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A90624 A vindication of The preacher sent, or A vvarrant for publick preaching without ordination. Wherein is further discovered. 1. That some gifted men unordained, are Gospel preachers. 2. That officers sustain not a relation (as officers) to the universal Church; and other weighty questions concerning election and ordination, are opened and cleared. In answer to two books. 1. Vindiciæ ministrij evangelici revindicatæ or the Preacher (pretendly) sent, sent back again. By Dr. Colling of Norwich. 2. Quo warranto, or a moderate enquiry into the warrantableness of the preaching of gifted and unordained persons. By Mr. Pool, at the desire and appointment of the Provincial Assembly of London. With a reply to the exceptions of Mr. Hudson and Dr. Collings against the epistle to the preacher sent. / Published by Frederick Woodal, minister of the Gospel at Woodbridge in Suffolk. Samuel Petto minister of the GospeI [sic] at Sandcraft in Suffolk. Woodall, Frederick, b. 1614.; Petto, Samuel, 1624?-1711. 1659 (1659) Wing P1902; Thomason E1728_2; ESTC R204138 152,808 253

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23._o 24._o to_o tie_v up_o from_o go_v out_o to_o any_o other_o church_n assembly_n as_o from_o go_v out_o to_o unbeliever_n yea_o be_v there_o not_o as_o much_o 1_o cor._n 11_o 17._o 18._o 20._o 33._o to_o tie_v up_o the_o lord_n supper_n to_o the_o assembly_n of_o the_o church_n in_o one_o place_n as_o there_o be_v 1_o cor._n 14._o ver_fw-la 23._o 24._o to_o confine_v pprophecy_n to_o it_o yet_o will_v he_o not_o blame_v we_o if_o we_o shall_v say_v a_o pastor_n may_v administer_v the_o lord_n supper_n to_o believer_n of_o other_o church_n when_o they_o come_v into_o the_o church_n assembly_n but_o must_v not_o go_v out_o to_o they_o the_o assembly_n speak_v of_o administer_a the_o sacrament_n to_o member_n of_o another_o church_n tell_v we_o sure_o he_o i._n e._n a_o elder_a may_v as_o well_o do_v it_o when_o he_o go_v to_o they_o as_o when_o they_o come_v to_o he_o for_o it_o answ_n of_o the_o assem_fw-la pag._n 7._o and_o may_v not_o we_o say_v that_o the_o prophet_n may_v go_v to_o unbeliever_n as_o well_o as_o they_o come_v to_o they_o if_o the_o prophesy_a act._n 19_o 6._o be_v a_o extraordinary_a gift_n or_o confer_v in_o a_o extraordinary_a way_n this_o prove_v not_o either_o that_o all_o prophesy_a or_o that_o mention_a 1_o cor._n 14._o be_v so_o chap._n iu._n contain_v a_o short_a reply_n to_o what_o dr._n collings_n say_v in_o defence_n of_o his_o own_o argument_n our_o argument_n for_o the_o preach_a of_o some_o person_n ordinary_o in_o public_a assembly_n without_o ordination_n be_v now_o clear_v from_o those_o exception_n which_o he_o lay_v against_o they_o hence_o it_o appear_v that_o there_o be_v some_o gospel_n 90._o vind._n revind_n p._n 86._o to_o p._n 90._o precept_n and_o precedent_n which_o allow_v the_o ordinary_a public_a preach_v of_o some_o gift_a person_n without_o ordination_n and_o this_o answer_v his_o first_o argument_n argu._n 1._o none_o of_o the_o scripture_n he_o allege_v do_v prove_v that_o all_o 90._o vind._n revind_n from_o 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to_o be_v a_o genere_fw-la ad_fw-la speciem_fw-la and_o whereas_o the_o apostle_n say_v they_o ought_v to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d teacher_n mr._n pool_n will_v turn_v the_o apostle_n word_n and_o will_v have_v it_o only_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d apt_a or_o fit_a to_o teach_v if_o such_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n may_v be_v allow_v he_o he_o may_v turn_v the_o word_n of_o god_n which_o way_n he_o will_v and_o this_o answer_v what_o he_o say_v p._n 54_o 55._o and_o let_v the_o reader_n judge_v who_o wre_v the_o scripture_n mr._n pool_n or_o we_o three_o for_o gift_a man_n preach_v in_o public_a we_o allege_v heb._n 10._o 25._o object_n if_o this_o place_n prove_v any_o thing_n to_o our_o brethren_n purpose_n it_o will_v prove_v that_o it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o every_o one_o gift_v or_o not_o gift_v to_o preach_v in_o the_o public_a assembly_n etc._n etc._n their_o assemble_v together_o be_v not_o the_o modification_n of_o the_o exhortation_n but_o the_o 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therefore_o water_v consist_v in_o plant_v so_o gal._n 1._o ver_fw-la 1._o and_o gal._n 5._o 6._o neither_o circumcision_n avail_v any_o thing_n nor_o uncircumcision_n but_o faith_n etc._n etc._n uncircumcision_n have_v circumcision_n on_o the_o one_o side_n and_o faith_n on_o the_o other_o side_n but_o will_v any_o say_v that_o uncircumcision_n consist_v in_o circumcision_n no_o more_o do_v teach_v on_o the_o one_o side_n and_o silence_n on_o the_o other_o prove_v usurpation_n of_o authority_n to_o consist_v in_o teach_v mr._n pool_n speak_v here_o with_o much_o confidence_n but_o with_o no_o evidence_n ob._n 3._o the_o man_n here_o be_v not_o to_o be_v understand_v singular_o for_o her_o husband_n but_o indefinite_o for_o any_o man_n for_o the_o apostle_n be_v compare_v sex_n with_o sex_n in_o the_o general_n it_o concern_v such_o woman_n as_o have_v no_o husband_n it_o be_v authority_n in_o a_o church_n affair_n that_o be_v speak_v of_o mr._n pool_n pag._n 109._o answ_n 1._o if_o the_o man_n here_o be_v understand_v indefinite_o any_o man_n then_o the_o gift_n 1_o pet._n 4._o 10._o be_v to_o be_v understand_v indefinite_o any_o gift_n and_o this_o answer_v what_o he_o say_v pag._n 45._o about_o a_o indefinite_a expression_n 2._o if_o as_o he_o say_v the_o apostle_n compare_v sex_n with_o sex_n in_o the_o general_n than_o the_o prohibition_n belong_v only_o to_o woman_n and_o so_o it_o make_v nothing_o against_o the_o preach_n of_o gift_a man_n 3._o the_o whole_a sex_n be_v forbid_v teach_v but_o only_o those_o that_o have_v husband_n may_v be_v forbid_v this_o usurp_a of_o authority_n because_o only_o they_o be_v require_v to_o be_v under_o that_o obedience_n of_o wife_n the_o promise_n of_o salvation_n in_o childbearing_n mention_v but_o
their_o argument_n against_o gift_a man_n preach_v without_o ordination_n he_o rehearse_v our_o argument_n leave_v out_o a_o great_a part_n of_o their_o strength_n and_o put_v in_o his_o own_o exception_n against_o they_o and_o then_o mention_v the_o head_n of_o their_o argument_n without_o our_o exception_n against_o they_o and_o yet_o pretend_v pag._n 116._o not_o to_o take_v at_o advantage_n but_o to_o set_v the_o best_a gloss_n upon_o our_o cause_n in_o which_o sure_o no_o reader_n will_v believe_v he_o chap._n xii_o concern_v election_n as_o belong_v to_o a_o particular_a church_n there_o be_v three_o scripture_n chief_o urge_v to_o prove_v the_o power_n of_o election_n to_o belong_v to_o a_o church_n viz._n act._n 1._o act_n 6._o and_o act._n 14._o many_o of_o our_o answer_n to_o objection_n against_o these_o proof_n we_o have_v no_o reply_n to_o and_o so_o we_o shall_v but_o touch_v upon_o thing_n here_o and_o refer_v the_o reader_n unto_o our_o former_a book_n and_o to_o our_o reply_n to_o dr._n collings_n for_o a_o full_a answer_n 1._o the_o first_o scripture_n be_v act._n 1._o 23._o object_n it_o be_v not_o a_o exhortation_n to_o choose_v nor_o a_o direction_n in_o choose_v here_o be_v not_o a_o word_n of_o the_o piety_n etc._n etc._n of_o the_o person_n but_o only_o a_o declaration_n that_o one_o must_v be_v choose_v etc._n etc._n however_o it_o be_v fit_v the_o people_n shall_v consent_v pag._n 120._o answ_n 1._o here_o he_o plain_o contradict_v the_o provincial_a assembly_n for_o he_o say_v it_o be_v not_o a_o direction_n in_o choose_v they_o say_v jus_fw-la divin_n min._n pag._n 127._o they_o be_v guide_v and_o direct_v in_o their_o choice_n by_o the_o eleven_o apostle_n and_o seek_v to_o prove_v it_o from_o ver_fw-la 21_o 22._o how_o shall_v we_o answer_v both_o 2._o qualification_n be_v set_v down_o ver_fw-la 21._o and_o the_o man_n and_o brethren_n in_o the_o meeting_n be_v speak_v to_o ver_fw-la 16._o it_o be_v clear_a that_o they_o be_v the_o person_n choose_v ver_fw-la 23._o 2._o the_o second_o place_n be_v act._n 6._o object_n 1._o regulation_n by_o dead_a law_n and_o rule_n be_v no_o prejudice_n to_o the_o people_n sole_a power_n in_o election_n but_o a_o regulation_n by_o live_a judge_n do_v destroy_v it_o if_o the_o apostle_n have_v refuse_v any_o of_o those_o choose_v by_o the_o people_n upon_o just_a ground_n will_v they_o have_v be_v deacon_n if_o not_o than_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n consist_v not_o in_o election_n mr._n pool_n pag._n 121._o answ_n 1._o paul_n be_v as_o much_o a_o live_a judge_n when_o he_o do_v write_v ●o_o timothy_n and_o titus_n as_o the_o apostle_n be_v act_v 6._o yet_o he_o give_v rule_n for_o regulation_n 1_o tim._n 3._o ver_fw-la 2._o 3._o tit._n 〈◊〉_d ver_fw-la 6●_n and_o if_o ordination_n be_v aim_v at_o here_o either_o these_o rule_n of_o regulation_n destroy_v the_o power_n of_o timothy_n and_o titus_n in_o ordination_n or_o else_o those_o rule_n act_n 6._o do_v not_o destroy_v the_o people_n power_n of_o election_n and_o we_o may_v turn_v his_o question_n upon_o he_o if_o paul_n have_v upon_o just_a ground_n refuse_v any_o of_o those_o ordain_v by_o timothy_n and_o titus_n will_v they_o have_v be_v officer_n if_o not_o then_o according_a to_o his_o argue_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n consist_v not_o in_o ordination_n 2._o if_o they_o choose_v person_n due_o qualify_v the_o apostle_n can_v not_o refuse_v they_o 3._o if_o the_o apostle_n have_v a_o negative_a voice_n in_o case_n person_n be_v not_o right_o qualify_v yet_o that_o will_v not_o deny_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o election_n to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n for_o their_o affirmitive_a voice_n may_v be_v only_o causa_fw-la sine_fw-la qua_fw-la non_fw-la not_o causa_fw-la formalis_fw-la of_o the_o election_n as_o himself_o tell_v we_o pag._n 13●_n we_o may_v urge_v his_o instance_n there_o against_o what_o he_o say_v here_o and_o they_o will_v be_v as_o strong_a for_o we_o as_o for_o he_o and_o this_o answer_v what_o follow_v if_o the_o apostle_n refuse_v any_o choose_v will_v have_v hinder_v their_o be_v deacon_n as_o p._n 121._o or_o the_o want_n of_o ordination_n will_v have_v make_v election_n null_n as_o he_o say_v pag._n 122._o yet_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n may_v consist_v in_o election_n for_o their_o approbation_n or_o ordination_n may_v be_v only_o causa_fw-la sine_fw-la qua_fw-la non_fw-la they_o may_v not_o be_v essential_a though_o they_o can_v not_o be_v without_o they_o but_o it_o be_v he_o that_o forget_v not_o we_o for_o the_o present_a question_n be_v about_o the_o people_n power_n of_o choose_v not_o about_o election_n as_o essential_a to_o a_o call_v nor_o of_o apostle_n power_n in_o election_n as_o to_o what_o he_o add_v pag._n 123._o about_o argue_v a_o minori_fw-la ad_fw-la majus_fw-la affirmative_a we_o answer_v it_o be_v mr._n pool_n that_o run_v upon_o the_o gross_a mistake_n for_o our_o argument_n be_v fetch_v from_o the_o same_o canon_n that_o there_o be_v be_v as_o any_o one_o may_v plain_o see_v preacher_n sent._n pag._n 224._o and_o whether_o the_o argument_n from_o the_o great_a to_o the_o less_o affirmative_o be_v not_o urge_v in_o the_o scripture_n we_o mention_v pag._n 226._o let_v the_o reader_n judge_n object_n 2._o there_o be_v another_o canon_n and_o that_o be_v this_o quod_fw-la competit_fw-la minori_fw-la competit_fw-la e●iam_fw-la majori_fw-la if_o ordination_n be_v require_v to_o the_o mean_a and_o less_o considerable_a office_n which_o be_v that_o of_o the_o deacon_n much_o more_o be_v it_o require_v to_o that_o which_o be_v the_o great_a and_o weighty_a office_n and_o this_o be_v the_o argument_n use_v by_o the_o assembly_n mr._n pool_n pag._n 123._o answ_n our_o argument_n will_v stand_v upon_o this_o foot_n he_o can_v get_v nothing_o by_o this_o for_o the_o canon_n will_v serve_v we_o what_o he_o say_v of_o ordination_n we_o may_v say_v of_o election_n if_o the_o people_n election_n be_v require_v to_o the_o mean_a and_o less_o considerable_a office_n which_o be_v that_o of_o deacon_n much_o more_o be_v it_o require_v to_o that_o which_o be_v the_o great_a and_o might_a office_n 3._o the_o three_o text_n be_v act._n 14._o ver_fw-la 23._o to_o his_o exception_n we_o answer_v 1._o that_o the_o usual_a signification_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v to_o choose_v by_o suffrage_n and_o without_o special_a reason_n we_o must_v not_o recede_v from_o that_o and_o many_o reason_n we_o give_v against_o its_o denote_v a_o choose_n or_o ordain_v only_o by_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n 2._o the_o word_n be_v apply_v to_o god_n act._n 10._o 44._o it_o must_v needs_o be_v take_v figurative_o and_o as_o there_o it_o do_v not_o denote_v choose_v by_o suffrage_n so_o neither_o can_v it_o be_v take_v for_o imposition_n of_o hand_n for_o god_n have_v no_o hand_n to_o lay_v on_o 3._o the_o word_n be_v but_o once_o more_o use_v that_o we_o know_v of_o in_o scripture_n and_o then_o it_o be_v apply_v to_o the_o church_n so_o that_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n use_v of_o it_o the_o advantage_n be_v on_o our_o part_n 2_o cor._n 8._o 19_o he_o think_v the_o people_n do_v not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o object_n 1._o they_o be_v say_v to_o ordain_v they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o to_o themselves_o mr._n pool_n pag._n 125._o ans_fw-fr he_o confess_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v take_v for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o therefore_o this_o can_v deny_v it_o to_o be_v the_o people_n or_o church_n act._n object_n 2._o the_o same_o person_n be_v say_v to_o ordain_v in_o several_a city_n and_o church_n and_o so_o have_v a_o authority_n over_o several_a church_n pag._n 25._o answ_n 1._o if_o the_o person_n be_v the_o same_o yet_o 1._o they_o do_v not_o as_o the_o manner_n of_o some_o be_v ordain_v in_o one_o church_n ●or_a another_o at_o lystra_n for_o antioch_n but_o in_o every_o church_n respective_o it_o be_v not_o all_o upon_o one_o day_n 2._o they_o be_v say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d who_o go_v before_o other_o and_o be_v chief_a in_o choose_v 2._o it_o be_v not_o evident_a that_o the_o person_n be_v the_o same_o i●_n a_o parliament_n be_v to_o be_v choose_v and_o the_o supreme_a magistrate_n shall_v send_v man_n into_o the_o several_a county_n to_o observe_v the_o people_n election_n it_o may_v be_v say_v as_o it_o be_v here_o and_o when_o they_o have_v choose_v they_o parliament_n man_n by_o suffrage_n in_o every_o county_n etc._n etc._n though_o those_o man_n so_o send_v have_v no_o hand_n in_o the_o election_n so_o if_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n have_v be_v only_a spectator_n and_o eye-witness_n of_o the_o several_a church_n election_n yet_o all_o may_v have_v be_v say_v
that_o be_v much_o more_o they_o be_v moderator_n therein_o object_n 3._o they_o ordain_v who_o go_v away_o commend_v the_o people_n to_o the_o lord_n pag._n 125._o ans_fw-fr paul_n and_o barnabas_n for_o aught_o we_o see_v be_v they_o that_o be_v commend_v and_o the_o church_n the_o person_n commend_v they_o to_o the_o lord_n as_o we_o have_v further_o show_v in_o answer_n to_o dr._n collings_n we_o do_v not_o insist_v so_o much_o upon_o its_o reference_n to_o ver_fw-la 22._o but_o as_o strange_a reference_n be_v find_v in_o scripture_n as_o to_o the_o faint_a conclusion_n which_o he_o mention_v pag._n 126._o we_o firm_o prove_v preacher_n send_v pag._n 231._o 232._o that_o it_o can_v be_v mean_v of_o a_o choose_n or_o ordain_v only_o by_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n and_o that_o be_v enough_o against_o he_o prayer_n use_v in_o manage_v election_n be_v no_o essential_a act_n thereof_o as_o it_o be_v of_o ordination_n and_o so_o the_o tautology_n do_v not_o remain_v on_o our_o part_n as_o he_o suppose_v pag._n 127._o the_o scripture_n neither_o use_v such_o tautology_n nor_o express_v imposition_n of_o hand_n by_o that_o word_n which_o signify_v quite_o another_o thing_n our_o present_a work_n be_v to_o deny_v that_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n only_o do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o what_o we_o say_v if_o grant_v will_v evince_v this_o and_o this_o answer_v what_o be_v say_v pag_n 127._o what_o we_o have_v reply_v to_o dr._n collings_n about_o church_n fitness_n to_o judge_v of_o ministerial_a ability_n will_v answer_v his_o exception_n pag._n 128._o 129._o we_o shall_v add_v a_o few_o word_n in_o the_o next_o chapter_n chap._n xiii_o concern_v election_n as_o essential_a to_o a_o call_v to_o office_n the_o second_o question_n be_v whether_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o call_v to_o office_n lie_v in_o election_n or_o ordination_n we_o prove_v it_o to_o be_v in_o election_n our_o first_o argument_n be_v ground_v upon_o act._n 14._o 23._o and_o be_v vindicate_v already_o that_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n lie_v not_o in_o ordination_n we_o prove_v divers_a way_n argu._n 1._o ordination_n do_v not_o set_v a_o man_n over_o a_o church_n ergo_fw-la object_n 1._o this_o be_v but_o a_o beg_a the_o question_n pag._n 131._o ans_fw-fr there_o be_v not_o a_o word_n of_o set_v over_o a_o church_n by_o ordination_n in_o the_o question_n it_o be_v a_o apt_a medium_n that_o which_o give_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n do_v set_v over_o a_o church_n ordination_n do_v not_o set_v over_o a_o church_n for_o 1._o a_o man_n may_v be_v ordain_v and_o yet_o be_v over_o no_o church_n at_o all_o 2._o if_o it_o do_v then_o there_o must_v be_v a_o iteration_n of_o ordination_n both_o these_o we_o prove_v preacher_n send_v pag._n 246._o 247._o etc._n etc._n ergo_fw-la ordination_n do_v not_o give_v the_o essence_n o●_n the_o call_n obj._n 2._o election_n may_v be_v necessary_a as_o the_o causa_fw-la sine_fw-la q●a_fw-la non_fw-la and_o yet_o ordination_n may_v be_v the_o causa_fw-la formalis_fw-la of_o the_o call_v pag._n 131._o answ_n 1._o that_o which_o make_v a_o superior_a and_o inferior_a be_v the_o causa_fw-la formalis_fw-la of_o office-power_n and_o that_o which_o set_v over_o a_o church_n do_v so_o and_o therefore_o must_v needs_o be_v more_o than_o a_o causa_fw-la sine_fw-la qua_fw-la non_fw-la even_o the_o cause_n formalis_fw-la of_o office-power_n that_o which_o set_v a_o man_n over_o a_o woman_n as_o her_o head_n be_v the_o causa_fw-la formalis_fw-la of_o the_o conjugal_a relation_n that_o which_o set_v over_o servant_n be_v the_o causa_fw-la formalis_fw-la of_o the_o relation_n of_o a_o master_n so_o here_o 2._o his_o instance_n can_v help_v he_o to_o that_o of_o presentation_n we_o say_v 1._o the_o magna_fw-la charta_fw-la of_o christ_n empower_v a_o church_n to_o elect_n without_o submission_n unto_o other_o man_n 2._o in_o such_o a_o case_n the_o essence_n be_v convey_v in_o election_n the_o gentleman_n approbation_n or_o representation_n be_v only_o a_o causa_fw-la sine_fw-la qua_fw-la non_fw-la exercitii_fw-la 3._o the_o instance_n be_v impertinent_a because_o it_o prove_v not_o a_o call_n to_o office_n but_o a_o civil_a call_n as_o to_o that_o of_o arch-bishop_n it_o be_v a_o beg_v the_o question_n that_o his_o call_n do_v lie_v in_o consecration_n the_o king_n do_v write_v to_o certain_a bishop_n to_o confirm_v the_o election_n now_o confirmation_n follow_v creation_n nor_o can_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_v be_v in_o it_o ob._n 3._o his_o ordination_n set_v he_o over_o a_o church_n indefinite_o his_o election_n set_v he_o over_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a church_n pag._n 132._o answ_n 1._o three_o argument_n we_o give_v against_o this_o preacher_n sent._n pag._n 248_o 249._o which_o be_v unanswered_a 2._o we_o will_v know_v which_o set_v over_o give_v the_o call_n to_o exercise_v office-power_n that_o which_o give_v operari_fw-la give_v esse_fw-la man_n can_v challenge_v neither_o audience_n nor_o maintenance_n until_o a_o call_v to_o exercise_v it_o be_v a_o strange_a paradox_n that_o one_o shall_v be_v set_v over_o the_o catholic_a church_n when_o yet_o he_o may_v just_o be_v deny_v a_o liberty_n to_o exercrse_v office-power_n in_o any_o particular_a church_n 3._o his_o instance_n of_o a_o dr._n of_o physic_n be_v impertinent_a physician_n be_v not_o ruler_n be_v not_o over_o any_o by_o a_o choice_n or_o otherwise_o neither_o be_v there_o a_o parity_n between_o academical_a and_o ecclesiastical_a preferment_n arg._n 2._o our_o second_o argument_n be_v from_o ordination_n be_v consequential_a to_o a_o man_n have_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_v to_o office_n act_v 13._o 2_o 3._o ob._n 1._o there_o be_v a_o ordination_n ad_fw-la munus_fw-la to_o a_o office_n and_o another_o ad_fw-la opus_fw-la to_o a_o work_n this_o text_n speak_v of_o ordination_n to_o a_o work_n pag._n 132._o answ_n we_o believe_v that_o the_o apostle_n have_v no_o ordination_n to_o office_n but_o only_o to_o office-work_n and_o therefore_o his_o ordination_n which_o come_v after_o do_v not_o give_v his_o call_n to_o office_n no_o more_o do_v it_o give_v it_o to_o any_o gospel_n officer_n in_o a_o proper_a sense_n ob._n 2._o they_o gassert_v that_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n lie_v in_o election_n and_o to_o urge_v this_o they_o urge_v the_o election_n of_o a_o apostle_n act_v 1._o as_o in_o that_o election_n so_o in_o this_o ordination_n some_o thing_n be_v extraordinary_a and_o peculiar_a to_o the_o apostle_n viz._n that_o the_o essence_n of_o their_o call_n do_v not_o lie_v in_o this_o ordination_n pag_n 133._o answ_n 1._o this_o be_v a_o gross_a mistake_n for_o we_o do_v not_o as_o he_o injurious_o report_v urge_v the_o election_n of_o a_o apostle_n act._n 1._o to_o prove_v that_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n lie_v in_o election_n we_o plain_o deny_v it_o preacher_n sent._n pag._n 267_o 268._o though_o we_o improve_v their_o objection_n from_o 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