but nothing of this was intimated to any of his Family and he being absent from the Town knowing nothing of their further intention against him did not purposely absent himself it was unchristian and short of Heathen Justice to condemn him and his Friends without hearing them they never yet having had any fair hearing to clear themselves for even Nicodemus could say John 7. 51. Doth our Law judge any man before it hear him And did not our Friends at London blame the Baptists for cleari●g Tho. Hicks and condemning W. P. and others without a fair hearing of them nor was that enough that they sent for them for they being then absent was a sufficient excuse and so it was to G. K. if they had sent for him nor was he ever brought upon Tryal in order to any Conviction before these of the Ministry but that Mock-Tryal that they had at Bur●engton last where A. Cook accused him of being guilty in two particulars viz. That four or five years ago he heard him blame Friends of the Ministry at the Yearly Meeting at the Center for misquoting the Scripture To which G. K. answered he did not blame them so far as he can remember but caution them not to mis●●●ote the Scripture as many can witness which was seasonable and necessary seeing too frequently Scriptures are both mis-quoted and mis-interpreted as particularly not long ago in a publick Meeting A. Cook did expound these words Isa 53. 5. By his Stripes we are healed not of Christs Stripes that he suffered without us but of the stripes that he giveth us in our hearts and when T. Fitzwater prayed in a pub Meeting Lord Jesus who a●t still crucified without the Gates of Jerusalem and at another Meeting told T●at ●●en crucified Christ without the Gate when their Minds went from the Light in them and according to this perverse Exposition when the Scripture saith Let iu go forth therefore unto him without the Camp Heb. 13. 13. the sence would be Let us go ●orth from the Light in us which to be sure is very false and absurd Doctrine And further G. K. did expostulate with them against A. C. that he should so many years conceal this and now bring it forth was contrary to Gospel Order The next thing whereof A. C. accused G. K. was That he heard him revile his Brethreno Pennsilvania to Friends of Rhode-Island calling some of them Heathens c. To which G. K. answered that he denyed that he reviled any of them but if he had A. C. had no witness to prove it and the Scripture saith Receive not an Accusation against an Elder but 〈◊〉 two or three Witnesses A. C. said Friend● ye know the Scripture saith the Ear tryeth words as the Mouth tasteth meat if I speak from a true Spirit ye have a diseeruing and then what need of Witnesses To which G. K. replyed This is a great abuse for at this rate one might accuse A. C. of Adultry and if he can get but some men pretending to a Spirit of Discerning say that he speaks true tho' the thing be false he shall be condemned This is an Invention that A. C. hath hit upo● which the Priests that accused Christ had not found out or had they found it out it would not have done for the Law required Witnesses and so doth the Gospel but the prevailing Party in the Meeting was so far from giving check to this most unjust and unchristian way of accusing G. K. without Witnesses that they suffered S. J. to assault him with a new Charge which he could not prove And there fo●e their usage and dealing with G. K. at this said Meeting was most unsai● and unjust in that G. K. was the first Complainer and they had delayed doing Justice to Truth in bringing W. Stockdale to Condemnation for his Blasphemy for about ten Months and now they permitted any Accusation to be made against him without Witnesses which gave him just cause to tell them he declined their Judgment because they had manifested themselves to be his

THE Plea of the Innocent Against The False Judgment OF THE GUILTY Being a Vindication of George Keith and his Friends who are joyned with him in this present Testimony from the False Judgment Calumnies False Informations and Defamations of Samuell Jenings John Simcock Thomas Lloyd and others joyned with them being in Number Twenty Eight Directed by way of Epistle to faithful Friends of Truth in Pennsilvania East and West-Jarsey and else-where as Occasion requireth John 7. 50 51. Nicodemus said Doth our Law judge any Man before it hear him Acts 25. 16 17. It is not the manner of the Romans said Festus to deliver any man to dye before that he which is accused have the Accusers face to face and to have License to answer for himself concerning the Crime laid against him Psal 58. 1 2. Do ye indeed speak Righteousness O Congregation Do ye judge Vprightly O ye Sons of Men yea in Heart you work Wickednes you weigh the Violence of your Hands in the Earth The Plea of the Innocent c. Directed by way of Epistle to faithful Friends of Truth in Pennsilvania East and VVest-Jarsey c. Dear Friends Brethren every where to whom this may come WE dearly Salute you in the Love of God The occasion of this present Writing is in Vindication of the Truth and Us the detamed Witnesses of it and particularly of George Keith from the false Judgment Calumnies false Informations and Defamations of S. Jennings John Simcock and Thomas Lloyd Pretended ●reachers and others joyned with them being in Number twenty eight in their late Epistle sent to the Monethly and Quarterly Meetings in Pennsilvania East and West Jarsey First of all whereas they pretend to give an Account to these Meetings of the Tedious Exercise and Vexatious Perplexity they have met with in their late Friend George Keith for several Months past In this they have dealt most unfairly and uniustly with him in that they have given no account of the Occasion of that called by them the Tedious Exercise Vexatious Perplexity c. which because they have not given we see fit to do the Truth and all Friends of it to whose hands this may come that Justice as to give you a true Information of the Cause and Occasion of the late Difference that hath happened betwixt divers of them that hath signed their Epistle and these the chiefest among them and G. K. which was this vizx About fifteen Moneths ago William Stockdale an Antient Preacher having accused G. K. of pre●ching Two Christs because he preached Faith in Christ within and Faith in Christ withou● the which G. K. hearing after he had private●y dealt with him laid his Compl●in first before about twelve of the friends of the Ministr● met at the House of R●bert Ewer who having done nothing in the said Meeting to ●●ing W. Stockdale to due Conviction or Condemnat●● for his said Error but rath●r for the most part d●d excuse and defend him as can well be proved by divers Credible Witnesse then present only two of the said Friends of the Ministry then present viz. John H●rt and John D●lavall dissented from the rest then G. K. did again lay his C●mp●●int before Friends of the Ministry at the last Yearly Meeting at Philadelphia in the first week of 7 Mon. 1691. and soberly desired to have their sence and judgment Whether he was guilty of preaching Two Christs or W●ether W. S. was not guilty of Blasphemy for saying Christ within and Christ without are Two Christs and no less than six several Meetings were had about this matter in that time of the Yearly Meeting and the first Meeting continued about ten hours viz. from about nine in the fore noon to the time that Candles were lighted in the evening And it must needs be granted That it was a time of tedious Exercise vexatious Perplexity in all the six Meetings but who was to be blamed for it deserveth your serious Examination Is it not matter of Astonishment that such an easie Question being proposed to so many men called Ministers of Christ all highly pretending to the Spirits immediate teachings and leading and to be in a degree of Christianity above all other Professions in Christendom there being assembled of these ca●●ed Ministers out of these three Provinces about forty or fifty if ●ot more six Meetings could not determine it viz. W●et●er to p●each Faith in Christ within us and Faith in Christ without us was to preach Two Christs or One Whereas G. K. had many Witnesses to clear him that he alwayes said when he tre●ted on that subject that Christ within us and Christ without us was but one Christ the ●ea●ure of the Gift of Christ within us and the Fullness without us in the Man Christ Jesus being one Lord Jesus Christ a sincer● Christian though in the lowest degree and but a Babe in Christ could have easily determined and resolved this Question and given ju●gm●nt against W. S. being guilty of Blasphemy against the Son of M●n though not against the holy Ghost for his blasphemous Assertion That to preach Faith in Christ within and Faith in Christ without was to preach Two Christs for according to him Christ without is a false Christ he being a great Owner in Pretence and words of Christ within and yet which will be matter of Admi●ration to all Impartial Persons that hear it who have the least true Knowledge in the Mystery of Christ t●i great and solemn Assembly of so many high Pretenders to be Ministers of Christ were at a great stand and demur● to determine and in the conclusion of the sixth Meeting gave but a very slender and partial determination and judgment concerning it which yet such as it was was not intimated by any Order of the Meeting as themselves have acknowledged And indeed such was the Partiality as well as the Ignorance and gross Unbelief that openly and manifestly appeared in these Meeting whereof sufficient Proof can be given and that of divers owned and esteemed great Preachers among us that is scarcely credible a hint whereof we think necessary to give for your true Information In one of these six Meetings T. Fitzwater in Prayer said O God that dyed in us and ●aid down thy Life in us and took it up again c. After he had ended his Prayer G. Keith G. Hatcheson and J. Hampton but f●w or none others greatly blamed T. F. for his ●rayer for it appeared to them as Blasphemy and surely it is not only contrary to Scripture but to the express Testimony of Friends That God is Immortal and cannot dye yea G. W. in his book called Judgment fixt expresly saith God cannot be impri●oned or imbond●ged with other words to that effect and so cannot dye Another called Robert Young a great Preacher among them openly said as many can bear witness in one of these Meetings That he did not find Christ without in all the Scripture further positively affirming

da●s before he told G. K. That he believed ere long they would thrust him out from among them for it lay on him to preach among them what that something else was that was necessary to their Salvation besides the Light to wit the Man Christ Jesus without us Let none be offended that we name these mens Names for seeing they have named G. K. in their Paper containing false Judgment and put their Names to it we hope none can justly blame G. K or us that love him to name their Names to things we can prove sufficiently against them besides some of them have complain●d that in our Book Some Causes of Seperation we named not Names and therefore seeing it is desired we have named some it were an easie matter to give such a Character of every one of them that have signed that Paper of false Judgment as may render them unqualified men to give Judgment in such a weighty case not only for the Ignorance of most of them as well as their Prejudice but for the great suspicion that some of them lie under of a scandalous Life as Drunkenness Vnuleanness c. and as for W. Yardly N. Wal●e as we can prove them both very ignorant men so they are not of a very good Fame among their Neighbours and for that distaste some stay from Meetings as we are informed And one George Gray from Barbadoes almost wholly a stranger to these matters of difference taking all on trust from them except what hath lately happened in some late Meetings hath showed himself too foolish and rash as well as ignorant and the like may be said of H. Wi●is of Long-Istand wholly a stranger to our Differences but what he had by report and who lately before divers Witnesses at the house of W. Brad●ord openly declar'd himself an Unbeliever as concerning Christs coming without as to judge the quick and the Dead which is a great Article of the Christian Faith 4 thly As concerning their blaming G. K. for objecting against their Discipline and his preparing a Draught which he presented them G. K. gave no just Cause to be offended at this hundreds here-away of the more sincere sort of Friends do object as well as G. K. against the too great laxness of Disciplire amongst us and that there is but little inspection into the good Lives and Manners of them that profess Truth among us far less into their Faith so that men may almost believe any thing and yet ●e owned if they come to Meetings and use plain Language and plain Habit and be not grosly scandalous And as to his Draught that he prepared and presented to the Yearly Meeting 1690. he was very moderate in it and did not press it on them and he is so for from being ashamed of it that he has now sent it to Friends in Old England to consider of 5 thly Their blaming G. K. for his earnest desiring that they and we might agree to draw up some Principles and Doctrines of Faith in the most necessary things to qualifie our Church Members and distinguish Believers from Vnbelievers has no just ground but is rather worthy of Commendation for hundreds see the necessity of such a thing among us especially here-away And for his saying That he knew none given forth by th● Body of Friends it is true he hath so said and if they know any intire Confession or Declaration of Faith in all necessary things and sufficient to end the present Differences let them produce it we know that particular accounts of Principles and Doctrines have been given forth by divers particular Friends as G. F. G. W. E. B. J. C. and divers others but not by the Body of Friends or any Yearly Meeting so far as we know except the Rhode-Island Sh●●● which they do so much oppose For their offering to give a Confession in Scripture words when they have given us to know they have a sence contrary to Scripture no more can satisfie u● than when Papists Socintans Muggleton●an● c. say they will give us a Confession of their Faith in Scripture words They have greatly blamed G. K. for imposing unscriptural words terms on them and yet when asked what these terms are they never did or can show unless that some of them have said to preach sath in Christ within and without us is unscriptural And what else can it be but gross Vnbelief Paganism to find fault so much with preaching Faith in Christ without us his being in Heaven in the same body that suffered being necessary to our Salvation for tho' the words without us or the same Body be not express Scripture words yet seeing they are according to the true sence of Scripture who can blame G. K. or any other to preach them viz. That Faith in Christ as he dyed for us and rose again is necessary to our Salvation and that Christs Body that was crucified and buried rose again and is gone into Heaven Surely none but Infidels and Ranters but no lincere Christians will deny these things and yet all the Imposition they can alledge on G. K. is That he did preach Faith in the Man Christ without them as well as Faith in Christ the Light 〈◊〉 them that Christ hato the true Body of Man in Heaven and in that Body he will come and appear without us to judge the quick and the dead And the 27. 4. mo at Franksord Mo. Meeting in discourse without door before many Friends T. Lloyd blamed G. K. for imposing unscriptural words ō them G. K. pressed him again and again to show in any one particular but he would not give one instance then G. K. desired him to answer one Question viz. Whether to believe that Christ dyed for our sins and rose again was necessary to our Salvation but T. L. waved it saying I will prove out of thy Books thou wast not o that Faith sometime ago which G. K. denyed well knowing what is in his own Books And it may be noted that T. Lloyd S. Jenings J. Delavall S. Richardson came to the said Meeting to countenance the reading of their Papaer of false Judgment against G. K. and his Friends having put it into the hands of W. Preston to read who offering to read it the far greatest part of the Meeting forbad the reading of it declaring That nothing ought to be read in their Meeting without the general consent of the Meeting but this unruly and disorderly man who hath otherwise showed his Prejudice against G. K. particularly that when G. K. was declaring at another Meeting W. P. interrupted him and called him Lyar when yet it was preved that he was the Lyar himself at that very time did presume to read the Paper against the mind of most of the Friends present and T. L. S. J. S. R. J. D. and A. M. were so far from giving any check to this disorderly proceeding and Imposition upon the true